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OPINION | The South Africans at the forefront of Operation Dudula are themselves migrants who many centuries ago trekked largely from Central to Southern Africa, writes Ebrahim Harvey.

The South Africans at the forefront of Operation Dudula are themselves migrants who many centuries ago trekked largely from Central to Southern Africa, writesMuch in life, especially in politics, is dependent on the fact that the lessons of history, particularly if learnt timeously and acted upon, can avoid great human anguish, loss, death and

destruction. Arguably, nowhere is this truism more relevant and evident than with the present destructive scourge that xenophobia is in South Africa. But it first raised its ugly head way back in May 2008. So, what has happened since then?Subscribe to News24 for just R75 per month to read all our investigative and in-depth journalism. You can cancel any time.

 

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Ebrahim night be what he writes about but he dares not lump usa all into that

Guys stop reading stories. Block them on your teitter account. boycottNews24 - make it trend. If we do this they will loose revenue, lets hit them where it counts.

Now we have borders and laws and passports.

Every Country has laws and it needs to be upheld always…stop feeding us useless selective history the least you guys could do is to encourage these illegal immigrants to respect out laws please

Stop with your nonsense... We are from here don't tell us of being migrants, if your ancestors were migrants here you better say that not all of use came from the North okay

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Ebrahim Harvey is a brainwashed man who is articulating a distorted history that is perpetuated by the descendants of settlers who have been trying for centuries to belittle us African South Africans we still say no to illegal immigration so our government is failing to stop.

You can do some of us a favour and go back the same way where your ancestors came from.

Fuck this propaganda24!🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂

Nonsense wena

Ebrahim Harvey got tht from some white author surely.. Ebrahim did u ask any black African where Black ppl come from?

Uyanya lowo😠

Foreigners really hate their own countries. They must just go home. We don’t need them in SA🇿🇦. That silly Ebrahim must go to Zimbabwe and tell that to Mnangwagwa. We are sick of listening to foreigners fighting to stay in SA🇿🇦. Go home you aliens. Theory won’t help you.

Did you smoke something

Nonsense 😪 western propaganda. When the Zimbabweans in the 80's told them they want their land back, they told Zimbabweans they migrated from the south meaning S.A. Now they telling South Africans we have migrated from central Africa. Which one is which?

This Harvey o bolaya ke lerete

Its Asians who are migrants in Afrika, this is our land , we can name our kings and Queens long before this Harvey guy descendants thought about Afrika, he must not fuck with us to perpetuate nonsense happening in our country.

There has to be a country for you to be a migrant, this was a wilderness only the Cape was occupied by Khoi Sans

Bathong we have to go that far The entire Southern Africa was first inhabited by the Khoisan. That doesn't just only applies to South Africa. All of it And also Batswana of Northern Cape have Khoi DNA.

The book you read brainwashed you to believe that South Africans are immigrants

Keep your false history to yourself. We have Nguni artefacts in Mpumalanga going as far back 75,000 years. When there was no civilization in those countries you wanna associate us with. We were here first.

Harvey must go and jump in the sea, we don't care. They must go....

In short o bua masepa

Rewriting history huh 😂😂😂😂😂😂 propaganda

Some people just enjoy talking kak !

FreeNhlanhlaLux OperationDudula Fight illegal immigration, lawlessness, Drugs

The writer by his name and surname you don’t need to ask why his thinking is so diluted

Uyanya wena.... Every one who blv this shit is brainwashed... There was not such movement... South African has always been south africans... It is Bullshit history to say ppl moved from central.. What they doing is to distort history so black south african loss land entitlement

This is nonsense!

I have never seen people who will do anything even lie about our citizenship in order not to go home. Things are going to turn ugly in this country. They better leave SA before something terrible happen. Our patience is challenged everyday by foreigners.

Ebrahim Harvey must go back to where he come from,n leave South Africans alone. I'm proudly black South African cheap politics and propaganda won't shake me,I stand my ground all illegal foreigners must voetsek including you Ebrahim

He is talking kaka how can we be illegal in our country of birth News24 stop entertaining shit

That indian my not tell lies unprovoked. We will be polite and only tell him that HIM yes he is a migrant. We are not and will never be.

