As goes Ramaphosa, so goes the ANC

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If President Cyril Ramaphosa is forced to step down as leader of the ANC over Phala Phala, the party's downward spiral will accelerate; it could split up and it will probably fare dismally in the 2024 elections, writes william_gumede.

If President Cyril Ramaphosa is forced to step down as leader of the ANC over Phala Phala, the party's downward spiral will accelerate; it could split up and it will probably fare dismally in

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william_gumede So let it be...kanti ngabanjani okumele ba step down or step aside that means your semi god is immune to the law and the constitution that he should be uphold...

william_gumede 😂🤣😂🤣😂

william_gumede SA will continue to deteriorate while ANC is in power. No one will invest in SA as long as they are there.

william_gumede It will fare dismally anyway. They can't even keep distributing patronage to their blessees.

william_gumede Most SAns are gonna vote 🗳 for Freedom Front/FF letla bona spoko sa motshegare🤣🤣

william_gumede Did he steal State funds? Please just give this man a break, nx.

william_gumede So goes Mzansi, nxm

william_gumede In short, this article is downright waffle.

william_gumede Gumede ubhema ini vele?🤔

william_gumede We don't care

william_gumede It's already split under him, just not yet manifested. But you are wrong Gumede, there are other leaders who are visionaries in the in the interest of the majority. They must be in a coalition, many of us don't want them to be comfortable in 2024.

william_gumede Heaven forbid that the RET faction comes in, then the country would spiral into anarchy with corruption excelerate unabated

william_gumede Actually if I was him I would voluntarily step down since the accusations against him make no sense I should just form a party that will opposes anc since eff is not there for South Africans

william_gumede We really dont care..... how are you supposed to love something that doesnt even care ofyou exist, how you support your family, how you move from A to B, how you see in the dark, etc etc.... what an abusive relationship!!!!

william_gumede Good 👍🏿

william_gumede If that happens what will we the poor South Africans loose. Maybe it’s what we need a new chance at true freedom with them gone. Even if the don’t loose, what good will we get, more problems in the rainbow 🌈 nation. Who realised rainbow don’t include black colour?

william_gumede Your duty is to report and not emotionally blackmail us with sympathy to Ramaphosa and ANC. He must GO

william_gumede Stop this reverse psychology

william_gumede Ramaphosa Must Fall, period, he lied to the Nation of South Africa on many occasions

william_gumede I think it time for the ANC to hand power to a party that can manage this country in a proper and economically stable environment. They are not fit to run a country, the facts are there. ANC must go, it is about economic survival and stability without corruption, please go.

william_gumede Uyanya

william_gumede That will be a golden opportunity for julius malema and eff to win 🏆 it.

william_gumede ANC is ruling the country anti clockwise. Everything is deteriorating under this government, because everyone who preside over the country is ruling a lie. Saying this and doing the opposite.

william_gumede If the ANC membership and leaders really care so much abt the ANC, they wouldn't be pushing so much for a 2nd term for Cyril. At the pace the ANC is going, 2024,they will be slaughtered🤞

william_gumede He is writing rubbish ke lowo, nimtshele ukuthi usibhalela udoti... Regards

william_gumede What a blessing that would be!

william_gumede Habashwe!

william_gumede Tell William to voetsek and stop spreading nonsense propaganda!

william_gumede Wishful thinking 🙄!! You’re annoying

william_gumede About time that real democratic elections, not 'hosted' by the so called IEC, (who pay their salaries?) Anyhow... That's who decides who sits in what positions... That's our current 'democratic' system. Bought by ANC with CIT money back in the '90 ies..To bad Collin Chauke died..

GloriaKhuzwayo william_gumede phalaphalafatmgate is not the only scandal Cyril is facing. glencore, marakana, Eskom, bosasa, cr17, cupcake,... The list is too long, the guy must resign and face the music

william_gumede Anyone, will give an undertaking: 'The people shall share in the county's 'Wealth' or forget.

william_gumede Go try another scare tactic asb!

william_gumede William Gumede, isn't that a good thing given the failures SA has endured under ANC? Fair question

william_gumede They should be taken out of power. They crumble one man's ideas of a democratic and upward moving country, instead they chose corruption and added policies that are almost crippling this beautiful country.

william_gumede We are all hoping this criminal syndicate will disintegrate. What will happen is that the RET rats will partner with the EFF to continue the looting. Opposition parties should be strong. To save South Africa we, who love SA, should work towards an alliance without the EFF&ANC.

william_gumede As far as I am concerned it could spiral up/down I don't care,this bull has got to go.

william_gumede Please tell me are cows really so expensive. I am a vegetarian I don't know but surely meat cannot be so expensive. What kind of beef is that and who can afford that.Boy o Boy.

william_gumede Laat jy loop maan, yerr. What's special about him ANC will be stronger with out this person who voted himself into power while people vote for ANC.

william_gumede Time for 🇿🇦 to wake up!!!

william_gumede The ANC's track record as a governing party proves that its useless. Zuma crippled the country and CyrilRamaphosa pulled the plug on a country that was on life support.

william_gumede Give President Ramaphosa a break wait until you get the facts I thought journalists had to deal with facfs.ease give us the truth don't guesstimate. Would you like us to do it to you

william_gumede A lame Duck....

william_gumede That's what we want

william_gumede Voetsek media

william_gumede 😂😂😂😂😂🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮 The Rubbish you tweet SundayTimes it's a shame

william_gumede And Zuma is still walking around scot free...I wonder what the connection is🤔

william_gumede As would go this sacred country.

william_gumede PhalaPhalaFarmGate

william_gumede I'm not sure it's the ANC you worried about I think you more worried about WMC cabal might lose it's power if their 'boy' is removed

william_gumede I'm not sure it's the ANC you worried about I think you more worried about WMC cabal might lose the it's power

william_gumede So you mean he can basically do whatever he wants kill if he wants to because 'ANC will downspiral' should we hold him accountable

william_gumede Let it fail dismally, CHANGE is painful. But this cannot go on.

