United Methodist conservatives detail breakaway plans over gay inclusion

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Conservative leaders within the United Methodist Church unveiled plans to form a new denomination, the Global Methodist Church, with a doctrine that does not recognize same-sex marriage. - NBCOUT

However, Louisiana-based Bishop Cynthia Fierro Harvey, who heads the UMC’s Council of Bishops, said debate over a schism would involve “delicate deliberations” and attempting to conduct them online in May “does not seem wise or ethical.”

Differences over same-sex marriage and the ordination of LGBTQ clergy have simmered for years in the UMC, and came to a head in 2019 at a conference in St. Louis where delegates voted 438-384 to strengthen bans on LGBTQ-inclusive practices. Most U.S.-based delegates opposed that plan and favored LGBTQ-friendly options; they were outvoted by U.S. conservatives teamed with most of the delegates from Methodist strongholds in Africa and the Philippines.

The most prominent plan, the Protocol of Reconciliation & Grace Through Separation, has some high-level support, including from the Council of Bishops and from the Global Methodist group. Under the protocol, conservative congregations and regional bodies would be allowed to separate from the UMC and form a new denomination. They would receive $25 million in UMC funds and be able to keep their properties.

Bishop Karen Oliveto of the UMC’s Mountain Sky region — who in 2016 became the UMC’s first openly lesbian bishop — said in an email that “it is heartbreaking when the Body of Christ fragments itself.”

 

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NBCOUT So its a hate based church. I don't think this is a step forward for any society.

NBCOUT I wonder path my (2x) great-grandfather, the circuit rider, would have followed?

NBCOUT Real Christian churches will not recognize gay marriage since the Bible calls gay sex an abomination.

NBCOUT Have fun !!

NBCOUT Can we not recognize tax fee status anymore?

DuaneHunt15 NBCOUT They’ve become their own God! Disgusting and shameful!

NBCOUT This is heartbreaking for progressive Methodists.

NBCOUT Hey it's their club. Management has certain rules

NBCOUT I'm not into anything that says 'globalist'. One world religion or one global government are scary...at least to me.

NBCOUT Good

NBCOUT The word of God does not allow it, so how could anyone who proclaims faith in God agree with it. We have free will, but we must also answer for our choices.

NBCOUT So this is where the white supremists parlor fans are going. It makes a convenient place for law enforcement to round them up.

NBCOUT and the weak minded will fallow

NBCOUT Everyone has a right in this country to believe what they want.. I pity those who do not open their heart and minds to all of Gods family.. they lose a great part of humanity..love thy neighbor has you would love thyself..it’s on them..just don’t stop others from their rights…

NBCOUT So a new one of the ledger: cult 1,482.

NBCOUT We all got enough sense to know gays is sinful way of life. Do you reject sinful way of life? Come on and be honest about this thing.

NBCOUT Maybe they shouldn’t incorporate the name Methodist. Just create their own denomination. Fine with me.

NBCOUT Yeah, all that bullsh*t about Jesus and love and stuff, being kind, hating the sin but loving the sinner...that's just dumb...

NBCOUT The irony of a bunch of 'America first' bigots putting 'Global' in their name.

NBCOUT CANCEL CULTURE!

NBCOUT Go for it. Good to get all the intolerant people in one place so open hearted loving people can work together to overcome the homophobic wrongs of the past.

NBCOUT Bye!

NBCOUT Bigots

NBCOUT Those are phanatics and sick minded people

NBCOUT If they are truly worshippers of a so called God, listen to the most basic instructions. Judge not lest yee be judged. Isn't it a sin to judge others, when really it's supposed to be up to this supposed God to judge everyone after we die?

NBCOUT Must be all that Christian 'Love thy neighbor' stuff driving them to do this.

NBCOUT Another schism ! From Nicaea to today so much has changed. This is a real pity that they will not recognize same sex marriage. For me I would withdraw their funding and take back the buildings they use.

NBCOUT PRAISE JESUS! Wait. That seems wrong right? Right? I’ll never understand those who follow religious bigotry when they have a Bible and a brain. Right?

NBCOUT This 70 years old Methodist not only quit, I changed my will and disowned them. There has always been an undercurrent of racism, anti-semitism and misogyny that I hoped love would change. I was wrong. Instead of growing in God’s love, they grew hate, added homophobia.

NBCOUT The division of ideas within religions is one of the many proofs that they are all BS. Religions are human creation designed to accommodate social groups that believe the same thing, none which are based on reason, science or logic.

NBCOUT Bye bye!

NBCOUT Yet they worship imaginary sky daddies 😂

NBCOUT Bye!

NBCOUT Conservative leaders

NBCOUT Go for it! Our Constitution protects ALL, not just a few.

NBCOUT But I thought you loved all of God's creations. Not very Christian of you....

NBCOUT It's amazing the trouble people will go to in order to just keep the hatred & bigotry alive.

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