White House asking hospitals to email them data on coronavirus patients

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VP Mike Pence has taken the extraordinary step of asking the nation's nearly 4,700 hospitals to submit via email daily updates to a federal inbox on how many patients have been tested for novel coronavirus.

The letter also exposed serious limitations to the federal government's ability to communicate directly with states andproviders, despite being several weeks into the crisis and after years of planning by both Democratic and Republican administrations on how to prepare the nation for a pandemic flu.

Heath experts on disease surveillance and data said they were somewhat surprised the federal government didn't already have this capability, and questioned why the administration waited to set it up now. But, they acknowledged, the U.S.in a way in which care is managed by private doctors and hospitals, as opposed to state-run health care systems.

People wait in line to be tested for coronavirus while wearing protective gear, outside Elmhurst Hospital Center in the Queens borough of New York, March 30, 2020."There are modern approaches to get this data, no doubt," said John Brownstein, chief innovation officer at Boston Children's Hospital and professor at Harvard Medical School."We're not doing much better than the fax.

 

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He should just ask on Twitter, as so many seem to know, and swear by it, that the U.S. has tested more ...

Could be done automatically electronically and then read on a screen at a specific place.

Its more better use tokens numbers for gamble away human life .. .

At least they’re not asking for postcards to be sent in.

Yes, an inbox of his gmail account.

asksalesforce SalesforceDevs Any chance you have a database solution for the federal government?

iamyuneek Isn't this, along with tracing, what the CDC is missioned to do?

Email? Why wouldn’t they have a database they could log into? One and Done ✅

But they sell test kit as self-test at home and people will not report correctly to the authorities? Ask China low price test kits?

The extraordinary step of delaying for this long?

Asher_Wolf Oh sorry, is it 1995?

So... how was he getting updates BEFORE today? Was he just watching it on TV like the rest of us 🤦🏽‍♂️

Huh. Science. How about just faith?

Trump wants them to include in their email praise of the wonderful job Trump is doing.

Daily updates? So you can lie about the deaths and cases How bout you provide tests that are FREE and actually help the people.

This is the stupidest idea among a lot of stupid ideas Pence has come up with.

hipaa?

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Paging AMIAinformatics. 🤷‍♀️

HerbScribner Long overdue accountability

Or they can send updates in a groip text. Bc that’s one step above how bad this idea is.

A step up from faxing

Control of the data gives control of the message!

NAH, fuck VP ! We don't need him manipulating the data!

It’s almost like lab data reporting to public health feeds were made for this type of thing and have been live for years but 🤷🏻‍♀️

You say extraordinary, I say fucking terrifying and WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE CONTINUING TO OVERBURDEN HOSPITALS IN THE MIDST OF A PANDEMIC TO ANSWER THE WHIMS OF DICTATORS IS A GOOD THING?!

WHERE THEY CAN REDUCE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS !

One would think a Federal response would be far more soffisticated than this, but here we are. “Please email us your results”

You mean what 59 other countries have already been doing?

So they can hide the truth?

Why? Does he think the tests are being stolen or forged some how and our health care providers are lying Or does he actually believe the results and numbers are real?

That’s not extraordinary that’s called doing your job

Know what would be a better number? How many symptomatic patients they have denied.

Nuts, patient care is the priority. Have you ever been in a hospital during a crisis? Thought not.

Pence 2024

And to also show the date of testing when receiving the results?

HIT nightmare

Maybe could try a form for data submission? google survey forms? Give them some sort of data standards. Just an idea.

They can put the data into the excel sheet called final_2

Someone get the local high school computer club to help these geniuses out.

Tech savvy

And liberty university?

Oh sure in their spare time right?

Ah yes the most secure of formats for sensitive medical information. Yahoo email.

The hospitals have plenty of time to do that. Insert sarcasm

What. A. Shitshow.

By extraordinary you meant idiotic, right?

Aren’t they busy enough, Mike?

Shitty manager assigns useless busy work to over worked people

This is how Calvin Coolidge would have used email back in the day

So Pence, get trump off his stage tomorrow!! We are tired of the facts being distorted!

Not extraordinary at all. Why weren’t they doing it before now. It’s ridiculous

COVID-19 Information should be collected and managed by medical professionals for medical care planning and reporting, not by 45* and his staff for campaign ads.

Three months into this we’re at the “requesting daily emails” stage?

Glad to see the VP is utilizing the google thingy with the email machine to gather highly important documentation from every corner of America to help flatten the curve.

Maybe postcards are next?

WHERE ARE THE TESTS?

VP and POTUS need to go visit those hospitals unprotected so they don’t waste any masks

Y’all tired of winning yet?!?

They have no fucking idea what’s going on.

