Senior SAA pilot fired for flying with fake licence for 20 years - report

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A senior pilot had to resign from SAA after it was discovered that he had flown commercial airplanes for more than 20 years with a fake licence, says a report.

This was reportedly after an investigation into a"reportable incident" on a flight he piloted.

According to the paper, Chandler was the monitoring pilot on the trip and had the controls at the time of the incident.

 

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That's soo late🙆‍♀️ aibo wow

Why do people take these risks, this requires a lot of boldness.

That’s quite something he managed to pull off Put that man in parliament

caesq lol....he is a qualified pilot already

His name is WilliamChandler...

🤷🏻‍♂️

Let us stop complaining can we do our on way hidden black tradition, which our forefathers did not teach us

Just lyk motor vehicle, many people drive without license

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Advance a conman? How and why?

It's misleading healings. He is a good pilot with commercial pilot licence..they using technicality

iamthebe_m Myekeleni

Nah arrest this oke

Mbele_Roberts Remember Vincent Mdunge. ..precedence set!

So it took a whole 20 years for SAA to finally realize one of their own Pilots has been operating their Airplanes with no proper documentation. Something is fishy here.

He never crashed any planes, so what's the big deal? Let the man continue his work

ntswakisengane Arrest him and give him life sentence for putting pplz lives at risk. Where is he?

Is the headline correct? No where in the story does it say he had a fake licence. Is the story not rather that SAA's processes failed because from the story it appears he did not submit an Airline pilot licence after 5years (hence he wasn't a captain?) Have they checked the rest?

If his license was fake for twenty years and his duties were exceptional, why fire him.

These are South African heroes

Such a small thing compared to SOUTH AFRICAN BILLIONS' WORTH OF CORRUPTION.Really? Then investigate ALL pilots' qualifications. If one slipped through for 20 years....there arw plenty other cases of fraud. Bigger picture? Also...how did it go unnoticed for 20 years!!!?

And that can only happen in south Africa. No whereels in the world

He looks like one of those people “who don cur”. 😌He made his money. Lots of it. SAA is just hopeless.

Reading the comments show that to survive in Mzansi, one should have a good sense of humour!

I think he should be charged, just like Vincent Mdunge

20 years of excellence HandsOffMyPilot only BOSASA and its benefactors must PayBackTheMoney

I also drove a car both auto & manual for 6yrs without licence.Even helped those wit licence going thru various provinces & no accident were recorded.I even got recognitions in various places I've worked in & excelled without necessary qualifications certificate.

He should be credited with a competence certificate

I don't see what the fuss is. The guy has been flying airplanes for over 20 years surely he has the right experience now 🤗. Does Tlali Tlali have this licence or it's like Reg Exams in the financial services industry only applicable to client facing staff

smiggz_ Will they revoke his pension fund and benefits?

At least he has not....... unlike Zuma and them...

Sure someone should have checked his qualifications before. Surely systems should be in place otherwise surely those employed to put systems in place must be held accountable.

Eh o jele yong. Mxa le mo kubile late bafana

What a disgrace. Firstly for SAA to employ and continue to employ for 20 years a con pilot. Secondly as an avid aviator myself, I cannot believe the arrogance of actually putting so many lives at risk. We're there no colleagues who were suspicious? This man should be prosecuted.

Yet those who have been doing dodgy deals at management level, losing billions of SAA Rands, still roam free.

LeoDiCaprio “catch me if you can”

Context of racism/white supremacy.

Another proof that sometimes education is just organized crime. 🤔

He must return all his salary otherwise go to jail. 2. All pilots should be audited especially whites. 3. His boss should be fired too, for failing to verify authenticity of qualifications 4. Verify qualifications for all white employees to all departments Abafundile qha

Yt privilege

Think the responsibility is on both the employer and employee to ensure a valid license is being used. Both sides are in the wrong. Yes agreed, if something were to have happened, SAA would have been done for.

His licence was BOSASA certified

Well ... if he did not kill anyone then give it to him

I think he deserves the license. Just let him continue ka his job

How on earth did this happen, the guy must be good though, as for SAA...well angazi.

Makes no difference

Such a hoo haa he has a commercial Pilot's licence and flight engineer same as having a valid drivers with no Pdp nothing more than a paper trail..... Sensationalism nothing more!!!

Many of them in the industries they have this fake license and degrees I’m not surprise at all at the same time in our country anything is possible for a white a person

How was this guy even hired without the proper documents? SAA put thousands of lives in danger. This guy should be criminally prosecuted

But let's face it guys 2 decades is not a joke.something is really fishy here

A legend indeed.

OMG!!!

Pandorabubbles Wait wait, you mean I can get get behind the wheel without a license at SAA. SAA are you accepting applications? I have loads of experience watching extensive flight operations on YouTube.

He still did the work so why must he pay back the money? I’m not condoning the fact that his license was fake.... but he did the hours... he worked... he earned! Shame on flysaa actually!

