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They can start by looking at their hearts.
Ask the people who left your churches.
Check in with the Koch Network on that. They’ve been manipulating the evangelicals since the 1980s.
Sifill_LDF I know the answer to that.
Those who can be made to believe absurdities can be made to commit atrocities. - Voltaire
pretty simple.. You stood in the crowd for 4 years saying 'we want Barabbas'. Nothing more, nothing less! recognize that!
Part of it has been church teachings, structure, methods, and silence.
People who believe in miracles and rising from the dead wonder how they were easily fooled by conspiracy theories 🤷♂️
roybelly This won't last long. As soon as the 2022 election cycle begins I guarantee it will begin again,
Maybe Dems who said illegals could vote, no ids, vast amount of paper ballots, impeach threat b4 took office, Dems collusion in last election, illegal spying on him by Dems, past election ineligible people voting. Yes why anyone think election rigged?
Was evangelicalism ever a good thing though? I'm serious, the only time I ever see evangelicalism being brought up is with those super church pastors who tell people to pay them to get into heaven, and to come to their in person mass to be cured of covid.
Alleluia! Praise the Lord!!
It took fours years and an uprising to conclude there is a problem with your faith and its' right wing authoritarian followers? What were you doing and thinking all that time?
Ask Franklin. He started this stuff with Trump adoration!
Ummmm...could it be that you have a whole group of people who believe they are RIGHT and have the answer to everything but will always be persecuted for it being led by people who believe in prosperity theology and will do and say anything for more money? Just a thought.
It's refreshing to read this conversion. Let others who used religion to protect Donald Trump and his minions start asking themselves tough questions.
I live in Wheaton, these people are nuts.
They have always been on the same track with the Falwell family
Once again religion and simple-minded people, tell him what they want to hear and they'll listen!
Because Donald Trump and family scammed, lied and conned you all.
He was NEVER pro-life, he just had to pretend to get their votes. You can't be pro-life then reinstate the death penalty, after 17 years & allow 13 deaths.
It's time white Evangelicals repent and from their wickedness. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Laughable, cult members asking for a reckoning
FoxNews & Facebook?
Because Christianity in America is steeped in white supremacy, so its easy for the weak to herald trump as their savior.
🎶Letting the days go by🎶
edstetzer All you need do is ask: 'How are so many people religious?' The answer is simple. It's called indoctrination. Repeat a lie often enough. People will believe it.
Franklin Graham
Can we finally admit who these people that supported Trump and attacked our Democracy really are? 👇🏼 Read: The Jericho March, Christianity, and the Capitol Siege - The Atlantic
Redemption through incarceration. Don't do the crime If you can't do the time. Let JUSTICE run its course. .
Billy, like his son Franklin, would have been on the Chump Train 100%.
This situation showed us how easily they will be fooled by the anti christ as well! He will actually be smart unlike Trump!
Maybe start with that ridiculous Rapture story that sounds like someone's bad LSD trip. AmIright or what?
Saying “we” is important here. Identifying the reformer with the sick is good leadership. How can those of us in the outside of the {evangelical supremacist conspiracy election result virus denial} culture help identify with them to lead them out of their morass?
Sifill_LDF Too fucking late. Come back in 10 years, maybe.
Let the answers be soul searching. And may the truth set you free.
Maybe ask Franklin and Ruth, who seem to be on a different track.
Franklin is the lead KOOL AID producer
This is a total joke! It doesn't take a genius to have seen what was happening for the last 4 years. When a white supremacist ran down a crowd with his car and Trump called them fine people, you Evangelicals still supported him. Religion is a conspiracy theory!
Wonder is edstetzer has talked with Rev. Franklin_Graham about his question? And what was the response? FoxNews WSJ nytimes washingtonpost CNN MSNBC AP Reuters bopinion MiamiHerald dallasnews sfchronicle KCStar ananavarro amandacarpenter GMA kaitlancollins
Voltaire warned us....'Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' This is FAR from over, folks.....the next days will bring more atrocities, more insurrectionists, more violence. Prepare
So disingenuous! Answer: power and money. As long as your chosen leader remained in power you benefitted by accruing money and power for yourselves. It’s a little late for “mea culpa,” you’ve been part of the big lie. Are you encouraging your followers to wear masks yet?
Part of your reckoning ought to be remove yourselves from all legislations. Separation of Church and State must be complied with. Shoving your dogmas down Americans throats is despicable and hypocritical.
The legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity. That's how we got here.
JenniferNeyhart How did they get there? By tying themselves to politics that might support some of their ideals, but consistently show they do not care at all about the common people's wellbeing, and by allowing wealth and power to influence them, more than they used Godliness for the same.
Blind faith. The hallmark of an evangelical.
Pretty simple. The Bible warned of false prophets. They don't come from the outside world, Evangelicals. They come from within. You all let them in and now look what has happened. Jesus warned about this all through his ministry but noooo.
This is how we got there.
suz4161 You got here because you worshipped the Golden Calf instead of following the teachings of the Lord.
'I think the scandal of the evangelical mind today is the gullibility that so many have been brought into — conspiracy theories, false reports and more...' Christian faith is built on false information, so of course they are gullible.
'How did we, a group founded on belief in the face of zero evidence, fall for a lie that had zero evidence?'
I just can't🤦🏻♀️
“How were we so easily fooled”...asked a guy who believes in an invisible superman in the sky that hands out rewards and punishments.
Thank you Mr Stetzer for challenging the Franklin Graham followers. Truly disgraceful sect/cult.
Huh? Well, because Franklin Graham is a rotten apple that fell very, very far from the tree. And he continues to promote his anti-Christian message that divides America, under the guise of piety. He personifies the worst of us.
The most easily lured in my family were into End Times theology of Tim LaHaye & Nationalist beliefs & the Muslim fear mongering turned into “we are better than others” mindset. Plus lots of slander without evidence was accepted because told to hate whoever was finger pointed
Wait, wait, wait. Didn’t Franklin Graham just say that all the GOPs who voted for impeachment were all like Judas? 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Satan is a liar, duh.
Ed, conspiracy theories are just the tip of the faux iceberg you've been fooled by. You're surrounded by grifters who are totally lacking in ethics of any kind. The emperor has no clothes, and has never had any.
He’s be a lot further down the path to reckoning if he could just admit how willing he was to trade judges for decent values... Accountability EmptyThePews
Sifill_LDF It’s easier to believe the insurrection was the tipping point because if you didn’t have a problem with Birtherism, Rejection of Science, Institutional Racism, Mocking the Physically and Mentally Challenged, Separating Infants/Children from their Parents, you need a new religion.
blinded by the light
they should do away with the Billy Graham center. the Grahams threw their credibility away.
Another white evangelical whitewash
Because your base resents those who have higher education.
Evangelical idiots.
...kind of slow on the uptake there...
Excellent article.
roybelly Can you guys throw the IL after that wheaton college. Seeing I'm an alumni of the one from MA. There needs to be an acknowledged different from the two schools.
Sifill_LDF Ok, you believe in a book full of fairy tales and riddled with inconsistencies...start asking yourselves that.
How?!?!?! What the actual F?!?! Maybe because you sat praising a man known for fraud, infidelity, vanity, and greed praising him as a religious hero. Now you question what went wrong, have you even opened your bible reverend Lovejoy?
How did we get there? You believed & followed a false prophet, made Trump your cult leader, & encouraged your church/followers to do the same. Don't cry foul now. The Lord will judge you accordingly.
“How did we get here?” Well, maybe because you sold your souls to the devil in exchange for conservative support for a handful of issues? Just a guess.
All of a sudden putting America First is a problem.
Sifill_LDF What is Ed’s networth...answer may sit there.
Sifill_LDF edstetzer Too many tax payer dollars. Without them better choices would have had to be made. TaxTheChurch
That’s is a very generous assessment of how many people would describe evangelicals. These issues predated Trump.
Sifill_LDF Talk to most any former white evangelical and they will tell you the two books of reverence in their house were the Bible and Mein Kampf. White evangelicalism is based on white supremacy. Period.
edstetzer You expect us to believe evangelicals were “fooled” by DJT? Nonsense. They pledged loyalty to a false idol for a means to power-They’re Christians in name only. I’m a Christian, I know evil when I see it. And they knew better.
KevinRKrause prime fools
Yes how and are you going to deprogram everyone of faith🤔🤔
Its called indoctrination, which leads to willful ignorance!
This is how you got here. Everyone wants to be able to blame all their woes on one person but this is decades of Republican policy. Look at the graph people! They hate your guts, every single one of you.
EmptyThePews Exangelicals Evangelical
Um 🤔 Racism. Sexism. Classism. Religious superiority that needs at least the prior. 💡
Sifill_LDF Perhaps you should be talking to Franklin Graham (Billy’s son) as he is a close friend of Trump and spewed his nonsense.