william_gumede Come 2024 will mark the new leading party . ANC doesn't have the hopes of the youth and never did

william_gumede Ignoring that he's probably the worst thing to ever happen to that party

william_gumede The better ANC is gone. Once and forall

william_gumede if a criminal is their best foot forward then they leave a lot to be desired...

william_gumede That would still be good for this country. They must all go!!!!😠

william_gumede That will be good for the country. Let ANC die for good

william_gumede Those who are making noise that the president must be forced to vacate office are the thieves whose ways of stealing public funds were blocked since Ramaphosa became the president.

william_gumede Let’s hope so

william_gumede Perfect that's what is actually required to mend a critically mauled country.

william_gumede Nonsense, who is ramaphosa after all?is he bigger than anc. You and your ramaphosa should go to hell. Anc was there long before his parents made him

william_gumede Le bua masepa.

william_gumede I think it's time for the ANC to change it's constitution so that they will be able to recall people's favourite if they want to survive the 2024 onslaught. If they can defend Ramaphosa, they can also defend whatever action they can take to save the party. Just saying.

william_gumede So let it be...kanti ngabanjani okumele ba step down or step aside that means your semi god is immune to the law and the constitution that he should be uphold...

william_gumede Small correction to the headline, 'When President Cyril Ramaphosa is forced to step down as the leader of the ANC over PhalaPhalaFarmGate, the party's downward spiral will accelerate: it will split up and will fare dismally in the 2024 elections.' There, fixed it for you! 🙄🙄🙄

william_gumede Never only this kak Ramatsotsi you are protecting you CAPTURED MEDIA, will leave ANC.

Briantkhumalo william_gumede Angimufuni Ramaphosa I will go to make spoil vote if if is coming as anc face

william_gumede Cyril has nothing on ANC,bring any leader now and see how it will perform,Cyril is nothing and not popular

william_gumede The ANC is already on a downward spiral. With or without CR. Infact the whole cabinet must go. RSA has no quality cabinet personel right now!!!!

william_gumede That would be great.

william_gumede He must step down the ANC will move on leading the country! Remember that he will be not the first President to resign but the ANC is still in power!

william_gumede ANC will survive. PhalaPhalaGateFarm

william_gumede I'm ready with my poster to protest in the street against ANC incompetence. They are taking SA backwards very fast. Where are we going to protest in Joburg? The ANC should step down!!

william_gumede A factional news paper we do not care GaytonMcK will hold that position till 2024 let ranko step down and go to prison for money laundering , kidnapping and abusing state resources

william_gumede A very Thuma-minionic analysis and prediction! 🤣

william_gumede There is no ANC anymore what is is left now is the confusion amongst the leaders of the anc. They fight each other to stay in power and continue looting our tax money.

william_gumede May the ANC just 'die' before 2024 We need Secession

william_gumede Ramabillioner is not ANC he muat step down

william_gumede The ANC is bigger than 1 alleged criminal. Cyril must go.

william_gumede The break up of the very corrupt and incompetent ANC will be good for SA. Look at how well the Western Cape is run by the DA compared to areas run by the ANC. It is clean and well maintained. The ANC is incapable of running anything, stealing and incompetence rules

william_gumede We don't care what happens to the ANC if he steps down. Let him go.

william_gumede Wonderful

Mo25263 william_gumede In terms of electoral support, the downward spiral started with CR.

william_gumede The ANC wont win in 2024🤞🏻

william_gumede Good riddance kunan pho... Nisifunza uSilili ngenkani

william_gumede Voetsek he must step down and there is nothing will happen to ANC in fact it will improve and grow without Ramalaundered!

william_gumede Constable Sabela is done!

william_gumede let it be . you must go down along with him

william_gumede Let it be

william_gumede The downward spiral of ANC is what the country needs to survive

william_gumede Sounds fantastic

william_gumede No ways wenze nton na URamza madoda?

william_gumede Bye bye all

william_gumede Lol fools

william_gumede The party will do well without him...

william_gumede There is no such... DD must just take over untill 2024.

william_gumede Step down

william_gumede Good news indeed

william_gumede Lies. He's the one killing the ANC. They should get rid of him before it is too late.

william_gumede Kak, no one is bigger than the ANC. Cyril must just fucken go.

william_gumede A planted spy is MYANC awuphuphi kodwa , from 57% to 46% next will be 30% if GwedeMantashe1 is protecting this criminal

william_gumede So CyrilRamaphosa alone is 62% of MYANC who voted for Zuma . Him 57% to 46% Nationally in local gorvement elections He is killing MYANC PhalaPhalaGateFarm RamaphosaMustGo

william_gumede Voetsek

william_gumede Either way ANC must step aside. South Africa is drowning with them in power.

william_gumede To God's ears ...

william_gumede Tsek😡😡😡😡😡

william_gumede The best thing that could happen to SA is the anc collapse and the DA win and the people hold them to account !!!

william_gumede Futsek, he must step down! His the worst MYANC President. PhalaPhalaGate

THEVOIC70931309 william_gumede Was the fake arrest of the Guptas to deflect from the ANC woes ..

william_gumede Tell us something brand new 🥱 The ANC has been splitting over the years as such we can't let a pathological president continue to lead our country when his own party resolutions say these things

william_gumede I couldn't say it better than u Prof Gumede.

