Epstein death brings birth of mainstream conspiracy theories

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Analysis: Epstein death brings birth of mainstream conspiracy theories

Jeffrey Epstein — his perversions, and the perversions of justice swirling around his case — has lived for years on the margins of politics because of his association with two presidents, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, among others in a long roster of people with respectable titles who spent time in his disreputable orbit.

More profoundly, the Epstein matter is now thoroughly political because many influential people are unable to take the details at face value. Indeed, they think it is simply naïve to do so. This president’s political movement began with Trump’s disproven allegations that Barack Obama was not born in the United States, and rose to power in an election that was manipulated by a Russian propaganda campaign, leading to an administration with near-daily denunciations of well-documented journalism as “fake news.

“A guy who had information that would have destroyed rich and powerful men’s lives ends up dead in his jail cell. How predictably….Russian,” tweeted MSNBC host Joe Scarborough. “AG lied to us about the Mueller report in order to protect his boss, Trump. He was in charge of Epstein’s care. And we’re just supposed to trust him on this as news breaks that Mar-a-Lago was a site for trafficking,” wrote Neera Tanden, head of the liberal Center for American Progress, on Twitter.

Bill Clinton frequently used Epstein’s jet for foreign travel after leaving the White House but said he knew nothing about what has since been alleged to be Epstein’s serial predations of under-age girls and young women. To end a sex crimes case, Epstein in 2008 reached a plea agreement with prosecutors in Florida that was later excoriated as too lenient.

 

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Please stop calling it a conspiracy theory. You're not going to play this off complicit

Epstein is not dead. He's happy and doing well. It's all a scam by the very rich and powerful.

Has anyone seen the body and identified it as Epstein

The only conspiracy theory is that Epstein killed himself

Correction: Democrats brought on the birth of Mainstream conspiracy theories with the Russian collusion hoax.

Conspiracy theories? Omg I haven’t seen one of those since trump/Russia collusion

One thing this Epstein episode has demonstrated: There are about as many tinhats on the Left as on the Right. And about as many on each side suffering with Dunning Kruger Effect.

I heard Thomas J. Barrack was trying to sell nukes to the Saudi's until a source told me he was trying to sell nudes of Simon! A lot happened in the Equinox Locker Room!

Investigate it publicly

Old enough to remember JFK?

Guess who?

The only ppl taking the details at face value are DNC Foot-soldiers in MSM. wapo, NYTimes, Politico, MSNBC, CNN et al are the only ones uncurious about the circumstances. For some reason no in the press has figured out his Epstein made $. Everyone else uses common sense.

We need to see the body. He isn't dead until we see the body.

I’m trying to figure out what “face value” is. There’s nothing but contradictory comments coming out from MMC. Also, guards who work at MMC are posting their opinions based on years of experience.

Whose 'face value' are you thinking we should take it at? Mainstream media? Politicians? Alphabet agencies? If we don't question things, we are just sheep.

WHAT details?! The ones you're going to make up?! Haven't heard them yet!

We believe NOTHING the media presents to us at “face value”. The media is an anti-American propaganda machine aiding and abetting the undermining of the United States and our once collective morals and values.

Well when you have a, track record like this I think questions need to be asked. Unl of course you're trying to hide something.

2019, when the freedom fighters known as journalists want everyone to just accept things at face value. Nice!

Americans love a mystery. We have so many ifs in this case. Makes the Hercule Poirot in all of us come out. Agatha Christie would be on the telley if she was alive making book on who done it. This is going to be better than playing Clue.

“The signature of American politics in the Trump era is a conviction that things are not what they seem...”. Didn’t start with trump. Didn’t start with “Russian Facebook ads.” Prolly started before 11-22-63. It’s frustrating and demeaning to act like this is new

I think Russian collusion beat Epstein to the mark.

The biggest conspiracy theory was Russian collusion, which was shoved down our throats. The American people aren’t dumb. A camera suddenly malfunctions during the fake suicide of a high profile rat who had ratted out people before to save his own hide? Where is the body?

Oh F off with this. What is a conspiracy but a group of people CONSPIRING against something? A group of rich pedos decided that one rich pedo was a liability and got rid of him. He had to much dirt on people.

Details? What are those details?

Interesting how humpty trumpty is blaming epstein's death on humpty trumpty's perceived enemies. If humpty trumpty is blaming anyone, you know he had something to do with the death of epstein because humpty trumpty blames everyone else for his own deeds. Think about it.

You’ve been pushing conspiracy theories about Russia for 3 years now you want ppl to take things at face value 😂😂😂😂

It’s too much to expect that any of your journalists would actually do journalism and look into this. Then maybe you’d be taken seriously as a reputable pub. If it doesn’t fit your narrative you are apparently not interested. Got it.

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That’s because it’s sketcjy as shit.

