'People fighting proxy wars': Mavuso Msimang on bid to oust Gordhan

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“If the president blinks and removes Pravin Gordhan, he will have to give in on all other unreasonable demands that these people make.”

Without naming Gordhan, Eskom board member Busisiwe Mavuso told a parliamentary committee of an interfering shareholder who exerted intense political pressure on the board to keep the lights on irrespective of the cost.

Msimang said it would be more likely to find common ground if the differences in the ANC were ideological “but here you are dealing with thieves”. “We are saying you can't unite with corrupt people. That's what we are saying. They are heavily implicated in corruption.” Msimang also took a swipe at ANC members who spoke about the Nasrec resolution on the SA Reserve Bank and the lack of implementation as being selective in their demands.

 

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if the president says goodby to Gordan then goodbye South Africa.

Is mavuso reffering to anc voters or south africans by saying 'this people'

Forget the Guptas, infiltration of the Chinese into the SA gov, business and SOEs is far worse than you could ever think. Hundreds of billions of rands (possibly trillions). And all the while, brown paper bags filled with R200notes and USDs passed to the minions in back of Ubers.

It is only those who wish to fatten their bellies, behinds and bank accounts by stealing our money while stomping over all the hungry and unemployed that want Mr. Gordon out. He is delaying their looting. prayforpravin

The anti-progressive hyenas are too strong. Let's hope President Cyril and the handful of ethical, honest and dedicated civil servants can survive the corrupt antics and actions of the criminal politicians. prayforpravin

From under wicch rock did you retrieve such a defence for Pravin Gordhan? What a great move in the defence of man who is 25 years in government and we are going backwards instead of forward. Yes a great move But we are not going to fall for IT.

Msimang calling concerned South Africans ‘these people’😤

The fucked up every state entity. Now they want the guy who is trying to fix the mess to be fired. Unrepetent thieves!

Pravin has to go. SA media is blindly protecting a criminal. Pravin is working the DA agenda. Anyway there is not much we can expect from certain SA media. Especially the garbage rummaging and condom slinging media practicioners.

He had no such problems when Zuma was president ke njalo.

Game of Thrones, they've mentioned time and again that the load shedding reeks of sabotage. It's a pity the conspirators are well sought after chess players. The executive are pawns...

He is truly untouchable...

Blinks?why mustn’t he be removed, why are people protecting a clearly failing minister just like all other ministers whom YOU have helped to be driven out?

Pravin is not a messiah but a trust fund for corruption and selling South Africa.

Don't be stupid! When you say someone must be taken off the field, you must also tell who to bring on the field 😅😂

Is this Pravin God are you telling no other Country man can do his job,

It takes a real deal of a man with serious balls to remove the Almighty Pravin Gordhan.. Pravin is here to stay.

Who removes who? Lol

President is the only one who can take decision to fire any cabinet member , he mustn't allow someone to push him around. He's the president.

RESPECT for Mr Gordhan!!!

When previous board was fired, there was a problem of disruption but they were able to deliver profit and electricity. The new board can't deliver profit and electricity, we can't keep them. They must go.

Whether Pravin stays or goes, it won’t make a difference if Soweto and many other areas don’t pay the Billions outstanding to Eskom.... So we can either play EFFs mind games for another 10 years or address the Elephant in the room... Eskom

He won't move beacause he said he will talk.

Those overrated so called Veterans which no one takes them seriously, love to overplay themselves

VusiSambo He is the Lresident of a country for gods sake , grow a backbone and lead ! FFS it is not that hard ! Soon you will be president of nothing if you don’t act Cyril “the tortoise”ramaphosa !

These people

Lol Pravin is God. When same ppl were asking him to remove Gigba Nene and Zuma did they say the same thing... Shem we don't listen to Old Veterans they must just enjoy their pension

Rubbish these old vets

Phaahla_ Cyril must tell them to piss off with their stupiduty!

Remove Pravin for the good of this country.

KhulaniQoma Not Gordhan's fault for these early power cuts, it's Ramaphosa's. As VP he was given the responsibility of pulling Eskom right six years ago but instead he chose to sit on his fat, lazy arse and do f_ck all. Useless president!

Who are “these people”?

The arrogance of these pensioners party and their government.

What has he done to change what since his return. Point fingers and fail and fail.....hey ban la re ny*la akere..let him go.

WMC makes the beneficiaries heartless

These people

watu68550651 Where were these people when we asked for Thieving JZ to step down, we marched and protested caus5we could see we were heading towards the the cliffs edge. There is obviously an alterior adjenda

I like this...

I pray the crooks to lose this one!

So PG's camp is media 😅

Exactly

'These people' niyadakwa

Pravin must go, as much as Van Rooyen was removed within three days! Let's get leaders who have SA people in their hearts, ready to deliver services to the people, while his/her pockets get fatter from salary, NOT kickbacks!

We want him gone.

These old morons failed to fight the system and they dont want anyone to fight it so we can be rendered failure all of us. They will do everything in their power to defend the white interests so we must not wage war against the WMC because because they have succumbed to it

Shame poor media, they're hurting 🤣🤣🤣🤣

But do you see the President as a man with the guts to can do that ? I don't think so.

Not surprise in your article. I like the saying that says. ' All cannot remain hidden forever' Your darling God and with his bosses will eventually fall. In the end it's the silence that you should be afraid off.

