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On Sunday morning, Vusumzi Mngxongo grew worried when his 14-year-old daughter did not knock at the door of the family home in the early hours of the morning, as is the norm on weekends.

"Whenever she went out, she would return home in the early hours of the morning.

I would often wake up and open the door for her in those early hours, but I worried when she could not knock at the door at the usual time this morning," he said.Get 14 days free to read all our investigative and in-depth journalism. Thereafter you will be billed R75 per month. You can cancel anytime and if you cancel within 14 days you won't be billed.

 

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At some households, the kids stand up to thier parents and are mostly feared. It's like they have final say about thier lives especially when staying with grandparents.

To show that our government was flooded by looters Gupta boys no increment for the government employees the last previous years

What's wrong with some parents

Ningazenzi bhetele cause sonke siyohlulwa ngabantwana bethu.

This parent is being honest guys. Do yourself a favor and go out at night to malls, games centres and see how many young children out there ... and where's the parents ?We allow our kids too much freedom and negates our responsibility as parents or adults.

The government needs to review children's right, Like educators, parents have paralysis. The law has shackled them. These kids beat teachers and parents, they rule themselves as a parent you must tow the line or else. The government is to blame for all of this even for pharas.

That statement is so wrong at all levels. The very same parents want answers from someone who did mot even know that they were so derelict with their responsibilities. Sies

'As is the norm'....yoh

I don't feel sorry for Vusumzi. He failed to be a parent and send his 14 year old to die.

ihhe musani ukuganga nini 14yrs🙆🏾‍♀️ningqongqozelwa u14yrs ephuma ejoyntini!

'In the early hours of the morning,The norm' At 14 years...😱

irresponsible parents.

Problem right there is parenting, 14 year old really!!!!

Jail that parent!!!

🤔😳Wow so that's when they started getting worried, not the day before at 18h00. Undicamisile

You failed to be a good parent and allowed your daughter to party (be a prostitute at 14,) & work for your family nxaaa what a shame, You are a disgrace how can you allow a kid to party till early mng every weekend?

You are a piss poor parent and your 14 year old shouldn't have been in a tavern and regular return in the morning hours you failed her!

Knock when?... It's a what? 🙌🏽

if you saw this light on from anywhere else either than your home you knew you had booked your self vaccination !!

Irresponsible parent,smh!!!

Hayi kunzima we are failing our kids! We have become so timid and irresponsible as parents. How do you normalize that?

The parenting style is shameful. What a hard way to learn that.

I can read all the reasons and analysis but all I can do is cry at the loss of someone’s child. A person undoubtedly loved by her family but I think of those parents and grandparents who suffer the such unnatural loss of their child. I feel as much as I am able for your loss.

RelebogileM wit her chest said she blamed the gov 4 dis tragedy & absolved da parents . Whn u decide to give birth, u & u alone r responsible for how that child turns out, if u let thm get away wit small stuff whn they r kids they wil learn to get away big tings whn thy r teens

As she has done since she was 9...

Andiqondi nalo news 24, nithi uybhale kakhle lento? Eeeeh

A norm tjoooooo he is not ashamed

The 'norm', 14 year old

A norm.... 'Emzini kabani' (at whose house) a saying that became quite famous with our parents.

Norm mostly yase lokshin if we're being honest. Iziqhamo ze poverty.. A broken society

Initially I thought it was meant to say, she would wake up and go to the parents' door. Oh my, the parents we have become 😥

A norm?

I guess he is one of the parents afraid to be sent to jail by their own kids over giving warms ✋ to their kids in their households.

Condolences Daddy, may the kid soul rest in peace, but how can it be a norm 4 a child to knock in the morning irrespective of outside rooms in the yard if that is case a norm parent wont give a kid an outside room specially at that age, how ever condolences in that regards

Bana ba nou will humble you, condolences to the family.

Parents are tired, this ma2000 are a handful and lack no respect.

What a tragedy😭

Is that a norm 14 year old supposed to be in bed not out in the wee early hours of the mornin

“Norm”😭😭😭

This is a serious issue 🥺 we really need to step up as parents our kids will keep dieing because banama rights haibo.

And people think Black people will ever be financially free, with parents thinking like this... the child might fail in life,,,,, kidding not failll The kid is going to DIE....