So you amplify the 'suicide' conspiracy theory before the coroner even examines the body and reports a cause of death. Seems like Politico cant stick to the plain facts either.Politico proclaimed suicide before the body was cold as if it was god given fact.

How do you know its a conspiricy theory? That would indicate you know what happened. Articles like this exposes your own agenda and commitment to protecting pedophiles. You can't see it but everyone with an enquiring mind can. protects pedophiles.

There is only one detail - he's dead. After that, only questions.

'Hands up! Don't shoot!' turned out to be a lying conspiracy. CNN paid their people to spread it. ClintonsBodyCount is up to 48 now...not counting Ambassador Stevens and the other fellows.

'Some people.' Like those with brains?

Hello complicit . They are not conspiracy theories. It is fact he was murdered.

Like the outcome of the 2016 election?

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It was predicted by millions. There is significant precedent for untimely death to those who might threaten the Clinton crime family.

Since when has a liberal news agency taken anything at face value? Laughable.

Oliver Stone is already writing a very bad script embellished with extraneous nonsense.

As many high powered people had a vested interest in Epstein’s silence, it would’ve been smart for Prosecuters to put him in witness protection to keep him safe. His trial was a year away. Too much could happen in a year. If they didn’t, they weren’t very smart.

Politico... buddy... this article is a horror show of Anti-Trump, anti-Barr conspiracy-tinfoil-hat vomit... and you are supposed to be unbiased?

You mean a suicide that literally EVERYONE predicted, which could gave easily been prevented, where cameras were mysteriously 'offline' is causing people to question the validity of the press release, and somehow those questions are unreasonable? Good luck with that narrative.

Nothing to see here, move along!!! WOW, what REAL journalism, you must be so proud 🤣

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Spin and distraction have become the political mainstream. These are not 'theories'. The press just let themselves be dupes in the game.

even the folks from the UK were chiming in with the discussion 😂💦☔️

Donald Trump's election has brought conspiracy theories into the political mainstream, with many influential people unable to take the details at face value. FIFY

Seriously it is so obvious that something isn't right with this whole situation. One of those theories is more right than any theory on Climate Change.

ClintonsBodyCount is not a conspiracy

1. Epstein was trying to make a deal by 'naming names' 2. He 'attempted' suicide 2 wks ago 3. Put on suicide watch 4. Files of old case became public 5. He was taken off suicide watch hours before his death 6. CCTV camera's 'malfuntioned' Not a conspiracy theory... a CONSPIRACY.

Duh.

So we are Conspiracy theorists because we know that this narcissist didnt commit suicide? Just Wow ! If he really is dead and not in protective custody I can guarantee u his blood is on the Clinton's hands ! They've got so many dead bodies lying around them its ridiculous

There is a cover up because he was about to open is mouth.United States should wake up .president Trump is killing America because if you know too much about him you better run for ur life

Politico writers room. Journalists have zero credibility. Biased until proven otherwise.

Government: The highest profile criminal in our custody killed himself, after attempting to kill himself a week ago, while not being watched and also during a perfectly timed camera malfunction. Also Government: We're going to need those guns of yours. Yea, I don't think so.

Lol- we’ll yeah. Don’t you love the one about Russia?

Just like the left and the 2016 election

That didn’t take long.

“Conspiracy Theory”Arrested&convicted of crimes that should’ve kept him in prison for years. Gets slap on the wrist.Arrested again this time no bail.May have evidence against politicians&1%ers. Attempted”suicide”.Put on suicide watch,taken off.Kills himself,cameras”malfunction”🤦‍♂️

Whenever I hear a leftist organization call something a “conspiracy theory” I instantly think there’s the target.

Now do Russia.

Epstein brought conspiracy theories into the political mainstream Not Russia-trump conspiracy? Wait .... that’s true as Russia-Trump wasn’t a conspiracy it was an out and out lie and frame job.!!!

Zero proof of evidence he is dead. Lying propaganda media, lying propaganda newspapers, & a grainy pic. BULLSHIT

Lol. How much are the Clintons paying you?

You say that as if you have some kind of credibility. weird

Every time the media prints an article like this, full of misleading info...they are knowingly helping predators. Good job.

It has actually confirmed that we've lost our Nation, & it is now another playground of the cesspool of demonic pedophile so-called elite of this world and is past time we purge them all out of existence

What's the matter? Somebody stealing your schtick?

Clinton: I did not have sex with those young girls. He was on his plane nearly 50 times. Nothing to see there.

Unable or unwilling?

All the leftists rags are out in full force protecting those who raped kids with Epstein. Weird.

FBI, CIA, DOJ Zero credibility.

Oh sure, no such thing as conspiracies, right?

Right a rich powerful man who could dump some serious dirt on some powerful people dies in federal prison right before he can do just that ...under 24 hr guard...yup nothing weird about that.

