Photo: Christian Cody It’s a bad day for both of us. An early, inconvenient hour, a last-minute location change, and the kind of hot, soupy weather that means boob sweat and bad smells. But the comedian Ziwe Fumudoh is neat, in a white teacup dress covered in candy-colored splotches, her hair tucked into a fluffy, orange bucket hat. This hat is enormous, and the effect is that Ziwe, who has forgone her usual platforms for a pair of sneakers, looks very small.
You’ve said that when you’re interviewing someone, you’re playing a character, and the way you dress is an expression of that. You’ve said the goal of your comedy is “to punch up at the powerful.” Now that you have your own show and are more established, I wonder if your definition of what “punching up” means has shifted at all?
That’s the show. My guests are happy and willing participants. We are creating comedy together. We brief them on the show. The show has many interviews. They’ve seen it. I think to say that I’m baselessly antagonistic, maybe it’s a misreading. You’ve said one of your intentions with Baited was to interview your white co-workers and make them feel uncomfortable about race. Some of your early career experiences were in pretty white spaces — Colbert, The Daily Show, Hysteria. Did your experiences in any of these places compel you to make the work you do now?
Well, I was depressed in college, and finding the humanities was easier. I did every fucking major, and then I landed on African American studies with a double major in film and a minor in poetry, because I have to see myself in the work or I don’t care.Race? It’s complicated. I would say that I saw the world in rose-colored glasses until I was in college. There was just a lot of police violence that I was noticing for what felt like the first time.I’ve always been comedic.
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