In a series of sit down interviews with former presidents. Anchor Aldrin Sampear speaks to F.W De Klerk, Olusegun Obasanjo, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf and others. Courtesy
“... because of bad appointments made in the nine lost years, inter alia, of cadres, instead of people with the right experience, with the right training into management posts.
Is this the damage your talking about!?!
For minority yes I agree.
Msoon wakhe lo de Klerk wakhona
eNCA doesn't even respect itself at this point
Can we finally take back his Nobel Prize now?
AldrinSampear what time is this program on telly. I want to hear others Obasanjo and Johnson.
yes for few
Entrenchment of self hate
Zuma did not damage ZA prior 1994 whites looted the country quietly ka nako tsa Codesa and sold everything even moved and closed some companies and assets to each other n left a lot of money as the wealth of ZA ask Mbeki.
Honestly someone should have advised him to stay out of the media and just die in peace. They must withdraw the nobel peace prize. Better for who? 😡
Sickening... I heard an old white man say, “things were better when we were in charge” I used to greet him every morning now I just walk past him like he ain’t there. There was ABSOLUTELY nothing better n wena eNCA stop peddling rubbish n give us actual News!!
And let me guess, agrees.
Nonsense
Mare it is true...now VBS & EFF?
Ufa nini kant lo..... Sathane doesn't die easily nyan
Lots of truth in this. Everything worked and not just for whites. Blacks had free medical we paid. The buses and trains ran etc etc.
Obviously because u were only serving whites and not everyone else 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️
Please refrain from glorifying Apartheid Evil system
Greg7Dunn Just put yourself in the position of a re-visiting alien that has to report back to his civilization without any favor of race. 1st visit around 1989 second visit around 2019. What would he report on the living conditions now compared to the conditions in the 1990s?
Better for who? He banna!😠
For him naboBroer bakhe yes I'm sure...To hell with the rest of us I guess🙄
Corruption was prevalent during apartheid its just that Media was censured and journalists were oppressed. So he saying Apartheid was good?
THE JOKES THE JOKES THE JOKES THEY'RE SENTIENT AND WRITING THEMSELVES
Former president of apartheid says that things were better during apartheid! No suprising at all. But why does he still get airtime ?
Maybe because the black majority were not allowed to it use the same public services that were reserved for the select white population 🤷🏾♀️. Now stop gaslighting us!!! Apartheid was wrong PERIOD
Why is that guy being given air time ? Every time his name appears in the media it should be prefixed with Apartheid, oppressor or something that makes clear his contribution to our history. NeverForget
? No one is trying to hear what the former dutch president has to say about our here land Souda.
Yo, have you guys contracted the Our_DA PR team to ruin your brand too? Or have you just decided that you no longer want to be taken seriously.
When he says Zuma damaged SA he means he damaged it for racists who still want to practice their racism and continue looting undisturbed!
Why you keep saying former president ? His former president for who? 0
This is the truth but its incomplete.. he shld have said it was better for whites and for blacks there is no goodpublic service or better life to talk about under apathied rule
It was better for him and his white people. South Africa is not worse now than it was in the apartheid era, it just gotten better for the few blacks and I think that is what pisses the whites off.
He is the last person to comment about Zuma, Africans were killed under his watch...
This is just a toilet property, it belongs there. Not for human consumption
Was definitely much better thn how it is since anc took over
Better for who?....
Former president yabobani ?
Fok ngaye helping him clear his conscience fok hes got blood on his hands. The only black people who forgave him are the ones who Got rich from selling out black people
Better for whom?
But why do we still elicit this man's opinion on matters of the state? And who's former president is he man's presidency was illegitimate. Kaloku he was elected by a minority in elections that were not free and fair.
Life for who? White South Africa Maybe And one cannot just say 'public services'. The public administration was fragmented and the administrations of the homelands was near shit... Mxm so much B.S
They were not better but limited to ppl living in urban areas.and blacks were isolated those staying in rural areas.delivering was easy if it was meant for white now we are talking about the whole nation that you were not catering for🖕🏿just shut up Madala
They were not better but limited to ppl leaving in urban areas.and blacks were isolated those staying in rural delivering was easy if it was meant for white now we are talking about the whole nation that you were not catering for.🖕🏿
🤦🏾♀️ hayi ahh. Why South Africa Why? Former apartheid president's wilding out here. Shem.
