By Edward Carr: Deputy editor, The Economistsay when Russia’s invasion of Ukraine will end—or how. But months of fighting have stamped five sets of tracks into the Ukrainian earth and, one day, these will converge on peace. Even allowing for the fortunes of war, the best gauge of the future is to trace their paths.
By contrast, Ukraine is well placed to muster committed troops and tactically shrewd officers, supplied with arms and intelligence bycountries. Perhaps, after wearing down Russian defensive positions in the south and in the Donbas region, Ukrainian forces will repeat the lightning-fast seizure of occupied territory in the east and south that they managed in September and October. But even if they cannot, they should be able to continue their slow advance.
These threats have backfired, by persuading Western governments that humouring Mr Putin would be dangerous. Giving in to the Kremlin today, as in 2014 when Russia first attacked Ukraine, would only set the stage for the next conflict. Western arms will therefore continue to flow eastward and Russian gas will never again flow westward in large amounts. This winter will be hard—and the next could be even worse, especially if Chinese demand for energy revives, pushing up the price of oil and gas.
Why should Ukraine 'lay down its arms' until the the Russian INVADERS have left THEIR COUNTRY
The Ukraine is ready as soon as Russia is off their land!🤔😏🤘
So you’re saying it’s a both sides issue? 🤨
new_skatina и тут же ржут над..
People aren’t ready
It is the USProxyWar, of choice, that decides when and how.
TE always telling us black and white in the same sentence. Does it mock us?
До останнього українця, так, казав Зе. Так що Україна прощається зі світом 🥱
Help Ukraine to defeat the Russian war criminal today!
How about their legs?
Это не совсем так.
I’m old enough to remember when Russia tried peace talks twice & the kunt Zelenskyy refused
you mean the push it gets from the U.S. $$$$$$$$$$
Ukrainians are ready to lay down their arms and resume life as soon as Russia stops attacking and illegally invading their country.
and we pay
Russia is the aggressor.
WEF war have lost already .
Then again.. Ukraine cannot die from cancer.
Desperate extremists won't give up, especially when it comes to once being the world's richest and most powerful man. No escape rabbit hole is available for the bloody Mr. pootin anymore. Just like hitler with Germany, he will try to drag whole Russia along with him to oblivion.
SteveBakerHW Oh dear, what happened to The Economist? They should read the room and stop the gaslighting.
👉 GloryToUkraine 🇺🇦
Compensation of the damage Putin caused to Ukraine's & her allies' infrastructure, public & private properties - should be sought from all Russian current & future frozen assets Giving example to China, etc how world nations deal with megagloblic invaders.
With the aim of preventing Ukraine from becoming a prosperous and peaceful European democracy.-----How the heck have The Economist stooped to this level.🤔
European democracy : violence, precarity, joblessness, greenwashing, polarisation, strikes, inequality, overconsumption, unhappiness, energy explosion.... Stop this western propaganda.
America is failing for the sake of another Rumsfeld lie that put us in war, all so war profiteers can control the world. Disgusting. UN_Women hrw
WE MUST DEFEAT THAT russian SCUM!
SteveBakerHW What democracy they haven’t had one since 2014 when they overthrew a democratically elected leader
becoming a prosperous and peaceful European democracy lol. joke of the year 🤣
As long as we send at least another 40 billion. Every Ukrainian should have a missile system at the absolute minimum.
Hands up for UA🇺🇦 sukuthis
Ukraine in NATO is the only way to peace in Europe
Democracy.... 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Short memory syndrome.
Ukraine - democracy!!! Never was and newer will bee.
You are trying way too hard The Economist !
Yes,Vladimir Putin is ready to fight in 2023 & won't freeze the conflict as you speculate because,that isn't Russia's conflict,it was imposed by the West.Also,it isn't about preventing Ukraine from what you're saying,it's about Russia's and Europe's security.
Putin will try for a cease fire. Rebuild his force and try again.
Prosperous and peaceful European Democracy? OMFG 😹🤮🤮🤮🤮🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤮🤮🤮🤡🤡🤡
Prospera y pacífica Desde el 2014 bombardeando el dombas....son unos Nazis y hay que acabar con ellos Viva Rusia
Ukraine was a democracy until 2014, when the US overthrew the democratically elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, and installed a fascist.
I’ve never understand why Russia is scared shitless of a 5’4” assbaby- give me the phone!
The West needs to grow a pair, with continued support for Ukraine to send an example that such aggression is never tolerated
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There is still three days of 2022.
Putin is losing. Keep supplying Ukraine and let him fight on.
Tell us something we don't know
What is NATO doing?
Peace is at the end of all Wars, from million years ago till forever
Never forget that a country of Ukraine was created in 1991 mostly out of Russian lands.