MtshaliGumbi william_gumede That would be a happy day for South Africans🥳🥳🥳CyrilRamaphosa PhalaPhalaGateFarm

william_gumede Since Ramaphosa became a president voting numbers of the ANC are going down local n national elections so he must fusek

william_gumede DD,Lindiwe Sisulu, Ace, Lesufi are there and others

william_gumede 😂😂😂😂😂 you guys mara

william_gumede 57% ye president lena😂

william_gumede Udakiwe wena William. There was a well functioning ANC before this disaster called CyrilRamaphosa

william_gumede Udakiwe William

william_gumede Media is trying, we won't fall for that, no one can do worse than Cyril. Even my son can do better

william_gumede You got all that wrong we will be victorious and we will be more stronger without him he is like a virus to the ANC

william_gumede Your only problem is to assume that the majority is ignorant. We know what's happening.

william_gumede Let it be ramavirus must step aside noma kanjani ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

william_gumede Capturers in defensive mode!

william_gumede That would be good

william_gumede Ah fuck, thought he stepped down.

william_gumede They a'int see nothing yet. They are dismal as we speak. 2024 spells the final death of this movement we trusted so much. This bunch have turned our beloved SA into a failed state where corruption and lies are the order of the day. South Africans are broken.

william_gumede Fighting someone who is not fighting it's a waist of time and stupidity, He's calm and he's not panicking at all.

william_gumede Who cares about ramaphosa and the ANC though....?

william_gumede No chance he has no idea to escape this mass no one in the ANC to say a fact on this matter is the N1 to death of ANC 🤞

william_gumede That will be not end of the world as long as We have clean and reliable government. Ramaphosamustfall.

william_gumede So we trade one criminal for another, until the people learn to stop voting for MYANC. Such a disgrace. They are no longer a party, only a criminal organisation.

william_gumede Who cares william_gumede ? Do you have vested interests in MYANC ? Are you trying to paint the false narrative of Saint CyrilRamaphosa. It’s people like you that need to account for where we are as a nation sdenge !

william_gumede Let him step down

william_gumede You owe everything to Cyril for selling SAA for R51 to your bosses. You are trying to support criminality. GlencoreCorruption PhalaPhalaFarmGate

william_gumede Who cares what happens to the cANCer?

william_gumede 🤞🤞

ThandekaPutin william_gumede So what?

william_gumede Cyril was never ANC but a planted spy to destroy the movement. Your snalysis are paralytic

william_gumede And? So what? That would be the best thing that can happen! The sooner the better!!! 🙏

william_gumede Never mind what Sunday time are saying is not correct, ANC isn’t a small organization , Ramaphosa is not a strong and good leader, his appearance is fake , he only care about himself, SA is in crisis, 22 young people dead, Eskom, crime, all this doesn’t matter to him

william_gumede Liars

william_gumede And you as journalist, how did you come up with that conclusion 🤔

william_gumede He made money for you, that's why you love him so much.

william_gumede Julle praat poes, Ramaphosa he is not the last hope to ANC, we have President Zuma available to assist us. Yes I said 'US'

william_gumede Could or couldn't

william_gumede The fall of Ramaphosa is the rise of myanc

william_gumede Avenimenza important umakhalen boh 🥴

william_gumede You are trying so hard to justify nonsense🤮. Mr PhalaPhalaGateFarm must be charged if found guilty, that’s all I want.

william_gumede william_gumede hlez’ ebhala noma ekhuluma udodi. The most popular MYANC leader since Mandela, PresJGZuma was forced to step down because of the rand and the downward spiral started with the election of CyrilRamaphosa. Your analysis is up side down!

william_gumede wanyela we should all chose the country first

william_gumede Tsek!

william_gumede Meaning Ramaphosa founded ANC, there was no ANC before Ramaphosa was planted?

william_gumede Ramaphosa found the ANC not visa versa jo moerrrrr

william_gumede Nonsense,there was ANC before Cyril and there will be ANC after Cyril

william_gumede What’s with Sunday times,ANC it’s not named after Ramaphosa

william_gumede Cyril is not ANC do not write rubbish, you said the same about Zuma that he is killing the ANC while the stadiums were always full but media vilified him because ANC was becoming more powerful and thats not what you want, strong ANC

william_gumede That we do not know all we know is that he does not resonate with the masses and that costed the ANC in the last two elections

william_gumede The party downward spiral is what the country needs. CR is not performing anywhere.

william_gumede At this stage, we don't care actually it will be our bonus as citizens of this country

william_gumede Personally I hope and pray that if the ANC makes him step down there must be so much inner fighting that no one will agree who can take this post. Definitely not the missing Deputy Pres. I never ever see him work. Who can come out of that rotten group. We all tired of no service

william_gumede That's a lie. ANC EXISTED before Cyril. Ramaphosa is not the ANC but a member of the ANC. stop feeding people propaganda and lies. If he had messed up, he must leave qha

william_gumede This is your wish not the views of ANC members and South Africans in generalPhalaPhalaFarmGateRamaphisaMustGo…ANC has capable leaders who will take the organisation and the country forward

william_gumede So what?

william_gumede 😂😂😂💩💩💩

william_gumede Not true

william_gumede The sooner the better.

william_gumede Nonsense this

william_gumede Is this a promise?

william_gumede Rubbish.

william_gumede Dont listen to fools, he's not a messiah.

william_gumede It will become a +- 35% party, when he goes. Many people of all races, sort of hoped or trusted, that he would fix SA.

william_gumede 🤣🤣🤣. what about the rand/economy?problem with individuals being above the party.

william_gumede Why is the news paper worried about who fares how in the elections? Are news papers political parties nowadays.

william_gumede Let it split. The sooner it does, the better for SA and her people

william_gumede He will remain in power until 'they' say so.....

william_gumede That will never happen

william_gumede Better now without henekom and big gupta called pavin

william_gumede Maybe it's time we accept that ANC deviated from its initial plan the day they decided to make Mandela our president with sunset clauses...

william_gumede Do it.

william_gumede Umbhedo lo!

william_gumede Gumede ong ngashlanyeli.phela u talking from stamoch.wht is this..PhalaPhalaGateFarm

william_gumede Hallucinations!

william_gumede You drink a lot

william_gumede william in his lifetime has never written anything that make sense. PhalaPhalaFarmGate

william_gumede Correct analysis. He is the only leader capable of saving the ANC towards 2024. Opposition Parties want him out too not only the RET faction. The demise of the ANC is to their benefit. One man's meat is anorher man's poison.

