It’s almost a trope: A new interpretation, a reboot, a sequel or a prequel is planned and white fanboys spew outrage about a character who, in their minds, doesn’t look enough like white people. The most recent outrage overhas people asking what is at once the funniest question and the saddest one: Do Black elves exist?
A new interpretation, a reboot, a sequel or a prequel is planned and white fanboys spew outrage about a character who doesn’t look enough like white people. Joining angry"The Lord of the Rings" fans are viewers equally upset that the"Game of Thrones prequel," “The House of Dragon,” which, with its casting of Steve Toussaint as Lord Corlys Velaryon has disrupted their ideas of who ought to portray brave knights, elves, kings, queens and heroes. Black, brown and LGTBQ people appearing in heroic roles has ruined these imaginary fantasy worlds of magic and make-believe.
They’re flaming the shows online, whining about the creators’ original visions, and in so doing, reminding us that some of our fellow white Americans don’t think people who don’t look like them, or love who they love, belong — even in a pretend society. These are likely the same people who complained whenNever mind that Superman was never white. He’s a space alien from Krypton, people!
Whether it’s Stars Wars franchise actors Daisy Ridley and Asian American Kelly Marie Tran being attacked for not being Mark Hamill or Harrison Ford, or naysayers telling a Puerto Rican actor, “” in the"Lord of the Rings," such trolls typically try to hide their hatred by arguing that such casting dishonors the source material. But rarely have these casual racists actually read the source material.
Your TV show sucks? Blame it on the racism of the viewers xD
What about black nonbinary aliens?
'new interpretation, a reboot, a sequel or a prequel is planned'. See, there's the problem. Creative bankruptcy can't create anything of value and substance, so it resorts to 'interpreting' and 'rebooting'. Btw, is owned by comcast, who, owns studios like UniversalPics .
Can you STOP. Stop the racial nonsense. It was a bad show. Not because of race. Rather because of writing,execution etc.
No.
I would focus on making the show good.
I can also imagine better plots and writing.
MalcolmNance This is what happens when one group of people gets to cosplay everyone from Jesus Christ to Son Gokuu—the latter is an Asian looking alien. Sadly, Funimation feel it necessary to cast Asian actors to play the countless Asian characters. Asian VAs aren’t even in short supply.
If you can imagine dragons and hobbits, you should be able to imagine space ships and nuclear weapons. You won't catch me whining about how Children of Blood and Bone series doesn't have white people in it because it's set in an analogue of pre-colonial sub-Saharan Africa.
MalcolmNance Jeopardy question: What is the definition of Fantasy?
MalcolmNance Tolkien's Middle-Earth was inspired by Nordic mythology stemming from times long before Europeans met people of other continents. Black elves just don't make sense in that setting. I look forward to ppl of other ethnicities to explore and present to the world their own stories.
Its ok until it's forced or changed for shocking value which is sadly a new norm.
MalcolmNance With a few exceptions perhaps...
No, Rings of Power is just bad. Even without the focus on feminism and diversity. The authors were unable to capture the spirit of JRR Tolkien's work. They had an agenda & failed to suceed. Now they will cry racism because sure.
Oh I see, cultural appropriation for me but not for thee…
MalcolmNance I wonder if these actors ever get tired of being noticed for every other aspect BUT the acting. Because thats how it seems to be going. Black? ☑️ LGBT ☑️ Good actor, do they have performance merit, are they a decent person?… Uhm who cares we got our target audience.
MalcolmNance I love how Asians are completely excluded or how non binary people are somehow a priority over them.
Why are you recycling this race bait article you published months ago?
Omg the insanity continues with you clowns. 🤡
Omg....they're back on this topic....just recycling rage now huh? Opression Olympics...
Imcan imagine a chinese santa without any problem at all…do i want to watch a show with a chinese santa? Nope
Imagine yes…think thise forced virtue signaling and pc changes for no other purpose than to brag virtue signaling NO. This is why rings of power is a massive garbage of a flop. Go forced woke and go broke, disney demonstrated that already
Stupid comparison but what can you expect from MSNBCrap
Nailed it. Get over yourself.
Its possible.. but in a world of fog, caves, and forests it seems to favor lighter skinned ppl
This is so old. But LOTR sucked regardless of what color the elves were.
White, black, and brown? 100%. Latino? That's a group named after a region that doesnt exist in middle earth.
Are you mad that your contrived propaganda infected shows failed? You learned nothing and still blame the fans. Laughable.
Imagine a Biological woman playing role of a 'trans woman', or is that too much fantasy for one day?
I'm so over victims. Everyone is a victim.
