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Pubs in England 'may need to shut' in order to reopen schools next month

Mr Johnson has previously pledged that both primary and secondary schools in England will return in September"with full attendance".

"And so actually, closing some of the other networks, some of the other activities may well be required to enable us to open schools. "The age distribution of infections has changed - it has moved down into younger age groups and so it is likely we won't see that increase in hospital admissions related to infection in the same way we did in March," he said.

 

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Won't happen, this govt is determined to ensure people spend, spend, spend.

Whilst the whole of the nhs stood up and did their duty, teachers have cowered at home with a glass of cheap white wine, hiding behind their union, finding any excuse to stay out of the classroom. Shameful. The nation awaits....

Utter rubbish

Absolutely NOT. The vast majority of people have been wholly sensible in using these reopened facilities. CLAMPING DOWN HARD on ILLEGAL gatherings of people and protests is needed. Thats where thd problems lie. Also get test and trace fully up to speed.

What joke School must be shut. it put kids life at risk tell the gov and the mps and the rich they can send there kids to schoolThey never will and Gov use poor well we not sending our kids How stupid the gov keep 2 meters and were musk send send 6 year olds to school

Affordable Masks here:

Good

I have only one response to this...

So the teachers can't just run off to the pub?! 🤔

Pubs should serve pints with Clingfilm on top, then just insert a straw!

Indeed, get those kids out of the pub and back in the classroom.

Should never of opened

the BBC needs to be shut down and divested and dismantled and all BBC propagandists thrown in prison.

Frustrated with how 'nightlife' is now all a homogenous risk. A nice meal or a sedate pint in a beer garden is clearly not the same risk as a night spent in one of those packed town nightclubs masquerading as pubs. The spikes in Asia always seem to happen in 'red light areas'

Truly mad. Completely different people go to pubs than schools. This genuinely makes zero sense to even be suggested

You really have lost the plot! Could it be, that you are suggesting that parents are forced to choose between going to the pub, so that their children can go to school BorisJohnson DefundTheBBC

Those bloody kids always in the pub, obviously shutting pubs will get them back to school 🤣

people need to know if they have booked uk ,they may need to cancel,if no pubs or restaurants open ,in poole i booked as thought safer time ,kids back 2 school ,most workers back,i am responseable with gell ,mask etc do my bit,feel sorry 4 businesses.cancelled hotels

Get stuffed 🖕

Ofcom This is fake news

No thanks professor whatisname..he probable never goes to a pub..so the boring sod can do one!!

They need to be quick then if they are expecting schools to open in 4 weeks.

So many DR etc banned from MSM including the bbc to speak or debate about the science .. but Mr Gates who gave 50million + to the bbc gets a slot at will to speak on the bbc

This is not a government position. What the Professor was saying is that we may be getting close to the maximum degree of lockdown easing before the virus goes back into exponential growth, so we need to prioritise, and that might mean trading one freedom for another.

Now their showing us exactly how fekin daft n stupid they really are 🤔 what utter shit

It’s a must! Look what is now happening four weeks on from the pubs reopening-local lockdowns, increased cases and a rise in daily deaths. It’s a shame that we have all let ourselves down. That’s not the governments fault. That lies at our door. parties illegalraves tradeoff

10downingstreet Haven't been to a pub for 20yrs but wouldn't like to see them close. Our local schools have been open for the yr6 etc. Local hosps. no C-19 patients yet not allowed to open salon where a Dr. client says that our PPE is better than hosp.

Boris will probably install portable bars for parents at the school yard economy before safety isn't that right BorisJohnson

Is that because all the teachers are alcoholics now 😂

More fake bullshit from the doomed service DefundTheBBC

Ok here is the trade off, all parents decide if they send their kids to school or go out to the pub or meal. Or stop all children going to ours -restaurants.. No teachers to go to pubs or restaurants when schools reopen That's the trade off ..simple

Opened pubs too soon. We need to question what this government's priorities actually are.

in a country with no jobs what would you be educating them for? looting, drug dealing or signing on the dole🤔

Hmm schools where transmission is low.....yea ok let’s close the economy back down. Good luck with that

No they dont

So the students stop going to pubs?

What the hell has pubs got to do with schools please explain this rediculous headline

Rediculous

So do the pubs only open at weekends and holidays now

Oh, you can forget about that.

All a load of guess work!!

BUT WHY!?

Might as well keep the pubs open. We'll be educating kids for jobs that don't exist since we seem to be turning ourselves into an agrarian economy to avoid this virus with its IFR of 0.5%.

shut the gyms so we dont have to look at mr love my self while waiting at the lights LOL

Desperate attempt to create new headlines to cover up the catastrophic mismanagement of the virus to date. This imbecile believed that his public school words and rhetoric would do what always happens - public school boys get their way.

I thought children didn't spread the virus? Isn't that the science. Closing pubs sounds like a good idea as some groups don't seem to get the idea of getting hammered and ignoring distancing causes an increased in the virus spreading. Roll on a vaccine.

Asif

Our children's future education is more important so no contest I would have thought.

Maybe parents of school age children and teachers should be banned from pubs?

It's probably for the best. Some of our teachers went to the pub at lunchtime and spent the rest of the afternoon stinking of booze.

The only thing that makes sense

Last time I checked, not many 5-16 year olds go to the pub regularly? So why does one have to close for the other to open? Is it to get the teachers and union leaders out of the pubs

This isn’t even true!!! The labour MP said it could a compromise and that’s it. What sort of BS story is this 🤦‍♂️

Yea right as if this is really going to happen 🤷‍♂️

Is that because all the kids are currently in the pubs and won’t come home ?