william_gumede No problem

william_gumede We should be so lucky!

william_gumede Even if it falls,more than 20 something yrs they don't take our opinion we have to toy toy every day .

william_gumede Masepa a Sunday Times! How is this disastrous and a criminal helping the fortunes of the ANC? He actually killing the ANC

william_gumede So Mntaka Qwabe...you are simply suggesting that Ramaphosa have to stay just to protect the ANC? Please Ramaphosa was not born to protect ANC, so many leaders have come and go, so CR will also go.

william_gumede We are used to these prophet of doom.

william_gumede Samething was said when president Mbeki was recalled.the ANC is bigger than individual.even his excellency Matamela won't like to see his movement collapsing.

william_gumede The PhalaPhalaFarmGate mouth piece has spoken

william_gumede This cow must go, we can't protect the ANC, because of this criminal.

william_gumede Don't threaten us with a good thing. The death of this ANC is not a threat but a good thing.

william_gumede Akahambe nabobonke abangani bakhe

william_gumede Good, the sooner the better. SA does not need this criminal syndicate.

william_gumede So what? Does that give him a free pass?

william_gumede That’s good

william_gumede A party that has Pablo as their last hope , mnkm.

william_gumede Good. Can't happen soon enough. The ANC is bankrupt. Morally and financially.

william_gumede Musani ukusinyela nina making it seems like CyrilRamaphosa an omnipotent nidakwa.

william_gumede It’s a risk we are willing to take! Step down Cyril!

ATOGA77 william_gumede Exactly what we want. Sikhathele yibona

william_gumede Tsek

william_gumede While this happens can the rest of SA citizens have the ANC step down as the rulling party. We don't want to wait for 2024. By then there will be no country to save. We need to k ow what are rights are as citizens. Brazil got is right a few yrs ago.

william_gumede Nothing matters anymore, no amount of protection will save Cyril and ANC from the truth and severe hardships we are facing. Fokof

william_gumede good

william_gumede Let it be.

william_gumede Early Elections will be appreciated

william_gumede Nonsense and Rubbish what you saying. This CRIMINAL must go. RamaphosaMustGo

william_gumede Two flies in one shot? Yes, they must fuckoff.

william_gumede Who cares willy?

william_gumede And the alternative is? Tolerating more looting, thieving, corruption etc. It’s this a catch 22!

william_gumede CR will never step down.

william_gumede Why is the individual bigger than the party now?

william_gumede Let it go down

william_gumede I wonder which Anc is gonna go down because the man in question doesn't seem to follow any resolutions of the Anc itself.

william_gumede VoetsekANC ANC

william_gumede One can only hope, holding thumbs.

william_gumede Tsek, this Ramaphosa rubbish must go!

PaulDeVantier william_gumede The ANC must fall along with Rhamapoes

SimiN_Zet william_gumede Who said they're our Messiah?...We couldn't care less what happens to the ANC or Cyril for that matter.

william_gumede Let him step down, ANC- the masses will take it from there☝️☝️☝️

william_gumede Good ,right into the anus of history …. i meant anals🤣🤣

william_gumede This thing of putting Ramaphosa as a savior of the ANC is just absurd. He came to kill it and with his departure it might actually survive

william_gumede That's exactly what we want.

william_gumede Good

william_gumede ANC is not Ramaphosa. Stop lying and trying to scare people into silence!! It was all good and nice when you were bringing Zuma down. Now it hurts… nidakiwe

william_gumede Good

william_gumede It certainly will, spot on.

william_gumede Sounds good to me. End of the rambunctious Anc is nigh

william_gumede Nonsense! He was behind the formation of Cope, he can go again with those people we don't care.

william_gumede And? This is good news VoetsekANC

william_gumede So we must pay SARS and we must overlook the ANC leader not paying SARS for the sake of ANC while I’m experiencing nice loadshedding. Missing out on my online classes tsek wenna ST.

kalushi_01 william_gumede

william_gumede Never he is nothing to ANC at all. He is not ANC tsekkkkk👇👇👇👇

william_gumede Some of us we care less even if he can step down tomorrow

william_gumede Result!

william_gumede Thank you Cyrl Ramaphosa is the time for eff to lead this country forward

william_gumede ANC has created an atmosphere/ situation where millions of people are impoverished and therefore are forced to go them for hand-outs. People have been forced to be beggars. ANC must GO!

william_gumede Who's fault is it? MYANC leadership has affected its own ability to support or improve the conditions of life for SAns. Instead, the exorbitant cost of living has exacerbated the problem, and nothing from the freedom charter is visible...🇿🇦💔

william_gumede What a pleasant thought.

william_gumede He must go we don't care what happens with the ANC he already destroyed it.

Hlanga_O william_gumede Let it be!

william_gumede Awesome let's get to it done then.

william_gumede That be just awesome!

william_gumede 🤣😂🤣😂 Polokwane 2.0

william_gumede Why do you care about the ANC, PhalaPhalaGateFarm is not his only wrong,there is also the MarikanaMassacre that he could be guilty of.

william_gumede Non sense

william_gumede No problem... 🙄

william_gumede Kulungile. Who' cares as long as ephumile nje

william_gumede People need to accept that Ciryl is not going anywhere anytime soon, the sooner you make peace with this fact the better, spare yourselves unnecessary heartaches, he will serve his second term come rain or sunshine,

william_gumede We really don’t care webantu

william_gumede Even he can stay is the same 🤞✍️ WA e gapa o molato WA etlogela o molato 🤞ke kgomo ya moshate😂😂Diya mokatong✍️✍️✊✊✊

william_gumede And thats the goal nje!!!

william_gumede bye silli bye

william_gumede The party's elections results went below 50% in the 2021 local elections under this man. If he was popular as you claim, why did this happen ?

