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Knife crime: Cressida Dick says violent crime rise linked to policing numbers

Richard Cooke, the chairman of the West Midlands Police Federation, wrote in the Daily Telegraph:"How can they ignore what is obvious to most of us - that the violence is out of control partly because there are simply not enough bobbies on the beat?"

Former Met commissioner Lord Hogan-Howe has called for 20,000 officers to be recruited to bring forces in England and Wales back to their 2010 levels, and says ministers have to"get a grip on the crisis".

 

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BStonesPolice When will people realise theresa_may isn't delusional here at all. Wake up. She knows already the problem. But she wont provide money to the police. Hasnt since her days as Home Sec. She wont admit she's wrong ever. So its worse than you think. She knows, she just doesn't care.

It's everyone's fault, but at the end of the day we DO NEED a deterrent.

No shit Sherlock 🕵️‍♀️🤔

And are we going to believe that? Or is it linked to her 'diversity promotion'? Are we sure she's not been promoted beyond her abilities. After all she has already been implicated in one death of an innocent as a 'leader'.

I don’t agree. I doubt anyone wakes up in the morning and thinks ‘oh there’s no police about, I’ll go out and stab someone’. Even if there were 100k extra police, what are the chances of them being in the right place at the right time to prevent one?

DCBMEP Best thing she’s said ! We need more police

Even if you had 1 million more police you would not stop knife crime or any other sort of crime. Police don't prevent crime. They investigate crime. We need greater deterrents to make to committing of crime unpalatable to the minority of society who perform these acts!

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WarmongerHodges I would say increases in crime levels are due to austerity, of which funding for police is just part. Inequality in society is the primal cause. Policing picks up the pieces, a more equal society will go along way to preventing the problem is the first place.

Woman’s a genius! Never mind the Home Office piffle. A career police officer may know the answer

Whilst it has often been said tha 'all coppers are bastards' I would imagine Cressida Dick's closeness to the situation renders her view more accurate than some random woman from Maidenhead.

The Met’s own numbers disagree with her.

Hooray, she speaks, she agrees with what the public and knife crime groups have said for month after month after month. But of course know it all, I am always right Maybot disagrees.She really is despicable.

It may also have something to do with parenting and how iPads are not a good role model for a stable upbringing

paul_smudga Why don't we do a social experiment. Give All police a weekend off. No traffic police either. See what happens.

Cuts in Police date back to when Theresa May was Home Secretary. Very bad judgement, same as now. Should not be PRIME MINISTER. Too mistake prone.

I absolutely agree with this. Take policing off the streets, reducing police funding and numbers and criminals will flourish. So many needless deaths thanks to stupid government decisions

Pay higher taxes and receive better services, it quite simple.

No shit Sherlock

RednorthUK

Perhaps if Theresa cancelled the £10m per month direct debit to the Indian space programme, we could catch more criminals with knives instead with more officers.

I'm sorry, love & stuff, but, That Chief inspector? does look like a, Sally Army in the wrong uniform.

Cressida Dick is right. But the PM and her cronies see knife crime as a way to keep the working class numbers in check, bit like America and guns!

Nothing to do with lack of police. Too much political correctness in pussy footing around certain communities. No youth discipline. Too many single mothers and no fathers to act as role models. That's just a few of the problems out there.

Ah, OPPOSITE to what fibber McGee May told us eh‼️🙄🙄🙄😉 RT

Clare_Jennifer She looks like my nan.

Why is it such a mystery to politicians that immigrants and their offspring are murdering people? If you study the African psyche you will see that the ONLY thing they respect (especially African men) is power. The answer: From 1997, Tony Blair increased immigration tenfold!

From experience, New York City was and remains one of the safest cities in the world. Why? Police presence is a constant in Manhattan and the surrounding boroughs. With less land to cover, why do we not have a constant police presence in our cities ?

É preciso conscientização da sociedade sobre exigir seus direitos.

Really I would never have guessed . Our Pm and government are taking the absolute piss out of the public

Just a poor excuse for her failures

And inequality in society emphasised massively now with social media/internet/24/7 news etc ....the underprivileged are now informed & self educated about the injustices which pervade our society

Mays not going to admit anything she’s the cause of the problem with the police cuts. And as for this officer poor thing needs to hang gloves up now I think she’s had her days 🙈

So TM is not listening to you either then? She really thinks she knows better that the chief of the Met?

Yet again theresa_may proven to be lying again. In literally any other job this would have repercussions yet she just carries on every day with more and more lies.

Why were you reporting Dick “seemed to contradict” the PM? She directly contradicted the PM - there was no “seemed” about it.

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work that out. TheresaMay is deluded and away with the fairies!

ChristineJameis No sht Sherlock, eh Who'da thunk it.🤨

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I think it could be the fact policing is not directed and carried out by those that are the best but rather those that happen to have a particular set of genitals, soon it will be by particular skin colourings too.

rodadams46 And in other news Bears found to shit in the woods

Police spend too much time chasing low level crimes like cannabis users, but have no manpower to chase knive crime, they have got thier priorities all wrong. Sort yourself out, get out of your warm cars and start doing some real police work.