Lol this Nazi-supporting fluff piece is gonna age poorly.
Exactly, cheating lying stealing and murder is not a good leader, Russia will see that putin is a thug of a million definitions about evil and bring down Russia hard ,sad for the good people
🔰 Why Russia's economy is more resilient than you might think - Atlantic Council, Jun 2022 🔰 Why the Russian economy keeps beating expectations - The Economist, Aug 2022 🔰 How the Russian economy is defying and withstanding western sanctions - The Conversation, Nov 2022
You wish
You guys are relentlessly still defending your warlords US propaganda 😁 Seriously, I thought you would have better and actual support for Ukraine but holy cow you are really bad and don’t care about anyone 🤧 Tell the truth before the offensive RU starts ⏲ you don’t have time!
Unwinnable war? Hard to say, we have not seen yet the impacts of their tactics to shut Ukraine´s power system down.
The US speaks
And the West, will support Ukraine this time or will do as in 2008?
The Russian trolls are out...
This article is all about what Anglo Saxons wish. Reality has nothing to do with this. Put in anyway you want, this war could’ve been avoided by not guarding the 🇺🇦 with fake promises. Ukraine is a failed state…its as simple as that and all blame should go towards this puppet.
This advice is apt. Russians should wake up before it is too late. Mr Putin, the ruthless and senseless aggressor would drive Russia to utter disgrace and destruction, if not urgently stopped!
hilarious... 😎
For Peace to be stable, the Anglo Saxon empire needs to collapse and this “Super Power” concept needs to end. Power needs to decentralise to regional powers that can manage their areas of influence by themselves!
Economist revealing the bleeding obvious.
Do western countries see any ground Ukraine could negotiate on save ' get out of my backyard?' Or is the suggestion that Ukraine entice Putin out of their country with preparedness to yield a chunk of territory? That would sharpen appetite for aggression even elsewhere.
The West should understand that it’s difficult to negotiate with a country which wants to destroy you, if you deny to obey. Any negotiations will only pause this war, and give russia time to prepare to the next one
Pressure to finish off Russia. Indeed. Time to apply pressure to shut the terrorist of a nation down.
This idea is very dangerous and may lead to unpredictable consequences?
Don't you think it's strange? The British government, which is on the verge of economic bankruptcy, even provided huge sums of money to aid Ukraine. Where does the money come from? Didn't he want the UK to freeze Russian assets as compensation...
No, this applying pressure concept of 'The Economist' is horseshit. The US and the world are providing assistance to help a democracy fend off a dictator. it's for their benefit aswell asthe world's. POTUS will keep them updated on status of funds tohelp them with theirdecisions
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It's not like Ukraine was doing a bang up job of peace by any means towards thier own citizens before Russia came in.
“PROSPEREROUS AND PEACEFUL EUROPEAN DEMOCRACY” 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
What exactly is a peaceful democracy?
Common knowledge the Russian war with Ukraine is causing the cost of living crisis but people do not understand that Russia is putting its Unions & Their Leaders in the UK to work to bring chaos to us. Communist Union leaders like Alex Gordon & Mick Lynch are Russian soldiers.
War is all but, over. Russia will dominate Post war settlement, like in Yalta after WWIi.
Lay down what? Can you just stop pushing the idea that the capitulation of Ukraine is the answer! Did US lay down its weapons after Sep 11? In Ukraine Sep 11 is happening every day.
'To the Last Ukrainian!' - Anonymous American General
Ukrainians are unlikely to lay down their arms until at least trying to retake the Crimea.
Just close our check book
Якщо українці складуть зброю - вони загинуть. Історія України доводить, що українці ні перед ким не стають на коліна, не складають зброї. Свобода, воля - головні цінності українців.
Say s the WEF? For the 4th Digital revolution?
The only one that needs to lay down arms is the cruel invasor, the criminal of Putin!
Aaaaahhhhhh … the Russians have said it a few times … And last I recall Zelenskyy just lied to the world about Russia attacking Poland and tried to pull NATO into the war …
Why should Ukraine lay down arms? They were INVADED!
With the economic times pushing NATO to send more arms to Ukraine
The west wants Ukraine to keep fighting until no Ukrainian is left alive....
А Европа и США не хотят отчитаться за пособничество в убийстве сотен тысяч украинцев?
This is a solid sober assessment: thank you, !
👉 Glory to Ukraine ‼️🇺🇦💙💛
Misguided Western communities in Europe and America funding the killing of Russians, in a legally declared war, they have their reasons, is only bringing on the inevitability of nuclear strikes on Ukraine. Don't forget what the West did to Japan without guilt!
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