william_gumede This is how 90% of the anc NEC and its voters think. The thinking is all and around them not us the NATION. 🚮🚮

william_gumede We are Very Okay with that

william_gumede They have already splited, with 2 factions🤔🤔some Anc will be terrorist group operating in the bush, wait and watch,

william_gumede Prophets of doom

william_gumede Lets 🙏🙏🙏 for ANC disappearing off the map.

william_gumede As if Ramaphosa cares, is that not what he wanted?

william_gumede It’s really not about the ANC, it’s about South Africa 🇿🇦.

william_gumede Unethical, biased and factional 👇🏽

william_gumede Ku rough kwi ANC

william_gumede If the ANC splits then each split will do less well than the ANC is currently doing... So what exactly is he saying?

william_gumede so be it !

william_gumede Step down. Let the ANC fall. It’s about time. They are just too ludicrous for words.

william_gumede He would've achieve his main goal destroy the useless ANC.

william_gumede PhalaPhalaGateFarm Kaizer Chiefs CyrilRamaphosamustgo dude No sense

william_gumede The are only anc thieving thugs in the line.

william_gumede Hope so!

william_gumede Let it be

william_gumede Ninamanga shem

william_gumede The downward spiral started when Zuma left.

william_gumede That won’t happen.

william_gumede CyrilRamaphosamustgo

william_gumede We don’t care CyrilRamaphosamustgo

william_gumede Lies. The ANC is bigger than one man/woman. Let Ramaphosa go. He must lead by example and step aside bcs of PhalaPhalaFarmGate

william_gumede He is not ANC, he is Cyril Ramaphosa. He is going to go and ANC will remain to its owners which are the voters not him. He did nothing for ANC but destroyed it into ashes as you tasked him to do, decades ago🚮🚮🚮🚮👇👇👇👇

william_gumede So what you are saying is that MYANC is nothing without CyrilRamaphosa. Basically with out CyrilRamaphosa there is no MYANC

william_gumede Cyril must go. All the Anc must go. Pushing it further down the Anc sewer will not help. Anc out!

william_gumede Voetsek VoetsekANC VoetsekCyril 🤮

william_gumede Motetao straight,Cyril cant be above the law and no amount of pussy footing with the truth will defocus us law abiding citizens on this one.

william_gumede A false assumption. There are other capable leaders in the ANC.

william_gumede Then that’s what must happen. We thought the party would split after Zuma the same way it did after Mbeki but ANC lives on. They must stop propaganda

william_gumede Mr. william_gumede seem not to understand anc. They will do anything and everything but giving up fribees away? They will fight like Kgosi Maepa has been fighting the CityTshwane despite internal fights, look at all sorts of coalitions they have been getting into for power only

william_gumede Isn’t that what you want? So why not?

william_gumede Guys listen to this madness and fake journalism. Maybetget are redering to TshweuMoleme-s spaces LeratoKubeka6 dijamael

william_gumede Let him step down will talk about that later

william_gumede That narrative is the only weapon give PhalaPhalaFarmGate kingpin power to run amok and keep dragging ANC down

william_gumede 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. You are desperate neh!

william_gumede Either way ,keeping him in power shows no integrity voter's already lost trust .

william_gumede Voetsek!

william_gumede He must be forced to step down. I mean everybody will be happy if the ANC loses election. Please force him to step down now.

william_gumede We shall not split because of Ramaphosa!!!!!!!!

william_gumede Cyril doesn't have a constituency. Business needs a functioning not chaotic state for survival. With chaos, business dies too. A bakery must remain even after the president it supported leaves office or the bakery closes down. Business will always choose survival.

william_gumede That's your opinion

william_gumede So ramaphosa is now made God who musnt be held accountable?

william_gumede How does he know? ANC have been hetting 60% votes before Ramaphosa. There is nothing special about this PhalaPhalaGateFarm guy

william_gumede Who cares may ZA will be a better country to live in

william_gumede ANC needs to go.

william_gumede DD is capable he can run this country better than Cyril. Sukuma DD baku bone .

william_gumede We can't wait for that to happen soon enough

william_gumede PhalaPhalaFarmGate has nothing to do with MYANC but with the RULE OF LAW CyrilRamaphosa is facing serious criminal investigation which when ignored SAPoliceService or covered up NPA_Prosecutes or swept under the carpet OCJ_RSA will rig havoc & civil war durbanjuly2022

william_gumede

william_gumede Who needs it? What has it done for this country?

william_gumede Lies ramavaccins has lot of scandals to mention few PhalaPhalaFarmGate , MarikanaMassacre , GlencoreCorruption ,CR17BankStatements , bosasa and forced mandatory vaccines Devil 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈 himself,if he can resign south Africa will be saved from COVID-19 and monkey pox

william_gumede Wouldn’t you like that 😄

william_gumede Imagine a thug telling us he's God. Tsek with your God Gumede njandini yomgodoyi, ukhuluma amasimba sathani

PhillRamboo william_gumede They already have

william_gumede Your Ramaphosa is useless.. Tske, makahambe, we are in the kaka becausw of that mgodoyi. Tsek nawe Gumede gamors

william_gumede

william_gumede That will be great instead of allowing a criminal to lead the country. It won't be happening for the first time. PhalaPhalaFarmGate PhalaPhalaFarmGate PhalaPhalaFarmGate

william_gumede Ncono bahamne bonke. Ramaphosa is not ANC, or MYANC are you now nothing without Ramaphosa like this fool yaka Gumede suggests?

william_gumede 🤣🤣🤣

william_gumede Must step down busted

william_gumede

william_gumede And that's exactly what should happen. That's exactly what South Africa needs!!!!

william_gumede Finally! Some good news!

william_gumede Delusional journalism 😂😂😂

william_gumede Ulixhwele na lo william gumede?

william_gumede What a piece of lazy journalism

william_gumede Yes he must step down, we will deal with that later.. We can't keep a corrupt president just for the sake of ANC.. Anyway since when journalists care about ANC 🤷‍♂️

william_gumede Good riddens....but I can’t say I know who i would then vote for

william_gumede We live in hope.