What's the point of that now. He's been coining it n is OK with a 'forced retirement' Unlike us who've never even gotten a chance to fake having a masters or doctorate 😒😒😒

white privilege

🙊

That can only happen in Mzantsi!

Why the fuss no one died maan......

let him get arrested.

I'm not sure if the colour of his skin has got something to do with all this the reason being how many ppl who drives without licenses out there does it have something to do with their skin and those who are in positions they don't qualify for them. Hlaudi, Zuma, P Jordan etc

NoMoreBeamer 20 years oh my god he is a legend

Kusho ukuth akayedwa, baningi

He performed his job well for the past 20 years so he deserved his salary but now remove him from the post because he doesn't have licence.

What does ANC had to do with this? It's disgusting how people are obsessed about ANC these days.

How many of have original car drivers lisence? 🤔

South Africa is a movie!

Maybe this guy was a pilot in a plane that I was in but then obviously he was a brilliant pilot irrespective of licence it shows not all educated people have brains

Basamgxothelani? The guy has 20 years experience qha they must take him to do his license official

lol practice made perfect? Learnt on the job? Just wow

Fake cops,fake pastors,fake wealth,fake teachers,fake doctors,fake banks,fake pilots,...what next?

I salute this work, let em give him a chance to fix his papers

Risking the lives of people 😡

Ah👀this guy should be arrested

I'm not worried, its just like driving with a valid licence but no PDP. PDP is just designed to make money for the government.

All is well that ends well irrespective

This post is misleading. This guy has a Commercial Pilot Licence. He just doesn’t have the ATPL that he had to attain within the 5 years of being employed.

I dont see white people condemning this. So biased

For 20 years 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I bet money he won't get jail time

The amazing thing is he did the job for so long without a qualification. It then brings the question of do we really need qualifications for practical work. It's like builders who build houses without any schooling yet those houses are as good as any.

The lying fraud must pay back the money he received for flying with fake papers

africaupdates If he was flying for 20 years with a fake license, he obviously knew how to fly. What was preventing him from just taking the test? Parallel parking?

He must pay back all the money , they must sell all his assets and then he should be jailed for attempted murder.

africaupdates Y'all not arresting him?' Y'all firing him because he's already into pension that's why only after 20yrs y'all decide to find this out about him. We see you. Smart move.

Lol too late, it's unnecessary

Well he must of known something but still he should be fired. They cannot get the money back from him because legally he did provide a service, albeit under false pretenses, his labour did ensure the plane flew from A to B.

It took them 20 years to find out his licence is fake? What a joke.

Black people are really stupid. If he was black, white People would already be calling for his arrest. The likes of OUTA, Afriforum and Solidarity would already be preparing for private prosecution. But black people are here saying he must be given a Bells.

20 years? Wow why did it take so long to catch him?

He should be arrested immediately.

And you wonder why SAA is trouble.

White privileges

Okay Comair, we have a Top Quality Pilot 👩‍✈️ that only needs to get a license...you won’t regret employing him...🙏..see attached.

Air metro cops not doing their job now

Learnt it from the ANC. They have been in charge of the country without anything for longer.

DA is not going to open a case of fraud against this fake pilot just because he is product of apartheid

How did ths guy pulled it thru,,True sign that God loves us all

Dudu myeni fu***d up SAA for many years & they did nothing.This man is a commercial pilot & knows how to fly & gets fired for 1 flight.

Let him pay back the money for all this years he worked

How did he get caught after 20 years?

Rather let the men continue with his Job clearly for 20 years SAA was sleeping on duty

White privilege

This guy needs recognition of prior learning and be certified. No assessment required as he never crushed a plane!

Isn't late to fire the old man?

Rozz_lynne do you know him? 🤔🙆🏽‍♂️

20 Years experience should be enough qualification.

Wow!

It's always the case those in aviation would know

Let him manage Eskom,maybe it won't load shed. He worked with diligence to avoid being bust.

Legend

This is normal practice for them. In most companies qualified black people are reporting to people who only went as far as grade 11. Sometimes I wonder if they even certify copies orrr ninyela thina nje

Well done!!!!

And they say we need qualifications in life. Look at Eskom_SA and all its qualifications. This guy had zero accidents for 20 years.

Exactly why I'll never fly ka flySAA_US rather burn my pocket and use BA local... Ja'll gamble with our lives. 20 whole years and no one picked it up? Request renewed licensing every 5 years?

Fired?

Gobsmacked - is it perhaps fake news ?

Fake it till you make it. He made it shows you that you don’t need all that paper work if you a competent person. It’s not his fault Everyone takes a chance

He must be arrested.

Hmmmmm, for soooo loooooooooong

He must have been also a mule for drug dealers aswell...

He's not the only one with a fake licence to fly...keep digging.

Why is he nor named like Phahlane?

I wonder gore who did he piss off 🤔. Someone snitched on him🤣

I would trust this gent to fly me before any of the new 30%'er recruits. He can pay back the money once the corrupt cANCer MP's and NEC's do.