It's not that the LotR series did poorly because of the actors skin pigmentation. It's because of shit writing, shit directing and shit acting. But no, MSNBC has a history, everything is racist.
Nope.
Not in the books. If you want to create a woke social justice fantasy world, create a new story. Are the writers so bad that they have to continue to just make sequels to 50 year old movies that nobody wants?
There’s no need to imagine it. We’re seeing it everyday in real time.
The Democrats and the liberal media promoting mental illness as normal is dysfunctional policy.
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Yeah maybe create new good characters instead of blackwashing old ones. It’s lazy. Plus these groups are largely over represented statistically so just save it.
Don't drag Latinos into your mess. Latinos love GOD and Family .... especially children. No lumping Latinos in with the the democrat party of pedophiles, groomers and child mutilation.
The people who blow up beer cans aren't exactly getting jobs as show runners
That's fine, just not when they try and change history.
I should be able to imagine my imaginary world how ever I like.
People of different colors sure. But where do Latinos in Middle-Earth come from? Why would a fantasy story need 'nonbinary characters'. That exists in someone's head. Why spend the time informing the audience that a character is one thing, but believes they're something else.
I just 💗 great acting!! Why worry about who is cast in the part when they’re oft times pretty perfect for the role!
GFYS.
Stop 👏blackwashing👏 white 👏culture Lol am I doing this right?
If it’s my world, I think I can imagine whatever comes to mind. When you put a requirement to it, it’s no longer my imagination isn’t it? It’s more of a brand guide for fantasy. How about you stop focusing on the fact that they aren’t diverse and ask why?
MSNBC, the same as FOX news, puts out ridiculous stuff lol, this might be the most embarrassing tweet I have seen this week from a news organization. 😂😂😂Comparing Aliens and dragons to real Black, Latino and female characters is really degrading. Stay out of opinion stuff
No thx
It doesn’t matter if the stories are garbage and unimaginative. Recycled plots just with different characters gets old.
Game of thrones has literally all of these things why are you making a non issue an issue?
No because they were not in the books
W T F does non binary mean. SOMEONE explain this dysphoria to us.
Hahahhaha. Whatever losers
msnbc telling me what I should like… 😳😬🤡
We got no problem with the characters of diversity. What we have an issue with is changing characters to find a new agenda. Race swapping gender swapping. There are plenty of cultural stories to use to make new characters from that demographic. Cultural appropriation is bad.
Dragons and hobbits does not exist. Is that how you view black, latino, female and non-binary? They dont exist to you so you have to imagine them? Your bigotry is outstanding
Commercials are more than diverse today, when most are black today when they make up 1 out of 8 in the country.
Pure reimagined garbage nobody likes. Come original or don't come at all. Leave the classics alone for Gods sake. Also ruined Star Trek & the Marvel series.
Lol what
it's based on european folk lore. maybe leftists should make fantasy stories set in an african-like setting. also, you don't just change characters in established stories purely for your token woke character. funny how they are talentless hacks that need to steal White stories
Taking canon and perverting it is immoral.
So, anybody but white males because they are racist. But you are not racist. Got it.
I grew up with quite a few of the Mavel and DC superheroes. Then onto Star Wars where there is non white representation. Star Trek was maybe the first to put a black woman in a command role. I would not like a black Thor just as I would not like a white Uhura.
Well yeah I guess if the people in DC can play imaginary dress up....So can the movies eh.....
Imagine me dragging Deez 🥜 all across that man face
The only way these terrible woke writers can get an audience is by appropriating someone else's material but it always fails in the end.
The plaintiff wail of the inept socialist.
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We should respect more the mind of the writers and no change all their characters for a political purpose. You should create some new literature with these characters without increase the hatred of the fans. Indeed I would hate see a white guy play the great 'Spawn' in a movie.
No one is trying to force Hobbits to be real, can't say for non binary...
Because it stands out so obviously as pandering.
Cant we just remake all movies and TV shows without white people and be done with this asinine conversation
Nah
Who said I couldn't imagine them? JFC all you ppl do is miss the point.
did someone say imagine dragons?
The fans disagree and this is America it's ok to not like everything. The very fabric of free speech is the right to disagree
It's just trash , that's why nobody watches it
I cant wait for boys in the hood to be cast with whites and trans guys as women. Maybe just all gays! Yeah! Equality!!!! Lol
The book author did not imagine Black, Latino and nonbinary (mentally ill) characters.
That's all you do, imagine stuff! 😂
Brainwashing at it's finest...
everything woke goes to shi
Another racist tweet by msnbc.