william_gumede

william_gumede Cyril didn't start the ANC, it was there before him, it'll be there after him, he just has to go CyrilRamaphosamustgo CyrilRamaphosamustgo PhalaPhalaFarmGate PhalaPhalaFarmGate PhalaPhalaFarmGate PhalaPhalaFarmGate PhalaPhalaFarmGate PhalaPhalaFarmGate

william_gumede Why do you care? Are you an anc member?

william_gumede Let it be ANC iyophatha kuze buye yesu

william_gumede Sounds wonderful! Do it!

william_gumede Don’t tell them that

william_gumede 😁

william_gumede Nonsense he should step down

william_gumede Frog boiler must go. Now.

william_gumede Stupid analysis by the toilet paper called Sunday tumes

william_gumede RamaphosaMustGo PhalaPhalaGateFarm

william_gumede Alhamdulillah, 🙏🙏🙏

william_gumede That's the plan I hope,bring in DA

william_gumede Awu kodwa leliphephandaba! Yini uhlala uphuma eceleni?

william_gumede Things must be bad for the president. For Sunday Times to start warning ANC members from removing him, it must mean things are shaky for him.

william_gumede We continue to live in hope.

william_gumede So we have to suffer so that the anc doesn't spiral downwards? We're disrespected as citizens. Yesses

william_gumede I want Cyril Ramaphosa to win December conference so that the ANC can lose elections under him PhalaPhalaFarmGate

william_gumede Cyril Ramaphosa must go. CyrilRamaphosamustgo

william_gumede His presence is a huge threat to the party and the reason why ANC is collapsing. He must not just step down but even resign from the African National Congress

william_gumede Some of these journalists are disastrous.

william_gumede We've got capable Cadres who can fix the country like Minister of Home Affairs🙂🙂👌👌

william_gumede Whether, Cyril stays or leaves will not save the ANC, damage is already done.

william_gumede We don't care about what happens to ANC, as long as Mr Phala Phala will answer for his crimes that's all.

william_gumede Ramaphosa must b arrested

william_gumede Don't threaten the country with a good time.

william_gumede Those who write this rubbish they must know that the clock is ticking

william_gumede Tsek...is he the Jesus lord of the MYANC ...let it spiral then

william_gumede The media houses thinks we are like them.. hell no we are not stupid

william_gumede We are not here to nurse ANC Gatekeepers

william_gumede Sila PhalaPhalaGateFarm PhalaPhalaGateFarm PhalaPhalaGateFarm PhalaPhalaGateFarm PhalaPhalaGateFarm PhalaPhalaGateFarm PhalaPhalaGateFarm PhalaPhalaGateFarm

william_gumede It will be a good event for the country!

william_gumede Lol they think Ramaphosa is the ANC

william_gumede ANC was formed in 1912 Ramaphosa wasn't even born In 1959 PAC was formed from ANC, Ramaphosa was not even member In 1992 he was made SG, he resigned In 2018 he was made president & in 2019 ANC recorded its first worst performance at the polls, also in 2021 The better he's gone

william_gumede He is no saviour. He can stay and the ANC will still loose votes. There is no honor amongst thieves. For as long as MP, KZN, NW, LP and EC are strong ANC provinces none of these thieves will see a need to change. GP only woke up after loosing enough votes.

william_gumede Arthur Fraser ke boss. 🙌🙌🙌

william_gumede Keep dreaming

william_gumede Wr dont care. CR must gooooo

william_gumede If it Splits let it Split... Oksalayo u Matamela Sihamba naye... We will meet Amasela by the River on the other side 🤔... Imagine being led by first convicted MP Thief T*ny Y*ngeni and Acebestos and Fraudster Mr bone marrow cancer Kal Nie huis 🤣🤣🤣

william_gumede Who gives a sh**

william_gumede Yes that’s what we want , we can’t be held hostage by these analysts who predicts a tsunami just because the favourite child is a mess and they know it . He must go together with the entire anc , South Africa deserves a fresh start, an ANC-less start.

william_gumede For him to force himself on us that’s what’s going to help us put the nail in anc coffin once and for all, I can’t wait for this evil regime to end, GOD please help us, I pray 🙏

william_gumede Let the anc die we don't care... Its not about the ANC

william_gumede Amanga.

william_gumede Vele there is nothing more ANC can offer South Africans.

william_gumede About f/king time......

Xolani_Shamase william_gumede Then makunyiwe once. He must step down

william_gumede Sunday times should fire uWilliam gumede... he's a poor analyst PhalaPhalaFarmGate

william_gumede You forgot to type “paid partnership”

william_gumede Rubbish, are you saying we are happy with his criminal activities in PhalaPhalaFarmGate Criminal Cartel? Julle vat ons bit poes. Futsek

william_gumede Cyril is the germs in the Anc

william_gumede These professors honestly think they are superior than others in all sphees of thinking.

isabellavanroo2 william_gumede A interesting prospect. The voters need to experience a wakeup shock.

william_gumede Let it split. This one must fall

william_gumede Bullshit

william_gumede Good rid

william_gumede As if he would be the first one to step down Tseg Mdidi yenu fucken WMC mthondo suckers

william_gumede Fellow South Africans we need to deal with our Media like Pakistan did to them.

william_gumede Is that not what we want as South Africans? Death of ANC.

william_gumede Vele this is what we want as straight thinking Mzansi people 🤷🤷🤷

william_gumede Don’t talk 💩

william_gumede It would benefit the country as the ANC is steering ever deeply into the abyss!

william_gumede Let it be

william_gumede So, what is the problem? The ANC lost their credibility to govern 4+ elections ago.