White supremacy is how you got there.
They liked what Trump, Fox News & Murdoch was selling. They LIKED it. No reckoning needed.
Why is he pontificating about conspiracy theories? Billy was one that pushed them!
Good book about early evolution pre 80 election with schism of Christians away from Carter to Reagan. Forget title...
roybelly How did you get here? By embracing White Supremacy, misogyny and vilification of the poor. Next question
Evangelicalism in the United States is part of America's problem. Politicalized evangelical congregations and white power groups common foe: communism a threat to christianity. Ridiculous but true. They stand in the way for climate change reform and so much more.
Sifill_LDF One clue, the msm paid too much attn to WHITE so-called evangelicals & has pretty much ignored Black “evangelicals”; referred to that constituency as “the black church community. “Evangelicals” has never really been inclusive but rather just a microcosm far right wing.
Religion is literally a conspiracy theory. That is why religious people are so easily buying into conspiracy theories...
Sifill_LDF Meanwhile Franklin Graham:
Umm, they believe a quasi-Jewish character in a set of religious stories written 2000 years ago is going to 'save' them from Satan and all the invisible principalities that inhabit the earth. Their belief system got them here and primed their minds to believe nonsense. Duh!
AngelaRR56 Easy, it was willfully done. Any investigation that doesn't acknowledge this fact, is merely more validation of bad behavior
Sifill_LDF You guys literally branded the mark of the Beast on your foreheads and blindly followed the great orange wad of bile and phlegm who never met a commandment or a law that he didn't break, then wipe his crappy ass on. Evil. And you worshipped it.
Sifill_LDF Evangelical Christianity and white supremacy are part and parcel of each other. They have been entwined since this country was founded.
Sifill_LDF Franklin_Graham JerryFalwellJr robertjeffress Paula_White pastormarkburns Time to stop watching Fox News and checking your financial investments. Long overdue that you focus on reading and FOLLOWING, the Teachings of Jesus. So much of your own Corruption & Greed.
Sifill_LDF To start…you believe in an imaginary super power rather than science and facts 👀
Sifill_LDF White supremacy personified in the cult of Trump is the golden calf of the evangelical church.
Sifill_LDF Simple, Evangelicals are mostly simpletons that believe a lot of shit as long as it comes from a pastor... sheep’s to slaughter in search of an imaginary sky fairy!
Sifill_LDF Every GOP elected, and every GOP mouthpiece, must state the truth that Biden legitimately won a legitimate election. This is baseline for any option to move forward. To avoid more violence speak out: Biden Won. No appeasing of fascist dictator wannabe for failed coup.
Sifill_LDF How did you get here? Lying.
Tell. It. To. Franklin_Graham
Sifill_LDF It started with the virgin birth.
Sifill_LDF Tell. It. To. Franklin. Graham.
Sifill_LDF How were the EVANGELISTS fooled by conspiracy theories? Hm. Let’s think hard about that one. Believing in something someone they don’t know made up. About something of which there’s absolutely no proof. Shouted & repeated multiple times by multiple sources. This is a stumper.
Sifill_LDF Start with Franklin.
Sifill_LDF What it's 'time' for is religion to be marginalized, not promoted. Reasonable people can see it does nothing but cause harm.
The mindset of evangelism are the buttons he pushed, an us versus them attitude. The philosophy of Jesus takes a back seat in the name of power, it’s a failure of leadership clearly.
Well, when you already believe in a sky king you’re willing to believe anything from Trump/Dear Leader.
How? Because these people are naive and stupid, and they don’t see hypocrisy even when it’s standing nose to nose with them. So pitiful. Some people are too stupid to deserve a vote.
Let me save you 5 seconds of reckoning: You got here by believing in total bullshit 24-7-365.
This just in: People that believe a white man with a beard created the whole mechanism of the universe but strangely cares if they masturbate, easily fall for whackadoo conspiracy theories. More at 11.
How did we get here, Ed? Ask Franklin Graham.
Good, they should look inward
Because you wanted to
People want a villain. They want something big and out of their control to be working against them. They don’t want to admit that the thing working against them is chance or their own failures. They want it to be big and earth-shattering. They refuse to accept blame.
My question as evangelical? Why Billy Graham head Ed Stetzer encouraged people to vote from Trump in 2020 if they already know Trump was a lie ?