Bee42681881 More stupid rules the white hats are forcing the Government to do . white hats own our Government to bring them down they need the people to demand their take down . just like Germany and Holland thousands protesting . wake up vaccines won't happen all part of the take down .

Makes sense to minimise spread...say kids spread it to parents, parents then go to pub (bc well, they have kids) and then spread it to others. Just learn to be flexible and accept rn we can't have everything otherwise the longer this will go on for and harder it'll become.

Drunk kids don't study.

Could we shut down the media to allow pubs to stay open?

The Government are fucking Morons. Let’s shut pubs so we can open Schools. Remember that THEY KNOW that EDUCATION CENTRES (aka Schools) are the no.1 way the virus has spread in the UK since the easing of lockdown. Is it too fucking obvious to invest in distance learning NOW?

Really 🤷🏻‍♀️

Stop spreading fake news. Pubs and schools not remotely connected.

Anyone else staring to get pissed off the every f*ing picture in the media is 'BAME'. You'd think every family and worker in England was a 'POC'.

Why? They are nothing to do with each other.

It’s ridiculous! Irresponsible parents can sit with school age kids on a packed beach throughout summer surrounded by hundreds of potential carriers but we can’t go to the pub incase the kids catch it!

What a fucked up world we live in!! I’m all for having a drink but wow 🤯🤦🏼‍♂️

Just fecking shut them and be done with it!!! Short term pain - going to save lives!! We are so heading for second spike .....

Not a lot of social distancing going on to be fair !

The little kids should have priority over the 'big kids'. School is vital for our children, drinks with your friends isn't!

Must be some piss pot teachers!

whataboutweddings

Why?

Fvck off with your nonsense ScumMedia

Why ?

Whole story basically based around the word ‘may’

I work supporting the pub trade and was furloughed for 11 weeks earlier this year. My wife is a teacher's assistant and my son is a teacher and they worked throughout. I really don't understand how closing pubs again will facilitate schools reopening. How are the two related?

What are they all doing in pubs, anyway

Just stop kids from drinking after school. Or limit pints according to age, for example a 6 year old can only do to the pub for 6 pints maximum

War is near

40% of all positive cases last week were asian/asian british, whom don't visit pubs based on the governement's own data. More bingo machine politics from the people in charge.

Well, that bright idea didn't last long, did it?

IF THE GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN PUBS AGAIN THAT WILL END THE PUBLIC HOUSE IN THE UK FOREVER!! IS THIS THE INTENSION OF OUT POLITICIANS?

Makes as much sense as any other government policy on the pandemic. None that is.

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Why goes it have to be a choice? I’m sure we can do both.

This is the most cynical piece of politicking I’ve ever seen. Who is driving this? Pubs V Schools with hatred for govt being the outcome NO MATTER WHAT THE DECISION IS Pubs are not even busy

BiancaJagger Soonest the better. pubs covid19 coronavirus

Pubs are more important than education

Get those teachers out of the pub and back into school

try stopping parents taking their feral children to the peak district and seaside or foreign holidays then complain it's to dangerous to send their feral children back to school

Is it just me or does anyone else struggle with the logic of this? Are children heavy drinkers who frequent bars or are teachers turning to alcohol?

Thank goodness for common sense.

Can anyone explain the rationale behind this apparently nonsensical proclamation?

Close the bloody things... Education comes before some moron having a pint... Drink yourself to death at home by all means no one cares.

What is the correlation between Schools and Pubs? 🥺😳🤔

Yeah … because we’ve seen a massive spike in deaths since they reopened, haven’t we.

We need to just try it and see

Stop spreading fear. Schools can open and so can pubs. This is all scaremongering and ridiculous.

why don’t you put up a poll to see who would pay for a subscription?or you not brave enough? 😂😂

I think for every working class worker who looses his job they should sack a politician

Absolutely close them but only if the government continues to pay the wages of the 3.5 million people who work in this sector. The government will not be able to pay for schools and other welfare benefits if the hospitality industry is asked to close again. Balance is the word

Back peddling again , good job on you muppets can get on your fixed bicycle scheme.

What has happened to track and trace? I think all this is a distraction from their inability to control outbreaks quickly. I hardly go to the pub but it's about jobs too, they need to be open. No more furlough=redundancies and there will be 100+ people competing for 1 job

Pubs will soon be history.

What the hell have pubs got to do with schools. This is just terror. We are giving you something. So we want something back. Fourth Reich is here.

Boris is nuts he’s worse than nuts he clearly wants to piss everyone off the Tory backers and the public in general how much more bullshit does he think we will take

Another loony idea from the government non realality bubble .How about banning vast beach gatherings with inadequate toilet facilities. ?

I build a sneaker box.t for you willsmith Nengi bbnaija2020lockdown ericandlilo MoneyHeist

How do we equate closing pubs with opening schools Really, I would be interested to know the correlation? Like only 30 people allowed at a wedding, but hundreds can protest? I think it's time we called this out

JUST CARRY ON WITH NORMAL LIFE WITH NO DIFFERENCES! THEIR'S NEVER & IS NOT ANY REASONS TO HAVE DONE OR DO ANY OF THIS UNSCIENTIFIC BOLLOCKS! THIS OBVIOUSLY ISN'T ABOUT A VIRUS OR HEALTH! END IT IMMEDIATELY!!!

WHY ARE WE SITTING HERE & ALLOWING THUS TOTAL BOLLOCKS! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING those scientists are saying is true or right! It's PURE MADE UP BULLSHIT! IT'S VERY SIMPLE! WE CANNOT & DO NOT NEED TO TAKE ANY MEASURES AGAINST THIS VIRUS! just LET IT SPREAD, kill A *FEW* PEOPLE & then..

Instead of closing pubs just ban those with kids or who are involved with schools from going to pubs. That way there is no crossover and those without kids are able to go to pubs and the pubs are less at risk of closing permanently.