Donnie diddler didn’t want the facts to come out

We just lived through three years of cnn and their Russian hoax.

Don't question anything. The media never lies to you, the police are always the good guys and government reports are obviously gospel truth.

Yes, having reasonable doubt is a conspiracy now. Now do three years of Russian conspiracy that keeps getting shovelled around no matter how many times it's been disproved.

There is no official cause of death yet and yet the media claims it to be a suicide..... .... find the error.

So all of a sudden, conspiracies are bad.

We are at the point that the political class is telling us that not believing transparent lies makes you a conspiracy theorist. This makes me suspect the rot goes even deeper than we realize.

Conspiracy theories are just the manifestation of the nation not trusting the government... And rightly so. Barr and Trump are liars. We cannot trust them.

What's the ratio on this b.s.?

Now do your Russian Collusion conspiracies.........

Thank God the fbi is on it. We'll know something for sure soon just like the Vegas shooter ordeal especially with all the possible straight shooters like Comey and McCabe behind it.

Almost everybody predicted his suicide while you were changing the conversation from 'racist' to 'white supremacy.'

'Take the details at face value' the liberal 'news' media's favorite motto... except when it comes to the Mueller Report

If it want a klinton that made the call it was one of the johns.This guy was peddling fresh meat to every billionaire out there. Hell he even had ties to a failed israel PM. Dont think the queens MI6 could not have taken him out? Mossad? Epstien was a big fish.

Conspiracies? You mean like the one where Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election that's been embraced and amplified by every single news outlet in the entire country? Are those the conspiracies you're referring to?

But..Russia ...Russia ...Russia.

Dead literally less than 24 hours after we find out he was recruiting at Mar A Lago ... but yeah, Hillary’s e-mails. Okay.

First media leftists wanted us to believe conspiracy theories about Trump and Russia and hyped these theories for 3 years. Now, you want us to reject conspiracy theories (that are far more credible) about Epstein. When are you going to release you have lost your credibility?

Clinton’s and Freinds - please

Stay in line, Sheeple! Take it all at “face value”. If not, you’re crazy, mentally unfit in fact. Now where’s that Red Flag data base?

Far Left Wing propaganda platform ...

You'll have to forgive us for not believing your lying rag after you've been caught so many times.

We take nothing at 'face value' anymore. Sheep no longer. Makes us much harder to control, doesn't it? 😉

politico are proven liars.

The details are that Trump's hand picked stooge's DOJ failed to prevent a guy who tried to commit suicide from committing suicide and by taking him off suicide watch facilitated his suicide. Accepting those details at face value simply defies logic

What’s worse was the Russian Hoax mainstream media peddled past two and half years.

I don't take anything from you leftists at face value & never will. So, there's that.

The entire idea of the media is to not take things at face value. If people were confident that you would do your job, they wouldn't be questioning this.

Ya and trumps in bed with russia! Ohr302

3 years of Russian hoax?!

'Don't question the narrative, sheep!' -POLITICO

Cigarettes are good for you. Trans fats are harmless. The CIA would never conduct involuntary drug experiments on its own citizens. The FBI would never sell guns to Mexican criminals to track them. Jeffery Epstein could never be murdered for what he knows.

Conspiracy theories into political mainstream? Haha we forgotten that for 2+ years, media and the left pushed a gigantic one on us?

It was because INFLUENTIAL and POWERFUL people had the most to lose had Epstein lived there is such skepticism accepting his 'suicide' No this man was silenced. The camera malfunctioned? The guards didn't check on him when they were suppose to? It's imbecilic to accept this.

Yeah that's what journalism is about. Taking things at face value.... 🙄

Jeffery Epstein’s death has brought Corporate Propagandists out of the woodwork, trying to dismiss any question into this highly suspect circumstance, with shameless “journalists” pontificating to hide the evil doings of deep state global elite pedophiles that employ them.

'Unable to take details at face value', you mean don't do any research themselves? Be sheeple? That's what Stalin expected.

Face value = he was murdered. That's a fact !!!

Your lack of curiosity is astounding if not surprising.

Oh sorry folks, someone's said conspiracy theory. We're now legally obliged to suspend our critical thinking and cease all scrutiny of the powerful.

Powerful people sometimes do bad things. You saying 'conspiracy theory' doesn't change that fact

The only conspiracy was Jeffrey Epstein himself he's the one that chose to to be a pedophile with all those young girls he's the one that made all those moves and manipulated all those people with his money .no conspiracy there just himself 😪

Occam’s Razor says he actually did commit suicide. Making connections and suppositions based on feelings alone is defective thinking at its worst.

Well it's not past reason to question that death.

It is stupid to take anything at face Value with Trump, his administration, and the GOP Lawmakers. The Corruption and crime, scams and cons are endless and possible because Trump will not stop for him to get a win. Until he is removed don't underestimate what he will do.