It’s a different time..

Please maan stop boring us

People are complaining about illegal immigrants and drug lords, what's so difficult to understand about that? Jerr

Musunu!

They naturally stink armpits from birth so asifani. nabo

Divide and conquer!

Who is we?

No propaganda opinion pieces on newspapers is going to derail us. Operation dudula is going nowhere...

Ebrahim Harvey Fotsek... That's all

Desperation kicking in 🤞

Niya wuphemba umlilo

Till today, bo my friend are still planting

That historical fiction is from the Dutch people and the Indians. South Africans are originally from South Africa. It doesn't mean because the Dutch settlers had initial encounters with the Khoisan then the Bantu people were not in South Africa. What an insolence!!!

Most SA’s if you look back in history are migrants…but today it’s whether you have a SA ID document or not that makes you SA. Enough said

The number of foreigners (illegal) in SA is alarmingly high and a ticking time bomb. We can't breathe anymore, our people aren't working. Immigration laws must be applied

Harvey must start by condemning Farm Watch which protects White farmers who believe the police are doing nothing to protect them. He hasn't called them thieves who stole land first. Why? He understands they have to protect themselves where government fails because they're White.

Who the hell is Ebrahim Harvey

They were actually running south to escape the Arab slavers

That p**sy must stalk talking sh*t

This is a lie! This is our Country! Who the F*CK is Ebrahim Harvey?

Ebrahim Harvey is too naive to see the difference between migration and invasion. South Africans are under attack from all sides by foreigners. Besides, South Africa is not for everyone whilst other countries are for their citizens only. Unless we all throw away our RSA IDs

The leader of the Dudula movement is a Dlamini. All Dlaminis are head quartered in Swaziland, their leader being uMswati the dictator. He may be born in SA but his roots are in SWAZILAND.

This is bulldust

Votsek

Africans have NO date of arrival in this continent. Europeans are illegal immigrants from Europe who got their first by colonization, land invasion, slavery and murder of our for fathers

I disagree with Operation Dudula but I don't like this narrative. Africans in South Africa are not migrants.

We dnt care we just want this illegal foreigners out of here

Niyanya nina

Nonsense. Clutching at straws.

tell that Indian Ebrahim Harvey to go teach that nonsense history to Indians in India. We blacks know our history very well!

Fuck that

Nidakiwe ngempela

What a big old mess .

Suk balls 🖕🏽

Nonsense Opinion. We know our history.

Those who came first think they are the rightful owners, do reality check, SA full of Tanzanian people etc

This is not a attack to dudula its an attack to all south africans, if our president has got backbone he was supposed to call these morons to order.. This is an insult of the highest, we are not respected, our cultures, our sovereignty..

What a joke!

Rubbish

Nywe nywe centuries ago. Okay but the SA of today has laws on immigration and citizenship. The natives of this land are sick if being taken advantage of. The legitinate people of SA shall govern, whether you like it or not.

Where was this Ebrahim Harvey, did he see our great great great great grand parents migrating. He is the one who is a migrant. He must just be greatful that he is still here. I am a South African first before an African and I don't give a fuch about Pan Africanism.

Yes and then through that group and those here south Africa was born... its that one group of people saying.. We a part of an economy with tariffs revenues taxes..SA can take an amount of refugees, students, tourists.. but illegals bringing explosives and other drama.. No.

i am xenophobic

Operations dudula take them out

But in the formation of the South Africa today we are subjected from such...this country cannot be subjected to be a global citizen but rather its a sovereign state which has its laws. And if ppl are not abiding we help the state that's all...

Clever move by our ancestors, centuries ago. Yes we have Mzansi now is ours. You can say what ever you want but Mzansi belongs to us.

Ofhie57405558 Tsek, mxm

White media is always going against black South Africans they hate us and they enjoy our suffering

So

Zamani News24 but this we know ukuthi that's kaak,but keep on trying

Botik61945648 I can't believe SA media have someone who is a European and foreign a platform to say this about black south africans who are African living in SA🤮

Western Cape including Cape Town has never belonged to present blacks of SA, even historically. Not a single tribe ever stayed there!

