The president's possible defense emerges from foreign affairs history.
Assume for the moment that all of those are true, and that the president enjoys the broadest possible power to condition foreign aid to a country on that nation prosecuting crimes that harm the U.S. Even so, the president still has a problem. It's the singling out of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden's son that ultimately could compromise this defense.
No reasonable, impartial observer would believe that any investigation into the former vice president's son would represent a corruption prosecution that Trump believed affected national security or even merited mention on a phone call with a head of state. It doesn't really matter if it's bribery, extortion or a violation of campaign finance law. It ultimately looks like an abuse of power and a corruption of the electoral process — both of which are impeachable events.
That's why this latest controversy might not pose a real criminal threat to the president, but it really could pose an impeachment threat.
The Senate will Not Impeach this is a waste of taxpayers money and could very well start a second civil war. We know the outcome of that war, deplorables have all the guns and all the ammo.
scrambling. 'Oops, we did it again. We are going to have to unwind everything we said'.
Treason
MalcolmNance Ukraine pres. saying nobody push me. No he asked you for a favorite implying after he asked you for Javalan defense system. How Dumb are you Trump not to know someone would be listening.
MalcolmNance GLOTUS asked for a bribe. That's illegal.
You don’t have to commit a crime to be impeached. Roll the Lindsey Graham tape
What. The. Fuck?
MalcolmNance Um, NBC, obstruction of justice IS a crime. Asking a foreign government to manufacture dirt on your political opponent is a crime. These have been admitted. Report accordingly.
What a ridiculous take
“Legal” analysis: “It’s ok if you’re Republican—always!”
Screw this...All the corruption in the world 🌎 and he singles out Ukraine ...I ain't buying it.. ImpeachTrump
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Y’all know this is not going to work, just like all the rest failed attempts to take down our President We the People Elected!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
MalcolmNance Ummm, I’m not sure that asking a foreign government to look into one of your political rivals would fall under an “intangible power to conduct foreign affairs.”
Don’t fall for the same bullshit like Barr did with the redacted Mueller report! Don’t just depend on their word! Their word isn’t worth shit!
MalcolmNance What if we add all the other high CRIMES and misdemeanors?
He is not gonna get impeached. Democrats should grow some brains and work on putting a plan together for 2020. They don’t have anything new to offer except some grandiose ideas.
It is, boring
MalcolmNance Trump was and is using the White House for his own personal benefit. That's criminal and violates his oath of office. It also destroys the integrity of the presidency and the DOJ.
donnyjohnny may be proven guilty of Constitutional Harassment in so many ways
Believe nothing that NBC says or thinks, they are fake news leader!!
You cannot impeach him. Why don’t you try this instead find a democrat they could run against him ...you don’t have anything.
The president's power to conduct foreign affairs does not cover: 1/ Using the power of his office to investigate a political rival as part of his political campaign. Violates The Hatch Act. 2/ Asking a foreign for help in his political campaign violates campaign finance law.
MalcolmNance Plenty of criminality already ffs.
Live look at NBC’s legal analyst.
MalcolmNance He blocked the whistleblowers report. That's criminal and impeachable. He solicited the aid of a foreign leader. That's a violation of the emoluments clause. He did so for his own personal gain. That's a second violation of the emoluments clause. Yeah, this stuff is Criminal.
Report on the facts. Ukraine says iyer wasn't pressured therefore no crime/ complaint. Dumbasses
Oh come on, there is no power in any shape or form that our founders came up with that was for a president to bribe a foreign government to investigate a political rival!!
So basically once again the MSM jumped the gun and lied, lied, and lied some more to try and paint a narrative, but it didn't reality didnt end up matching the made up narrative.
No, the question is WHY are Dems engaging in another witch Hunt based on unverified third party claims?
Russia Russia Russia then Finance , and now Ukraine . I hope next year will be Trump hair scandal , Lol
🤣..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...!!!....LOL...SMH..AIN;T THIS A....?!?!...😂....SEECH
Should you wait until you see the transcript. I hate Trump but your convicting him without facts.
MalcolmNance ABUSE of power
MalcolmNance No it’s not enough. Come on!
Way to begin the walkback NBC!
Dah
No, stoppit, propagana. He, like all other trusted servants of the People, MUST stay within the confines of the Constitution. He has repeatedly violated it.
🤣🤣🤣 good one you are already trying to walk it back!! You are pathetic!!
When is a Narcissist ever wrong ?
MalcolmNance It is criminal to solicit help from a foreign govt for an election. Stop with the fake headlines.
MalcolmNance Using one's position in the government for personal gain is the very definition of corruption. Everyone who works for the government has to sit through annual mandatory training sessions about it.
Why when. It comes to Trump & family there is always a loop hole
Trump needs to go
Narrator - it is. Also Narrator - Joe Biden is on camera actually bragging about a crime. See that asshats.
MalcolmNance He can’t....and I hope he finally gets some serious jail time...an awful individual on so many levels
Everything in Washington is one sided. This needs to change but the Nation has little Hope.