Yha to be honest he is telling the truth
White people in South Africa are embarrassed about everything in the country (South Africa) except apartheid and its legacy.
Then why did you make the democratically elected party of 94 pay your debt to the IMF?
Zuma this Zuma that.
If you think you are pissed off now, wait until this man dies and gets an official state funeral paid for by you.
I partially agree with him
Better for who ?
What a heap of hogwash is this mlungu speaking ?
Who cares what de clerk says,🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
He would say that, wouldn't he? The services were better for which people exactly?
obviously public services and service delivery were better because y’all only provided them for the minority 🙄
Why isn't that old racist in jail to begin with?
Akakafi na lo? Yhaz mdicinga nizothi ufile mnxxxxxxm
Former aparthied president
1. Former president yakupi? 2. Who really cares what this unrepentanting devil's toe nail has to say? My take here is that is trolling us.
Reading all the replies; something comes to mind; We really need a government that can deal decisively with the atrocities of this Non-Africans or this Nie-Afrikaners. This people can never be left unpunished. It cannot be.
Uyanya loyo
De Klerk is delusional.
Apartheid President
Yes! Because it was for the select few.
This is what happens when you refuse to bring your oppressors to justice.
Bathong!
is also disrespecting black people. By calling this one a former president, larenyela lona!
Eish lotata nguye owakhulula uMadiba entongweni nabanye. Apartheid has murdered a lot of black poeple. ANC murdered a lot of black people, Marikana Masscar, Andries Tatane and many more. That we cannot forget in the history of this country.
Apartheid government made a mistake by implementing segregation. South Africa wouldn't be where it is today. We all creatures of God. Sorry Mr de Klerk you should have changed things around destroy all those silly laws by your elders.
Agreed
simaxis Are all government hospitals better now? Nobody can say they are. Health care facilities have certainly got much worse for all. Anyone who says other wise never went to the hospital s in days gone by. Wherever they were
Bogafi Mo. Then they give the guy a Nobel prize for peace
and we're still benefiting from aparheid infrastructure
As to why this one is not in orange overal we shall never know
Former President starts with NELSON MANDELA. WE do NOT recognise this one.
B*tch what ?!!!
Hy praat kak, only for white people. He is not former president, who elected him,only white people.
100%. What did the Democratic South African Government achieve?
I agree, I live across a Hospital and the service was superior in the 90s now it's just a sorry excuse for a Hospital, a teacher was once the CEO of the hospital
i bet he loved waking up and ordering the killing of people in the townships who were fighting for freedom. Man should be in jail but he is out here talking bulldust.
Jy bleskop is n fokin traitor hou jou kak opienies vir jouself
Thanks to the so called liberators MYANC
Only a sick mind of a racist genocide crime against humanity. Perpetrator
Can he just die?
Why are we not like Germany because I mean I don't get how we forgive so deep we go back for more bullshit. I don't understand, did the system really put us in that much deep sleep that we are even immune to triggers from Apartheid presidents?
The cocasity.... Yeeer
Let's be realistic about what DE Klerk has said and in the same breath, let's also be realistic about how non-whites were treated during apartheid.
Should he be talking publicly? I’ve been grappling with this one. Should we give this man a voice in democratic SA? Please can we discuss cause I just don’t know if he should be given a platform to voice his opinions about government
FW de klerk is talking about and To whites! Why are we (blacks) entertaining this? Nna I am Not going to respond to his comments! Less said the better.
Yes.. Simply because the regime was taking care of white minority
This is absurd
That's so true
This are individual who should never be given a chance to speak their talk nonsense what was better, they gave him noble Peace prize for rubbish
Who keeps giving the man an ear... Black folk are playing catch up and and and..
GayMenSA And to think you FW handed SA, on a silver platter, to a terrorist organisation, a criminal syndicate of looters. Slow clap to you..... Instead of negotiating a democratic transition with those black parties who wanted SA success YOU chose a corrupt bunch of selfserving thugs.
Only on one condition - better for him and the minority💀💀💀
Lenja le.
Black people were excluded on those government services .
Mxmm 🙄
Yes for white skin. He is correct.... 💩💩💩
anyway BEE is for the connected crooks like apartheid system yafana lezinto
No question about it, period
Why do we still give this guy a platform . . .
Surely we are being trolled, here.
Better for a few privileged white South Africans but definitely not for the majority of people of color systematically segregated and disenfranchised from quality socio-economic services afforded to a few whites.