Nonbinary? No ty keep that shit for yourself
Recycled propaganda. ICU MSNBC
Are you comparing women, blacks and Latinos to space aliens, deformed hobbits and mythical dragons? That's low down AF.
MSNBC most sick network bullshit company
Or we can imagine an author who includes all of these woke things into a fantastical series that becomes immensely popular throughout the world which inspires directors to make movies and more series on these Fake Woke Characters that the whole world loves… a fantasy that is.
Not as long as it contradicts the original material thats already been created such as LOTR. Create some new literature with these characters and noone would protest, its that easy.
The script was hard to follow and the character development was lacking but sure…everything is about racism with you guys.
Race/gender baiting… super classy 🙄 all this is manipulative clickbait… DO 👏REAL 👏JOURNALISM👏
Male. Female. Anything else is made up Fantasy land based on a perverse sexual religion. Another thing is that there is no original thought in modern films. Hollywood takes past movies and simply replaces them with “Minorities” and call anyone racist that notices.
Imaginary, is that what you're getting at? That's a very poor comparison.
Why do people trip on this stuff? Especially SFF fans. I guess I figured they were generally more open minded. I was wrong.
You see, the problem is not a problem of the presence of these characters. The problem is the distortion of existing fictions in which this was not the case in order to satisfy a political agenda. I have no problem with any of those groups, but stop forcing them into everything
When the adrenaline hits my veins, I’m ready to go. Did somebody seriously just say Imagine Dragons?
So than a White and an Asian can be leading characters in a Roots redo? Better cast some white motherfuckers for Wakanda next time.
Even imagine dragons come in male or female versions 🤷🏽♂️
Hey MSNBC what the actual FUCK is wrong with you? Oh right you're all jews whipping around mindless golem slaves, I forgot. Keep pushing this shit. Go ahead. Keep fucking around. I'm a moderate hipster douche and even I'm like 'wow maybe the hardcore right was correct.'
Keyword here - IMAGINE. Hobbits, dragons and space aliens don’t attend school with my 3rd grader. They’re…imaginary. Not real. Confusing imaginary beings with real people is called…delusional. Psychotherapy is indicated.
Dragons are part of the make-up and logic of the setting. Non binaries and black elves aren’t it’s so simple
Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Black Come on we need more black coverage from you. Sorry, I mean Black.
Good to know you haven't watched any movies made in the last 30+ years... Way to show off your racism, the KKK would be so proud of you....
So... this would be ok?
Because your misappropriating white culture. If white culture isn’t real why are you fucking it up. It’s all based on European Middle Ages not African mud hut bullshit.
Exactly, 😂
Oh ffs.
Exactly. Selfish-racists are everywhere.
Whether they notion of Black Elves exist which they don’t should not matter what skin tone or height, matter. Whomever focus on such things goes to why racism is under line stain in the fabric of many folk minds which you can see when they open their mouths.
Actually their is literature with elves that have black skin. RA Salvatori Sojourn featuring Drizzt Do'Urden a Dark Elf.
How disgusting that these white supremacist Neanderthals can’t accept children, teens and fans of color who enjoy and identify with the fantasy. How selfish and bigoted. How wonderful that the majority of us will never accept this view.
It’s a story for Christ sake. I refuse to see color this.
Libo fascism here, daring anyone to publicly state they don' care for blue elves.
Im still waiting for tom hanks to play malcom x in a movie since race no longer matters
Do black walking skeletons exist? No. Do white walking skeletons exists? No. Then why do they matter to you?
WTF are you reporting? MSM is sooooooooo far out of touch it is not even funny anymore. Stop the hate, stop the divide, stop the propaganda.
Way to try to start shit, but the dude on the left is from House if the Dragon. Keep this BS up, it will backfire.
Lets have a Korean guy play Shaka Zulu
Dear Lord with the pandering BS base of garbage. Nobody cares. This isn’t news.
Maybe elves do exist - Shakespeare said it best: 'There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.' In every color imaginable.
No bias but what is this new corrupted term of Latino made into an identity in the past few decades to a people who are not of the Latin stock nor came from them. Latin, by culture, language, tribes originated & developed in what is Italy. It is their heritage, legacy for 2000 yr
under the new WOKE agenda color of skin is all that is important
Media video just resurfaced showing Trump moving boxes of documents from Fl to NJ on May 8, 2021. They look identical to the one in the crime scene pic.
Why can’t people just accept the fact that this show sucks ass?
Some people never played Elder Scrolls and it shows.
The Fake News media can dig up some weird shit.
We're not safe anywhere, we have to get the Democrats out so we can start the healing of our country.