Could u imagine if trump got a blow job in office like Clinton
Sorry, but no. The president of this nation is not allowed to bribe a foreign nation in order to receive dirt on a political rival. There is NOTHING in that permits that, nothing. It is a flagrant abuse of power. And now, they are trying like hell to cover it up. Do better, NBC.
It isn't
Liberals will impeach if he sneezes. Undoing the election of DJT is the mission.
MalcolmNance Why is trying to whitewash the president*’s criminality? JFC, guys. Stop it.
MalcolmNance But he’s still breaking the law by not transmitting the complaint to congress within 7 days.
Basis of impeachment is not about criminality.
MalcolmNance If Nancy Pelosi is as smart as she seems to think she is impeachment might work. I'm not going to hold my breath.
MalcolmNance Not so fast! AndrewJohnson was Impeached for very similar HighCrimesAndMisdemeanors Read the Rules Of Impeachment. Your analysis is flawed. ImpeachTrump
Bribery is no criminal? Really!
MalcolmNance Hmm - I guess you could make an argument that bribing a foreign leader for your personal benefit is conducting foreign policy but, they violated the law by withholding the whistleblower complaint.
MalcolmNance Is this the 'legal analysis' we can look forward to during the impeachment?
MalcolmNance This NBC story is complete nonsense, not to mention vacuous and disingenuous.
Did Ken Dilanian write this?
MalcolmNance Two problems His “powers” as president are tangible. & he’s ignoring the Senate. Gooooooooooone!
MalcolmNance Let's not forget, he's been perpetrating impeachable offenses for over 2 years. It didn't start with his & Giuliani's Ukraine scheme. UnfitToBePOTUS
MalcolmNance Stop equivocating. Paying the Ukraine for dirt on a political rival is bribery and illegal interference with the election process IS criminal. Moreover, it's part of a pattern of illegal and criminal conduct.
MalcolmNance Conducting foreign affairs for his specific personal gain is not part of his 'intangible power'
MalcolmNance Digging up dirt overseas on his political opponent is not 'foreign affairs'.
MalcolmNance Nope.
MalcolmNance Impeachment is a vastly different standard than proving criminality
MalcolmNance This is just crap. When Trump stopped the whistleblower complaint from going to Congress HE BROKE THE LAW!!!! Who is sick of media 'legal anslysis' that doesn't even understand the law? Who is sick of hours and hours of mindless blabbering speculation?
MalcolmNance Lmmfao and rotmff here we go with the media muddying up the conversation even before it begins.just a couple of days ago they were putting out impeachment conversation. AGAIN PLAYING BOTH ENDS OF THE STICK! until it's a freedom of the press conversation that is.😂
Please- how ridiculous. Sit down!😒😒😒😡😡😡
MalcolmNance Bahahaha ok nbc corruptTraitorTrump
.... AMERICA DESERVES 'BETTER' THAN THIS.... WE AMERICANS WORK SO..SO HARD...IT IS.NOT FAIR THAT TRUMP CREATES ALL THESE PROBLEMS...CONFUSION .CHAOS...'TROUBLES'... P L E A S E... REPUBLICANS IN POWER...HELP US...IT IS EXHAUSTING... PEOPLE ARE GONNA DIE...DUE TO TRUMP'S IGNORANCE
There is a man with zero-peace.
Let's not fall into the trap of thinking that we should impeach only on the Ukraine matter. There are many other violations that should be included. No need to put all our eggs in one basket -- we have many baskets we can use.
^^^^ NBC walked into a trap - rushing to judgment
No mention of the real scandal involving Biden. Hmmm, wonder why.
2020 is around the corner
Sad misuse of brain power at NBC.
CentristRn It’s not a criminal question, it’s an abuse of power question. 100% impeachable right now.
He admitted to it.
My question. Was Pence involved in this mess as well?
That intangible power to conduct foreign affairs still doesn't exempt him from obeying the law. Period.
Assuming the POTUS is being sincere in his rhetoric he is pushing back on a very powerful political and economic force which all peoples of every sovereign country should help in his support!!! Pontifex POTUS realDonaldTrump
Fake News just hiding the truth about the despicable Joe Biden and Hunter Biden!
drumpf can't lie the toothpaste back in the tube.
So far it’s all alleged. Love how Dems and media just jump the gun then have a meltdown.
Another liberal coverup. Twisting the facts for their convenience. Protecting Hunter Biden and Joe Biden from crimes they committed in and with Ukraine. Crooked Hilary Clinton all over again!
It's not
He blocked the whistleblower report. Impeached
Hey NBC why are you altering photos?
Pertinent.
Blackmail and extortion seem pretty illegal to me.
What the hell ...
Is this allhonorable precedent withwhich to scrutinize every call, now?
Here is proof realDonaldTrump and mike_pence are both CORRUPT embezzlers and criminals. ewarren JoeBiden BernieSanders BetoORourke PeteButtigieg MaddowBlog
The election took several days but US President Trump did not even give a call to his close friend Netanyahu. Netanyahu was soj shocked that he even canceled a speech at the United Nations General Assembly this year and canceled the proposed meeting with Trump.