In other news a bear was said to have taken a shit in some woods. Ffs.

It's time 4 the MSM 2 OWN THEIR part in the rise of Knife Crime. Knife Crime isn't new but the nise is not only cos of a shortage of Policing it's also cos the MSM have built it up that kids r carrying knives 2 protect themselves. So instead of punching some1 they're knifing them

There are 117,00 police covering England and Wales, 43,000 police for 9 million in London so that means 74,000 police for approx 50 million people else where. I think someone needs to do their sums, again London have it all. How surprising.

This is the woman who authorised the killing of an innocent Brazilian man! You just can’t trust an ambitious woman

So the increase in knife crime is due to lack of police and nothing to do with the lack of parenting.

Except Theresa May is right and Dick is wrong. There is no direct correlation. However I bet there is a correlation with absence of fathers and other changes to social norms which no one dare talk about.

I don't wanna be negative, so - shit Sherlock..!

Thank you CDICK for rightly confirming what everybody knows except Very nasty Tory TMay who Viscously cut 21000 Police Officers & their Budgets as part of her CUTS & AUSTERITY against UK People. She denies 'no correlation' between the steep rise of Violent crimes & Police Numbers

She should be a detective !!

Looks like she’s living up to her name

Talk all you like, there are no answers and the problem will continue and escalate. Next stop, guns.

How different would a citizen/victim PrioritizationMatrix be compared to Tory priorities that force Executive Police Officers to program budgets and political targets into their algorithm? BigData

No s**t Sherlock

Juliet Bravo has let herself go 😊

The one thing no one has mentioned is that May created this situation when she was the Home Secretary. She didn’t listen then and won’t listen now similar to her current stance on Brexit. More people will die unless she steps in and provides more officers!

Using the pain and suffering of the dead and injured to further your political aims is about as vile as you can get - typical of those in authority where human life is just a weapon to feed their own ambitions.

BBCPolitics I think the relevant rise in knife crime and fall in policies have numbers data show there is no correlation to the statement she made.I don't know but through in money at it will not solve it .It is a complex issue why this has happened and needs addressed at all levels

BBCPolitics We can't out police in every corner of the street community policing us the answer being resident in a particular area the local bobby gets to know the scroats and the scroats know he's watching them.The reduction in community policing gives people no sense of being looked after

Going to prison is glamorised so isn’t a deterrent anymore

No 💩 Sherlock

Crime is linked to police numbers regardless of the offence

Such an unfortunate name. Cruel parents 😂

She was trying SO hard not to criticise May but blurted it out in the end!

ClodaghSnarks You'd have to be an meandering idiot to think it wasn't. So, that'll be Theresa May then.

She’ll be for the chop, then.

Who in their right mind would believe pathological liar May over Britain’s leading police officer

Could she please explain this in very simple terms to Theresa May 😣

She was obviously a detective

Theresa May says it’s got nothing to do with it.

Knife crime up, gun crime down. Murder up but attempted murders down. Contrary to public belief, there is little evidence to suggest more police would reduce crime. The problem is people are scared and have no confidence in the authorities.

FleurSexton God help us all! Where Do they dredge these insipid wretches from! Where are the leaders of yesteryear...

No it’s not it’s the fault of....

I’m calling bullshit on this one. Police should be given the powers of reasonable stop and search, with minimum mandatory prison sentences of at least 2 years for possession of a weapon. Carriage infers intent to harm. It would soon stop as the message spread

PM is partially right. Numbers have nought to do with this epidemic. These are supposed to be individuals that are top of their profession, probably been to university, so studied at a higher level than I. Their resoning is lacking, or just dishonest?

Shambles151 Has she been on the phone to May who appears delusional on the subject of Knife crime.

She’s part of the problem. Silly liberal scared of offending ‘the community ‘

Is that the most sensible thing she has ever said ? Simple maths Less police + increased population (many illegal immigrants ) = more crime.

The UK Should Be Grateful to Ms Cressida Dick For The FACT Check! Again, Theresa May's Credibility Is Called Into Question on a Matter Incredibly Serious!

She’s not wrong. I am always impressed at her honest and yet measured attempts to be clear and calm about the social circumstances facing us in London.

so it's ok to carry knife gun fly where you like unless you are on the abuse list

it's ok for BMFA members to demand to fly over private events where they abuse people but others cannot fly where they like ie Gatewick Airport but ok for the BMFA to

She is an expert who does she know - fake news etc etc

it's ok for a gunman to attack a family in their own home and what ever you do don't protect them from the abusers

it's ok to take money from BMFA clubs and members for your own gain and abuse people for standing up to fraud

Trying to save her job. There are more security officers than there ever was.

