Tanya Plibersek calls for Australian children to take pledge of allegiance

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Senior Labor MP Tanya Plibersek will use an Australia Day address to call for all school students to be taught the Australian citizenship pledge

. The legislation contains two versions of the pledge, one which mentions God and another version which does not.The Department of Home Affairs encourages school students to also say the pledge, called the Australian Citizenship Affirmation.that the statement is"a chance for us to come together in our school community and affirm our commitment to Australia and its people.

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" is the text of the patriotic oath. 'Patriotism is not about exclusion' "Patriotism is an ongoing commitment to your country - and an ongoing commitment to the people with whom you share it."

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Learning a pledge isn’t important but an education in civics and political engagement is auspol Teach our children how to make the system work for them.

Can't see any problem here. Being proud of your country means you will grow up wanting what is right and healthy for all people ready to praise and work untiringly for what is good but being unafraid to tackle what is not so good.

Pretty stupid idea.

Important to respect one's Australian heritage and country and one's fellow Australian. So long as this doesn't become like the Chinese communist pledge where children obey the government. I do worry when Labor has an idea.

Smart move politically The right move nationally If Labor is to ever win power again, this is the sort of stuff that will do it. Seems the love affair with the Twitter lefties is over. Could Labor be returning to its working class roots?

I pledge to struggle for an independent Australia, free from the yoke of American imperialism, and to smash the local ruling class. Zivio Tito! tanya_plibersek

Sh*t I need a 🍷🍷..I agree with Tanya. 🤦‍♀️🇦🇺

“This is the Wattle, the symbol of our land; You can stick it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand.”

Yeah doubling down, double the trouble at the next election. Most people don't appreciate sill political decisions

Ok, Tanya, first time I've agreed with anything you've said. As long as it's apolitical, we should be fine with that Well done. tanya_plibersek

I have to Agree AustraliaDay australiaday2020

This I ABSOLUTELY agree with. Don't care what party implements it,just DO IT👍🇭🇲

Tanya Dutton ?

Australia's allegiance is to Her Majesty the Queen, not politicians. Just look at the how shameful Scot Morrison behaved towards bush fire victims. I don't think our monarch would lower herself to such base behaviour.

Yeah she can piss right off

Excellent idea Tanya

Before or after she renounces her Slovenian citizenship!

Most pressing issue for us..not

Why would Australian kids have to do that?

greens could do with this

She's got nothing better to do than come up with this crap? tanya_plibersek

Obey Australian laws. What a croc load!! How about bringing back the teaching of our Constitution so kids know the law!!! Typical for pseudo gvt to get it arse about face.

'I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its People, whose democratic beliefs I share, whose rights and liberties I respect, and whose laws I will uphold and obey'. Looks and sounds more like something politicians need to learn, recite and practice daily.

WTF Labor!

Tanya is a very good politician and role model and does a lot for the country people need to take more notice ! Next PM ?tanya_plibersek

Does that include a whole lot of useless labor whingeing?

As long as she doesn’t recruit for the Labor Party. It’s a day for all Australians.

I don't often agre with Tanya but credit on this , I just hope it's not disingenuous and perhaps manoeuvring to position herself to knock off Albo

'REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'!!!!!! - The left.

This is utterly repulsive.

tanya_plibersek This idea snjust plain stupid. So now we need to indoctrinate people to believe ‘our values’ rather than they grow up believing in ‘our values’ themselves! This is what the Nazi party did so do u really want to be in the same boat as them? Seriously?

Way to get some publicity Tanya. Bad publicity

She’s doubling down? Labour right now really is Liberals-Lite. How disappointing.

Well knock me over with a feather I actually agree with Tanya on this one! auspol

Yeah, nah.

I would love to know what they plug into, to come up with these barbaric reforms that they are TRYING to endorse into society!!

Has Labor not got anything else to offer on Australia Day?

Waste of time

Tanya is starting to sound like a leader to me...