In short, another failure by the state and the police. Where were the police when underage children flocked into a tavern? Where were they when the tavern did not close at midnight in line with regulations? Now you're asking where were the parents?

As a norm.... Good, she was going to fail in life any way... Useless parents.... We fail our kids

Unfortunate NORM.

So that was the norm that these teens were allowed to access a tavern. That Tavern needs to be shut down and the owner charged. The parents are equally responsible for this tragedy. The law must now do the necessary.

I can't believe what I'm reading

14 yr old daughter knocking at the door at dawn ? Coming from where I mean this is south africa the most unsafe place on earth for a girl child sir!

Vusimuzi come on my Brother…💔 Sorry for your loss🙏🏾

Vusumuzi Mgxongxo should be arrested ASAP....a 14 year old knocking in the wee hours on weekends as per the norm....he is sick fact 'Yisthephethu'.

A whole 14 year old at a tarven 💔💔💔😥

As a norm? Shit parenting that is

“...as is the norm on weekends”😰😰😰🙈🙈🙈

My daughter is in matric - on Sat night she attended her Matric Ball. Her brother fetched her at 11pm, brought her home to change and then took her to the after-party. He fetched her 2 hours later. They are, as far as I'm aware, responsible young people. They know the rules.

These kids are irresponsible

It's a norm

Parents should blame themselves by ignorance of the responsibility on their childrens but my concern with government is toomach right being given to childrens like bringing condoms at school was also another mistake, so akakhuze yena u government.

Mnxm bayabhora laba

Where she gets the money to drink the whole night? I don't even go to tarven whn i am at home, i don't lik tarvens.

Tragic, by the way, I will never subscribe 😅😅

Abanye bazali

Norm?

'14 y/o', 'early hours of the morning' , 'as is the norm'... Ah mara guys 💔 so some parents really give up on their children? 😔 Unbelievable parenting this

Tjoh...casually '...as is the norm' If I did that at 14, I would have been told to go eat and sleep wherever I came from...that said in the most vulgar way possible 🤞

Time to wake Mandela up... 'Whenever she went out, she would return home in the early hours of the morning. I would often wake up and open the door for her in those early hours, but I worried when she could not knock at the door at the usual time this morning,'

Parents are exclusively the caretakers of their kids, sometimes with a bit of help from the community. Let's own the fact that there is absolutely nothing else entertaining and age appropriate for the kids to do when the sun sets. We all share the blame when our kids are injured.

So this 14yr old is always our in tarven every weekend, Lord have mercy 😭😭

Are we parent shaming or are we learning from their mistakes? Let us refrain from adding salt to open wounds guys, people are mourning and nkebe gae bereke when death has already occurred.

South African parents need to tell us if they love their kids... struu🤞... coz wow it sure doesn't look like it😭😭😭😭😭

How can it be a norm for a 14 year old to be out all night 🤔

“As is the norm” 👀👀👀 yerrrrr hayi kodwa nooVusumzi, a DAUGHTER, ona14 nogal…

The parents of those kids should also be held accountable how do you only worry in the morning about a 14yr old not being home when they should have been worried at 19:00 in the evening

But...

New lows for young people in South Africa

Tjoooo Norm 14🤦🏽‍♂️🙆🏾‍♂️🙆🏾‍♂️

Parents have abandoned their parenthood..

A 14 year old? A norm?

the rat in a hat needs to fall on his sword for this. what is a 14 year old doing at a tavern?

Culture....TIA.

'as is the norm on weekends'😳

What kinda parenting is this? 👀

14, in a tavern?

A 14 year old coming back home at early hours, and the mother calls it normal.

Izingane ezizalwa yini🤦‍♂️ 80s and 90s have failed as parents

A norm?For a 14 year old?👀🤯🤯😭😭😭😭

Horrible parenting, how do you sleep not knowing where your child is? They should be ashamed, the audacity to even say it publicly that your 14 year old DAUGHTER knocks early hours every weekend. Sies munn

As someone who doesn't have children and doesn't have a clue what parenting is like, i will not comment on how I think this is terrible parenting. Let's leave that to parent Twitter.

Weak parents and enabling legislatures are a cancer to society.

Parents should be held equally responsible with the Owner of the tarven of all this mass ...

Norm?.... whose to blame again?

Jabu_Macdonald Can’t this Vusi be charged for neglect or something

It's time these children take responsibility for their decisions. We can blame government, parents or society. Oksalayo these bundles of joy are law unto themselves. They're liars, manipulative, falsify their age, etc. When are we gonna hold them accountable?

