Some Holocaust survivors oppose 'concentration camp' comments. But they're also upset by treatment of migrants

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Are U.S. detention centers really, as some have suggested, concentration camps? Celina Biniaz doesn’t think so. To her, a concentration camp is a place where captives live in daily fear of being killed. She should know. At 13, she was in Auschwitz.

Migrants seeking asylum, including children, are held in a temporary transition area under the Paso Del Norte bridge in El Paso, Texas, in March.

The humanitarian crisis there has been sidetracked by a debate over language. The intent of those invoking the Holocaust comparison was clear: to issue a moral wake-up call for the country. Scores of Japanese American families were held at the Manzanar Relocation Center under Executive Order 9066. The U.S. Holocaust Museum issued a statement this week saying it “unequivocally rejects efforts to create analogies between the Holocaust and other events, whether historical or contemporary.”

“My mother talked about what it was like in school until they said she couldn’t go to school,” Elson said. “Then you couldn’t vote. And then you couldn’t have a job. Then you’re told you have to live in a certain neighborhood and then they build a wall around the neighborhood. That’s how it starts.”

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Yes, let’s continue to debate semantics.

And some have come out to declare support for the description.

If fear of eminent death is what differentiates detention facilities from concentration camps, then the death of at least six children while in ICE custody would clearly qualify them as concentration camps.

Did they exist under Obama?

Hmm... it’s a concentration of immigrants from American countries that aren’t the US and they’re being held against their will. Sounds about right to me.

Concentration camp is a reserved trade mark of the jews.

We feed them frozen burritos and frozen sandwiches for meals, we keep them crammed in cages way past their capacity, we don’t give them toothbrushes or showers, we don’t give them proper medical care, they suffer sexual and physical abuse: what do you call it then?

Making these children suffer by the hands of our government policies is so bloody disgusting. It’s all about the $$$

Why not report facts or should I step in & hell you?! These places were not created by this Admin. Or Obama’s or Bush’s it was created to hold a good amount while they were getting info now you get 1,000’s in one time CBP we’re not trained to “house” illegals overwhelmed😡😤🧐

5 months later: LA Times: “Are they really killing children in these camps, or are they, as some critics have suggested, simply letting them die? We can’t act until we can confirm this difference.”

In the 40’s Nazis captured Jews across Poland, later separating millions of them between four different concentration camps. Executions, gas chambers, and burning them alive. Does this sound like the same treatment happening at our borders? NO. democraticpropaganda

these camps are meant to keep them safe. especially minors, kids, children.

They’re only concentration camps to loudmouth liberals who are looking for TV time and attention. Any time Democrats can discredit Jewish people they do it.

Well they do look like Trumps and his Jewish pals ghettos to me

Let’s get it straight who cares if anyone is offended about calling them what they are .. concentration camp! Also any one who is making any excuse or dismissive about what is going on is racist and an asshole

Unless all the accepted dictionaries are wrong, yes they are ConcentrationCamps

They are by definition concentration camps. They are detaining people and limiting their freedoms. Whether you call it a concentration camp, a holding pen or a prison, it is beneath the principles of the United States.

Yes

Yeah...let’s go ahead and debate the level at which these kids are being mistreated. ANY DEGREE OF MISTREATMENT IS UNACCEPTABLE STOP THIS HORSE SHIT

Liberals go educate yourselves!

Yes they are! They are now all abusesurvivor and need protection from both becoming an abuser and from the cycle of reliving abuse with everyone they meet. They also need EDUCATED immediately on what the CYCLE OF ABUSE entails so they can prevent becoming another statistic

Not sure why you’d ask a question with such an obvious answer

No they aren’t

No.

The media sure does have a lot of photos from Obama's detention camps in 2014 that they love to attach to current articles. I wonder why they didn't share them then?

You libs invented concentration camps in the US. Your god and master, Franklin Roosevelt, without any due process at all, hunted, rounded up, and bodily moved US citizens into these camps. 2000 died there, mostly from TB. You libs were enemies to the US then and are now.

Obama would live his camps

J.F.C.!?

Too bad- the term is not owned by those who suffered in WWII. It is a description of a place holding humans that is NOT up to par with humane standards. I'm sure we can all agree the tRumpcamps fits this description.

YES! Stupid article.

Those survivors who oppose this comparison probably wish they had as an easy solution to avoid being held in any center

Where was the outrage during O’boob’s reign? Ohhhhhh right, the outrage is not real, it’s selective.

Various dictionaries define concentration camps as compounds imprisoning aliens, ethnic minorities, political prisoners, etc., without requiring specific purposes such as execution. Hence, Tule Lake and the migrant detention centers could arguably be called concentration camps.

Fuck you LA times. They are concentration camps. Kids are dying and being treated worse than any criminals, for what? Because their parents wanted better lives? No soap, no adequate food, dirt floors, foil blankets. We are better than this. But apparently our media isn’t.

Yes

What else would they be called? We are literally interning children crossing our southern border and concentrating them in these camps, where they are sleeping on concrete floors with an emergency blanket and no hygiene products. ConcentrationCamps

You're really spending your time debating semantics over this modern day atrocity? I don't think anyone disagrees that both situations resulted in untold, permanent trauma to the victims. I am very sympathetic to Holocaust victims, and equally sympathetic to immigrant victims.

Liberals are idiots.