Schools Pubs

Why what is the relevance

I agree, we can’t risk our kids going to the pub and school. Higher risk of them catching the virus which is wiping out all of child population 🧐

Sorry BorisJohnson but this is BS. My lad has just managed to get a job in a pub after being laid off by the restaurant he worked at now you're getting him fired again. Pubs & schools have no connection.

Wake up people..you are being scammed

The fact that the country put people able to go out and buy alcohol before a child’s education just shows you how much money talks.

Wow bbc ... may ...!!! Typical... bbc scum media

Why? Who’s in there?....the teachers or the children 😳

Priorities.... Get the school's open give the kids back their normality!

Do school kids go to pubs? I know I used to, but this is at twatish as everything this government has announced.

What is this nonsense? Get the schools open. Stop wearing masks and live life normally for god sakes. And leave the bloody pubs open

Time for publicans to revolt they can't prosecute all of them will tie up the legal system for years. Reclaim out country now!

Pubs or schools? Is that really the choice that we are faced with? I know it's all about reducing risk but this is a bizarre trade off. Plus it's an guaranteed to make teachers even more unpopular.

Yet more lies. There's no evidence to justify this suggestion.

So most cases are of adults so would make more sense schools open but knowing boris & his piggy bank the pubs will remain open, home schooling will continue as he will see it as its worked perfectly.

Keep schools shut then

I predict a riot

Most people i see dont even bother with the pub now, garden full of people regular with a dj set up🤷🏼‍♂️ infact most weekends

Absolute nonsense as usual, how many Supermarket staff/ primary school teachers have contracted C19...

There are more kids in school than people in a pub. It’s not safe to open schools when there is a second wave threatening Europe. Schools have more of a chance to spread the virus. More kids, more spreading. The government is washed...

If you shut the pubs/ late night bars, and the furlough ends in October to open schools in September then the 500k+ people who work in pubs/ late night bars will have 1 month of furlough then no source of income AT ALL! Most are 0 houred so then an extra 1/2mil unemployed.

All these commie teachers need to get back to work or we get rid of them. Teachers are centre of the political spectrum if they don’t like it. CEEEEEEEEE YA!

Covid is not the Black Death government needs to calm down.

Utter garbage.

Are they using the pubs as schools?

Just ban the teachers from the pub they've had a long enough holiday as it is

Oh no.. are the pub owners not suffering enough.

Is that because they’ll lose their trade as the children drinkers are back at school...?

Of all the pubs in all the UK the BBC found the one with a black barmaid FFS.

Should never have opened them disaster waiting to happen

Is it so that they can find the Teachers?

That's what you get when you let Sheldon Cooper decide the rules.

Perhaps the learned gentleman should fuck off and let us live out lives youaretakingthepiss

Shut the pubs. Less issues for the police. However, how do you manage and monitor the welfare of young kids whose parents enjoy excessive drinking at home?

👉🏿Pubs vs Schools? ClosePubs

On one hand they say that there is no risk in opening of schools but on the other say to minimise risk of spreading then pub etc may need to shut. Doesn’t make a lot of sense at all.

Why is the opinion of one solitary SAGE member considered headline news!? Oh wait, you can use it to further your agenda of societal destruction. Disingenuous Scummedia fucks

Call me thick or whatever but what the fuck has schools and pubs got to do with each other? Open school shut pub ... open pub shut school wtff ?

If the pubs followed the rules they wouldn’t need to shut, there are absolutely no rules being followed in large pubs and it’s like a normal Saturday out there. Groups of 20 odd together, no social distancing, its just horrific 😭

jemhallx oh

Open the schools and restaurants, cafés and pubs. If this increases the rate of infection so be it. Take one big hit if necessary and then move forward.

The lunatics in charge of the asylum is apt for these ludicrous ideas.

They’re talking about closing pubs to try to convince teachers they might as well be in schools...

Is that the only way to get teachers back to work?

Wonder what ole Worzel makes of that?

Civil disobedience now

Well that will really piss the teacher unions off

What the duck

Stuff schools, keep the pubs open

Or we could open schools and keep pubs but close places or religious worship...

Incompetent decision by the worst govt since the end of wwii.

Are all the teachers are in the pubs everyday?

Not another second wave that must be the tenth predicted one... more scaremongering bull when all the official government figures show deaths dropping and hospital admissions down 35% in a fortnight. More project fear bull

This is the most moronic thing I have heard. Have people finally decided that covid is unlike any other virus in the world. what difference will shutting the pubs down when schools are open? is it four pubs for every school. Does it depend on the school size. Can't make this up.

What is the point in opening pubs and then moaning when people go to them?. Secondly, why start an Initiative, to get even more people to go to them, and then tell people not to go to them 🤔. Why don't people realise yet that we are being lied to about absolutely everything?.

pubs to shut in order to open schools?! Talk about idiocy.

Why? So we can get the teachers out of the pubs and back to work?

you'd never get that past the hardcore in my local....they're all happily sitting 5/6 to a table out front, thinking the fresh air blows everything clean...whatever, Covid-19 will never hit home with some people until it hits their home

Is that so kids will go to school instead of the pub?

Load of bollox

The country is either open or shut. If schools open then everywhere should be open. Mask up .

I love the mask, as we cannot smell bad breath; BO

Why aren’t other countries having to make this trade off? What a complete failure it would be for the U.K.

BBC, remind me again. Who are they?

Yeah, those pisshead teachers

simonrug It's as if they don't know what they're doing.

If the only way to reopen schools is getting the teachers out of the pubs then I’m all for it.