Evil ! It’s simple , nothing Trump has ever done is a Christian act . And until they can admit they were fooled enough to do evil and repent , they will not be free of Satans guidance !
I’ve got a message also
Thanks God not all evangelicals are in that boat. I never support Trump because his 0 morality and all his lies. Jesus is the true!
It’s the whole concept of Republican Jesus. The idea that Jesus is somehow a pro-gun, anti-immigrant, supporter of the ‘prosperity gospel’ is insane. The fact that the religious right supported Trump shows it’s not about Christianity but about power.
My invitation to white supremacists...
Uhmmmm....
They got there by ignoring the true message of Jesus and instead worshipping false idols, ie. The GOP
Nelson Price needs to answer this as well.
Most biblical scholars believe 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 was referring to one of the Roman emperors. But the passage is about a leader deceiving people, and the phrase “they will believe the lie” keeps popping into my head in relation to what’s happening in the US now.
It’s easy, they wanted to get there! Right in their proverbial “wheelhouse.”
White supremacy. That’s how.
These are devil worshipping talibangelicals. FBI needs to infiltrate make friends and find the real nuts. How many are Qnuts
It’s about f’ing time!!
Any group that considers themselves “very religious” is because they have the weakest minds. So there you have it. The weakest minds are prone to fall for conspiracy theories. After all, that’s what religions are, just some theories.
Excellent questions! Righteous indignation maybe?
Blind loyalty is not a good idea. Blind loyalty in any single person is a really bad idea.
I’ve got some bad news for you...
It needs to begin challenging their foundations, not using Bilky Graham name anymore. Billy Graham's son for instance, promotes DT everywhere.
These large evangelical churches were made for the purpose of profiting the leader by scamming ignorant Christians. They are definitely were not into teaching critical thinking. That their membership then went for some other scam is not surprising. Ed is surprising, however.
Religious people getting duped by a different kind of theory is refreshing.
This is an extremely disingenuous question. I grew up in evangelicalism in the 1970s and '80s; they constantly peddled conspiracy theories even then. Not to mention that the entire foundation of the movement is *believing without evidence*.
Ummm... Oh, my little atheist brain is about to explode!
The faces of those who missed hale bop. Apparently it's a slippery slope from evangelical to cult.
Fear, nostalgia, and the desire to have things our own way.
I am a Christian who has been bashed by Evangelicals for the past few years because I 'didn't understand that tRump was doing God's work.' They didn't want to hear about his obvious lies, scamming, etc and said that he was misunderstood.
Evangelicals chose Trump instead of god. They’re frauds, everyone.
They weren’t fooled. They willingly sold their souls for Supreme Court judges, and they got them. I’ll never buy this “woe is me, we need to be moral again” BS.
Simple. Go back to basics. There are no gods other than God. Don’t take up with people who brazenly flaunt the Ten Commandments. And maybe clean up your own houses before telling others how to live their lives. Lead by example.
People who believe in big sky man want to know how they were so easily fooled
How could they not recognize such obvious evil?
Well Ed, if you believe in a talking snake you’ll believe anything.
How were we so easily fooled by fairy tales? Asks people who take a 4500 year old story book literally.
I bet little Franklin is having a fit over this article seeing that he's the loudest evangelical trumpist out there.
So NOW they have an epiphany? Jailing children, 400,000 dead, lies, bullying, didn’t do it. It took violent insurrection. These are stupid people.
They are BOTH cults. MAGACult = RadicalWhiteChristianity
Lol disingenuous gesture at best
Cause you fakas JUST WANT YOUR FLOCKS MONEY. “How did we get here “? You fakas are greedy, that’s fucing how.
Franklin Graham has helped the delusion
White evangelicals? Jesus was NOT white, yet a human being. Oh! I am sorry, he was born in Germany. Lol. You are a bunch of fools who can never convert me. The day of reckoning is now. Things will get worse if you don't change. We are all dust. You, people, should behave now.
Y'all were fine with it because the rebublicans were anti abortion and you cared about nothing else.
When they start using the word reckoning you know something weird is about to happen. “As gawd as my witness this is the day of reckoning!!1”.
Because they’ll believe anything
They did this to get along and prosper for 4 years now they wanna start thinking!?
mtgreenee even Billy Graham is asking how y’all got here. Stop spreading lies and hate.
American evangelicals are part of America’s problem
OlderMusicGeek Uhhhh, Jonah lived inside that whale.