Ah, it's news 24 at the end of the day

JayJayN17 How does someone from Europe tell us about our history?

Holy fuck news 24!!! Wtf is wrong with you!

Botik61945648 We don't care. Illegal foreigners must go home.

Akere you let Europeans and Asians to write your history. Look now

What Ebrahim Harvey wrote is irrelevant, it's just a load of bull. Fact is, we're not living in the 1400s. We're in the 21st century, we have countries that are sovereign states with borders & laws that govern them. SA has citizens, an economy, & resources, to protect.

Xenophobia is the word people who have jobs hide behind to show their glee at those who are unemployed.

I lose respect for anyone who spouts about migration from West or Central Africa in this day and age. That rubbish, crafted to justify colonialism in Southern Africa, is debunked by various scholars. be ashamed for still justifying colonial conquest!

We’re all migrants yokunuka.

He's lying

There really must be a way to stop these nonsense media houses who puplish nonsense for real because some people trust & believe everything written in news outlets.

JayJayN17 What sin did SA commit? 😩😩😭😭

JayJayN17 Why, but why Ebrahim Harvey must laws of entering South Africa be overlooked. Is there any other country in the world where people can just walk and even demand that a democratically elected cabinet minister of that country should resign. Stop taking advantage of our hospitality.

JayJayN17 Tsek! Nonsense opinion!

JayJayN17

Rubbish find another story.

I don't understand why their don't want South African to live in South Africa now their trying to delete our history what nonsense is this

JayJayN17 Mxelele makayeke ukusnyela

So this article is suppose to justify Illegal immigration..Dudula is here to stay

JayJayN17 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Wow!!!!

Even if I hv relatives in zim ,I must have proper documents to go there to visit dudula is about rule of law

What nationality is that Harvey

Central is not enough, where in Africa stupid

Very true

Nonsense

The lies they used to forcefully remove our forefathers from arable land. We are not fools

You speak of things you don’t understand plus your point is stupid.

This Ebrahim Harvey must not be taken serious if we are serious in fighting for our country against illegal aliens

Tell Ebrahim Harvey angasinyeli

The gape in the history of Africans needs to be filled... Forget about this old n young adult anyone this self hate is already deep in their minds, forces on teaching the kids the truth n history of Africans.

Msunu ka Ebrahim Harvey, I'm against dudula but smunu wakhe and his opinion. Whites, Indians, chines and other nationals should stay away from this issue. And they must be reminded that they don't belong in Africa. This is an African issue, Africans will resolve it

Don’t bring us to ur mess n deceit, we travel with passports n respect laws of all other countries in the continent. If we don’t, they deport us back, they don’t talk that jibberish u are spewing here. Each to its own

Yagula wena la ekhanda kugcwele upende

No, we are not all migrants,the rise of nation states within internationally recognised borders, created a new reality, the outside and the inside. We have our South Africa, some have their England. Ancient history doesn't define current reality.

No

Ay voetsek with your smelling relevance

Wow SA is a serious JOKE honestly. If it’s not the constant NONSENSE that is called LEADERSHIP BY THE ANC , OUT RIGHT RACISM FROM OUR PRIVILEGED white SA now it’s this WOW!!

This a rubbish article!

ALETTAHA Truth, most settled here from Central Africa but that's eons ago and history. Countries were formed and governed separately so that plays no role anymore. Legal foreigners aren't the problem. The illegals should be deported.

ALETTAHA Someone needs to tell EbrahimHarvey to shut up if he has nothing to say, he is free to go and look for his ancestors or long lost relatives, we not interested.

Ok Harvey.

Voestek wena Ebrahim. Our great great great great great fathers were born here. Whatever conspiracy theory you might have it will never work.

TSEK!!!!

What a hell is that Ebrahim?

We should stop entertaining this bogus news outlet that is spreading lies

Big lie!