No, no, no, no - this has gone far, far beyond a joke. We cannot live in this fantasy world where nothing is allowed if there is the slightest possibility of someone catching a respiratory illness. The economy IS us - you trash it, and there's no healthcare, and you cause death.

The absolute crap you write to save your inevitable defunding. BBC take note: Mr Johnson turns on those who support him in the blink of an eye when politically expedient. You will still be second under the bus - probably after that idiot MattHancock . Sleep well.

Is that to ensure the teachers start to sober up?

Is it because all the teachers are in the pubs ffs

If that is to be the case .shut down every fuking business just so kids can go back school .government picking and choosing as usual ..

Get stuffed...🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

Fucking teachers at it again 🙄

The MSM up to their rubbish tricks again. Don’t catch the bait.

Government is Missing a trick here. Keep the pubs open. Hold classes in the bar. Win Win.

Without the tax income from hospitality there won't be an educational system for very long.... But hey, good click bait headline to reel the dribblers in.

Govt did not say this.

Next time you hear about people losing benefits because the government supposedly ran out of money, remember there was no limit to what they could spend on corona. The Magic Money Tree really is alive & well!

Really 🤔

The scientists would wrap us in cotton wool forever, but I don't see how the government can go on much longer spending a fortune on unemployment benefits while the tax take evaporates.

People have to see that we are being fooled by now, what a load of bullshit

Perhaps we need a referendum on these choices?

So just add to those of us blojo has already made jobless.. ..just stop with this coronabollox..jobless parents = kids at risk .....who makes this sh£t up?!?!?!?!

If nothing so far highlights that no one in charge has a fcking clue what’s going on. This should do it. Ridiculous.

Never knew the UKs school kids were the ones filling the pubs.

Are the teachers all pished

If the closing of pubs will help keep schools open, just think how much of a difference stopping people crossing counties to go to the beach would have.

You lot are boring

If pubs can stay open because of supposedly following social distancing rules (ahem) 😉🤦‍♂️ then schools can do the same , both at the same time .

I thought that children/schools aren’t spreaders of Covid Why would ‘experts’ now be linking them? Could it be that teachers were right to be wary of infection spread?

mmjblair

Just how ridiculous is this? Where is the connection?

Well I'd miss the pub for sure. However if they need to choose one my children's education would always come first.

How dumb would this be and it doesn't make sense. BorisJohnson

Government just ain’t got a clue,what next 🤷🏼‍♂️

Where will me and my teacher mates go at lunchtime then?

What bullshit. You mean pubs are encouraged to kill their businesses next month. Keep it real Shills

Now everyone has had chance to have a haircut why not shut hairdressers. Massage parlours are also open. People are in closer proximity in those sort of settings.

More stupidity ! One load of shite

No fking way

Wow, this really 'lets abandon reason and logic just go for something that grabs headlines' 🙄

What is the rationale?

'How far can we push the people.' - The UK Government.

Why ? Will the kids be too busy drinking to go to school ! Stop scaremongering. You’re doing damage to people’s businesses and their mental health. So desperate for a headline

NO ....no ...no ... ....there will be far greater job losses if this happens and restraunts will close ..this can not happen at all ...kids can learn from distance learning ... My sons restraunt.... will be devastating if closed

Put your muzzles on sheep.

How can anyone run a business with these morons in charge? It's almost like they want the country to collapse!

So what happens when the hospitality sector all are made redundant and close. 3.2 million people no longer paying taxes which aids schools and education. Children plummeted into poverty. The government needs to find a way for both to exist.

But not bars and restaurants? Media run class war?

Bullshit. Stop telling lies

How are these two things in any way linked?

borisJohnson matthancock rishisunak This is absolutely ridiculous you can only do the closing if the towns are effected. You cannot do this across the U.K. This really is wrong and where is your comparable evidence to support this?

Yeah that makes sense! NOT!

Is that because the teachers are all drunk?

If that happens the government can fuck off

You are a disgrace..DO NOT summise anything until it happens..That's why i believe nothing from you..Lord Reith would be spinning..Where's inform, educate and entertain gone?..DEAL IN FACTS

Is that to get the teachers out of them? More nonsensical bollox

Is tha tae get th teachers back tae work?

Looks like the novelty of the pubs has worn off now and the amount of people going didn’t meet government expectations so it will be first for the chop when the schools re open.

More for people to moan about on morning news tv am getting sick of watching this now. Lets interview someone who is not going opening, can't see family etc News we are all worried about our finances, we are all worried about our health and our family!!!

They should be kept open for those who don't have kids 👍🍻 Ban kids from the pubs is a better option, can add their parents if that helps.

TracymOshea I don’t see the correlation between schools and pubs And I’m sure all those publicans that lost money when they first closed, to then spend a fortune re-stocking to be told they’re going to have to close again in a months time are going to be really happy at this news!!

Does the millions the BBC have received from Bill Gates have any baring on the 24/7 CV19 fearmongering the BBC has put out since Feb 🤔?

They’re trying to balance up now because they have lost control of the R rate. For me, using my simple logic, 2m distancing without masks works, 1m distancing with masks doesn’t work = masks don’t work & we need to up the distancing.

Whit ? Or else whit ? All the kids will be on the pubs and unavailable for school ?!

If you stop your citizens from drinking every night their brain cells may heal and they will figure out their British Government officials are using them and rebel. Be careful what you wish for.

Why can't they get kids out if pubs

What a load of absolute tripe.

I take it GrahamMedley all you at IndependentSage are going to pay the wages of the people who will loose there jobs 🤔

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What a load of shit

They using the same premises? That should be fun for the kids ... workingclassvoice

Just been in Wetherspoons. In no way was it Covid secure. One jug of milk for everyone having tea to use/touch! No cleaning of tables in between customers. No sign up to track/trace. Don’t blame me when schools can’t open

I find it interesting what activities and such people are willing to put before lives and their attitudes to it has been interesting during this pandemic

Pubs should not be open yet full stop 🤷🏻‍♀️

No logic to that policy. The gov and Sage have really lost the plot. Useless

Wasn't this considered when deciding to re-open them? And what, exactly, is the connection?