That’s fine but how about using the address to demand the true Pre-History of Australia be taught within the Australian curriculum so everyone understands why the concept of Australia Day is one of mourning for our First Nations People

Maybe the politicians might want to take a look at it first and compare their behaviour

Her admiration of Hillary Clinton & US is showing. While our government remains US puppet, Australians would prefer we don’t get dragged into this nonsense on every other front. We don’t do pledges. Australians just do. So tanya_plibersek can take her US dream & shove it.

Rock on Tanya, we’ll done

1/n I arrived in Australia on 20 July 1963 as a child of parents who had paid £10 each for assisted passage to Australia. Within a few weeks I was enrolled in a South Australian primary school. There, school assemblies were held once a week including ‘Saluting ...

So much drama over this. What's wrong with being taught the pledge all immigrants have to recite when they become citizens? I doubt there'll be a compulsory recitation implemented FFS. I doubt most Australians even know it exists. They should. Not a big deal.

I'm a member of the Labor party but I'm sorry Tanya, I'm not buying this

Sorry - on a list of priorities about a mile long, this one comes in at about 5 miles down! I’m not sure what has prompted this thought bubble, but the ALP should have thought a little more deeply.

How do those boots taste Tanya?

ScottMorrisonMP DamTom79 DanTehanWannon kelliekelly23 mattjcan Labors unions Teachers unions hang your heads in shame Australian students LAST IN THE WORLD global tests Smart people study get jobs Sheep go to protests and live off other workers

Twit just another oxygen thief in politics .

A pledge of allegiance, taught by rote to a child too young to grasp the concept, has little more merit than committing to memory the words of a song.

Needless jingoistic crap. She’s been pushing this facile idea for more than 2 years. This is an unnecessary distraction from the existential problem of ClimateEmergency and the inept bunch led by Morrison.

For once, just once I agree with her.

The American takeover is complete, tinged with a hint of Hitler Youth.

this teaches children how to ? mouth phrases they don't believe? to be politicians? phoney yanky?

ScottMorrisonMP kelliekelly23 macsween_prue PeterDutton_MP Labor fake patriotism 'Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels'

It's just labors tactic to discredit a potential liberal smear campaign which would spread that labor are anti strayan values to manipulate the 'stupid' underclasses into a culture war. She doesn't truly believe it but it's light weight nationalism to appease the antiLabor media

What a ridiculous idea

No!

Two words. Get fucked.

Let’s just teach them about how our parliaments and system of government are supposed to work.

This can fuck right off, as can our corrupt government.

That will upset the lefties. They hate Australia.

I hope not!!

This I can get behind!!!!

Stupid idea.

Why the fuck is the ALP determined to destroy itself tanya_plibersek FFS

Fark,. Tanya and Albo have lost the plot. So much unused ammo against the LNP and these idiots turn the gun on themselves.

No way this woman should be making such an address. What a global embarrassment.

Lol what

What? Your going to force the kids to pledge? Good luck. Laughable.

FFS. Greens here I come!

What could go wrong 👇🏽

Give up Coal and then maybe you'll be relevant.

No. Before we even talk about this, how about a bill or rights?

Really Tanya? Why

What a load of right wing crap. I think the Labor Party just died.

Lame

How about we teach resilience, critical thinking, emotional intelligence and effective communication?

Good.

You are not busy enough tanya_plibersek.

its a joke yeah

What’s next, standing with hand on heart gazing at the flag What a load of Patriotic wank..

What is she thinking

😧😳

Pauline called, she wants her idea back

Nope nope nope

Everyone: Literally Everyone: tanya_plibersek: CiTizEN PleDgE!!!!

This is all for show. What does it mean to kids? Just a whole lot of words.

Eat my shorts.

Really? Gah!

maybe a better idea if this was for all Mps to make the pledge instead Not of citizenship but of truth and honesty, serving Australia🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨

How about calling for all politicians to pledge not to misappropriate public money and base policies on verifiable evidence? That’s rather more important right now. LaborOwnGoal ffsTanya

Very disappointing load of bollocks from the Plib. Thought she was better than this

Please don't. Use it to remind us of our responsibility to care for our wounded country and eachother as a priority. We don't need this.

That’s a great idea

Cannot read a room 🙄

This must be a joke

Lame. call for EqualRights rights refugee rights and no deaths on custody. This opposition is a collaborator

Oh dear Tanya, did you get that advice from ScottyfromMarketing PR Adviser?