One of the main reasons I don't believe Epstein's death was a conspiracy is that there are too many reasons to believe it was a conspiracy.

It's not 'Conspiracy theories'. It's called Reasonable Doubt.

Like trump’s DOJ was protecting the Boss

Why don’t I believe someone had Epstein killed? Because if you were going to have him killed, you wouldn’t do it when everyone was paying attention to him. You’d have done it months, or years ago.

You know, when a conspiracy is actually true it isn't just a conspiracy THEORY anymore, it's a fact.

The supposed POTUS realDonaldTrump actually retweeted one of these conspiracy theories today while on VACATION from not PRESIDENTING and accidentally watching billmaher and going on and on about how he’s been working a lot etc ... WhiteHouse fuckingjoke

Next: “Oswald acted alone.”

JeffreyEpstein conspiracy

Are you talking Bill Clinton or George Snuffleupagus?

Hummm...Bill Clinton/Clinton’s&Democrats seem to be in the middle of these mysteries again...then puffff,they’re gone?Let’s connect the dots shall we and let Little Georgie Snuffleupagus break it down since he’s very close to Bill&many trips to Epstein’s island for a little R&R!

Great shot of Bill Clinton doing his Donald Trump impression at a party!

Have we actually seen the details Who took him off suicide watch and why?

Most is true. This guy served the dems well, and they should all go to hell

It's perfectly normal for people to suffocate themselves with a pillow while on suicide watch in a federal prison. Anyone suspicious of that is a kooky conspiracy theorist

Covering for the Clintons are we?

It is very convenient that Epstein died just before ratting out his rich & powerful accomplices. He was on suicide watch after his recent “accident” in jail, but that was taken away just before he died. There are too many people with means and motive for it to be a coincidence

Mmmmmm. Is he really dead. Or hidden to shut up.?

How did Epstein get away with his criminal activities for so long?

It's the details that make it hard to take at face value.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has evidence that will put Bill Clinton and countless other powerful people in prison for life, the duck is a dead duck. ps The duck will die by suicide while on suicide watch in federal custody and the cameras will malfunction.

Aliens... we all know it.

Arkancide

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doing its job to support the “suicide” narrative. Right in schedule.

So his death has fired up the signal.

CONSPIRACY THEORIES HAHA!!! THE CAMERA OF THE CELL BROKE AND HE KILLED HIMSELF AFTER 1 DAY OF 2 PROMINANT DEMOCRATS WERE NAMED IN CASE FILES. THERE ARE FLIGHT LOGS WITH BILL CLINTON ON THEM OVER 26 TIMES!!!! THE ONLY CONSPIRACY THEORY IS YOU MORONS SAYING NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

The rightwing is trying to blame Clinton, Trump had more to lose

I don’t care much about him, he was handler, I care about all involved men who raped these young girls. Who are they? They will look for another Epstein.

Biggest conspiracy is the one to divert attention away from the real conspiracy.

I think we can all admit that there’s a 95% chance that it’s not a conspiracy theory

Well, there's certainly no precedent in this country for a very important suspect winding up on the other side of the grass in the early stages of an investigation. Oh, wait....

'Suicide' being one of the least plausible theories.....

Probably some truth in all of them

He was in a federal prison: my questions: were they short staffed who had the assignment for his section. do they have coverage for meal and bathroom breaks. could Epstien have gotten anything from other prisoners WHO HAS THE CAMERA FEED? -answer this then let’s make theories

What do you mean theories.. It's suicide by murder practically.

Oswald or Ruby might have done it 😂😂😂😂

I’m afraid Trump is going to use these conspiracy theories to change the subject from El Paso and Dayton and particularly how badly he handled it. That’s what he does. He’ll take any tragedy and attempt to use it to his political benefit. He’s a despicable vile creature.

He offed himself because he didn’t want to have to go tattling on all the other kid diddlers everywhere. Over/Under on Chris Tucker?

Whitewater was a conspiracy that was true. Conspiracies are actual things.

And Barr’s dad might even figure in this.

RED HERRING redherring EpsteinMurder

And the president retweeting this even more. TrumpBodyCount TrumpIsARacist

Analysis: Just believe whatever you are told.

Everything will be bad if there's relation with conspiracy theory.

No doubt, why shouldn’t it 🤷‍♂️

TrumpBodyCount

So many dead people associated with Clinton’s.

When do we start seeing his clients being indicted? This isn't over.

how did Hilary get into the cell?

Is it a conspiracy theory OR is it people using their common sense?

If the CCTV failed it’s not a theory, it’s a crime.

Here we go again. It's much easier for Politico to state the obvious (twice in 20 min) than to actually conduct investigative journalism. Or are we just going to continue to help Trump amplify fake news?

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