Just fuck right off,

I'm a bit confused. What is the point in opening and then moaning when people are going to them?.

Surely the answer is just to keep the kids out the pubs?

Here we go again ..

No school period and no drinking and driving. 🗽😷✌

Clearly the government don’t give a damn about people’s jobs only theirselves.

The teachers are gonna need a drink after dealing with kids in masks, who's going to tell the teachers the pubs are shutting?

Is this so the parents can sober up 🤔

Oh shut up. What utter bilge from another scientist who wants his one moment of fame.

coronabollox

What a load of shit

Well that’s the end of pub tenancies as many owe £1000’s in rent when closed. They will also lose their home and all staff sacked. 1/3rd work in hospitality including students paying for university education. Mass unemployment, evictions, repossessions, homelessness, despair, etc

No shit Sherlock?

Is that to get the teachers out the pubs?

Why not use the pubs as school?! Keeps them both open...

UK: we need to tackle obesity Also UK: lets open gyms very late and then close then again once more people get infected and open pubs early and never close them when we see spikes...

What a load of crap

Okay I've got this..... Close the pubs, open the schools. After 3.30pm convert the schools into pubs like they do in the film Buggsy Malone

To stop the kids dinner time pint !!! Bang out of order.

Yes, because school children who have practically zero risk from the virus are in the same category as the unhealthy adults who frequently visit pubs and drink too much alcohol.

Why don't we just hold classes in the pubs?

Are all parents getting that pissed they can't get up to sort/drop kids off 🤦‍♂️

Where is the science? I want to see the evidence for both pubs and schools with risk factors for virus outbreaks. The hospitals and care homes have been the real danger zones, surely though our children’s health is more of a priority than some point scoring against industry.

To get the lazy teachers out of the pubs?

Bbc narrative running the crisis again. Report the bloody facts not make up your own story. Here is a tip Dover has a red hot story for you crack on

BBC “news” attempting to predict the future as usual. What happened to reporting the news rather than creating it?

That's a start but doesn't go far enough. Given the risky behaviour of 'adults' in supermarkets/off-licences (e.g Carlisle Tesco, Fri night newsandstar John4Carlisle), there should be controls on all alcohol sales, i.e limit pre-sale access to those verifying contact details.

We need a proportionate approach that takes into account: -treatment improvements -very low IFR for most people -the consequences of these interventions on health, livelihoods and quality of life Hysterical government meddling is making life not worth living

You think that Wetherspoon freak will let pubs be closed to save kids education think again. It will all be ok anyway as we are not opening bowling alleys and ice rinks that should save the country 🤦

Its also being said to bring in mandated Face Masks for all children in schools. Time to Wake Up!

Drunken teachers eh?

Nonsense. Hospitals are fine. Number of people calling 111/999 with covid symptoms aren't rising. All that matters is hospitalisations and deaths.

What does pubs get to do with schools? Is that another sham!?

Unpopular opinion but why should I as a childless person not be able to do something just because of other people’s children...

AlastairMorgan Good!

I would very much like to know why you are not calling out the government for their lies It would be nice if one news channel a tually reported the truth rather than the governments spin Go on I dare you

Surely you just educate children in the pubs?! Sorted.

Jackopender Get those pints in lad

BorisJohnson that's the least the adults should do for our future generation MattHancock CMO_England

We should let it run now - nhs is protected - people are not dying - treatment protocols looking good If we don't then I dread to think how many we will lose to cancer and mental health as you cannot get the appointments due to this circus

No brainer. I like going to the pub as much as the next person, but schools have to be the priority. We cannot further disadvantage a generation of kids to allow me to go for a pint in my local. Also obvious that the gov may need to choose to open pubs or schools but not both.

Im ready for the growing crescendo of why schools should not reopen as we get closer to the new term.

How on earth do you need to close pubs in order to reopen schools? Serious you sheep need to wake up and start using some logic. These so called ‘scientists’ are delunded.

Shut them cause social distancing doesn’t exist

just cancel exams already

American economy plummets 32.9 % just saying?

Education alcohol It’s a no brainer

Bedwetters dream following the bbc. Unsurprising really.

Why? Are teacher's working behind the bar.

Can’t have kids going to the pubs after school!

🤷‍♂️ why do the kids go on the ale the night before they go to school

Wow. I heard underage drinking was bad, but that’s quite an extreme measure. 🤔

Dang kids getting too drunk 😂😂😂

Is this a wind-up?

Tough choice, should we educate our kids or get pissed. (Seriously though I wouldn’t put it past this country to choose getting pissed)

My understanding is that two year groups have been at school last term I cannot recall mass increase in cases bring schools back on a phased basis keep restaurants open keep economy going

Superhoop72 Why are the kids going into the pubs for lessons?

What rubbish, they’re just trying to divide us AGAIN. Ignore it. Pubs or schools? Both please. And gyms, theatres, bowling alleys, libraries, the lot. Now run along and get a life, we’re not scared of catching a cold like you seem to be.

Good, hopefully the pubs do close, this would see cases reduce massively.

They said it was safe to open schools, so why the need for a trade off? Can't trust a word they say.

Because loadsa kids go to the pub 👀 another nutty fucking professor....bore off

Or hold the lessons in the pubs!

Grow up!

have you been getting your old mates from Spi-B to come in and help you fabricate more fear porn with zero logic? It sure looks like it to me, your time will come.