Never saw so many people break into a cold sweat over admitting which country they live and serve in.

Just shut up tanya_plibersek No one wants to hear this drivel.

as an ex soldier, and migrant i have pledged allegiance to Australia and it's laws . i am proud to be Australian but not proud of what Australia has become... in my school days we had a flag ceremony which reminded us that we were Australian and had things here to be proud of .

Me today: *laughs in Greens voter* Call me crazy now, Labor stalwarts.

I don't care how much trouble my kids get in, they will recite whatever they damn well please.

Tanya! Get in the bin. 🤬

Sweet, maybe the ALP can bring back Knighthoods aswell...

This seems to be from the John Howard playbook ...

Why they are already aussies, they have nothing better to do?

oh dear lord...

Not often will I back Tanya but on this occasion she is 100% correct. Well said!

I really need to reconsider my party choice if this is the best Labor can produce. Sad.

Pass the sick bag.

tanya_plibersek please don’t

May as well teach all school kids the Australian anthem, it will mean the same thing 🙄

'From this time forward, I pledge my loyalty to our shithead PM and his cabinet of criminals and drunks, whose beliefs left this country smouldering, who took our rights and liberties, one nation under God, indivisible, human rights abuser, so help me God & go and get stuffed.'

What the actual fuck. tanya_plibersek

Ummm I don't think so. What a load of cobras Hand on a bible, swearing to the Christian god, pledging loyalty to a country governed by a crime syndicate. Tokenistic, sloganistic, no bloody chance FFS Tanya, get a grip

Please, don't.

Embracing coal, pledging allegiance... all part of Baldrick's cunning plan to get Labor elected? What else is coming? I am so depressed.

What a load of bollocks!

Just in case the Labor party had any believers left... FFS

Don’t do it Tanya

How about a proper civics education instead of some jingoistic tripe?

Plibersek is back holiday didn’t do her any good comes up with more garbage

You've got a government being run like a crime family, and you're blathering on about freaking pledges? priorities

LOL

There are more important issues.

Because this is the biggest issue in education. What on earth is she thinking.

Are we being trolled on the eve of convict day or has tanya_plibersek been hacked?

Where is our Bill of Rights? Before we force children to recite some American-style Pledge, we need to have that conversation. What exactly are they pledging that allegiance to? At present, Australia is perched precariously on the edge of Fascistic Nationalism, thanks to the IPA

Why don't u try teaching them the National Anthem. A lot of schools no longer sing it as it may offend some students. Mortlake P-12 College in Vic is one example. As usual the minority controlling the majority. australiannationalanthem AustraliaDay

No, please don't, Tanya.

Hopefully she finds time to rewrite her speech overnight, or tomorrow may prove very very embarrassing for tanya_plibersek

Oh what a lot of rot! More like the US every day.

No.....

tanya_plibersek how about pledging to improve the education of all Australian children not just those that can pay for it. How about pledging to changethedate how about promoting unity not division. Australia needs a new workers party. ALP=LNP

My kids won't be doing any such thing. These politicians are just living in an alternate reality, their behaviour and the things they bring in to law are just so un-Australian.

No

This is idiotic, tanya_plibersek . We are not Americans, despite have a PM who models himself on Trump.

Terrible idea. Think of children on visas - they’ll be made to feel less than each day. Also: since when did it become normal for our politicians to spout this jingoism? So sad to see this garbage being aired in 2020. Focus on the real issues! auspol ClimateEmergency

Seriously? That's what she's using her address to do? Not for indigenous culture and techniques to be taught in schools. Not for a balanced history of our country to be taught in schools? Further indoctrination and falsehood? That's her fucking big idea?!?

tanya_plibersek AlboMP ScottMorrisonMP— How about you folk in the Canberra Bubble swear an oath to Australia... Oh wait , you do. And it is meaningless.- Left, Right, you are all unethical and immoral-Democracy is broken.

Or, and hear me out, we could teach them more maths and English.

Yay! So the empire is stuffed , just Australia, like the yanks do

Unbelievable.

We are not Americans. I don't want to be like them either. Screw this bs

Nup.