Fuck Gordhan he must just leave I don't care what so special about him just because Ramaphosa fear him.

Cyril mustn't succumb to the demand of criminals masquerading as revolutionaries. They have nothing to offer

They Ramaposa is a small boy,they will shit,Viva cde Gordhan Viva✊

They are testing the waters, he will be out the moment he gives in to this unprecedented demand

What are 'unrealistic' demands? Jobs, fighting corruption, nepotism, fighting drugs.

Mxm useless Veterans... Pravin must Go...

What the hell is going on in this country mara yŕrrrr😡 this media makes me 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮

Which 'these people'

We have told ourselves we can't run government business without him, then we are also saying he is in charge of government affairs,

We are saying there no one out there who would do Gordhan job really sad! I think we still captured, we still being run by outside forces, we still colonized indirectly, it's sad we don't leaders who would stand up for our values.

What's special about this man?really?so everything will stop if this man is not involved?some how black people we don't trust ourselves, in other words we are saying without him everything will collapse, we need to find ourselves black people we are far from believing ourselves

As a technical person myself i see no reason why did they commit themselves on that becos machines are unpredictable not so long ago ford has experience worse becos of new cars that was burning,what more about 39years old eskom systems

Deputy president CR17 Can’t do anything to President Jamnandas

Pravin is going nowhere. Why can't these RET thieves call for the resignation of Ace. He's heavily implicated in corruption & his name has been mentioned by witnesses at the Zondo Commission. Le a tena magodu ke lona. Pravin ga aye gope.

Who is “These People?” 😢😢

Not moving anywhere let's hear the decision of the NEC. We implore the ANC NEC to look at the bigger picture:- * Precedent setting * Narrative pushed by EFF on hatefulness * Man not counted amongst corrupt * Analyse his work versus calls for him to go MYANC CyrilRamaphosa

Dear CyrilRamaphosa Stop making Africans to obey White Monopoly Capital and its dog Jamnandas Pravin Gordhan, you are destroying the country with that useless pharmaceutical thief

Hypocrisy at it's best. The so called 'veteran' defends Jamnands Gordhan at all cost, he doesn't want Eskom_SA failures to be attributed from Gordhan's failures. At the same time he blames previous political leadership and not the Eskom_SA top management as he defends Gordhan.

PravinMustGo

Pravin is crippling the economy with his stage 6 and he's planning to give us stage 10..? PravinMustFall

The white monopoly capital and its media has captured PresidencyZA, this StateCapture2 because this WhiteStateCapture it is okay.

Very same ethical clowns who wanted Zuma to give in to their demands when they wanted some ministers to be chopped and dealt with. Pathetic would be an understatement.

Pravin Must Go

Your jamnadas has appointed 3 failed CEO at eskom in his 2 years as DPE minister. He must go! he failed the country.

SOE were run into the ground before Gordhan took over as PEMinister. So far good steps towards fixing them for the good of all SAfricans. Those who support corruption want him out so the corrupt theft can continue. SA will collapse without strong anti-corruption lead at SOE.

Please respect us

So in other words Failure&Incompetence is only set aside for the likes of Bathabile Dlamini, with the SASSA Fiasco.....but getting us Closer&Closer to the World Banks, Structural Adjustment Program isn't🤔🤔🤔

Which people ?🤔Blacks

Fire incompetent Pravin Gordhan. All other demands can wait just fire Gordhan. He is punching above his at our SOEs.

He will be known as the eff genie 😄😄😄😄

The likes of Msimang and Chikane are extremely dangerous, just look at their current and past shareholding positions and this fake defense comes there

We don't care who that msimang is or was! PravinMustGo

Oh fuckoff

Gordon is not God, he has failed dismally to turnaround the SOE's, his poor performance speaks for itself.

Time for your thinking motor has expired, obsolete, done. You not just embarrassing yourselves, you are embarrassing the platforms!

Need it be spelt out to the ANC veterans to transfer the overdue baton? Why do they insist on sharing the limited oxygen, lest they wish to be called out for their embarrassing and appalling decisions? Can we afford oxygen for the veterans when the youth league is suffocating?

Then the president must keep this useless pharmacist and go down with him. Simple, really

Put the Crooks behind bars, target those all involved in SOE Tenders

and what if Gordhan dies, who will Ramaphosa replace him with, to do your bidding and lead real state capture? I'm sure you have a replacement. Tell us his or her name. Please!

Msimang? Okay before I say what I want to say ... Who is Msimang?

What is Gordhan...a demigod? retire

What about Gigaba,Bathabile,and other comrades like the 2 eff ladies who received funding from ramaphosa?did he explain why they left all this pple were found to have conflict of interests but what so special about pravin as he is failing dearly to solve all the problems he was..

That one old man must concentrate on getting money from his board chairmanship of those companies that undermines sovereign state. He has sold his soul t ok the highest bidder like Pitjane

He already blinked when faced by WMC, wait maybe he didn't he just winked.

CyrilRamaphosa has some serious factional infighting to deal with. Neither I nor pravingordhan are able to help him other than with moral support like wishing our grade 1 child luck in his first soccer game. Good luck Pres..you will need it and all the security you have.

Politics of th stomach.....those who r corrupt r in-charge nw nd thy don't wanna be exposed!!!

Eish this mavuso guy. Only nature can save us

Kikikikikikiki - ok.

Stratcom for God sake stop bullying and lies

These people 🤔

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