Dead easy open pubs Fri, Sat, Sun and schools Mon to Thursday !

What a load of crap. Are people really falling for this 💩 ? Our government are like a cork on the ocean, totally all over the place.

The kids shouldn’t be in the pub through the day anyway..?

Let’s keep the pubs open and shut the schools.

Despotic tendency

This is crap. None of it makes any sense, they're just playing us.

There is NO logic to this statement!!

Back to everyone urinating in the parks then.

“We are looking into the erm..the possibility of moving the erm..moving the schools into the pubs. Which would allow us to, you know, erm..get our children back into education, which I think is very important. But at the same time, keep the pubs open.”

Are teachers getting pissed at the thought of going back to work?

The government has completely lost the plot. The lurching from one thing to another and the inconsistency is baffling. Need to learn to live with this and accept that it is fatal for only a small minority of largely economically inactive people who can isolate if they wish.

Oh ffs, what a bunch of clowns we have running this country, we need more people to stand up for themselves and not comply!

This government has turned into a fascist regime. They are drunk on power. We, the people, have had enough of these fucking restrictions, it’s time to push back. BorisJohnson you’re on notice, you’ve been warned

BBCWalesNews Am I missing something? The reason for lockdown was to ease the NHS and to allow the NHS time to prepare for a spike in cases, to bring in more staff and equipment and also to implement an effective track and trace system. If this hasnt been done after 4 months of lockdown we are

atulsearth C'mon they have already chosen the pubs.

Lots of doctors surgeries and hospitals are not busy...

Keeps the kids out of the pubbs too.

What the fuck has the pub got to do with schools.

One extends the brain cells the other kills em

What a load of crap !!! Ffs people stop believing this bollocks and bloody move on , what will be left of society if we keep on this path ? Kids will have fuck all left ......nevermind an education and our hospitality trade will be gone forever .....

Why don’t we just teach our children in pubs?

What a joke!!! I think we should trade the scientist off, they are hell bent on ruining our lives.

The teachers deserve more holidays 😂😂😂

Schools should have been a priority in the first place.

Good, should never have opened

If you're opening up schools you may aswell open up everything, otherwise lick everything down. Just stop with all the mixed messaging!

Cannot understand why shop workers do not have to wear masks when the public do

So what you're saying is 5-15 year olds can't go back to school because pubs remain open, you're off your bloody rockers BBC. I'm so glad my hard earned money doesn't go towards your 'stupid propaganda'

If the risk is that high they have to shut the pubs then just put us all behind locked doors until a vaccine is available. We’re going to end up a wreck of a country as a consequence this mismanaged shambles

Lmao people who put so much trust in BorisJohnson and his way to handle it now contest because of pubs. Don’t forget UK is the most deadly country in all Europe. They certainly don’t tell you that inside the country 🤦🏽‍♂️. Open your eyes to the world 🌍

This is getting ridiculous now. Pubs are AS important as schools and this killjoy boffin isn't living in the real world

Pubs are more important than schools reopening. Adults need time to socialize away from children. I let my kids play on their Nintendo switches while I go have fun inviting over the boys to pre-game before we hit the bars (American word for pub haha). God bless being an adult.

It is important for young people to get back to school but will mental health be at the forefront of education or will it be obtaining grades? We cannot return to what was, we must realise that learning is more than what we know and develop a hybrid system. reformeducation

This is a difficult one as when people go to pubs and they close people carry on back at their houses. Plus loads of house party’s will appear

WinterfellT Bout time the scientists started using their common sense.

he he👆🤗last month it was drink and be merry and now its close up and the schools won't open make your bloody mind up Johnson you can't have your cake and eat it👆🎂

Frankly the statement makes no sense whatsoever let pubs stay open is the public have waited long enough. School should be back in the autumn. BorisHasFailedTheNation again.

It should be because they are spreading covid which they are. How many drunk people social distance? It’s a no brainier

So the Science advisers need to stop talking to the press and the only way we, the public, should be informed is via the government. This kind of speculative information just adds to the huge uncertainty facing people in their lives. I’d sack him from advising.

Do children catch and spead? Evidence from Gov needed otherwise just scaremobgeribg?

Ridiculous. Teachers need a kick up the backside quite frankly. They have been a disgrace throughout this.

What?

WinterfellT Season drinking. All about control.

Schools re-opening is clearly a higher priority than pubs/restaurants being open. Those who fail to understand this, probably didn't do that well at school!!

Getting a bit nearer the truth now! Same reason he has stopped families with children going away on holiday? And still won’t do testing on return although we keep being told to take tests?

No they won’t

Drinking is not important. School/ an education IS important.

Why?, what difference does that make apart from stop people's enjoyment and closing more pubs down

A50Challenge A kick in the never regions for pubs and other places that have gone above and beyond following the 'guidance' - is the 'guidance' wrong?

No chance.

Close the schools then - cheers 🍻 😷🤣

Is there any proof pubs are sources of contagion? If there is, they should publish it before clamping down, yet again, on our freedoms.

A50Challenge What connection do pubs have with schools? Am I the only one not getting this?

I have just heard this and cannot believe why it should be necessary. Children should not be in pubs in the first place. Why on earth should everyone else who is observing social distancing have to suffer.

What if the pubs are full of school kids?. Watch out for further advice from Boris...

Lies and fake news from the BBC.

Bloody teachers! They need to sober up!

No face masks in wales ( only on public transport and that has only been from this week ) and transmission is very low

About time ,kids need to start school ,wasted too much time as it is ,ppl can still get their drinks off supermarket !!

If this is true then 10DowningStreet have noidea what they are doing - if this is not true then bbc should be ashamed of their scaremongering

RayUngerer Utter tripe, Ban teachers from pubs problem solved, In fact just ban teachers I use this word with some reservation, as teacher implies something other than they are today!