william_gumede You can't force the masses to ignore everything that he involves with, the man is not transparent, Bossasa, Glencore, oudio leaked, Marikana, now Phala Phala Farm Gate, Constitution, laws of this Country, law enforcements, Cyril must step down and the ANC

william_gumede Let them split it's long they've nursed imigodoyi and amasela and protect them instead of their employers (voters) CyrilIsNotALeaderButADealer PutSouthAfricaFirst OperationDudula IStandWithRSATruckDrivers OnsBaizaNie Action4SA

william_gumede Where do we get these professors? Do they understand what does it mean to be a professor? Do they understand the meaning of the concept called 'empirical evidence'. Hayi madoda kubi.

william_gumede let him go vele ANC is useless

william_gumede It's opinion like this one that drags the country's deeper in to a quackmires. You can't be of view that a criminal of note stays in power just for the sake of political expediency.

william_gumede Truth.

william_gumede Not true. It's CyrilRamaphosa who led MYANC to below 50% election victory. If he's removed ANC will achieve 2rds majority victory.

william_gumede And that's what we want.

william_gumede The sooner he step down the better

MANSAMU51600932 william_gumede Nonsense! Stop trying to make this man seem like the glue that holds the ANC together..At this point he is not even that important to the country that's going down the drains..

william_gumede For once a hopeful light at the end of our dark tunnel presented by MSM!

william_gumede PAC UDM COPE EFF ATM And other political parties get birth from political differences with ANC, so it will be not the first time. What is your point really

MotimeleThabo william_gumede We don't care, all we want is him stepping down. Let him go.... ProphetSundayTimes

william_gumede It will be good for the country

william_gumede This newspaper is trying so hard to convince us that Ramaphosa is better than the ANC yoh. U r so captured

william_gumede So you saying even if courts find him guilty he should not step down?

william_gumede There's no compelling reasons for president to vacate his post especially when the chief mgodoyi is involved in the robbery saga at Ramaphosa's private farm

william_gumede This will be great news for the country

william_gumede That would be great because we have people who keep on voting them inspite of chaos they cause in our country

william_gumede Bayaxova Abelungu

william_gumede Good, can't wait to see the back of that cartel they call a political party.

william_gumede The scary thing who will take his place in the meantime. They only have radicalized and uneducated terrorists.

Nyikoishere william_gumede Minus one problem

william_gumede Here's hoping for a miracle! VoetsekANC

william_gumede Exactly what our Country needs...a fast-forward demise of the ANC...

william_gumede And then RET takes over...

william_gumede Better the devil you know that the one you don't!

william_gumede So, great news for sa then?

william_gumede It's OK.

william_gumede These are the same analysts who said things will be better under cyril. You can keep your opinion to yourselves 😉

william_gumede The same was said about Jacob Zuma, you sound like a poster boy.

william_gumede Best be prepared for the worst ...

william_gumede Leaders come and go. RamaphosaMustGo PhalaPhalaGateFarm

william_gumede Heard that before with Mbeki, Zuma & Zuma & Zuma. still waiting for a split..

william_gumede Ima nizibona ke I anc ukuth ikup aysuke lento then let ANC do it own work uzobona ke Futh mnqundu wakho

william_gumede Joke of the year. Then we must allow him to engage on corrupt activities with impunity

william_gumede Who Cares. Are you implying that this Useless Anc is good for us.

NewsPrime1012 william_gumede He’s going nowhere CyrilRamaphosa MYANC . His handlers are waiting for him to privatise Eskom_SA

william_gumede Best news ever... So let it be🙏🙏🙏🙏

william_gumede Anc is not ramaphosa and ramaphosa is not Anc

william_gumede That's fine PhalaPhalaFarmGate

william_gumede Here's hoping. Enough of this bunch of criminals already

william_gumede That's the writers opinion and fortunately it will remain just that! An opinion!

william_gumede Kusho bani 🤔

william_gumede Stupid article 🤣🤣🤣

william_gumede Hahahahaha. Does P R O F means Public Relations Officer?

william_gumede Rather that than Ramapgosa

william_gumede William we don't care!

william_gumede 😂

william_gumede We don't care, Cyril Ramaphosa must go, he doesn't represent the majority.

william_gumede We don't care let him go.

william_gumede It won't

william_gumede Whatever wena slima

william_gumede Nothing will save the Anc from slippery slope, Corruption and protection of corrupt people has caused them a lot of credibility, Let alone the fact that Quality of leadership has dropped significantly,Buying of branches for conferences has also invited mediocrity of membership.

william_gumede They are not doing any good job now.

william_gumede Is he the messiah we have been waiting for?

william_gumede And south Africa will be freed

william_gumede william_gumede is this how the PhalaPhalaFarmGate and CR17BankStatements money heist gets into your thinking capacity... Hunger can cause serious mental damage...

william_gumede Okay prophets of doom.

william_gumede That's what your bosses from Stellenborch and London thinks how it will go down. He is going

william_gumede That will be a good thing for south Africa.

william_gumede Don't come here and want play sangoma on us.......The ANC will be even more fucked if the Buffalo remains.This guy has no respect within the ANC. You must hear how people reporting to him talk about him.A number of them even say recalling Zuma was the biggest mistake made.

william_gumede It’s a lie

william_gumede The failure of the ANC would be for the greater good of South Africa

Selbybok william_gumede I thought ANC was bigger than any leader.

william_gumede So what is problem. RAMAPHOSA MUST STEP DOWN ANC WILL WIN COMING ELECTIONS O

william_gumede Bathong thusang

william_gumede That’s exactly what must happen in our Life Time

william_gumede Now it makes sense to why the DA and SA media are suddenly withdrawing their support for CR.

william_gumede Anc has more than a million members. This is not true

william_gumede Then party won't splitout, instead its will grow more than what they are now.. Mr 21 Million for 9 cows must 🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️

william_gumede Ai Nina omsunu busy promoting big nose

william_gumede That's what South Africans want!!!!