Better, only for a specific skin type? 🤔🙄
For who?
We told dem BHEKI IS HIS FRIEND they are sharing platform with his insulting Zuma. We hv been telling them this man don't like black ppl.
U c. We told anc stooges then wt. Check this stooge is insulting them and dey were happy whn he his attacking. C nw he's free to insult back ppl.
He's referring to the level of efficiency. Things actually got done!
ANC made it possible for these apartheid scumbags to be so openly arrogant and racist.
Totally agree with him. This black apartheid government must go learn from De Klerk.
You guy's really need to stop giving airtime to people with apartheid hangover. That system was only better for the minority it was designed for.
Better for who? Idiot.
Better for whom 👀
better for who thou..
Who knew de Klerk has a sense of humour. If only he smiled more. PS: Surprised the DA hasn't teamed him up with Tony, even more surprised he has the nerve to think he'll be taken seriously as a man who ordered the slaughter of 12 year-olds. Ah! Well! That's SA for you
Ifa nini lenja
Who TF keeps interviewing this guy!! FFS!!!
God knows 2 things we wouldn't have is the guptas n magashule if it was still apartheid era thts for sure
Jah my leader for selective individuals,especially not for blacks. We know that the MYANC is making life better for their own Comrades,hence our country is in a mess.
This is a fact for several known and specific instances, but is it a valid generalization? (And especially for fuzzy concept 'life'.)
Who's life?
Sies.
Bull 🤔
Not surprised that WMC StratCom eNCA is giving this mass-murderer a platform to blow hot air! Sies! This is the result of the fake rainbow nation & fake reconciliation!
I wonder why he thinks this?
To Hell with de klerk!!
You are bound to say that because most of state resources were used to service the minority. Our politicians are greatly contributing to our social ills but for De Klerk claim that they were batter is an insult to most blacks who were victims of apartheid.
I guess he is right, he is white after all, it was working for them, but such comments I find them as abukela phansi the democracy the country has now.
He did better?
Why is this man still being interviewed?
Oh please 🙄 for who
For the minority yes but not for the owners of the country. They made do with scraps from the Whites' table
Didn’t read the article but he is talking nonsense
He doesn’t even belongs to public opinion space but Sun City!
True
100% public services were better than this fucking ANC government
Do you still call this msunu former president
e NCA, is playing mind games people. Its near election time, they want that negative response from each of us, let it not sway our thinking if making correct decisions.
Theta ikaka.
We don't need his opinion by the way
To white people because they shared all the resources among themselves and they were a minority... Uthini lona...
That's true Mr colonizer life was good for White 😭😭😭
Waze wawakhuluma amasimbha 😔
U Msunu.
An element? It is a whole continental weather system!
You are entertaining BS.of course it was for you still is though,you have no reason to complain.
Masepa a De klerk
It sounds about white
Mr. De Klerk it was mostly cater for a few which you know. Millions of other races where excluded. U are the only one that knows that truth. After 1994 you sit back & critize. Yes SA has gone back but many things has been achieved & many more needs to be done.
Well growing under apartheid i can say i agree with you FW when it comes to service delivery your govt was evil but excellent service delivery
Typical white man
Absolutely services was better, all of it!
I am black and grew under that era he is 100% CORRECT
Apartheid president FW de Klerk says life and public service was better for white people during apartheid. Even that would be a rotten lie. Democracy has benefited white people far more than apartheid ever did. The wealth gap is wider and they are in the lead. So asseblief.
Truly, What made life better during apartheid? Living in perpetual fear of being killed, arrested? Being raided early hours of the morning,thrown at the back of vans half naked? Women not allowed to own houses? As a woman to own a house you needed a man. What’s better about that?
You are 110% right Mr DE klerk.
Siyanyelwa apha mos. He will get a State funeral at our expense when he dies?
Services were better under Mandela. A disaster under Zuma
That is the opinion of eNCA I believe.U and de Klerk are mad.
Better for who He has lost his mind just like Helen
Mxmm
Who else to give him a platform than the one an only eNCA, the regrouping of racists
Uyasdakelwa lomgodoyi
Better for whites yes, did he ever observed the so called services provided in townships, farms and rural areas?
Clear score must be the MOST STUPID ADVERT EVER
Tell this one msunuwakhe
So Mr De Klerk please tell us what you know about the alleged child abuse on Bird island whilst you being so honest....