You toady stenographers... That's pretty much what I would ask a summer intern to do.

tinyboo49 We aren’t doing that already? Hospitals should make that count public so Pence doesn’t deflate it.

Why is this 'extraordinary'? It seems like a very ordinary request to me in a time of a global pandemic. Is this feed run by an intern?

This absolutely cannot be an even remotely effective way to gather data. Seriously, there is no nationwide data base establish that’s already gathering this information?

Johanvanderslam Mike Pence trying to duplicate survey monkey.

Really? How novel donny. Coronavirustruth COVID19 TheLockdown BoycottTrumpBriefings 25theAmendmentNow BoycottTrumpBriefings COVIDIOTS need to wake the fuk up! Your golden calf is steering you straight into your own mortality. Have a blast.

Probably not the right time but tax returns please?

“Extraordinary steps” aka Mike Pence asking the IT guy if he could setup a new email account for him. Good luck with your inbox!

Amazing. Every part of this sentence makes no sense.

Johanvanderslam Um...shouldn't this have been one of the first things he did?

How about giving that straight to the CDC, at the same time they notify feds about how many diagnoses for the day, as they are mandated to do?

I don't work in medicine but assumed that a national data base for numbers like this was part of the ACA. I remember all the whining about additional data collection. Even if not, it is reasonable to have a system like this but is unreasonable to attempt its setup now.

How will they have time to do all that

They should make a deal that he shares all of the data immediately with the public.

Are hospitals testing people, or are clinics, roadside & private entities...? Covidiot

I'm sure they have plenty to do already. They should ignore his goofy request.

I’d say he’s doing a pretty good job

This is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard. Thousands of emails with absolutely zero consistency in reporting, formatting, etc...the effort to parse it alone is beyond possible. An unstructured data clusterf**k. Which, of course, should surprise no one at this point.

PHI... insecure channel. Solid no! Any emailgeeks want to weigh in?

This sucks

Our health and security are being designed by morons with fingerpaints.

There aren’t enough tests and the few that are tested sometimes wait up to 10 days for results.

Surely, there’s a better way to capture data...🤔

What's extraordinary is that they weren't already doing this.

Should they just Fax it?

So that they can make adjustment to the test numbers, I don’t think so Mike...👏🏿👏🏿

I really had thought that even the inept corrupt alt right nationalist party of trump would have been doing this all the FCK along. How stupid am I to believe they weren’t this stupid?

Wow, how much did VP have to pay a team of half dead monkeys to develop that super efficient information sharing strategy, 2 months INTO a pandemic?

A taste of how “A president pence would govern” .. 🙄

Only hospitals? What about health departments, etc?

'Necessary'?

We need real data. Bravo.

Huh? So many things wrong here

VP and realDonaldTrump ARE INCOMPETENT

Via email? Seriously?

Yeah, I’m their spare time!

This administration cannot be trusted. I will continue to follow Johns Hopkins site for data update.

This seems really inefficient from a data standpoint and really late in the game to be just now asking anyway. Why do they suck so hard at this

Be as ad hoc, casual, time-consuming and non-specific as you can...it’s just a pandemic with hundreds of thousands of lives at stake...Idiots...

They should have a data base. To enter it. Cccc

Um . . . Are we back in the 90s?

Is it Hotmail or Yahoo?

Email? Our hospitals are all submitting data to the State department of health and human services, and the CDC. It is not being done by email.

Oh. He’s going to read and evaluate those? He should pay attention to state reporting.

Email? Wtf? There are way better way to collect data lol. Jeezus.

Pence will read all 4700 emails every day then copy and paste to his Excel spreadsheet which he’ll forward as an attachment to trump but trump has marked Pence’s emails as spam.

One reason it’s being done is because the anal network reporters keep asking “how many” and get pissy when they don’t get an answer they like.

Email updates! That is waiting for all sorts of errors and poor sob who has to navigate 4000+ email per day!

Dude. Excel. CSV. Access. Join the 21st century. VP

Sure fax is another option Pence will accept. 😉

Really? finally Duh ...

it's his job, how is this extraordinary FFS

How about just post numbers a site?

Are you the administration's PR now? Gross headline.

This is a 1994-ass technology solution to 'we need to count things'

Lol sounds like an excellent process

Wow ! Give him a 🤴 ..

NicoleCarrWSB Many states are providing updates per their public health departments. But OK Mike. Have them separately email info that you and your people get to aggregate? I mean, why not have them fax it over?

Yes... because they have nothing better to do than personally e-mail him.

Who is MANUALLY reading and recording all those emails?! Because I’m sure that’s the most efficient way to collect data. 🤬🤯🤦‍♀️

Remember that the WH fired the Technology Officer a long time ago. Highly unlikely they have planned and tested a program to receive 4,700 emails each day, let alone extract and analyze data.

