The truth about Quebec's most famous and mysterious pie

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Fabien: And then one of the character tried to recall the recipe of pâté chinois … she said ground beef, corn, potatoes, no potatoes, corn, ground beef …Amanda: That’s right, no recipes. Despite this national obsession, no one, I mean no one, knows its origins. Amanda: On the night I turned 33, I was staring at a computer screen — on it, was my family tree, documented for me by my partner Elio on Ancestry. I always had some curiosity in the back of my mind about my heritage, but never had any real facts about where I came from. That all changed that night.

Amanda: My grandparents, my mémère and pépère, were Franco-American. They lived in Manchester, New Hampshire, a once bustling mill town on the Merrimack River.Amanda: That’s them right there. This is taken from a home video, recorded when I was a baby. I also grew up in Manchester. So did my dad. My mom grew up in a neighboring town called Goffstown. We’re a part of the roughly two million people living in New England who claim French Canadian heritage.

Amanda: That’s how Chinese pie spreads: from generation to generation, mother to daughter. My mom got her recipe from my grandmother. And I got mine from my mom. It’s made in many restaurants, but not often. And when it is, it's mostly in Quebec. No other province in Canada claims pâté chinois like Quebecers do. And it’s mostly kept within families and neighbors. Documented through recipe cards, but more often, through word of mouth.

Jack Lepiarz: N'est-ce pas là un étrange paradoxe d'être à la fois tous unis dans le même amour gustatif et également solidaires dans l’ignorance de son histoire … Amanda: Here’s how the legend goes: pâté chinois was created during the construction of the Canadian Pacific Railway. Paul: So the grand mystery to me is what the Chinese connection is, because in terms of ingredients, not so great. In terms of cultural history or culinary history, no connection either.

Amanda_Beland LastSeenPodcast I am a French Canadian descendent living in New England and grew up with shepherd's pie, hamburg, corn, mashed potatoes.

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