Very bad idea Ms Plibersek.

Yeah did that in my primary school days almost 50 years ago. Marching off to class from assembly, God Save the Queen sung dutifully, off key recorders as backing. Also had 'cadets' to teach gun skills and the cane to keep us honest. WTF would you want to go back to that crap?

If leaders lead with example and encouraged inclusiveness rather than division, the foundations of our culture are unique and strong enough to be proud of and promote without the need for forced patriotism.

Omg why? What's the point? What is this?

Yeah right

PCKJ3627 Even if only strategically speaking, this is a bad idea that plays directly into Morrison’s hands.

PCKJ3627

FRO

Can't help noticing Labor wannabe leaders, who lost interest after the failed election, seem to be raising their public profiles all of a sudden. Bowen, and now Plibersek, can't get in front of microphones fast enough.

I think there's more important things to talk about Tanya - we don't live in the US.

oh please no tanya_plibersek. This is just ridiculous

What new jingoistic hell is this?

It’s rare for the left to actually like Australia, no wonder they are going crazy at Tanya 🤪🤦🏼‍♂️ auspol

What a waste. She could have pledged top quality snags and bread for all kids on Tuesday.

Any proof a pledge has the power to change people?

With their right hand on their heart and their left hand on the Bible? How about getting real and teaching them how to deal with and survive climate emergencies. Too progressive huh? tanya_plibersek

Australian history should be a requirement in all schools, in particular indigenous history! I never got taught any Australian history in school and I never had to.. And now I am ashamed at how little I know.

If a conservative MP suggested this they would be labeled racist!

Was it not the Whitlam Labor government that stopped school children reciting the Oath of Allegiance every Monday morning? They scrapped the school cadet corps as well.

I certainly hope she has rethink on this one

Maybe we should all learn the Anthem first

I’d prefer to see something done about this

First time I have ever agreed with her. Agreed.

Oh dear

Where has this come from? Apart from it being a dreadful idea, the timing is absolutely appalling

GCobber99 Really.. Is that all you have tanya_plibersek we hear nothing, see no push back on the corrupt goings on by the LNP, Nothing of any note from your party and this is all you have to offer. Nationalistic BS. Not acceptable in this time of large problems.

Madness

One of the very FEW times I will agree with Commissar Plibersek! About damn time Australian's revere Austraia; I am in import of 30 years and I DO! ABCNEW smh

Why?

And the national anthem. A lady on the ABC radio quiz on Wednesday night could not say what the fourth word of the Australian National Anthem was.

Why must you seek to sabotage any chance the ALP’s got? Whoever advised this is incompetent. The reaction will overtake critical issues like the sportsrorts & the appalling way the Morrison Govt has dealt with national emergencies. Please Tanya, don’t do it. You can do better,

Was this on the ' Bullshit hour'? Apparently it's very popular with the fruit cake left.

Once you change the date... even then I’m not so sure.

Pliber. Have you lost the plot.

Don’t do it!

🤦🏻‍♀️ oh dear...how about fixing the school curriculum instead...and introducing more Aust history.

it’s 2020, not 1892!

No its unAustralian

Why and why?

No just no

Is her knickname “berserk”?

Go Tanya, I L()Ve the idea ! I am also enjoying the unpatriotic left eating themselves over it ! BRING IT ON, INSTILL RESPECT FOR AUSTRALIA FROM A YOUNG AGE !

and our reaction... ...think this is what we like to call a twitter pile on. my answer would be:

Time to wake from your slumber Australia.

FRO

Labor promoting Little Johnny's values. Awesome.

Citizenship makes us legal fiction in the eyes of the law, Dead at sea under maritime law apparently. More brainwashing at indoctrination centres. Selling out fellow human beings for money takes a special sort of evil.

No thanks - if we are going to have more disease in Australia I prefer the coronavirus to nationalism.

How about teaching children about climate change and how to protect our world.

Thay should do that when thay do it in parliament which thay won't

why would i want to pledge allegiance to a country with HER in government

VOTINGindepend How very unleft of her.

Not sure which genius poll-watching strategist came up with this and Albo's 'should stay on 26th'... but can I just say... train wreck?