The Trump® brand Concentration Camps are concentration camps. They are not, yet, death camps.

Most Americans with a brain can see through the heart RENching propaganda

GOP doublespeak parsing. On the basis of race, children are being imprisoned, tortured, and likely, not irrationally, fear for their lives. Some are dying, like Anne Frank, from diseases brought on by unsanitary inhumane conditions. It's a concentration camp.

That is one kind of concentration camp. The definition is broader than. That.

Libs conveniently forget it was their lord and god, Franklin Rooosevelt, who invented concentration camps in the US. He ordered, with absolutely no due process, the hunting, rounding up, and interment of 120,000 US citizens. Libs are truly the enemy of Americans.

I have to disagree. The children have different fears. They are in fear of death but a different kind of death from the Nazi concentration camps. It’s death from lack of care and it’s called child abuse. Children are dying under these conditions.

So these 'victims', knowing they'll be put in 'concentration camps', keep surrendering to border patrol to be sent there? 🤨 Stop exaggerating everything!!! 🤬

Disconbobulated: Inability to manage situation; SNAFU, government incompetance.

This is why we need to send the US Troops in to rescue those in cages and help send them back to their home countries, just like they did in WW2

Key phrase being, 'to her...'. Concentration camps have a definition. Some were far worse than others. That doesn't magically make ours something other than a concentration camps.

Kul

Nothing that entails anything having to do with Jews... a word that was obviously created perhaps before the holocaust?

I find it hard to believe that she knows how THESE people feel. I also find it disgusting that this article is softening the caging of humans on American soil. 🖕🏽

It’s a figure of speech for crying out loud... Could have very well said ghetto... So define what exactly is a concentration camp... “A place where large numbers of people , especially persecuted minorities are imprisoned deliberately... NOTHING ABOUT JEWS....

Fear doesn’t have a one definition when a child is taken away with no knowledge of when they will see their parent again, having the flu til death and seeing someone die of being sick thats is a fear with no mother to comfort, just stop the insanity its just horrible

Trump tried to quickly deport them, but the Democrats didn't like that. Therefore the only option was to keep them locked up. The option that is not going to happen, is a catch and release.

Hey LA Times, Washington Post, New York Times, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, Liberal Media, Kamala Harris is a scam artist, she is not African-American, she is a Jamaican-Indian, hoping to scam blacks to vote for her, better get your stories straight, it's all over the Internet

The captive children immigrants don’t even speak our national language and as children have no way of reasoning out what is happening to them. Why do victims of Nazis always think it could only happen to them? Jews are not the only people who have ever been victimized.

Wondering if they feel the same about kids in Gaza. Asking for Gazans.

THERE IS NO COMPARISON. IT IS AN INSULT TO THE PLIGHT OF KILLING JEWS FOR BEING JEWS. NOBODY IS KILLING ANYBODY FOR UNLAWFULLY ENTERING THE COUNTRY UNDER FALSE PRETENSES. THEY OVERRUN OUR FACILITIES AND WE TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THE BEST WE CAN. STOP LYING!

Bingo

These kids are being encouraged to die by the living conditions they are placed in. I am so sorry for what you went through and I respect your opinion, keep informing me, I don't see the difference.

Feels good to not be a subscriber when I see this trash.

This isn't a contest for sentimentality or emotions. It is what it is.

This is so stupid.....

Asylum seekers are in fear of being killed also

Thes people ran to be there. They know and knew what this place is . It is not a secret place to hold people against their will I'm sure if they wanted out on the Mexican side of the border they are free to go .

My outrage is that our own government is being denied access. We are paying them to take care of these children and we can not see how they are spending our money 🧐❤️🇺🇸❤️🌎

How do u know they are not afraid of losing their lives, some have

Not this again.

POTUS

Camps in USA holding Japanese Americans were considered concentration camps. They did not live in daily fear of death. Camps in China w/100k plus Muslims are concentration camps. We're in denial.

Sad, she’s decided to ignore the collective memory.

Hey LAT, compare and contrast the homeless encampments in your backyard and the detention centers at the border. Which have worse conditions? There is trash and rodents everywhere downtown. People are coming down with typhus.

El racista, misógino y homofóbico

I guess living in fear of dying from poor conditions technically IS a little different than living in fear of being killed.

Why is this a story worth writing? Seems to me every word on the topic of immigrants and refugees in cages should discuss the conditions of the immigrants and refugees in cages, not the nomenclature we use to describe the cages. CloseTheCamps

Having experienced neither, I can’t comment.

How does she know they don’t feel that way?

Not how it works but sure, whatever. Let's agree and just focus on the kids if you people can't get past semantics to see suffering and unnecessary cruelty.

We will make bridges to understand each other.

No, they aren't concentration camps and it's a pretty ignorant thing to say or even ask.

Another stupid analogy and an absolute mockery of those that perished at Auschwitz.

you should never compare any camp with Auschwitz...

That is sad and as she is Auschwitz survivor she has my most humble respect, I wish she obtain knowledge and wisdom not to bend to political forces to make this Incorrect statement.

Agreed. The treatment of these children is awful, but it’s not the beginning of a campaign of genocide. Things must change, both in the US and their countries of origin.

A lot of bad takes by the libs.

How does she know what the kids are feeling? Has she been inside?

Nobody walks towards a concentration

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