What do ANC councillors say about this tragedy?

What the hell, this isn’t normal. Who allows their 14 yr old child to party till Sunday morning.

People in this community allowed this establishment to let under age kids drink into the early hours of the morning. Why did the community allow this? Why have law authorities never closed this place down?

Where did we go wrong?.

Madelin30664814 Y’all were coming back in the AM’s at 14 years 🤷🏾‍♂️😩🥺I was not even allowed TV after 21:00 😂😂😂 n should be asleep at 23:00 😂

This is such a terrible even but equally concerning is that a father was comfortable with his 14 year old daughter not sleeping at home. Worse he opens the door for her in the wee hours of the morning. In fact cut!!!!!

Why is a 14 year old allowed to stay out to early parts of the morning, its time parents get charged criminally

14 year old .........

Parents have reached that point of just giving up and letting them do as they please. 😖😖 I feel so sorry for this father. But I understand. If you don't, then there's something wrong with you or Yall have been Blind...

Xhosa parents are a disgrace!

'It's norm' 😂😂😂 Parents have failed dismally tjo

'as I'd the norm on weekends' 😯💔

Its the 'as is the norm on weekends' for me. Yoh 😭😭

'As is the norm on weekends'

Hebanna mina at 14 I was dropped off and picked everywhere I went, groove was out of the question mos

The way some parents run their families is so disturbing. They mustn't be surprised, some of them are bringing children home after 9 months.

Remember these days children because parents

Lomzali yena ebesebulela nokokungena ngo4 kunoba kuthwe akasekho emhlabeni. Yhoooo if awuyazi into yokungamanyelwa ngumntwana umnqanda awazinto and suthetha cause awuyazi.

I blame the parent for allowing such behavior 💔💔

Kwaze kwanzima😢

Ka 14 ngwana o buya ka masa? Aowa le wena o le motswadi o nyaka mpama

Umsangano lowo, 14 years? A norm

The norm on the weekend what is going on.

Haai yini...This is NOT okay.

Norm for a 14 year old, wow

Man said Norm for a 14 years old

A norm for a 14 year old yhoooo am speechless shem

Mr Cele, Sir I suggest that the Government must grant people the power to arrest all these sadists, as in community arrests, to make our country a menslaughter free... Cruelty must be treated as an A Class crime and be responded to without apologies.

What norm?

These parents must be charged for negligence

Eish...🤦🏽‍♂️wild.

This what happens when we as parents normalize rubbish...

MjakhulaV A norm for a 14 year old girl to be coming at home in the early hours of the morning 🤔

Ooh Jesus I thank God because I am a slaan parent

Lethiwe_Lethyy buka

'As is the norm' If this norm doesn't change in that house they will frequent mortuaries to collect more kids who will not knock like they nomarly do

implying that black parents are failing

WHY IS A 14 YR OLD PARTYING KA DI WEEKEND AND COMING HOME KA MASA A NORM!!!!!!

Dammn

These parents needs to be charged for negligence. You can't have a 14 years old coming home in the early hours of the morning.

14-year old daughter.

I blame the Parents in this case 😑😑😑

When did kids start being the parents..i can't imagine being 14 years & telling my father that I'd be back in the morning, he must wait up for me..

This guy didn't love her as a father...

But she was only 14

Someone please share a screenshot of the rest of the article.

It’s a norm for this child to be out until the early hours of the morning?

AshrafGarda How can it be normal for a 14 year old to come home in the early hours on weekends? This is tragic. Condolences to all who have lost children in this tragedy.

All these parents letting their kids out at night do not deserve them . They have failed to be parents and have failed these kids !! The parents must be held accountable, y’all can fight mee .

Discipline is needed for teenagers

It's shocking. I heard one of the parent says she gave her child permission to go. I mean seriously there's something seriously wrong with our communities. Before we can blame it to our law enforcement and government, parents should account. This is gross negligence from parents

At least single parenting and absent fatherhood isn’t to blame here.

A norm she should blame herself for her death. Bad parents

Dear Parents. Alcohol is bad

Has the parents no control over their kids what are they doing in a bar the patents should be charged

A 'norm' did I hear that right?🙆🏾‍♂️

Senzo96RSA the father says it's a norm for her '14 years old' daughter to be out partying until the weee hours of the morning. 😔💔😭

A norm at 14? This is what happens when the mother, father and kids all drinks in the house. Akekho okhuza omunye finish.