Ooooh! How in-sightful - this is why she is Met chief.

it is ok to shoot guns next to kids playing

No shit Sherlock!

If that’s not the reason then why bother having police at all? We can just blame bad parenting and go on a Daily Mail rant.

Treating the symptom, not the cause will get you nowhere. You’ll just always need more coppers.

One told the truth one lied my thoughts are the PM possibly lied.

Duh...duh.............duh....................duh.........duh....................duh.........duh.....

The police are the only barrier between us, to stop us from getting to the politicians.. So if they keep being treated poorly, they may just step aside one day soon. And I genuinely hope that happens 👍

grezza2120 That’s what I like to see. Our PM with her finger on the pulse of serious issues.

BUT WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF POLICE CORRUPTION? It's CONTEMPT for bog standard Britons. There is no point of redress. In Newbury Berks, TVP_WestBerks policing is ARROGANTLY CORRUPT right up to Police and Crime Commissioner Stansfeld TV_PCC and TVP_Chief LiarFlyer PC7677

educationpriest There are more to knife crimes than just police funding and numbers.

If they lacked money, they would not waste it policing Twitter, would they?

NO SHIT SHERLOCK

No shit sherlock

Resign

I agree more money should be spent on Policing, BUT on REAL policing, NOT officers sitting in cars behind cameras, NOT dressing up in High heels and NOT in front of computers monitoring nasty words, I want POLICE Offtheirseatsandontheirbeats Walktalkandbaulk STOP&SEARCH

Think it's down to the scum who commit the crimes and their brainless parents. Put a Copper on every street and the criminals move elsewhere. Looks like she is defending the barbaric braindeads

But professional liar theresa_may said there's no link?

She didn’t get the email from No10. Bloody IT systems. knifecrime policenumbers cressidadick

OK, we could flood the streets with fuzz if only it were possible, but it ain't. Much more difficult is affecting a change in the social attitude. Stuck with the stroppies, we are.

Looks like junecarter to me

Rubbish!!!!!!!Get out and do your job

Think her mag should put her hand in her pocket , it is her service

If she hasn't already, she should send a recorded delivery letter, to the prime minister of the United Kingdom Theresa May 🤔😔.

You don't need to be a police commissioner to work that out! As i have said many times. 10 year min sentence for carrying a Knife And Stopandsearch Anyone, anywhere, anytime! And stop the political correctness bs, treating these ppl like kids.

Another example of government officials, Theresa May this time, being remote from the reality of what’s happening. I would take the view of Cressida Dick over that of a politician who has clearly lost the plot on all fronts.

If we have people that can only be kept inline when Police are around those persons have no place in society.

But it seems Mrs May knows better Or not

Anna_Soubry theresa_may said “there is no direct correlation between certain crimes & police numbers” What crimes did she have in mind? Mat shaking in met pol districts, car horn misuse, handling salmon in suspicious circumstances? Knife crime is the part of the cost of cutting police nos.

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theresa_may thoughts?

Sentencing for knives should be the same as a gun!!

Anna_Soubry What does she know? Blame David Lammy and Sadiq Khan for stopping stop and search. They’re bringing it back now of course, and it’s working. Doh.

She is totally correct, this ponce of a government are destroying the fabric of this country. If you cut police numbers then how the hell can they be everywhere at the same time. May is useless, the torys are useless.

I think there is a clear correlation between a rise in crime and having a PC individual in charge of police.

Simples. Book my table at the Ritz for tea theresa_may. knife crime

Who is lying Dick or May?

She’s as sharp as a knife that one.

In other news...

Crime is up because no one can protect themselves.

Violent crime rise let need to rising immigration !!

What does she know Shes only a police officer with yrs of experience,has hundreds of police officers in her care with up to the minute details of what is happening in her patch and 1st hand details frm her officers but I believe the PM cos she knows more obvs 😒😒😠😠😠😠

shirleyyoung2 And yet Mrs May says otherwise. I know who I believe.

Less police trying to catch people on there way home from work doing 35mph in a 30mph zone. Put more on the streets. But there is no profit in catching people with knives. Is there 🖕🏻

No shit

Doe's that mean the Prime Minister is telling Porky's again. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Does she have an O level in stating the bleeding obvious ?

1) More police officers (they're run ragged as things stand) 2) Pay them appropriately. 3) Government to treat officers with dignity and respect, (something May has never done)

Of course there is and pleased Cressida said it. I compare to when I was young around Nov 5th when a group of lads would buy a box of bangers. You were worried a policeman might appear round the corner. More police on streets means less crime and hopefully less stabbing 🙏

Police cuts

Knife crime rise in society is due to bad parenting! Hold parents accountable for their kids crime & knife & other anti social crime will stop. Also less police on the street & fewer arrests doesn’t help bring these young criminals to justice.

All good and well, but not the hardest correlation to draw... Maybe Cressida would like to have some extra police teams double tapping random people in the cerebellum ‘...to put the fear back into the criminal.’? Stop Brexit, then get a new PM and Met Police commissioner...

