"Maseko asked for advice. He had been asked to go and meet the Guptas, and he was worried about the implications. He came to ask me what he should do because the president [Zuma] asked him to see the Guptas. I said to him if the president asks you to meet a person, you can’t not meet that person if there is no"I said 'if you don’t go, the president might charge you for undermining him'. I said 'go'.
"He said they asked him to do something irregular. I said now you have the right to say 'no' because it’s about violating the law, about irregular activity. He said he was given an ultimatum that if [he doesn’t deliver], [he] will not be DG by Wednesday. "Indeed, on Thursday, he called me to say [he is] no longer DG of GCIS. I said we now have enough evidence. This is the time you should now take it on," Chikane said.
"That’s the pain of corruption, it costs clean people dearly. If you did take a stand at that point, like some of us did, we paid dearly."
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