Well of course life was better for whites under Apartheid! 🙄 Over 80% of state resources were dedicated to them & Blacks had less than 10%. It comes as no surprise that the last Apartheid President is always defending Apatheid, eventhough it was declared a crime against Humanity
He needs to just shut up.
9 years of Zuma gorv you compare it with 100 years of your party. Come on your forgot so fast about Bantu education,10 km travel to school,100 km to find a clinic,police station and clinic. I forget to mention your life style against us in towns,shopping complex and terreblanch
The man who's hands are clean of killing our people
It maybe true for white people not Black People
Under apartheid there was no roads,clinics,schools and hospitals around rural areas around SA. How long apartheid gorv rule SA and cater only whites. SA is big and NP failed for almost 100years. ANC take charge only for years and most of the rural areas have tar roads,clinics etc
Here we go again!
Seat down please
Maaka fela a mokgalabje! Gaa!
Whose former president is this?
Better for whom, how was it wasted? This is showing that Mr De Klerk had no issue with how people were treated during the apartheid.
Why does the media care about what this evil ancestor is saying?
And you guys really allowed this one to share a Nobel prize with Madiba
This is verbal diarrhea
True, the element of truth is tht life& public services were better for the minority preferred WHITE population The public services available to the black population were meant to further Apartheid interests SOWETO wasn't in the best interests of blacks, bt a reserve labour camp
He's got a point bcz them as white people they were fully supporting one a another, unlike this stupid black government who's struggling to deliver just a drop of water to the black communities
For whites maybe
With the amount of coverage you are giving this murderer I am beginning to think that he is advocating your views but you aren't brave to say them publicly
Better for who
Only for whites
For who?
Why is SA media still taking inputs/opinions from this man?
There weren’t transparent in form of the public protector and audit reports
I as a black citizen, I will say I never had life by then.
Hawu, kanti usaphila
Le a tena
FW De Klerk was never our president, we didnt vote for this evil person....We dont care if he lives or not.....Talks or silent....
Like it or not, it's true. Bad thing was the treatment and oppression of the black population. Education was far better for all though, except that Afrikaans forced on black people. Health services were better too. Police were not so fat and the SADF was the strongest in Africa.
He forgot his government was providing service for a minority of SA population. ANC government has almost everyone (majority) dependent on them. Actually his opinion is not needed.
For white people YES
He is correct. Our country is a mess
Haha push pull view. Typical be carefull what you say or not so sure anymore statement. Off course it was irrespective why and various reasons.
Let me fix it for you...
But after all this is what happens when people are not held accountable for their actions and are forgiven without asking for forgiveness. The become daring and start to think their actions were justified.
FWdeKlerkFoun should be specific. Life and services were better under apartheid FOR WHITES ONLY.
Idioot!!
Well they only provided services for less than 10% of the population so of course this is true in that context. But there is no disputing service delivery is appalling right now whatever way you look at it!
Lock him up immediately!
Yazi siyanyeleka.
Msunu wakhe
Probably for white ppl
Ra nyelwa mo. In our own country nogal
Better for who?
Ooohh because we called them baas n madam?
Why is he not behind bars?
Not an element, a fact, certainly as far as most services were concerned.
uyanya ke lona manje
Wanya, why is this thing even allowed to talk kak in public
True
Thats true
The state of our public hospitals continues to deteriorate exponentially. That's a fact.
'life' and 'better' in the same sentence as 'apartheid' while referring to black people. What flavor of utter rubbish is this?
Actually FWdeKlerkFoun social media was not that active when u and gang were in charge! All the crap ull fed the ppl! Ppl is cing through that sh1t now! Bit late but thy c nw! maroelamedia IOL SowetanLIVE SABCNewsOnline
Which public services to begin with? In my area community did things for themselves, built things for themselves. Which services is he talking about. Who ever was interviewing him was not well briefed. Its is this kind of journalists that make villians heroes. Ask questions
Zuma is one person, and almost forgotten to many. De Klerk must remember and never ever forget what SA is now is a direct result of apartheid...you don't have to look far for proof, many people still live in that ideology to this day, mentally captured and manipulated for life.
Msunu
Better for who? There wasn’t any better services in the townships, there were no Tarred roads, Houses were full of un employed people. School shortages, dumpling sites every street corner. Polluted air because families had to use coal stoves to cook, how was life better then?
