Wolfgang Tillmans and Asma Maroof have a long history. The pair first met on a drive to Malibu nearly a decade ago, and their friendship evolved into a creative collaboration when Tillmans later incorporated Maroof’s track “Smoke Alarm” into a Berlin installation focused on American music production. Most recently, the pair have reunited once again on behalf of REIF—a Berlin-based arts collective that bridges community activations and multimedia art projects.
TILLMANS: I know. It’s such a long time ago on paper, even though it feels so recent. It was 2014 and I was in town for the 25th anniversary party of Regen Projects, which has been my gallery since 1995, and I was excited to check out some of the new music that was emerging around that time. The label Fade To Mind stood out in particular—so I looked you up, because you were signed with them.
TILLMANS: And how did the theater and the city welcome you? I know the German-language theaters are known for hiring lots of experimental talent and directors—sometimes it causes a scandal with the audience. TILLMANS: I’m in my studio right now, and what you see behind me is not exactly supposed to be public. But I guess I’m not exactly being that discreet. It’s an architectural model of a museum exhibition I will be doing next year. With a big show, I set up the model over a year in advance, so that I can grow the show organically, and begin to think about the different spaces.
TILLMANS: Well, it adds growing anticipation to the track. You’re like, “What’s happening now? Oh wow, thisMAROOF: I’m not so good at making drops—I never have been. You’ve seen me DJ, I don’t exactly know how to drop, so I’ll usually just cool out. I’ll build excitement and then cool out. But to each his own!Moby DickMAROOF: Yes, it will be. It’s Wo’s next film, and I’m scoring it. I have a question for you—night or day? For music or sound, or anything.
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