Absolutely.

Don't play politics when you are public servants. Knife crimes are caused by very bad parents and schools, not police cuts.

No shit 😂

This is a complex problem. The Police pick up the pieces after the damage is done. Where are the role models idriselba, what gives us respect for authority, why do these boys not see what the future could be if they follow a better path? +ve example & inspiration needed from all

CRESSIDA DICK iscorrect, unlike the PM & ex Home Sec Theresa May who is in denial. More Police Officers mean more policing. ! Obvious

Well I never who would have guessed that a police presence would deter crime.....maybe also stop wasting officers searching twitter & Facebook & get them on the streets.

Cressida seems to have forgotten that the country’s had enough of experts. She can’t possibly know better than the PM🙄

Cressida Dick? If she taking the pss? 😂

Anna_Soubry Of course it is, any idiot can see that - but not the PM it appears?

Actually its linked to bad behaviour nothing at all to do with money or police numbers. A rise in police numbers would increase stop and search and reduce the carrying of some weapons. But then all the leftie whingers would start moaning about to many people being stop searched

Maybe if metpoliceuk stopped being political puppets and conducting recruitment schemes that are discriminatory and not based on merit or capability then they’d see better recruits come through who won’t quit after 18 months... Divert funds from cyber to recruitment🤔

Of COURSE IT IS, TO A HUGE EXTENT. NOW PLEASE, have a quiet word with MAY, who STILL BELIEVES the opposite is the case ....

Not your fault then...

Good to see June off the bill still on the streets😂

She’s working at the coal face ... Politicians need to listen and respond.

Anna_Soubry She wants more police to be able to do this instead of fighting crime no doubt.

Still enough police to ferry the bloody politicians about though 😏

What are the stats on the ethnicity of the people carrying out the knife crime throughout the country ? Any guesses ?

Surely not;theresa_may said: “There’s no direct correlation between certain crimes & police numbers.” So no correlation between crimes & police numbers means that there is no connection or interdependence between them. In other words they have nothing to do with each other 🤔

Hahahaha, leaving Maybot twisting in the wind.

Patriot one have the tech to stop this 'Radar technology that secretly spots suspects carrying concealed weapons could help solve Britain's knife crime epidemic This new technology is invisible and non-discriminatory

DCBMEP Really ! Never have guessed

She is clever.

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Met Police chief proves link between government budget cuts and violent knife crime by sticking one in Theresa May's back 😂

BBCPolitics She is a lovely human being. As is the London Mayor. But have they got the necessary heft ?

Correlated or causal? Partly or wholly. Gov cuts include schools, youth services & other social changes correlate, eg social media. But can theresa_may logically say there is no causal link? She might as well say knife crime inot a police matter at all

Given the opinion of a career police professional or that of an ever more desperate theresa_may it’s clear that Only Cressida Dick offers a clear and credible opinion.

Really do Hope theresa_may Will Listen To the Professionals Whose Job It Is To Know! Ms Cressida Dick NEEDS &B DESERVES the FULL Support of the Cabinet & That Means Getting What She Wants and When She Wants It! Govt NEEDS To Do Its Duty To Protect & Serve! bbclaurak Peston

BBCPolitics Has May issued a personal withdrawal of her dumb comments? No fiiiiiing chance. She says what ever she wants and walks on.

Of course she does, she has an agenda... why doesn't she do something about knife crime like reintroduction of stop and search.

It is not just police numbers. It is what happens to them once caught. If 'lucky' and they are caught and sentenced, a few weeks in a holiday camp prison with sky tv and hot meals 3 times a day is not a punishment ! Real justice needs to fit the crime.

Even Dick gets it but Teresa doesn't. What's wrong with her?

Too simplistic.

At last someone who tells us what we already know,just get bobbys back on the beat,longer sentencing and build more prisons.

It seems that only theresa_may cannot spot the bleedin’ obvious. Have we ever had a more obstinate, stupid, incompetent Prime Minister?

No, it's not... It's because there is no punishment of guilty, thereby no deterrent

Well of course it is.

Why?. We can have a million police but if we don't give them power to arrest the culprits it's a waste of time and money. Presently the police cannot stop and search for fear of upsetting or black brothers. I get search every time I attend a football match. I am 60 years old.

Anna_Soubry Did you here that Theresa ?

Takes an expert to figure that out?

And rich drug users. Idea for you, why not target them rather than the pushers. We don't hear much about users being arrested. cressidadick

PM begs to differ

Cressida Dick was said to have gotten her job from Theresa May.DICK should walk streets without her bodyguards to see the problem, then go give TM a good ear bashing. But nothing will change,PM and her favourite MPs are getting rich sat on their lavish thrones surrounded by cops.

Wrong! Police just make it worse. The solution is at home and poverty and single mothers not the police

She is not and never has been FIT FOR PURPOSE!

Anna_Soubry Kinda awkward for the PM then...