This is shocking, so parents are fine with 14 yr old being out till 4am? How can a 14 yr old be out of the house beyond 5pm? So this supports the notion that parents are to blame here. Ayi chaa most kids don't have serious parents out there, like really, this appalling

Lack of proper parenting comes with serious consequences. EnyobeniTavern

A norm for a 14 year old to come back home in the early hours 🤔😲haibo this father though

What is a 14 year old girl doing in a drinking tavern on a Saturday night in the first place?

Yoh....

Tjo 👀👀👀👀

'A norm' this is appalling!!

This matter is out of hand , how can parent say such a thing, is it ok for your kid to come back early from shebeen, this country is going down if we have such parents

A norm? 14 year old coming back in the wee hours of the morning and it's a norm? Arrest them

Norm? 14 years ? There is something seriously wrong with the heads of the parents in this community…. They need to be charged for some kind of negligence…

Can't imagine my son walking me up to open for him at 5am ,even in his 20s.

'As is the norm on weekends' at 14 I need to read this..slowly this time 🤔🤔

The owner of the tavern is wrong but also the blame must be put to parents either, how come parent give his/her child under than 18 years money to buy booze and hang out at night

Don't judge. Parenting is hard.

All this proves is the the SAPS are non-existent....if there was active policing teens would not be in a tavern....Bheki has once again failed the nation....but will go on to talk ots of rubbish....

'As is the norm on weekends' wow, 14 year old for that matter!

'As it is a norm on weekends ' sorry, for a 14 year old? No 14 year old of mine will do that while living in my house and eating my food🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮

I have a 14 year old, cha anganya straight ngeke at night mina wait for her yoo

Hopeless parents let their young kids out at night,now they are heartbroken,they should take responsibility,the death of their kids are because of their useless parenting skills.

So she new her daughter was not home. Bad parenting

Norm? Eeeeh

It is ur government that is destroying the younger generation,they emphasize that hit a child will result in a child abuse or violating the bill of right so children do as they please and some of they people like bheki Cele dates them

14 year old... In the early hours of the morning.... Really

I guess also normal to expect your first grandchild from your kids that age?

We have a broken society and broken parents, how could u allow a 14 year old to go out drink and meet men in the shebeen? Hay man. And what was he expecting

The norm for a 14year old girl hell no parents u guys killed ur own kids and I'm sure ur expecting government to pay for there funerals no ones again taxpayers money what a nice SA we living in

Every parent whose child died and Tarven should be arrested

A 'Norm' For a 14 year old to knock on the early hours of the morning? This is sad

'norm'

So it has become normal for 14 year Olds to spend a night away from home? Worse etshwaleni! Bazali kahleni

What happened to parenting!!

Not in my house.

'As a norm'? 😲😳 for a 14 year old it's normal to her parents that uya groova 🤧 kanti kweminye imizi kunjani bakithi. 😟

Devastating that a parent can allow his 14 year old to live the life as a 21 year old. EnyobeniTavern

No eff/anc toi toi or burning to claim action against this place

How do you sleep while your young child is not in the house or yard at night?it speaks to negligence of parents.

WTF is wrong with modern parents? I know yall ar E trying to be modern and adopt the white lifestyle, but Eleven white parents don't tolerate this nonsense? A high school kid comes back the next morning?

“norm”

It’s the “norm” that threw me off guard.

Irresponsible parent

He was supposed to go look for her, not to wait for her knock

As is the norm

Nonsense

Nonsense

It was a NORM for a 14 YEAR OLD CHILD to come back home in the wee hours of the morning? No these parents need to be arrested for something, negligence maybe?!

Parenting !!!!!

Talk of a broken home. It's sad for a 14 year old girl to open the door for her drunk dad early morning hours every weekend...now imagine vice versa is the norm in the house. Hardly two years into teenage, dad was letting her party till late.

Yoh the parents must be arrested because noooooo ke negligence fela mo, how can a 14yr old be coming home ka di wee hours of the morning and the dad sees nothing wrong with it? 🤔 Yoh Modimo 💔💔💔 we keep failing our kids 😭😭😭

Not this parent saying her daughter usually comes back in the morning after partying Haibo what kind of parenting is this 😩😩😩

Norm, at 14? Cry our beloved country

Parents like this should be sterilized... FFS!