Sure looked like willfully embracing the devil. But I'm all for forgiveness, so do please wake up, and throw away the devil's words, turn away from Trump for good.
Oh, that's easy. They follow prosperity gospel, one of the most demonic of biblical readings.
Hmmm, Ed, you’re almost there, you’re in the right track. How could evangelicals fallfor conspiracy theories so easily Keep thinking on it, I’m sure you’ll get there eventually
It’s not like Trump did this to the Evangelical movement. They’re not victims. They voted for him in two elections precisely because of his white nationalist/Christofascist ideology, championing a platform of racism, xenophobia, sexism, and a blatant disregard for human rights.
evangelicals are fake christians
How did we get here? Start out by believing you will have life after death, but only if you believe what I believe, then declare the devil has set the world against you
Evangelical 'christians' start at their preferred conclusion and then work backwards to justify their beliefs. Jesus would be ashamed of them. Every single one of them.
Abortion is a prominent issue as to why evangelicals supported Trump. If you believe that abortion is murder, it is very difficult to vote for a candidate that supports abortion. That’s why the GOP has control of the evangelical base.
What a bunch of hooey.
Nothing about White, just evangelicals. Jeez
People who regularly fool others about a book translated by monks and others to suit their own purposes ask that question? Huh 🤔
Ask Franklin Graham.
There are millions who were not fooled. Perhaps evangelicals should read the teachings of Jesus again and STOP FOLLOWING FALSE PROPHETS. Go to the source, not those who try to get attention and donations. 'You will know them by their fruits.'
Lift high the cross The love of Christ proclaim Til all the world adore His sacred name
The church just spews lies. EX: in 1980, our pastor reported that, 'Huge flocks of ravens, millions,have gathered in Israel, to eat the dead corpses of Israels enemies'. Pure bullshit. The Christian church is the primary source of lies.
That’s cute but they know what the answer is, they weren’t fooled. He was a means to an end. They want authoritarianism. That’s been true long before Trump and it’ll be true after him.
On point. 👏👏👏
You could start by removing Franklin Graham… As a leader, he totally led the entire program so far a field that I doubt they could ever find the path again
This a cult! Why don't you all join Scientology!
A big part of how Evangelicals got 'there' is racism. Good 'ole fashioned American racism.🤨
Lol that's a serious question How is it possible our followers believe fantastical stories that have no basis in truth and are predominantly rooted in injustice and oppression? Weird... 😉
Because the execution of power and the avarice of goals were willing replacing the words of God. 'Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.' - John 4:1
Let’s see: maybe because the brand of religion they espouse is an oppressive, repressive, patriarchal one in which they can’t think for themselves? I lived in Wheaton for awhile and am familiar with this brand.
He’s right, I and many others define Evangelicals as far right extremist now. They earned that title.
Because you’re a cult
These people were duped by a New York City real estate developer. This is not surprising.
Well that’s an easy answer: you based your orthodoxy on abundance (greed) and not humility and serving humanity.
Hell, they are fooled by preachers who tell the God spoke to them & unless he raises more money he will die. Remember Oral Roberts? So it's not surprising they fall for conspiracy theories.
Blind faith. It’s not hard to understand, but it is what brought America to this point.
EricDrosin Surely organised religion was the first, and is the ultimate, conspiracy theory? If you believe God created the world in 7 days, 10,000 years ago, you’ll surely believe any old nonsense.
In other words, they’re impressed by tRUmp’s grift, and want in
I'll disagree, it should read, How did we sell our Souls so easily to a GrifterAndCon
Because the church is made of flawed people who have been trained to accept things without proof. They also have a Bible to cherry-pick and misquote to suit their needs.
I’d say that evangelicals by their nature are sheep and willing to follow extreme beliefs in general
Too many Christians are told to believe in Christ with blind faith and are told questioning faith and using critical thinking about God is a sign of the devil. So can we really be surprised that those same people have failed to question Trump and critically think about his lies?
There is no reckoning going on. My evangelical family in law is still 100% behind Trump.
Not here, wasn't fooled, but I was over there, just not heard.... NEVER MY POTUS
Ed is a Christian
Because evangelicals lack a doctrine for the evangelical mind meaning intellectualism. Mark Noll, a renowned evangelical scholar pointed this out 26 years ago. Start with the reading of The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind.
How did you get fooled? On my... how much time do you have?🙄
Do they REALLY want to know these answers, I feel they really don’t.