Not sure how this graph links to police funding but maybe a big factor is that we hear about everything immediately these days ? 140 deaths in 1977 to 280 now. Each one a tragedy, of course, but not sure how many people think there are? There were 102 cyclists killed last year.

Repatriate the savages and their entire families

OF COURSE IT IS,IF YOU LEAVE YOUR FRONT DOOR OPEN YOUR GONNA GET ROBBED

Anna_Soubry The Left cause these problems by saying open borders are fantastic and all cultures are equal. Then when carnage inevitably ensues - as a 5 year old could predict - they blame the other side for not cleaning up the mess they have created.

Like we didn't know.

It's not just policing the Tories have torn to shreds with their cuts. It's the whole criminal justice system; the CPS, prison staffing, our local courts have closed in droves due to lack of funding. It started with Cameron and May's continued the shameful legacy.

Hope Mrs May is listening, her case is weakened by at the same time as wanting more Police they are also asking to spend more money looking for Madeline McCann, surely that money would be better spent on protecting law abiding citizens in the UK

Can someone please remember Sunderland has recently had knife crime. Connor Brown was 18 when he was stabbed to death. The Northeast has problems too.

I’m no genius but, stop and search decreasing, knife crime increasing

They took my tiny knife (1.5 cm blade) at the airport and were so nice that they did not call the police to check my criminal records, so the world is safe (strong irony). Really I wish, the police was dealing more with the bad guys and worry less if it makes them stressed...

Nah.....everyone knows it's because of BREXIT. Surprised the BBC didn't say so.

Quite right, if you cut the police force, close down police stations. You are going to get more knife crimes. The criminals know they can away with murder, no one to stop them. Life is more important than money. The heartless Tories don't care about the general public.

No shit Sherlock!

We are importing cultures where lives are worthless and crime is seen as a way of life. Instead of enforcing our laws and stopping these cultures spreading we allow them to grow and at times protect them by hiding behind the racist and politically correctness banner!

DCBMEP Really? 🤨🤦🏻‍♂️

Is that why more fire's start because the cuts in the fire service

If, as we see so often, police are ignoring less serious crime because of a lack of resources, it's giving the message more serious crime is therefore OK!

Is she sure it’s not due to Brexit?

Dick confirms knife crime is linked to policing numbers, so confirms the PM is incorrect to say they aren't linked.

No knife crimes,call it love in the air. No will be forced to participate without her will.

Stop policing social media and get off your backsides.

It’s also linked to European criminals coming to Britain for easy pickings. EU and FoM. Brexit and deport the lot.

Spetmologer About time she came of the fence and supported her officers 👮‍♀️

BBCPolitics Interesting figures on actual police numbers.

BBCWorld How many officers has she dealing with 'hate crime' & how many dedicated to knife crime?

Anna_Soubry Probably going to believe her take on this, as opposed to May's.

She should know, but the police need politicians to make laws to stop this. The safety of people on our streets is paramount and above the apologists wailing and wanting to excuse knife crime. Their excuses don't explain why some groups of kids don't have knives yet others do.

BBCPolitics t’s not the fall in police numbers that caused knife crime to rise. It was the number of checks on folks carrying knives and when found being convicted. If you have 100,000 police and none to checks , it’s the same as having 59,000 not doing checks

So the cops are going to police the parks eh? I'm not saying we don't need more boots on the ground, we do. However, these disengaged single brain cell kids know when they're being watched. Time to target the care-less parents of the feral brigade

No, TreesareMay said definitely wasn't and she'd never tell a lie, So must be down to climate change.

How the murderess Cressida Dick is not behind bars,let alone is now the top cop in the UK is a disgrace. Certainly dont fell safe with her in charge.

And she’s should know way better than the PM ..

Doesn’t help when we have a London mayor without a clue, or just doesn’t care enough!

With a name like that she would have trouble going transgender wouldnt she

Are they all watching the following there. It’s a pretty screwed up world.

mattforde What happens when you have a lollipop lady in charge.

It’s not rocket science, if you’ve got less coppers out and about then the idiots have more of a licence to run a muck.

Wow, Dicks' a genius, we never knew'd tgat

Everyone else knows that except May, it’s very sad

TeresaWeath Of course there is a link even the most dim person can work that one out. Really! Why is Mrs May still in post?

Cressida Dick is an utter imbecile and not up to running metpoliceuk - the statistics under her watch are testament to her failure ! If ever a person was elevated beyond their ability, purely on gender, this is it !

Drug dealers in my area have been in some cases been dealing openly on the street on & off for years. Everyone knows who they are but they get away with it. They are mostly African & some marry gullible Brits.

It’s nothing to do with kids carrying knives & stabbing each other then? Maybe stop blaming everyone other than the scum that are doing it

Not enough cops you say? Plenty of cops just not the ones we need. Too many snowflakes who are too frightened to deal tackle criminals. You could have a million cops like the ones in this story what use would it be?