It is un-ethical, to say the least, for him to support, in any way, shape, or form, Russia's efforts to retake the European nations of the Ukraine and Georgia, including Crimea ...and absolutely an impeachable offense by a United States President.
Okay enough with the big words. Congress just needs to impeachtheuthaucka
Where was Congress when Joe Biden forced Ukraine president to dismiss its prosecutors for investigating Hunter Bidens corruption activities in their own country? Joe and Hunter are just as guilty of corruption yet the Democratic Party still backs them!
I’m sure Barf O’Kavanaugh will do what he was installed to do: protect Republicans from any responsibility whatsoever.
Its all such bullshit
18 U.S. Code § 641.Public money etc.'Whoever...retains [any money or thing of value of the United States] with intent to convert it to his use or gain, knowing it to have been embezzled, stolen, purloined or converted—...shall be fined...or imprisoned...'
The person IS NOT A WHISTLE-BLOWER! They did NOT hear anything first hand! So at best the psychotic loser is just another whiny, trouble-making, idle gossip out to get Trump!
Wait for the tape!
Has NBC done a single news story on Biden and his son and how absolutely corrupt they are? Trump is right. FakeJournalism DemocratControlled
Umm. Your entire story is made up based on speculation of things you have no proof even happened. FakeJournalism
Hey hey hey, keep it down. I’m kind of happy today.
ACTUALLY THE QUESTION IS WHY DID THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE CLAIMED THERE WAS NO PRESSURE IMPOSED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP? IMPEACHMENT FOR THIS WEAK CLAIM WILL TAKE THE WIND OUT OF ANY ACTUAL IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES IN THE FUTURE. SENATE WILL NOT IMPEACH TRUMP OVER THIS MSM BS CHAOS....
Your news IS A TOOL. Don’t believe anything you print.
Abuse of Power for effs sake. Impeachment doesn’t have to include criminality
Trump's impeachment should have a lot more than just the Ukraine treason.
The answer is No and No! He’s not king Donald, at least not to me.
Waste of tax payer money ..
So much Congress could be doing to help the American people.
😂😂😂😂
Considering no one has actually seen the transcript of the call, this is far fetched. Why not report on the news and not speculate about something you haven’t read?
Call me when your network actually reports unbiased news. Oh I guess that’s impossible so don’t call me.
Same old shit from NBC.
Trump2020Landslide
There is no shortage of realDonaldTrump impeachable deeds.
Nope. This is more than extorting Ukraine. It’s the abuse of power, emoluments, obstructing justice.....
Impeachment is not a court of law. It is a political tool. That is why Pelosi was so wise to hold on to it for so long. Trump would, of course, hang himself. It was just a matter of time.
The lame stream media and their Democrat handlers are so desperate that they will destroy the country before allowing Trump to win. This whole party is falling apart and going full blown Communist. They will take us into a full blown revolt to maintain power.
Why do I feel like the Democrats are walking into a huge trap?
Nope. Nothing here. But go check on Hunter Biden's deals.
Legal analyst ? What from NBC? Nothing was done, nothing will come of it. It’s Pelosi running scared of AOC and wanting to drum up money from Far Left Lunatics
How can you ask a foreign government to interfere in a election and it not be a crime
Thanks Einstein.
How is what Biden did any different then what the parent's did to get their kids into a top university?
Can you explain why I give a shit? He’s already due to be indicted for obstruction of justice MuellerReport . Get him out of office so the people can prosecute.
President Trump continues to make the Democrats and MSM look like fools.
Where do you dig up the hacks who write this garbage for you, NBC? The chucktodd school of fuckwittery? Even if POTUS has the power to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden, it’s a crime if he does it with criminal intent. End of analysis. I won’t hold my breath waiting on my check.
Cool! NBC is already playing the “If” game for when this all falls flat like Russiagate!
this FAKE news from NBC is always funny
The Jackasses haven’t even seen the complaint. Trump2020Landslide
Hey Corporate Media, stop trying to hard to give trump cover. You are showing your loyalities for $$$$ to help destroy American democracy.
Russian collusion—failed Obstruction—failed Tax returns—failed Emoluments—failed Recession hysteria—failed 'Trump is a racist'—failed Ukraine—likely another failure You cannot impeach The President just because you are angry that he won the election Just deal with it Dems
THE SECRET STORM
If power is by definition “intangible” it has no limits. Power without limitations is tyranny UN jacindaardern
He's not getting impeached you goofballs.
House of Cards with a precariously maintained veneer of sincere benevolence for the common man feels suddenly threatened by the prospect of being replaced by another house of cards with a precariously maintained veneer of sincere benevolence for the common man.
Foreign Nations have always reported crimes to United States, on drugs, terrorism etc. A sitting President has a right to inquire about suspected criminal activity broad.
I am not totally sold this is going to add up to much, Mueller certainly didn't.
What part of he hasn’t done anything wrong, don’t you understand?
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