白人のブラックパンサーなんて見たい？ それと同じだと思う。
Sad times
It’s all fantasy anyway, get over it!
MSNBC doing what they do best-race baiting.
When I write about racism in my blog they are they lowest read pieces I write. I am 70years old and we sure have not come very far in my lifetime.
When I read the books i pictured the dwarves as having a darker skin tone. Which is weird because they live underground.
Who are these people who made racist comments on social media? How many? Five? This kind of race baiting is despicable.
What about the Drow
Same things with mermaids. People really need to chill.
Actually they have Dark elves. I used know a D&D woman
Wow! You are pissing off the fans!!!
jessejholland is his Twitter handle
Dark skinned elves do exist in the game Dungeons & Dragons. I played as one 30 years ago.
Excellent point! Now... does this mean Caucasians can now wear sombreros, wear dreadlocks, and do the tomahawk chop?
The racists are big mad. Too bad! 🤣🤣🤣
YUP MORE RACIST PROPAGANDA FROM THE HATE NETWORK MSDNC!!!! Watching MSDNC will ROT YOUR BRAIN 🧠
Joe Biden and the DEMs continue to avoid dealing with the border crisis. Joe has allowed 100s of 1000s of illegal immigrants into our country that are now taking jobs away from our tax paying, law abiding US citizens. If your worried about losing your job vote REP in November!
Not when they are not part of the canon for the books we don't, screw around with authors from your own country by all means but when you screw around with Tolkiens characters to gain 'WOKE' points you turn beautiful literature into a steaming pile of turds.
ummm no. Tolkein was very detailed in his descriptions of the people in his books. Yes we imagine based on what is written , which is what is being adapted, correct? why would u adapt something if u arent satisfied with its established characters? thats insanity. make yours
I’d like to imagine a show that isn’t boring as fuck.
I don’t think there was any Chinese guy in Middle Earth either. I don’t think Chinese people would mind much at all except a handful of opportunists who want to play the race card.
If You Can Imagine that Biden is a President, Harris is a Vice President! & That The Entire Democrat Party has America's Best Interest at heart! Then You Can Imagine, That Santa, The Easter Bunny, And The Fairy Godmother had a Threesome and Made Nancy Pelosi! See I Can Do It Too!
Will this make it less boring?
Anyone that's flipping out because of casting is just a racist, bigot, snowflake. Just ignore their ignorant opinions.
So tired of racist LoTR fans ruining great stuff
Maybe Lifetime Movie Networks should be more diverse. Practically every movie on there the bad characters are white while the victims, cops, uprightone more often than not are black or some other minority. Where is the reality and balanced fairness here?
No offense but many are so defensive with history, cancel culture, tearing down statues, yet where is the outcry that Latin which is the heritage, legacy from what is Italy forover 2000 yrs has in past few decades been made an identity to another people on another continent
And the dem left play the race card more than anyone. Truthfully black actors playing life from medieval Europe is ridiculous just as white actors playing life in Sub-Sahara Africa from 600 years ago is.
Just because someone's language is Spanish that doesn't make one Latin, just as an American thst speaks English doesn't make one Germanic. For that matter what about French also derived from Latin, and Italian itself which is the closest to it since it came from their land.
Latino? Is a new corrupted form of Latin incorrectly made into an identity to a people in the past few decades that are not of the Latin stock nor came from them. Latin, by culture, language, tribes originated & came from what is Italy and is their heritage, legacy for 2000 yrs.
I’ve (mixed race) visited and celebrated with my family in Pontevedra, Galicia, Spain literally playing gaita (bagpipes) + wearing blue Tartan. Mixed ppl have been around 4 a bit, so I don’t see the big deal of having a dwarf of color based on Celtic culture be in the show.
Non-binary didn’t exist until 2021
We are all SLAVES still no black is ever king
Nope. You can't changes decades of established lore for the sake of modern diversity and expect Tolkein fans not to be upset.
I guess it doesn’t matter what Tolkien imagined?
Everything woke turns to shit
Black characters in Tolkien is appropriation.
Ok fine but make sure to cast Ryan Gosling as Black Panther and Chris Pine as Lamont in the Sanford and Son movie.
Id say its also a trope now to shove different ethnicities into different roles. But, it must go both ways. Acting is acting and any role should always go to the best person regardless of ethnicity. Unless it’s a historical show, no one should really care.
Cultural appropriation.
Yep
If it was a one off its one things The constant ramming of this type of shit is what makes it annoying And not just race but the ghey and troon stuff Going after our children against our beliefs with drag hour If you want it to be the norm start to do it organicly, not force
Dr. Meredith Raimondo’s egregious actions accusing Gibson’s Bakery of racism cost Oberlin College over $33,000,000. Students caught shoplifting pled guilty, denied racism was an issue.