Anna_Soubry Humphy Theresa won’t like that

Ooo getting political!

No Shit Sherlock 🤔

If she had not been recruited. Jean Charles De Menezes would never have been murdered.

10,000 officers not allowed to stop and search would be no better than 1,000 who are not allowed to stop and search.

Anna_Soubry Yet more proof that theresa_may is clueless regarding what's going on on the streets🙄

Anna_Soubry Good to see Norman wisdom out and about

Ask yourself: When did someone last carry a knife in your neighbourhood? When did you last see police officers on foot in your neighbourhood? Let's not overthink this issue.

lgscotland And in Scotland, it's gone down. Why is that

Anna_Soubry By-election now so you can’t help keep the Tory’s in

1. State the obvious= TOO MUCH BLOODY Political Correctness imposed by Chiefs of Police,. Liberal Do Gooders and MP's on those at the forefront of Policing. If the Knife crime is predominantly caused by Black Youths then TARGET THEM without fear of being accused of Racism.

Not cultural then? Righto

police are moaning because they are hsving to work not tossing it off like they use to

Obviously. The Tories are in denial because they need to defend their cuts even at the cost of innocent lives.

And she should know. Home Secretary?

No. It's just rotten kids. Simple as.

BBCPolitics Wrong analysis! Increasing number of police officers in our streets will not go to prevent youth from stabbing each other. The culture of the gang, drugs, education will prevent!

No they're not, Teresa May said so... 🤔

Not immigration no no nooooo......

But not according to our esteemed leader theresa_may

No shit Sherlock

NEWS: Violent crime is related to violent criminals, nothing more nothing less.

DCBMEP Just an excuse!! How many police would you need in London to stop knife crime? Would greater numbers have prevented those killings throughout 2018? I doubt it!

900 hurty word police in London...? Please let us know your priorities and your % of resource dedicated to them....

FINALLY! Somebody is talking sense...

But surely TheresaMay (bastion of the truth & defender of the police) is right & CressidaDick is wrong. MayMustGo ToryLies PoliticsIsDead BrokenBritain BrexitShambles BrexitBribe FailingGrayling

Tale the handcuffs off the police.. let them do their job without the risk of being prosecuted for chasing a suspect, and injuring them...

No they're not, Teresa May sid so... 🤔

Lenient sentencing by the courts is an issue..

A lot has to do with the CPS, the police catch criminals, do all the detective work to bring a prosecution, then the CPS say three no evidence...

BBCPolitics Come on love .... sort it out .... its gettin a bit stabby round here 👍

C. Dick😉...sorry.

theresa_may disagrees, funny that.

mattforde Really? You think? What an interesting insight... What a stupid comment, so infuriating MPs with throw away “people pleasing” comments 😡

Is our society one that starts murdering each other in large numbers in the absence of a high police presence

Are we seriously suggesting that there are people who think, there are less police about so let's go and stab someone. This is a much deeper issue and if people are determined to commit crime they will do it no matter how many police are on the streets.

Prioritisation would seem to also be a connected issue: can anyone tell me what a police officer looks like these days - I can’t remember! 😏

mattforde No shit Sherlock

BBCPolitics Well that is a great surprise isn’t it !

She won't get a gong if she carries on recklessly telling the truth.

More likely to be you weak stance on possession of a knife. How many offenders are actually arrested and charged and go to jail for the maximum term? No deterrent.

This is the best the met has to offer? Get rid of 900 hate crime coppers and out them on the beat

Bother with the yobs? Look to the parents.

DCBMEP Bullshit. 10,000 or 20,000 officers will make little difference unless they are back on the beat. 20,000 officers UK wide is just a drop in the ocean. Unless they are all deployed in London, there will be no noticeable difference and even then only in London.

and if they want the public on side they need to police all not favour some

I believe her more than may.

Is she say that the prime minister is lying?

DCBMEP Geez the quality of people running our government and major services makes you weep !

And policing changing it's focus to diversity and speech policing rather than crime

she so criminal ones ... a long time ago ... in person ... with all this surveillance and microchipped population you cann't give anyone decent bitin' anymore, while asking wa' am I lesbian ...?!

BBCPolitics Stop and search was effective until the loony left said it was wrong and ethnicity biased so it had to stop the police had said it was intelligence led targeting known groups but no it has to stop this is what your pc world brings

DCBMEP Use the Army

Good for you Cressida, theresa_may is being a typical politician, economical with the truth !!

Explain your obsevations to TM. 😀👍

I recall being a kid in the 79s/80s. Never saw a policeman cos we didn’t go around causing mayhem never mind stabbing people. Blame the lack of stop and search, lack of parenting and more people coming in to the uk who use knives as second nature thinking it’s perfectly accept/e.

Yeah totally agree

A bloody good smack and upbringing is the answer. Kids get away with everything now a days.