We don’t need that - we are not America! australia

Yep. That will really help to raise the standard of Australian Education. Shall we be raising flags every morning too? Could auspol get any more freaking useless? Honestly, losing hope by the day!

Why?

Big ad for people to homeschool their kids.

I want a workable bill of rights before I'll pledge anything other than my furniture!

No thanks. My school is doing just fine teaching the real history of our country, respect and tolerance.

Why? tanya_plibersek this is a terrible idea

This may just be the first time I've ever actually agreed with tanya_plibersek

You realise the right wingers will still not vote labor yeah?

Please Tanya, don’t!

Yeah nah, Nationalism isn’t the way we do things here, Tanya

Oh Yuck & Double Yuck. 'I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, & to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty & justice for all,' should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag, right hand over heart.

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Ok apparently there is now one major party with two different divisions, all tailored for the boomer vote. Looks like leadership is too hard for Australian Politicians.

Let's work on having honest politicians before they start telling us what we should pledge to.

What's wrong with singing good old Methodist hymns? Way better tunes and words.

Oh FFS. WHY? Politicians are so stupid.

Probably not a high priority at the moment in the general scheme of things. If you wanted to do this, perhaps start with an oath for all politicians that they would not support policy or concepts unless supported by scientific consensus and fact. tanya_plibersek albomp

School children should be 'shown' how to be good citizens, not made to just memorise a statement

so tanya_plibersek maybe get parliament to do it first since Parliament dont respect the rights and liberties of the people, or democracy or the law auspol

Stupid idea tanya_plibersek. We aren't Americans, nor do we want to be. 'We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and fight to defend our rights and liberties.' auspol

Will never be a Labor voter but fair play, this is the first piece of common sense I have seen from them in 10 years!

Tokenism. Cui bono?

Did she rip the idea off Chairman Mao ? PlibThePleb AustraliaDay auspol

Old idea, bad outcome.

FFS... NO

No!

Lots of Australia haters on here. What's your problem with nation, heritage and honour?

American styled jingoism. Maybe some flags to pin on their lapels as well?

I disagree. I don't have a problem with them being taught it as part of Australian history or social studies but if they r just rite learning it and repeating it, it means nothing

A lot of us haven’t got the citizenships feels atm tanya_plibersek ... if this is a vote pitch I think the tone is wrong. Truth telling and human rights. Save the planet, leave the jingoism alone auspol

Why

Is she on happy pills

Americanisation.

It’s a ‘no’ from me... Thank all that is holy that this is and will never be Labor policy. tanya_plibersek, AlboMP wants to see you in his office. Your timing is unbelievable. auspol

To: tanya_plibersek From: Australia This is a very stupid idea. Ends.

I didn't realise her suggestion was the Australian Citizenship pledge. That explains the 'this time forward' bit. More importantly, children under 16 are not required to make the pledge when being granted Citizenship. I think all Australians under 16 should be excused as well.

Sieg heil, etc

Gee whizz, she is displaying as much awareness of public opinion as her leader (who supports staying with 26/1)

Following in the footsteps of great man the little Johhnie Howard who wanted a flagpole in every schoolyard. Ms Plibersek has written an oath of allegiance to drive home the message of the merits of rank hypocrisy.

Omg shocker did they sing our national anthem too!! 😱🤪stupid fake news!! Stop trying to take our attention away from the criminals investigating their own scapegoat briggie!! We still want a bipartisan investigation

🙄🙄

Labor attempting to appeal to the flag wavers

Moving closer to nationalism isnt something Id have expected from the Labor party.

Tanya, sweetheart, you're not in government to make that call.

Why?

With the mess the government is in why suggest anything ?... Who is advising her to do this 🤬🤬🤬

and labor wonder why they did so poorly at the last election

I like the idea. However, I think school children should be learning about frontier wars, stolen generations, etc. Fifty years ago, we saluted the flag, sang God Save the Queen, marched into class and learned about Cpt Cook!

😡 First and ,I hope ,only use of emoji. I can't express my dismay any better.

Nick off we don't pay your exorbitant wages for you to come out with this shite.

So she wants us to become Americans.

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