It was better for him and his people and still is,together with those in top leadership in government jobs.
Well, 200 black mental patients weren’t ever murdered under apartheid.....
We dismiss these claims with contempt it deserves, man is suffering from ageism coupled with exclusion ideas
MYANC damaged South Africa!!
Tell me now, who goes to FW de Klerk to hear what his opinion is? I think the problem here is the person who goes to ask for his opinion
Better for who ?...
Fuck de Klerk I don’t there’s any black person who respects him anyway so basically this is written for white people
Here we go again with this rhetoric. Why De Klerk didn't go to jail for black genocide?
I agree with this man at least everyone had a job
The problem is that those public service where made for white people
Hebana how was life better then? I mean the audacity nje! The nerve to even...
De Klerk is quite correct, public services were excellent for whites while they was horrible for black people!
Mr FW De Klerk ,u should really be ashamed of urself....u evil system r the course of the mess/pain we going through as the country,u have no right say jerk about the state of this shut ur mouth sir.
Mara,why do villains live long kanti.....is either God Ke sgoa or they are a necessity to balance society...y can't this Nobel peace Fcuk just die
Wanya wena Zuma is our problem not yours. Votsek
Finish your sentences ' for white people in South Africa because townships were burning daily, blacks burying their loved ones, fighting white domination and apartheid.
look who is talking 😂
A racist government isn't something to look at when talking about better things.. Try again
Stupidity at its best
Kanti When is he dying. Ayife lenja nothing good about apartheid.
Ya for you white peoples
Why. Cos it was secluded. de Klerk must go jump.
Of course they were, for white people.
Mxm Maretao
This all Masepary!
I am increasingly hearing the same assertion from those who were alive during Apartheid.
WaSwele One of the reason i will be voting for EFFSouthAfrica is my hope of seeing deklerk jailed for his crimes.
WaSwele Atleast they were enjoying their loot in the suburbs. Our brother show of their loot at our door steps.
Uyanya nje lo mtyholi
It was better for whites 😡, can't believe this guy is saying this
Comments here proves 30% pass rate.
For whites yes not for the majority of citizens
Even Julius Malema can agree to this
I at pap and eggs this morning
Better for whom ? For blacks was worst you had to pay for every service .We never enjoyed free education,water,sanitation, health then you say it was better .I agree with those who say we have to ask for justice against apartheid govt they keep on justifying apartheid
I put it to you that economically all races are better off in the new dispensation. We should build this country. De Klerk should be taken to Equality Court for glorifying Apartheid, which was declared by the UN as a crime against humanity.
Ey bhunuza quiet you samamabishi!
La mmona wa nnyela
Just an element?
U r de reason i will forever vote ANC bcoz it has taken us out of ur cage and misery. and u r de last person to give opinion about our government no matter how bad it is but dey r not killing anyone
Only the eDA news will show such
See why he wasnt suppose to be given the Noble peace prize. People died he is still walking and no jail tome spent and he says this. Makgowa a lapisa bathing. He left the country bankrupt and couldn't say what was the debt. Mxm
For Whites, he is right because he still thinks black don't deserve good public services
He and every president before him suppressed people for decades, your decisions are the direct result of the hate and racism people today are dealing with. Your govt's created hate between black and white and brainwashed whites that black people were a threat to society.
Late signs of dementia. Nothing to see here. Let it be. Last kicks.
Former president ? Who democratically elected him?
Do you share the same sentiments MmusiMaimane as your political ancestor?
Say a killer, how profound
It was, for white people
Ya for white people wat about the people killed by apartheid government was it better for them
Remember gvt resources wr only catering for the few, therefore was not strained. Now we r talking of everyone! Wr r the roads, clinics, safe water, toilets in the rural areas that they provided? Dololo! So wat better/safe r u talking abt?
25yrs of tryn to build a country that took 300yrs to destroy and come back and blame it on the ANC if you say corruption well it's not a new thing its not right ofcourse but every young democracy has its hurdles and it's jsut 1of them so Mr de clak should just chill
Why do we keep entertaining this fool?
Yes it was for the whites because thats what apartheid government cared about, the white people
Yeah he damaged his own country
Better for white people __
And you you agree with his view that's you go him a platform you write about each nd every 2min
You can’t be serious?!! Have we really stooped that low
Maybe because there were less people to cater for dude🙃
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