All out of carrier pigeons?

inefficient. ffs 🙄

If anyone wants to get in on this, the email address is CheetoKing69aol.com.

'Extraordinary?' How about 'very late?' I'm shocked it's only happening now! Come on, ABC. The MyPillow guy was up at a press conference saying Trump was given to us by God. It's way past time to write these headlines accurately (and stop airing his pressers of lies).

Sounds like a safe and secure plan.

“Extraordinary step” is Trump Talk. It’s called doing his job. Basically.

How is this only happening now?!

What’s so extraordinary about it ? It’s his JOB!!!

Hopefully 4700 Hospital IT employees send him phishing emails daily.

MerriamWebster Can we get a ruling in the use of the word 'extraordinary' here please?

This is their level of coordination for hospitals

Anything else they can do for you mike?

Send these reports to a common second site for aggregation and a check on the White House.

“VP Mike Pence has taken the ✌️extraordinary✌️ step of doing what he obviously should’ve already been doing.” Fixed it.

What took so long?! 😒

this is embarrassing.

Extraordinarily late

Not a fax?

This seems like the worst way to collect data. We need younger people running this damn country. 🙄

Umm. Any true leader would have started this on Day 1! OMFG!!!!

This sounds like a potential data manipulation and misinformation plot.

brooklynmarie Extraordinary?

Stop trying to normalize gross incompetence. Shame on you.

Wtf

Thank you sir!!

This WH has had ZERO strategy from day one! What a joke!

it's been going on quite some time

Since when was email 'extraordinary'? The 1980s?

Or call Johns Hopkins. They appear to have this shit show well documented.

Have communications with the states broken down already? Will these reports be made public, aggregated by states, perhaps?

They don’t have anyone to create a database. Holy shit? They want to receive almost 5,000 daily emails.

Why weren’t they doing this already? 🤔

Just now? It says a lot that this didn't happen two fcking months ago. WTAF.

Always out ahead of things. Jeez

Don’t fall for it. They want to know how many were tested, but they’re not asking the results; delaying the results and only reporting the positives to make things look unrealistically better so he can say, “We’re good! Happy Easter!” Don’t fucking fall for it.

I think collecting data is important. This will help us answer many questions.

There’s something about the word “extraordinary” here that’s bugging me. It implies VP is doing something monumental. He’s not. He’s doing his job—about two months too late.

They are too busy saving people and being the heroes in this to have to use MORE time doing unnecessary paperwork

The White House just briefed over a million they don’t know or did he just admit the president over compensating again

They should just send him Porn and ‘CC mother

To hide the information

Wat happened 2 the 1000s-millions of test that Trump&pence+their administration promised weeks ago would b available for testing?I dont remember the but I remember them stating that.From now on everytime they make a public promise to the USA,then break it,they should b arrested

You have the full weight of the federal government and you can't whip up a website? realDonaldTrump VP

That’s right, give the hospital administrators one more thing to do during this pandemic.

Good we finally might find out an actual number of how many tests, have been done and who is or isn’t getting tested...

Too little, too late, Pence is as responsible for the deaths of American citizens as that monstrous troll, Trump And in the last few days, abcnews seems to be going out of its way to show itself a wing of the Trump Propaganda Wing StopAiringTrump

Why not fumigate like all other country's have been doing,Its all about how trump can manipulate this virus attack for reelection than really trying to help after being four months late getting off his butt

Didn’t google already make that miracle website to track all of this?

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There's nothing 'Extraordinary' about doing the job. Quit praising people for doing the barest of minimums. He doesn't get a trophy for this administrations inept handling of this outbreak after ignoring it for months.

There’s absolutely nothing extraordinary about this besides the stupidity that they didn’t make a google doc and give each hospital access. Geez.

A bit damn late on that, don’t you think?!

Two weeks ago I asked him to keep track of what works and what fails.

Email? These are the dumbest people alive.

“Extraordinary”?! Da fuck

Extraordinary how?

Now? What the f**k have they been doing until now? Won't matter what number as it will be either inflated or deflated depending on Trump's mood.

you mean finally

Since you have to meet a very narrow criteria to qualify for the test, the numbers will be skewed anyway. I know several healthcare workers who were exposed and they can't get a test.

Extraordinary?....you mean he's doing his job?

Are they patients if they are not admitted to hosp?

You’re a worthless network.

Just now starting to ask for numbers?

I’m kinda blown away that there’s onl 4,700 hospitals in the entire country

Or they could just enter the information into a master database that's made available to anyone who needs to see it for research and analysis purposes as well as basic transparency.

Pence is such a hero. Said no one. Ever.

Is that because the press has called out the administration on that small number of people tested? Do we know if the numbers given are inflated or not?

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