As it takes such a long time for the government to realise what to do(lockdown,wearing masks)can we start campaigning now for staff in schools to wear face masks.Perhaps by October half term, this will then be compulsory.

Very nice legs on this one, feel it will age well. Deep backtracking on the nose whilst managing to taste apparently clueless on the palate. Flavour dances about unexpectedly, changes direction, sharp. Best taken when you have no clear idea what your doing.

Totally agree back to school comes before booze !!!

Makes all sense. If the kids are in the pubs they aren't in school

‘May’ being the operative word.

Look at Sweden’s figures recently!!! Do some actual investigative journalism maybe?

playing with people's livelihoods. Hope this is just one of your stupid scaremonger headlines that you love to put out all the time.

Another economic hit on our businesses.

Wow. The underage drinking problem in this country is clearly far worse than I realised 😂😂

Why? We all know where the increase in cases is coming from and it isn’t pubs

stirring 'dissent' with 'speculative opinion' in their 'desperation' to 'fill' the 24/7🤦‍♂️🤮 GrahamMedley is a 'MeMeMe 2020 Self-Interest Tw' who simply can't stop feeding media instead of 'being responsible' leaving it to GOVUK BorisJohnson to inform what-is-what!

Those school kids unaffected by the virus 👍 sounds a cracking idea. Some peoole rise in life well above what their intelligence should allow.

It’s the only way to get the teachers back

MHristo Pubs. Schools. Schools. Pubs... Was he talking figuratively?

I’ve heard it all now,these scientists are just guessing most of this

Thank god, a useful policy for once!

I'm sure if you ask the Brits they would choose pubs over schools. Referendum

I think it's about time we dismantleandrebuild our political system, and national institutions like yourselves

Why are all the kids in the pub ?

They must have lowered the Drinking Age again ...

Pubs or schools, great topic for a referendum.

They'll have to pay the hospitality sector to keep them shut. Expensive. Or taxes will have to go up on the 66% to pay or the 33%.

...yawn ...

Allow pubs to open on school premises and then you solve both problems. Bosh

The Government should be reducing the virus to zero ⛔. But, wow, don't be so worried about it! 🍺 Also, they should be moving much quicker, putting restrictions in immediately! 🚫 But for God sake give us a weeks notice before it happens 😡.

If this helps slow down the spread of the virus then so be it. Kids education is more essential

What an utter shambles this has descended into 🙄🙄

Kids and people lives are more important than people having a drink.

But, just kill the school staff off 🙄 I was feeling a bit better about going back to work in one, but having so many people in tiny rooms with rates rising is not helping my anxiety at all schools pubs

Why, have all the teachers got second jobs as barmen ?

Yeah, because they’re all getting pissed before school and going after last lesson to top themselves up aren’t they. What a fucking utterly ridiculous idea. Can’t believe I’ve just read that. Burn my fucking eyes out.

Q the Range Rover driving parent driving 400 metres to drop there kids off. Clogging roads, and polluting the air again!!

Bullllllshit

This 'trade-offs' strategy is not going to cut it. We are not dealing with carbon off-sets here. If the second wave begins to accelerate in London it will be necessary for the city to go back into lockdown as it was in April to prevent the virus from running out of control again.

Have the school lessons in the pub. Problem solved 👍

Could the pubs open at the weekend when the schools are shut? 🤔

No they don’t .. and schools should open in September ! We should stop wearing masks and just go out and live .. can’t you see what is happening ? This nonsense needs to stop . People livelihoods are going to collapse .. country will just break !

Or sort out the metabolic health of the nation and then everything can go back to how it has always been before this pandemic.

meanwhileinscotland

Usual click bait nonsense from the ScumMedia BBC Shut this worthless cultural marxist abomination down as soon as possible. DefundTheBBC

How about we realise we have to live with this virus and just get on with our lives...

Why? Kids all int boozers off their nuts or summat?

Cos the teachers need to sober up before they go back, I suppose.

I thought children couldn't spread it?

Can you please provide the scientific bs evidence on how you worked this one out?

Who briefed the media on this? Which Tory decided it would be good to let this out gently at the weekend? Shambolic Tories.

Another ridiculous U-turn, confirming that they shouldn't have reopened in first place. Incompetence at top levels.

The governments press briefing should be on TV daily. Why let the scummedia dictate how and what we hear about?

Stop scaremongering and report the truth. These are official government figures which show in the last 2 weeks hospital admissions down 35%. Yet the media is all doom.

Who makes up this rubbish

Do they want to use the pubs for extra classrooms to get spacing?

Something that makes sense at last, the re-closing of pubs!

Get a grip on TestandTrace capability to bring COVID19 communitytransmission under control, then put universal guidance around social interaction in place across board; a rather simple sequence ~ the current UK pandemic response roulette is only going to generate lockdown.

Gammon ain’t gonna like that

Where are the kids going to go at lunchtime?

Incoming white gammons complaining about how their rights to go to the puns exceed the rights of children to get an education.

Ok so it looks like we now all need to live in separate communities. People with children divided from young free and single etc 😂

Worried about kids bunking school and going to the pub?

I am assuming this is because it is the only way to get the teachers out of the pub?

Shut down Primark and other shit shops like that. Sorted 👍

If they close officially, we set up our own.

According to who

As much as I understand the reasoning behind it, this sort of opening and closing businesses is awful for them, no way of planning ahead. More small pubs will close because of this, which suits the big chain pubs. SupportLocalBusinesses

None of ours will be going back this year come what may.

Do whatever it takes.

Shut them. Education is far more important than alcohol

Teach the kids in a pub, problem sorted.