Who knew having entire belief system based on 0 evidence, could lead to believing all sorts of other dumb shit with 0 evidence?!
Seriously, he’s just now coming to this realization?
Oh Franklin Graham was was not fooled by Trump, he was instrumental in promoting Trump.
As Hitchens used to say; the religious are always the perfect marks for con-men because they have, at the outset, demonstrated the ability and gleeful willingness to suspend disbelief. That’s’ “how we got here.”
I think his true line of self questioning is, “How can we keep our tax deferred status?”
Yes, evangelicals start the deprogramming now. It’s time to wake up!
You guys believe some guy died and came back to life right?
Do they watch Fox News?
Well, you got greedy and needed more ways to screw little dementia and Covid impacted folks out if every penny they could lay their hands on. You are the money changers, the false prophets and you should bow your heads in shame. Do something good, if you can even remember how
CALIFORNIA SCHWARZENEGGER WHO GAVE us KILLING FOR PROFIT CAP AND TRADE $3.5 BILLION COLLECTED $100 BILLON FIRE DAMAGES $100 BILLION FLOOD DAMAGES 100 BURNED ALIVE 100 DROWNED ALIVE REPUBLICANS LYING AND DENYING DEADLY GLOBAL WARMING PANDEMIC IS G W
Good question.
Okay, but Mr Stetzer needs to take it one giant step further: how do they work to repair the damage right wingers have caused during the past four years?
A bit late on this call to reckoning
Fools rush in....
Then how come Franklin Graham is stoking it all?
Trump should have never been allowed to represent the Republican party. Trump is not a moral man. Trump is a con man. Republicans must demand honest leadership in their party in order to regain their former strength. It is the Republican disinformation strategy that failed.
When u have to have security at a religious rally you know there’s a problem.
Because if you believe there’s a magical being in the clouds, controlling our every move, YOU’LL BELIEVE ANYTHING
Funny you would say that because Franklin Graham is still under Trump's spell.
If evangelicals are serious about a reckoning they could learn a lot by (actually!) listening to the people that left cc: C_Stroop
Is that a serious question?
We watched the news peddle a Russian one for fours?
A tad late now. Has anyone asked them about the damage they've done to the rest of us, to our Democracy?
WTH?!!! The rest of us have been screaming for 4 years. You snubbed us. NOW!!! You wonder?
I escaped the fundamental world. Looking at it from outside I can say they are taught to believe what they are told. No critical thinking, no questions, no difference of opinion. Those traits are associated with Satan. The whole lot of them are brainwashed.
The whole Billy/Franklin Graham organization is a sham anyways.
MosesDidItBest The Billy Graham Center? Jeezy! Might want to start with cults that primed folks for this in the first place.
Evangelicals have been off the rails for years. They were high jacked in the late 1970 by none other than.... Billy Graham. Their bait at that time was abortion. Before that evangelicals had no stance on it.
Those questions should have been asked 4 years ago. It’s a bit too late now.
Easy. Once you believe one myth then you'll believe anything.
Because your blind faith is combined with an arrogant bigotry that makes you feel superior to people of other religions and races when in fact you are not.
Evangelicals & elements of Christian community's enabling of most corrupt & anti-social individual caused long term damage to church.
Hint: Religious beliefs and beliefs in conspiracies require the same leaps of logic and mental gymnastics.
Christofascism is the cause of the fall of Christianity and the United States of America.
Easy: you traded faith for power. Ignored Jesus’ actual teachings (about charity, wealth, the outcast) in favor of things Jesus never preached about (homosexuality, abortion). Sold your souls for judges
The reckoning is happening now? Not during the last 4 years?
GlennonDoyle perhaps you could talk to them about your insightful thoughts about where evangelical movement got to where they are.
kimicals yes, how on EARTH did the evangelicals become so susceptible to conspiracy theories 🙄🙄🙄🙄
The answers to how they got there are numerous and pretty obvious to the rest of us.
hblodget Why wasn’t Ed concerned about a reckoning 6 months ago or a year ago or two years ago? There’s only one thing that’s changed in that time.
exactly - those are the kinds of self-reflective questions to be asking - if any of us are going to learn anything to help us improve and make better decisions in the future we always have to pause and reflect - wisdom follows
Y’all need to pay some taxes......
Learn how to recognize a cult
Any videos of 2017 riots on Washington by left wing nuts burning and looting during Trump's innauguration ?