Non binary is a joke
If that’s possible then why come . People who want this support it and buy it and develop a property dedicated to it and own it
Imagine if you wouldn't have racism as your bogeyman for everything?
How about 'don't be racist'? Not 'don't be racist because elves'. Just 'don't be racist'. That's all that's needed.
Jesus is coming back soon as a judge, repent of your sins, the wages of sin is death. Matthew 3:2 [2]'Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.'
this world is INSANELY huge, at 8 1h episodes, this could barely even touch on the notes left by JRR.. easy to imagine there'd be all sorts of diff colors/types of all peoples. think of how cultures like the romans knew of africa and celts. there WAS travel
We also need Anglo and Hispanic characters in the next 'Black Panther'.
mmoonboyen Gay
How could you be AWOL from the biggest battle since WWII. Ukraine is chasing one of the largest armies across its land like a whirlwind and you are yammering on about Trump. I've seen the same pictures over and over of the Queen. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT BREAKING NEWS IS!!
That's why, for years, I've said turning rasalvatores drizzt novels featuring black skinned elves would be problematic, as people would be all racist about it
It’s a woke joke
Way too much time on their hands.
What you're saying is nonbinary people belongs to fantasy movies Interesting 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
These are the people who say Star Trek is too woke. 🙄
It's not the casting. The show socks. Rather than deal with that, you cry racism.
I'm not big fan of that kindda epic stuff, but the final prison battle of 3rd episode is HUGE, pure fine art that i've seen few times, shocked me.
Typical leftist scream about discrimination, all the while the biggest discrimination group
Someone told me whatcha talking bout Willis? The orcs were there…. McFLY hello!!!!
So far quite childish. It's not GOT, House of Dragon, or even wheel of time.
Lol
It's all fine until you get to nonbianry...
most of those people compare fictional characters with real people too. it's a lost cause.
It's what happens when u take a good foundation and woke the shit out of it. (See league of your own)....House of Dragon has a shot of catching on LOTR not a chance
Kings landing had 1 Asian dude in the entire season! Lmao
Cringe
Ummm. Most people don't have any issue with HoTD. The rings of power however, is a hot pile of garbage that guts Tolkiens characters for the sake of being pc.
I don’t understand why people don’t believe Black people were not participants in the ancient world.
Wow, this is real
Shows everyone how racist Hollywood is before the woke agenda started. I love it! Look how they trying to hard to make up for decades of hate!!!! Stream for free all day
We dont care....the show is just awful. But....how about this. Ima be you. Ready ? Stop appropriate my culture. F.u. How you like it ? Thats what you do. Fun huh ?
White supremacy won’t allow them to imagine anything.
Beautiful gaslight. Just *chef's kiss*.
Yea cause they are quite similar
Wasn't Luke's dad from Starwars black?
its crap. Nothing about racism, Plain slow crappy show with an elf looking as a human, many thousands years old and behave like a 20 year old human. No elven feeling at all. 100 million and so crappy dialogues. Poor actors
Let's all imagine an Asian Malcom X
how do dwarves get dark living underground though?
Why not just make new original IPs instead of race swapping. Black ginger little mermaid lol .
Elie, Joy Reid, Don Lemon
The people who created the word whitewashing are now crying, lmao this is so funny.
The woke left is determined to 💩 on everything nothing is sacred anymore
Just because someone's language is Spanish that doesn't make one Latin, just as an American that speaks English doesn't make one Germanic. For that matter what about French also derived from Latin, and Italian itself which is the closest to it since it came from their land.
Every social media outlet endlessly spews divisive venom further eroding our society. Cut MSNBC, Fox, CNN, etc. out of your life and you’ll be much happier. Yes, racism is a problem. Running around with a megaphone reporting every instance of it does nothing to solve the problem
People are so defensive over history, with cancel culture, tearing down statues yet where is the outcry that Latin, which came from and is the heritage of Italy for over 2000 yrs has incorrectly been made an identity to another people on another continent in the past few decades
Why not a new series why mess with classics
Why can’t you imagine Asian characters? 🤔
The reason is not the ethnicity or sexual orientation, the real reason that annoyed people is why they add them: to reach a quota of diversity and not because of story reason. It's a wrongful trend in my opinion. They could be all black and gay who cares if the story makes sense.
You can put all of the African-American and minority actors in the TV show as you want that’s completely irrelevant the race doesn’t matter the show still sucks it’s terrible it’s the worst piece of television riding that’s ever been made.
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