I was waiting for that comment

Never let fact get in the way of the hypocritical agenda of the ignorant. History, if applied, would rob the ANC, EFF, and other radical terrorists of their words

So what ? South Africans are contributing taxes and other sources of revenue for the benefit and betterment of lives of South Africans. The same goes with other countries. OperationDudula PutSouthAficansFirst SouthAfricaForSouthAfticans

Y'all punching air at this point because wft😂😂

If that's the case whats the point of border gates then?

Please don’t state the obvious history here. To these muppets it’s irrelevant.

WTF - where does it begin/end? We all trekked from the Garden of Eden. 🙄

Opinion pieces likes this are very misleading.

Ya neh this operation dudula is exposing the ignorance and stupidity of South African media. Keep writing shit coz u making South Africans who are not fooled by the media see the light and this dudula will grow because of such bullshit.

Tweets like this will only get thumbs up from Juju and his minions.

When a person sheet* with their mouth, Tsek!

As a Zimbabwean and lover of African history i am 100% against this nonsensical propaganda by a land thief cheerleader. Nja yotuvi!

So? It must be free for all

MatayayaBongani My father was in SA in 1937 possible some in Dudula are my siblings and he was very shap when comes to women he took 2 South Africa women with him to Zimbabwe 😅😅😀.

Viva Khoisan

People should enter South Africa according to the laws, perhaps international law of immigration

That we moved from Central Africa does not mean that the Law guiding the movement of people amongst African states does not have to apply in South Africa. That is not fair what is uttered here

Basotho from Lesotho who naturalised here now want to chase away other Africans mxm

I'm just shocked why we still consume news from these establishments that are dictated to.

U Harvey waphi lowo?

Yes they trekked and founded nations which have territories and rules and laws like every other nation. Not that it's any of your business even, Ebrahim.

FADDA GAWD. now u sound like Afriform and some colonized in the minds Kullids

Failed misdirection. Nobody is debating that. We're demanding today's law be applied. We've millions of economic migrants in an SA with 50% unemployment, infrastructure failure, poverty & crime epidemic. All made far worse by this migrant issue Spare us the history lesson.

Tsek

We know! We're not against foreigners. In fact, we need skilled immigrants to grow the economy. We're against illegal foreigners Did u know children of illegal foreigners born in 🇿🇦 can become 🇿🇦 citizens? Where's the tax money 2 feed them? PutSouthAficansFirst OperationDudula

Not one person who is alive today trekked anywhere many centuries ago. Their ancestors might have done so, but that’s not the same thing.

Heee banna lol🤭😂😂😅

People should know their history

That is true.

Empty land pseudo science again. EbrahimHarvey

Don't we have borders, did I come or go to another country without a passport,do I enter and stay in another country illegally, am I staying in South Africa illegally. If your answer to the above in NO then you don't have a reason to tell me about coming from another country.

We have always been here, we don’t even look like them! We’re yellow bones, short and our women are full figured...bona on the other hand 😭😭 flat heads, dark...like blackest of the black, their women wear size 12 shoes

Just go back to where you belong and stop talking nonsense

So what?

Ebrahim Harvey is a migrant not me,we are disrespected not they want to legitimise their helpers at our expense, beneficiaries of illegal immigrants are out in full force

Useless piece This will not deter the people from fighting for the constitution to be upheld specifically immigration laws

Those years everyone was trekking. What's your point?

Let me seat here and sell Bitcoin like those who comment 1st unbothered there's violence to come

Lol

They keep pushing this narrative to make themselves feel better and so they can say we are all foreigners. Nothing will change the fact that this is our land and are from here. You can write one million articles or opinion pieces, a fact is a fact is a fact.

What a shit argument.

We have no connection with the people that we separated with centuries ago. Obama's father was a Kenyan and his family is still there that is why he visits sometimes. Many of us do not have relatives anywhere in Africa so we are not related.

Same can be said for almost the entire country

This is about Black People... We can write our own stories

Niyanya straight 🤞

everybody trekked from somewhere and ended up somewhere...it cant only be south africans!

This is really dumb, fok. It must be nice to be this privileged. People just don't want to understand what this movement is about, especially those who are benefiting from the influx of illegal immigrants.

Do not fuel the fire already burning....

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