Well once they started lying about abortion and contraception it was an easy toboggan ride down the actual slippery slope to accepting other lies.
They believe in Jesus, don't they?
Because you believe in a thousands years old text. You believe things are “in god’s hands” & out of your control so you take no personal responsibility.
Now, they want to backpeddle...
How about all those evangelical “leaders” start by talking in the first person.
'How were we so easily fooled by conspiracy theories?' That's easy. You heard what you wanted to hear and accepted it without question.
The Scarecrow in Wizard of Oz wished for a brain.
Maybe actually reading the Bible occasionally would help. The red parts, especially.
A: You condition your “flock” to follow. You are surprised they did just that? Stop brainwashing them and you won’t fall for this BS again. edstetzer
Hate and lust for power
You were so focused on pushing your neo conservative agenda you sold you souls to the devil. You worship false idols
Well your fan base is easily manipulated to begin with (extreme religion) so their brains are vulnerable to external forces telling them what to do.
Every time we say racism they ask the question again as if the answer will change. From the homophobia to the misogyny to the xenophobia and beyond, whiteness is the motivating factor.
They got brainwashed by religion
kittyclinton2 Whatever, they need to pay taxes.
How did you all get there? Lack of critical thinking skills are a requirement to be a religious sycophant. How did you get there lmao
Please. They’ve always been “there.” And “there” they will stay.
Maybe edstetzer you don’t encourage rationale thinking and prefer lies and conspiracies that align to your preferred theology ?
How did you get there!! Your flock is too stupid to think for themselves. They turned it all over to you guys and they did what you told them to do. Get thee gone and don't come back until you understand Matthew 25:40 Then repent.
When you believe fanciful stories as the bedrock if your life it must be hard to discern fake from real
If you can believe in immaculate conception, you can be tricked into believing all Democrats are pedophiles
SEinecke In 1976, our pastor told us,'if Jimmy Carter wins, Communists will arrest us,and pour molten lead down our throats'. After peddling conspiracies forever, now they wonder.
The fairytale white imam's seem worried for insighting the weak of mind. Jail, zero cash flow.
Mr Stetzer, you got here b/c your primary objective was a political one and not a humanitarian or religious one. Your excitement about elevating your brand blinded what should have been your only objective edstetzer
I'm not abandoning Trump. Why should I? He's the best president of my lifetime and the more the media lies and propagandizes about him... the more I support him. They hate Trump bc they actually hate me.
So they are losing control of their flock and donations.
These people already base their lives on bronze age jewish fairy tales as told by grifting preachers. Did they speak in tongues when wondering how they got here?
Evangelical congregations across the Country were calling Trump the second coming of Christ. They brainwashed their followers into believing that Trump was their savior. There isn’t going to be any accountability for political leaders, heads of churches, or the media, is there?!
YOU CAN TELL A TREE BY THE FRUIT IT BEARS
When they say we are a “Christian” country they mean WHITE..now that they’re being looked as lunatics for aligning themselves with straight up terrorists they’re doing damage control. Why don’t they get the same criticisms as mosques? These people get too many passes.
Because Christians decided a long time ago that they would stoop to nothing to uphold their position in a white supremacist system. The pogroms targeting Jewish people in Europe over many centuries were based on the same paranoid, vicious, intentional lies that are still told.
He asks 'how did we get here?' It's not new. It's political-religion cult. It's might makes right cult. You used an emperor for crusades. A Catholic ruler to kill Protestants. Then a Protestant to kill Catholics. Then you enslaved blacks and slaughtered native nations.
It's simple really. Evangelicals simply are not christian. Live with it.
NPR, be nice if this was given air time so Asians can get a break
I grew up with Billy Graham in my house. My dad loved and admired him. But watching his son embrace Trump was surreal. I couldn’t believe it. Giving him a pass constantly. His father would be shocked. So I no longer respect the Graham name. Franklin_Graham
Great. A little late. The minions will just say he’s being pressured by the deep state.
You already mark yourself as easily fooled by being taken in deeply by organized religion. It requires you to take someone’s word for something for which there is NO evidence, & facts point strongly to your belief bring false. You are primed to be fooled by a political charlatan.
Because they're easily brainwashed simpletons who believe in magic
He built it. It's a foundational rock of Evangelicalism.
Their wake-up call should have been when Trump had people teargassed for his upside down bible photo-op.
How did evangelicals get here? Easy answer: Hatred, racism, misogyny, sexism, and xenophobia.