If implement this BorisJohnson you can forget my vote in the future. bollox

What are Brits kids doing in pubs?

Damn straight, pubs should have never taken priority over schools in the first placw, it's that simple, the lost education for our children has been criminal and MUST end! educationgovuk GavinWilliamson BorisJohnson usforthem

That's gonna confuse the shit outta the xxxxology students in Oxford. That's where they spend 90% of their time.

Good !!

Pubs aren’t a priority, the kids & the future is!

...Good luck with that one!! Do you really think BorisJohnson will be telling his loathsome Wetherspoons mate, Tim Martin to shut up shop again any time soon? COVIDIDIOTS HerdImmunityIsMurder

They shouldn't be open in the first place.

meaning... 'I am in blood stepped so far that, should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o'er' - Shakespeare

Gov. Ron DeSantis in Florida (31 July) “You can test positive for 12 weeks so we have people who are not infectious, have no live virus & they’re getting a positive test, 10 days, 20 days out”. The lockdown narrative is totally shot away! PCR tests do not find free viruses!

johnmerro1 L O L

Ooh I can see that going well down south! Makes sense though !

RIP every independent pub

Why? Do the NHS need to make more Tic Tok videos?

i can't see the relevance

This could be one possibility

Why ? To stop the teachers who were so scared of catching the virus going in them

Brilliant, then we can use the pub premises as overspill socially-distancing classrooms.

In simondolan case,the government defence was that schools were never closed and that they are not able to close them under the CV Act 2020 Using schools to define what happens to pubs is a false narrative. Another psychological operation on uk public

More nonsense. We went into lockdown to flatten the curve and support the NHS. Not to give up our freedoms and liberties. Hard truth is virus is here to stay. More people will catch it and unfortunately a very low amount will still sadly die.

MAY very good use of words let's panic

Very simple, put the schools into pubs. Everyone wins!

Keep Wales safe: always observe social distancing (also known as physical distancing) – stay 2 metres (3 steps) away from others, indoors and outdoors wash your hands regularly if you meet another household, outside your extended household, stay outdoors work from home if you can

Keep them open outside

A swap I'd be happy to see

wtf kind of logic is this

😂 Britannia rules the waves

Who could have guessed that a PM, fond of a drink, allegedly, and who doesn’t even acknowledge, let alone look after, some of his own children, would be slow to realise that children’s needs should take priority over the re opening of the pub?

And the 🐖 are sky blue ..

Should have prioritised schools opening over pubs in first place !

All the teachers must be on the smash.

This makes no sense what so ever. Both places cause high levels of COVID spreading. Just shut both ffs

Please people. Don't discuss this as it is actually a thing. Just ignore it. Know it will happen. Understand you are all being taken for a.big ride and this shite won't stop. And do something about it!

Blimey I knew teachers liked a drink but I didn’t realise it was that bad

One person out of 50 in SAGE said this. SAGE are also an advisory group, not the law. Headlines like this are misleading, dangerous and simply just scaremongering...this illustrates why the are no longer respected

Pubs shut but schools open...

What on earth 🤷‍♂️

Neither pubs nor schools needed to close at all. What a ridiculous joke this country now is. From “protect the NHS” (always a lie because they’ve broke it) To full blown life and livelihood destroying medical fascism

Fair enough

CWhittaker_MP Conservatives is this because of BAME too?

Good idea. Childrens wellbeing, safety and education will forever be more important than a pint!

A non story

Exactly what i was expecting, there has to be a trade off - we cannot risk another potential lockdown.

These kids just can’t keep out of the boozer man.

wtf? 💩

Stop this it’s disgraceful reporting. People jobs are at stake and this in not responsible reporting... DisgustingTweets

No chance of schools opening anyway... people will be queueing for miles outside doctors surgeries asking for sicknotes.

Why ? Can’t they keep the kids out of the pubs and get them back to school ?

Is that because all the teachers will choose the pub over school? 😂 retiredteacher

But aren’t schools supposed to be safe? Are they saying save the adults and make the kids get it instead?

Good. It’s not vital that pubs need to be open it’s more essential when children need to be educated

My kids ain’t going back anyway. Because I don’t want them wearing a mask 7 hours a day five days a week.

Gammons' heads explode.🤯

Stop spreading bullshit SkyNews

Didn't know children go to pubs to have a bevey before they go back to school.

JoeZBlair Probably best to keep the schools closed, then.

Sounds good to me.

So that's why the kids dont wanna go to school,been down the boozer all along

Shouldn’t have opened them . Was too early

Won’t need education soon. Because UK will be a 3rd world shit hole the rate it’s going. Economy is going 👇

May need to shut because the pissed up idiots are not distancing, not registering & causing this increase. Anywhere with shared toilets is a big risk...add alcohol into the equation and we have super spreading hotspots. Schools are a cover story.

Why

Close the gyms instead. You can go for a run in the park, go for a bike ride or swim at the seaside.

😂😂😂😂😂 They know how to cheer people up.

Have teachers taken 2and jobs in pubs ?. I'm mean seriously do these ideas just get made up based on finger in the air decision making ?.

BBC. You disgust me.

This makes no sense.....but why start with logic now?

Keep the pubs open 👍🏻

Is this to stop teachers turning to drink?

Hard to believe the word 'may' even needs to be used here. Education trumps having a pint anytime

Couldn’t have made it through my school years without the Coach & Horses. When the teachers left the public bar we knew it was time to get back....

If it helps get kids back to school then so be it. Education comes first. Also what about universities? Will they be reopening or will they be all online?

Education isn’t that emportant

But are they allowed to serve beer at the schools?

I wish they shut the bbc news down

are all over 75's law breakers as from today?

Why not just require pre-booking for pubs and masks in schools? There is no joined-up thinking from the government.

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