BBCPolitics

The problem starts at home. Our dismissal of the family unit has led to a complete breakdown of discipline and respect amongst children. We are now reaping what we showed and it’s spiralling out of control.

this is proof police is just a waste of tax payers money.the government and media should now champion psychiatrists

The most useless chief constable in Britain nothing but excuses at every turn ...a politician, s dream her in that position has any of them got the guts to bring back capital punishment for premeditated crime were there isn't any element of doubt

BBCPolitics Only says what mays told her to say.

Utter rubbish it’s kids carrying knives and not respecting each other and communities being accepting its now the norm

It does start within the family, definitely, but if there is nothing to stop the crime out on the streets then there is no deterrent. Theresa May must be the only person in the country who doesn’t see that police cuts have an effect on crime overall with increases overall.

BBCPolitics Is she sure because the Prime Says it's not? Who to believe, who to believe...?

Theresa May is saying the opposite. One of them is telling porkies.

BBCPolitics Not exactly, she qualified this..... You are not reporting accurately!

The correct answer Sky, is that it is a multi-variant analysis. Trying to pin it on one part of the problem, or the Govt just doesn't cut it.

BBCPolitics Agreed. Try allocating the number they have from ‘the i’m offended task forces’ monitoring social media and put them on the streets...

P45 ? Mustn't contradict Mother Theresa, she's always right.

That’s obvious !

Thankyou, about time someone told the truth.

And bring back stop and search ...

This woman is not the face of British Policing and needs to step aside.

take a look at whos doing knife crime in london

Yes we do need more police, but for all crimes. Penalties for just carrying a knife should be tougher straight away, why would you carry a knife if you didn't intend to use it. Bring back stop and search for all suspects, stop tying police hands. Support the police.

No one mentions the Elephant in the room and that is the UK has become to crowded for comfort & of course we need thousands more police to tackle it.

The police are not responsible for violent crimes . It’s the individuals. Proper sentences required

It what happens when you cut policing numbers..

BBCPolitics Duh

In london you have something like 36,000 coppers...and a budget of over 3 billion pounds...

No shit Sherlock!!

But she also blames middle class cocaine users!

BBCPolitics claws

theresa_may called out as a liar ....again 😐

If only we could fine some overwhelming like between knife crime and the perpetrators of the crime 🤔. If only it were in the data somewhere? Then we could focus on the “type” of people involved.

Maybe they should spend more time policing the streets and less time policing naughty words on Twitter?

And a weak commissioner

At least the national debt has been doubled since 2010 so well worth it

Who do we believe, errrrrm the chief of police who is having to deal with it, or the woman who made the cuts, not because we didn’t need those 21000 police but because of the now disgraced austerity plan.

This topic needs proper analysis by mathematical statisticians, not political waffle. e.g. Your chart shows knife crime falling from 2011 to 2014. The number of police officers also fell over the same period. Therefore reducing police reduces knife crime

Well not rocket science that one.. What did you expect.. Less police come on 5 year old can work that one out... Lives mean nothing anymore..maybe if Mp's didn't take their pay rise and paid for more police

Yes but also lack of discipline, morality and respect .

Yep and it’s down to Theresa May a fact the media let her get away with on a daily basis

lottyleeming Excuses, Excuses...it'll be down to BRexit next...

Golly! Who would have guessed?

And migration

Really? I’m shocked

Ya’ll gotta stop scapegoating broken families and have to start looking at root of the problem which lays within the government and the people in position in power. Truth is, as long as the rich get paid, they don’t give a toss about the young. Absolute dossers.

Of course it is.

Well why didn't make this apparent early. Before more deaths. Where you just goimg to keep it quiet

No shit Sherlock 🕵️‍♀️

Police numbers may indeed be one of many factors but is it not also about what the police we do have are actually prioritising. I would rather see existing officers working to deal with knife crime than spending time looking for folk that have said boo to someone on Twitter.

Just shows how disconnected politicians are/want to be!

Tory cuts, 20,000 Army, 5,000 Navy, 5,000 RAF, 2,000 Royal Marines, 60,000 NHS, 21,000 Police,10,000 Prison Officers, 7,000 PCSO, 730,000 Public Sector, 12,000 Firemen

This is only one reason. I can't say a heavy police presence in my childhood was the reason for me not robbing, stabbing, dealing drugs and killing people. Greater reasons would be families' lack of interest in their offspring. Also, lack of common decency and values.

Partly true but it isn't the main reason, thats only a small part of the problem.

There is no answer at the moment. We are an aggressive breed with little or no self control. It is time to ask our friends from north of the border to give us some pointers.

Over 20k less officers, of course it is!. I think she's doing all she can, but she's fighting a losing battle. Criminals know police are non existent, so act accordingly.

She would.

It makes it easier for criminals but isn't the cause !

Just start stop and searching blacks because let’s face it , blacks are doing it mostly and blacks are selling drugs , if they pull say it’s racist then tough shit. Stop stabbing ppl. Everyone knows 90% of it is blacks

May cocks it up again.