Why fired only. He xud b arrested too

Funny, you still referred to the fraud as a 'Senior Pilot' after knowing that he has no license to fly and therefore, not a pilot.

4 such a long time , how did that happen😱😱

My transportation lecturer today said if he were SAA he'd hire the guy to train pilot graduates because skills matter much more than a certificate

I wouldn't mind fired at that age. Early retirement .

How about all the fake degree's and qualifications in the ANCancer....yet we trust them to run our country intotheground trustissues doublestandards

Skhokho.. Zero incidents

Tht pilot earned his money and SAA its money too. But should SAA dare sue him for his earnings, we sue SAA for endangering our lives through its negligent hiring of pilots. Our civic claims esp for passengers who were flown by the pilot will fly into the millions.

a man has no name ?

Shame. Well atleast he worked.

That or someone cocked up his renewal forms.

What about the money he stole the whole 20 years

He must get arrested for fraud and for stealing opportunities for pilots.But he deserve Bells if he never crushed 🥂

He should be arrested for attempted mass murder.......

A few ministers have fake drivers license

This is tantamount to attempted murder. This man must go to jail for a very long time.

Skelm wit mense

There is no need for him to be fired, i mean the guy was killing it for 20 years let him keep his job.

so he is not gonna be charged ND prosecuted cos he is white....nxaa

Why, Sir ?

Wow

Holy 💩

Haai nee! How 20 yearssssss!

Hlaudi was harassed for not having matric now is a white person without qualifications should be retained South Africa is sick country

But Colonel Vincent Mdunge is in jail today for committing similar Crime

Treat him the way you treated Hlaudi 🤸🏾‍♀️

Zuma was President and didn't even make it to Std 2.... So what's the problem?

He should get recognition for his skills thru Prior Learning and allow him to obtain his licence without losing his job..

How did he even get the Job? White Privilege as usual!!

And the experience 🤷🏿‍♂️

He should have never been employed in the first place. For such a job I believe one's qualifications must be checked thoroughly and some institutions must confirm authenticity of such qualifications.

This is the same story as Hlaudi's...The guy even got to be a senior pilot🙆🏽‍♂️😂😂

Its just a paper. Was he not flying the passengers and even made senior pilot?

Good on him, stupid SAA Management.

he's got the skill ..let him fly

😂😂😂😂😂😂

fired after flying for 40 years without causing any accident. They should have just let him continue and give him a proper license

White privilege

At least he never caused any ....up. Some people can't even fly a wheelbarrow.

ali_naka

Motsoneng Matric SABC..... Was all over the news.

If i was rich i was going to hire him as my personal pilot.

Meaning the traffic officers in the air didn't do their job or were they also accepting cold drink (bribes)

The fraudsters name is william chandler just in case you couldn't mention it for the same reason all other of his brethren aren't named when they commit crimes. Thank you

Ntoni ntoni privilege!

Lol but he's flown planes without any hiccups for all those years. Why fire him😂

When We Apply For Employment They Want Experience 🙄🙄🙄 This Guy Has It, They Must Hire Him He Proved Himself He's Good With What He Does

They fired based on Gross Dishonesty, and such misconduct does deserve severe sanction. It is not that the 20 years experience does not count, but it is to deceive the employer about qualification.

good for him which means he was a good pilot how many ppl that r driving with fake license or fake doctors child pls

Just shows how bad Saa process is, for 20 yrs, really reflects why the company is in such bad shape when they couldn't even check a pilot license.

That’s fraud. He must even be charged

Every white person o course will find a way to justify this. Hypocrites

just fired?....white a shock 😟

Don't fire him he already has experience SAA should just advance him to take a course and get his license.

SAA must not pay him provident fund or any money even UIF , he must be charged for putting people's lives in danger

Why fire him if he has done the job exceptionally well? Rather use his skills in inspiring and motivating young pilots within the company.

It looks like news24 is putting a defense for this conman. 😱😱😱

So experience without qualification doesnt count?

we need metro police in the air

I once saw an SAA plane reversing mid air.

Why is he not arrested?

And the other color needs to always prove and justify even with the right qualifications over and over, this here fella never even got suspected for 20years and probably got a higher salary then a qualified person who had the wrong color 🤨they sue him

White privilege

This man can fly Alph's, Bushiri Jets

How's that even possible? 20 years no one even knew he was using fraudent qualifications? 😀😀

I want my money back for the risk I went through by boarding his plane

WoW! 20 years...

His only crime, really, was not doing the admin involved in getting his license. I can relate to the ball-ache that is admin at any licensing department...he was probably standing in a long queue, waiting and waiting until eventually, 'fok, ek sal dit sommer self doen ..'

Now this are news

Has anyone ever been injured in those 20 yrs

This is insane, I have never and will never fly with SAA or any of its subsidiaries. This is totally unacceptable, how do you not verify this crucial piece of information

Wrong is wrong, but whos the one that employed him in th first place. Checks?

What!!!! How did this happen?

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