william_gumede China and India is still building coal fired stations. Germany is reopening theirs. So

william_gumede But that's exactly what Cyril is doing single handedly killing the ANC 🤷‍♀️

william_gumede Media Propaganda misled most people. But we remain focused. You're trying so hard to defend indefensible crimes committed by Ramaphosa PhalaPhalaFarmGate

william_gumede Is that what you are told to feed us? You guys and your handlers are trying so hard to protect this president of darkness. Well nihambe kabi ngoba uyahamba. ANC is finished already, he has finished it already, his mission accomplished.

william_gumede Perfect!

william_gumede Ninyile

william_gumede And so what? Can he step down already

william_gumede Ramaphosa is a true reflection of a Country in ruins caused by his own ANC Party he lead and have promoted ,and the consequences if you do not lead and Act decisively against Corruption but instead Tolerate Crime,Criminality in your Party,Is it because you are a accomplice also ?

william_gumede Some of us actually don't care...or should I say MYANC destruction is our victory...

william_gumede What do you mean here Mnguni? So he must continue leading with such dark clouds hanging over his head? Cyril must step down already

william_gumede So you mean Cyril is the pillar and strength of the ANC? We don't care about the ANC but we care about our country. If they apply step aside rule on Cyril its fine and maybe things can change in our country like scrapping BBE and cadre deployment coz it promotes corruption

william_gumede Bullshit

william_gumede Thanks for restoring my happiness in my darkest days, during those period I invested $500 and to my greatest surprise I got a return of $5,500 in just seven days he's reliability can't be equated BernardMason07

william_gumede He must just voetsek with his biggest nose

william_gumede Ramaphosa failed South Africa Citizens and is currently the head of a failed ANC ruled State, run by Criminals, Criminal Enterprises everything is compromised under ANC Rule , nothing is Transparent and sustainable and running lawfully,He should do the honorable thing STEP DOWN

william_gumede In the happening and will happen people are very very tired of all ANC,s government empty Promises ANC Gov ongoing Corruption, the State of State Entities ,no or poor services , no employment,lack of Police Protection protecting Lives and property .ANC have destroyed South Africa

william_gumede Are you perhaps suggesting that country hold on to an accused who is not able to peovide proper information on such serious matter. Focus on fighting corruption and not protecting an individual

william_gumede Who cares, Ramaphosa must go. End of the story

william_gumede Even with Cyril as President PresidencyZA the ANC still did bad in 2021 local government elections. So please stop talking nonsense as if Cyril is some kind of saviour, in fact he's part of the problem. ANC lost many municipalities under Cyril's presidency in 2021 elections

william_gumede How is that a bad thing?

william_gumede That would be great

william_gumede Good news, now just to get rid of whole MYANC +EFFSouthAfrica out of this country with all Cubans and foreign Africa people what is not native to South Africa. Then South Africa citizens can rebuild again. CyrilRamaphosa MbalulaFikile tito_mboweni

william_gumede Cyril has killed the MYANC already. He should go now before he does further damage

william_gumede Rule of the ANC he must step aside phalaphala farmgate

william_gumede Good, that's what we need, his fall and downward spiral of MYANC.

william_gumede That’s what we want actually

william_gumede If Ramaphosa is the best of South Africa then we are in trouble if you look beyond the factions you will find many talented leaders

william_gumede If it’s for the best then so be it . This corruption can’t be condoned any longer .

william_gumede It has only been 28 years since the ANC rule, and much has been done the blacks are educated, the National party reigned for 46 years. If He steps down there will be someone to take over the reigns.ANC yi Party yakudala yabamyama, yes those that are corrupt kwi ANC must be fired.

william_gumede ANC is dead already

william_gumede That is not true ANC is bigger than Cyril

william_gumede I believe the ANC was on a Downward spiral since 1997 when their true colors came to light!

william_gumede You're lying and a propagandists for stellenbosch mafia clan

william_gumede Anc must be disband

william_gumede The ANC has reached its expiry date! They blamed Mbeki They blamed Zuma Now they blaming Ramaphosa It has been a so called renewal since the recall of Mbeki

william_gumede Gossip and propaganda

william_gumede Voetshek; Cyril is sent to destroy the ANC. Once he steps down the ANC will start to growing.

william_gumede PhalaPhalaFarmGate CR17BankStatements StateCaptureReport Rupert MarikanaMassacre

william_gumede

william_gumede Probably it’s time for a new era of in SA politics

william_gumede Good

william_gumede So in william_gumede 's short mind Cupcakes is the only leader in ANC who is annoited by God. That is nonsense if found corrupt he must step down

william_gumede William Gumede ke mpšanyana,he shouldn't be taken serious,he fails to tell the republic that ANC downward spiral gained speed after the election of that puppet which is forever selling this country

william_gumede That's good news for SA! we are fed up with ANC & call an early General Election aswell.

william_gumede Xheeem

william_gumede Sounds wonderful ! Let’s make sure it happens

william_gumede Him stepping down will save the ANC.

william_gumede Who cares they can down spiral or not asinendaba

william_gumede Which is good for the country

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Ramaphosa granted more time to respond to public protector on Phala Phala sagaThe public protector's office says it has granted President Cyril Ramaphosa an extension to respond to Phala Phala allegations after he requested it NX Amanga, did he requested it or you just manipulating?🤷‍♂️ Mxm lixoki lendoda Ramaphosa must GO ramaphosamustgo
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Investigations into President Ramaphosa regarding Phala Phala farm allegations on trackICYMI [VIDEO]: The office of the Public Protector has assured South Africans that the investigations into President Cyril Ramaphosa with regards to allegations related to the 2020 robbery at his Phala Phala farm are on track. How has the public protector not saying anything about the state capture?🤔 We will wait for the FBI, that office of the PP has been weakened by the suspension of Busisiwe Mkhwebane. PhalaPhalaFarmGate We will see
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ATM party to IPID: Investigate police conduct in Phala Phala farm theft sagaThe ATM party has asked the directorate to investigate the conduct of police after the burglary at President Cyril Ramaphosa's Phala Phala farm last year.
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