It's one of those no shit batman moments 🙄

While a significant factor it is not the only factor. Lack of proper role models at home and wider society are another. Boredom is yet another factor

Cressida Dick.........now that’s who I’d want protecting me from a knife welding gang 😱😂😂😂

Anyone with basic common sense knows she's right ! Politicians just quote how much money had been spent and use statistics to allow them turn a blind eye to what's happening in the the real world, which they avoid visiting if they can! Wake up before it's to late!!!!!!

Think she's more credible than anyone else who makes a statement about the police ..

Or open borders

That’s just repeating the mantra !!

Don't talk nonsense when that unicorn money tree Theresa May says it isn't

But Theresa May said it wasn't linked... now who to believe? 🤔

Time for a re-think.

Idiocy and Theresa May linked

It's caused because they stopped racial profiling and stop and search. Simple.

Its linked to the failure of Prohibition take away their drugs Industry and have it decriminalised and tax it. 48 years and its getting worse.

Its mostly men - extend education to better problem/conflict solving ways. Teach compromise, tolerance - especially for boys. Also consider to educate the parents better - social competency is mostly learned from parents and peer groups.

No is going soft on carrying knives and and accepting PC pressure on 'Stop and search'

Bring back the spg and watch crime fall keep politics out of policing

It may well be but that’s an easy answer. Let’s not ignore the fact of shit lazy parenting. That’s a massive factor in crime. Not all, but a lot. No morals, respect, civility or empathy in today’s youth, all that starts at home.

your criminologist is wrong & Cressida Dick’s right. The risk of being caught affects behaviour. If there’s little risk, people start carrying weapons & as that happens other do the same to protect themselves from the ones doing it. We stopped doing what worked.

Anyone with any common sense or sense of honour would find it hard to disagree theresa_may

Social problems poverty urban frustrations

Obvious to anyone accept the incompetent racist ex-Home Secretary now incompetent Prime Minister, living in denial on so many fronts.

Police Scotland sorted their knife crime problems ask them for advice say your asking for a friend 👍🏻

😂😂😂😂 I'd have changed that Surname years ago.....

Not interested in dealing with the causes of knife crime just interested in how she can use a situation to get more stuff for her job. selfInterest

No really news, CressidaDick is not an imposing figure, does not inspire confidence and is protecting her own back .

Really who told you that. Fucking hell. Family's victim of the knife crime should sue the Government for allowing police numbers to cut and you have the head of police saying it's a fact that the lack of police is the result rocketing knife crime in city's

The people have had enough it's clearly pure frustration mostly youths cause they have no respect for the elders now look at the services throwing bottles etc. Parental restrictions have made us look weak cause we cannot 'give them a clip round the ear ' now no respect for anyone

Since when have the police been able to stop crime ! They offer capture and retribution when a crimes been committed,the liberal law maker's need a deterrent but their ideology doesn't permit them to introduce one that works.

Albania/Powerful protest against Edi Rama's socialist government. Citizens accuse the socialist government of using organized crime groups and drug trafficking finances to buy votes in political elections.

No one is saying the obvious. Blair's opendoor immigration policy 10 yrs ago is THE reason. There are less police but not less in total- the resources r used for anti terror & more often at the request of a certain community-hate crime!It's to do with the changing face of Britain

Tories are doomed. Denying this will be a final straw.

blaming middle class recreational drug users. i can see that to a point. but in the 90s when the rave scene was huge. what were the knife crime states then. isnt it gangs now? im not from the UK. so forgive if i am wrong

Like Iv said before by reducing 20.000 police officers ur ultimately giving the criminals freedom too commit more crimes and they know it .

her name the dick lol 😂😂😂😂😄😄😄😄😄😂

When you have a Force led by a PC chief whose boss is a human rights lawyer, who felt that stop and search was racist, with courts that allow thugs with numerous strikes for carrying knives to be let off , then the problem isn't a lack of nbrs.

It's to do with a city load of people coming into this country every single year from places like Africa and the Middle East- gang/tribal /violent cultures and often come not to work but take benefits...

That's her for 'the bill'

Over the years there's always been periods when knife crime has spiked, but they don't appear to be getting a grip on current attacks particularly in London! Got to be related to cuts in police & other services!

Yes. We know. I live in Walthamstow, east London. Where a lot of the crime is happening. I am genuinely struggling to remember the last time I saw a police officer walking down the road. Police presence is a deterrent. We need more on our streets. It will save lives.

Genius

Couldn't be the lack of a father figure and the destruction of the nuclear family unit then.....

It is our duty as a nation to fund and support our Police, they deserve it more now than ever! theresa_may sadly is very out of touch with reality - or has she ever been in touch? Conservatives UKLabour HouseofCommons

Import the 3rd world and become the 3rd world.

A Dick indeed.

Of course it is, when else would we be told that the army is ever ready to bolster the numbers

Completely disagree

She’s a real Sherlock her!

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