Tjoo 14 years old? Damn I’m confused

This father can get his pity where the sun dont shine..........I was a naughty 14 year old but it was not a '''norm' for my family.......Latest was 2:00 in the morning and only on New Year when we watching fire works from the stoep................O nale sebete this man

So it's a norm for a 14 year old to go out late on weekends? I had no interest where Tarvens were located when I was 14 & was even scared of those that I knew in my area. Tarvens always been adults hanging spots & a no go area for a 14 year old. What kind of parenting is this?

🤧

'14 year old knocks at the door of the family home as per norm on weekends'😱

14 years old girl and it's normal 🤔yoh ubaba anavuka kwabafileyo yoh 😡

14 year old children out partying till early hours of the morning?! This is so incredibly sad 💔

Why was a 14 year old at a tavern in the first place.

wtaf.

A norm?

a tarven owner won't chase anyone away they want money all of them are like that, but a parent is supposed to be a parent not your child BFF it never works.

Early hours of the morning A 14 year old girl A norm Ngumhlola kaloku lowo, how do y’all parent kids these days 😭

Aowa, norm on weekends, really? A 14 year child, I rest my case klaar

The parents should be arrested as well, there’s no way a parent can sleep peacefully when their 14 year old is roaming the streets with the highest GBV cases, rape cases and murder 💔 They must be held accountable as well

14 year old, early hours of the morning and suddenly worried? Sorry for your loss but that is some seriously shitty parenting. Our society is fucked. No wonder people vote for idiots, no wonder there is GBV and insane crime. I mean there is just so, sooooo much wrong here.

Magae a mangwe ga a na molao.

Go on and tear him apart and forget it was your government that said they shouldn't be punished. The poor man might have tried to control her but the brat would boast, 'You can't touch me. Dare touch me n see how you land in jail.' What was Vusi supposed to do. He's exposing her.

'The norm'😭

14 Years old and Jolling until the next morning...Thats Good Parenting ..🙄🙄

It's a norm of course because this anti-Christ government and the United Nations gave them the right to do whatever they want. Now they are dead the government talks about parent's responsibility mxm

Same government that gave kids rights cannot blame the parents when you discipline your kids you are abusive

We can judge all the way we want but what we need to understand is that children are the product of their environment. All we need is to learn from this experiense. All the communities need have sports and recreational activities that will keep our kids engaged to positive norms

As the norm 💀

Norm for 14 year's old not be at home up to early hours, yho I am that parent who will never allow this nonsense to happen on my own children.

Sad sad sad for everyone involved

14 year olds should be in bed, not knocking early hours of the morning!

Why are you letting your 14 year old daughter go out until all hours of the night/morning? 14 No man take some responsibility for your children.

Parenting is dead, children are in charge. Sorry for your loss.

Did u just say Norm🙌🙌😳😳😳😳

Parents are the problem

We have surely normalize rubbish shem.

It’s normal for a 14 year old girl to come home early morning hours on weekends? 😲😲😲

How do you sleep at night knowing that the 14yr old is not at home? some parents needs to be arrested and be charged with negligence

This new age parenting 💀

Useless parent that one

Is it a norm for a 14 year old to knock on the door in the early hours of the morning bab'uMngxongo? Sorry Ndosi this is bigger than you, parents should take responsibility on this one

My condolences to him and the rest of the family, but why would you put your shitty parenting out on front street like this?

Really? It's a norm for a 14 yr old to come back home in the early hours of the morning? I wud b ashamed to say this as a parent

A norm 4 a 14 year old, thixo

😖😖😖 so they let it be a norm for him to come back early hours kadi weekends...Mara batswadi ba bangwe 🤕😵.

And he can even say it? How can you allow a 14 year old to even go to places like that. Parents look after your children, know there friends, know what they are up to. That is called caring.

Maybe the South Africa Law is not applicable to Taverns ? If I interpreted the South Africa law correctly under aged is not allowed in a place where alcohol is Sold and consume ,Pepper Spray is not to be used in confined places and will constitute to Assault .

This is a tragedy - but it is unacceptable to allow a 14 year old to party till the early hours of the morning😡

Eish...

As a Norm ?

Vusumzi normalized kak

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