How are evangelicals so fooled by conspiracy theories? Isn’t that an oxymoron?
Sorry. Can't see this as anything but feigned innocence too late to change a thing.
“How were we so easily fools by conspiracy theories?” Lol You believe that a woman was inpregnated by God and that man made miracles and died for all the worlds sins. You believe in the story of Noah. You believe Jonah was aten by a whale and survived. Shall we go on?
Franklin_Graham
Took four years to come to this “reckoning”? I wonder if Trump had won a second term if this “reckoning” would’ve happened at all? I reckon not
You can put the blame on religious leaders who felt like having the policies they support be advanced is more important than calling out the lies and misinformation of the president. Integrity means having to sacrifice a benefit if it cost you your principles.
False prophets....Franklin Graham stood and said, trump was sent by God! Yes if you worship the devil
Maybe they could actually read the Bible? Start there.
Yet his boy Franklin is burrowing further up Chump’s ass....okay dude, whatever you say.
Turning your back on what you preach. Spewing fear in order to control the masses. The end justifies the means to push your agenda. Power corrupts. The outcome of mixing religion and politics
Imagine spending your whole life believing nonsense, and then wondering why you believe some particular nonsense.
Gee. If only there was a hint to indicate why religious people are susceptible to believing unsubstantiated conspiracies and mythology. I don't think there's a rule that says a venn diagram has to have more than one circle.
When the Christian evangelicals wake up to the fact that theyve been deceived by trump and white supremacists, America will truly be the greatest country ever.
I doubt Franklin_Graham agrees with a word of this.
They’re easily fooled by their own religion too. These people aren’t that bright.
Let him start with Franklin Graham.
Absolutely hilarious!
That's easy. White Evangelicals voted to maintain white supremacy. No, no, no. . . Don't run away. That's what you did. It is what it is. We told y'all what was up, smh.
White Supremacy and racism, but y’all already know this
Beware, stay the course remember those who keep churches of all denominations CLOSED are dems. used this for election leverage. Only God is in charge he’s the one to give Reckoning not dems. Don’t follow LUCIFER.
When your baseline is worshipping an imaginary autocrat in the sky it isn’t a great leap to an earthly one.
Caused by Franklin Graham, Joel Osteen, Jerry Falwell, Jr., and most of the right-wing preachers all over America. They follow them instead of God. Just as bad as Twitter or FB.
Seriously? I'm assuming you watch and read what your leaders say. That should have told you everything. smdh
*as someone who was part of premillenial, evangelical church * No, not at all surprising.
Holy fuck ! Evangelicals are turning. Now they’re now gonna feigne not knowing how racist, amoral, unprincipled and dangerous their Bible holder was.
Start with acting like brainless sheeple....its easy after that.
Trump is their golden idol.
Evangelics...nah nah nah nah. You own this one forever.
Greed and white privilege
I’ve been keeping an eye on CalvaryChapel and I’ve been really surprised to see how far they went. Total freaks, totally replaced Jesus with a man. Its confirmation leaving religion was a good move for my family.
Just a wild punt here, but could it be because they’re capable of believing that a man was miraculously born of a virgin, rose from the dead and ascended into heaven?
I have an idea. Maybe Christians could pay attention to the 10 Commandments.
White evangelicals are a bunch of hypocrites with a dying ideology based on full scale distortion of Jesus. They turned a N. African SLAVE Leader into a blond, blue eyes KING. They distorted his message for Love & Peace into Hate & Division.
Oh! Oh! Oh! I want to answer that one. It started back in the 70s when they started listening to Jerry Falwell and he became a political movement. When they decided to weaponize women’s health for control of the government. That was the beginning.
This will make everyone sit up and take notice
They can only blame their own stupidity.
Fuck all of them.
Imagine that, an ideology predicated upon the absence of evidence (belief) is experiencing a crisis amongst it's followers being susceptible to conspiratorial thought.
Because they’re sheep.
Author Anne Nelson has already documented how they got here. Unfortunately, we all are suffering from the concerted effort to make evangelicals a reliable voter block. This book is a must-read:
well f'ing amen
I mean, look at the crazy shit that Christians believe.
Root problem racists.
Finally!!!!!
Pssst: because your “parishioners” hate black people.
Umm, perhaps people who are taught to follow religion without question are primed to not have critical thinking skills?
Good. Lord, reveal the truth to them.
Christian nationalism is domestic terrorism.
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