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U.S. House Democrats made objections to election results in 2001, 2005 and 2017, when the losing candidate had already conceded. They were mostly symbolic measures.

, Biden gaveled down House Democrats who objected to Trump’s win because they did not have support from a senator.

The history of Democrats objecting to Republican presidential winners was documented by Derek T. Muller, a professor at the University of Iowa College of Law, in an"Then as now, each member of Congress was within his or her rights to make an objection," Muller wrote."But the objections were naïve at best, shameless at worst. Either way, the readiness of members of Congress to disenfranchise millions of Americans was disconcerting.

Muller told PolitiFact that legally speaking, there was no difference between Democratic objections in prior years and Republican objections in 2021, though circumstances around those votes were different.on the House Republican Conference tweet that House Jan. 6 Committee chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., voted to object to Ohio’s slate in 2005, when the electoral votes from the 2004 election were officially counted in a joint session of Congress.

Some Democrats filed objections in 2001, 2005, and in 2017, following elections that Republicans won. But the circumstances were different from those in 2021. In the earlier years, the losing candidate had already conceded. After the 2020 election, Trump was trying to overturn the election, and he had met with some House Republicans to further that goal. In the previous years, not even the losing candidates were seeking to overturn the results.

Because the statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information, we rate this Mostly True.

 

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Why is it that when the Dems get caught you signify 'mostly true', but with Republicans, it's 'Pants on Fire'? Your bias is hanging out there for all to see, and your credibility is what's really on fire.

You’re not really trying to justify this, are you? I mean, it’s just pro forma, am I right? There’s no way you’re trying to say it’s not the exact same thing…🤔 RIGHT?

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I love how the russia hoax was mostly a symbolic gesture. How symbolic. Best use of symbolism ever. politifake

Bahahahahahahahaha 'They were mostly symbolic measures'

SingleMommy0210 All the millions of damage, destroyed property and injured cops at the 2017 inauguration was symbolic?

SingleMommy0210 All the millions of damage, destroyed property and injured cops at the 2017 inauguration was symbolic?

Not sure if they were “symbolic”, but they were certainly legal and did not result in any convictions, riots, or deaths [or death threats]

Learn to code you troglodytes

The claim is true, but we would like to spin it differently so....

'it's different when we do it' What a great fact check, you absolute joke.

Good Lord you guys split hairs and when you do, it's always to the benefit of one side. You are a worthless opinion proped up to allow low IQ people feel like they won an argument on the internet.

Politifact is a misnomer. Politifancy would be more accurate.

lmao 'symbolic measures'

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It's funny how when the the Republicans started with their objections, the doors were breached at the Capitol. Hmm....

No one listens to u propagandists

Clown world

You guys are pathetic. There’s no way you don’t see it.

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Oh. Symbolic. Hmm.

They voted against certifying the election. How is that symbolic?

Looool, you guys are such a joke

“They were mostly symbolic measures”—fact checker/mind reader

So, true?

The Democrat’s decades of election legitimacy denial and misinformation was mostly symbolic, expert fact checkers say

Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. It’s obviously different when Democrats deny election results 👍🏻

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They used the Logan Act as a predicate to investigate an incoming administration for “colluding with Russia” to “steal the election” which was a complete fairy tale that undermined faith in the outcome. But it’s different because 800 goofballs didn’t have a riot or something.

Symbolic gestures huh? BS. The left doesn’t think any election they can’t win or steal isn’t legit

Bro

So the four years of investigations, impeachments, and declarations of 'he's an illegitimate president' were all 'symbolic?' Then I guess Democrats won't mind if Republicans return the symbolic favor.

You absolute clowns

Mostly. Does a lot of heavy lifting for lying leftists. Mostly peaceful. Mostly not fiery.

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Mostly symbolic, hahahahahha

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The corporate press are the enemy of the people

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So that means the whole thing was to aggressively try to delegitimize the whole election and president?

B.S.

“Mostly” hahahah

Politifact

'Mosly symbolic' 🤡

I have a cousin that works as a fact checker. He tells the family he works as a child trafficker for snuff films.

Ah yes, It's (D)ifferent when Democrats do something bad, it's symbolic! Honestly, I hope the writers for politifact are sick with themselves at knowingly writing propaganda for a political party, but I know they aren't. They would have to have basic decency first.

Pro tip: If you're trying to judge people's motives, you're not checking facts.

PolitiFullofShit

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And the Dems trying to throw out the military votes in Florida back in 2000. We remember, nematodes.

So according to Politfact Democrats committed treason using the standards Democrats invented in 2020.

LOL partisan clowns

Lol

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Your fact checks are mostly symbolic.

Same energy.

Bwahahahahahahaha

Umm please show me the candidates who tried to overturn the results of the elections. I'll save you the trouble. It's zero. Zero. Get help y'all

Editorial 🚨: “They were mostly symbolic measures.”

Who picked the word 'symbolic'?

This has been another edition of the stellar journalistic use of the word “mostly”

is a propaganda arm of the dnc.

“symbolic” 🙃

You're not even trying anymore

'It's different when we do it' jillterreri

Reported for disinformation

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trying to sell the 'it's (D)ifferent' line.

Senators Obama and Clinton attacked and weakened our democracy that day in 2005.

Why add the editorial sentence? Hacks.

“They were mostly symbolic measures,” doing a ton of heavy lifting.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

I have never seen a more hypocritical version... I remember the women with disgusting hats. It was Sedition.

In other words, it's okay when Democrats question election integrity. But not Republicans.

Symbolic fact checkers

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So symbolic is ok?

Buuuullshiy

APFactCheck factcheckdotorg As the saying goes.......who's watching the watchers!

Mehhhh Mostly , tell us the parts you don’t want to.

'mostly symbolic'

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“It’s (D)ifferent when we do it”. Fixed it for you. This is why CNN and other media outlets are losing all credibility, hemorrhaging money, viewers and staff

Delete this

And as usual this is complete bull shit and politically biased

Agreed. And more importantly, they were Democrats cryi--complaining about the elections, not Republicans. That makes all the difference.

Symbolic? Maybe you should look up the 2017 electoral certification.

It was (D)ifferent those times. . ..

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Bullshit... it's completely true

So, they're democracy hating insurrectionists. Gotcha.

Symbolizing WHAT?

Killary is still doing it

Symbolic

Remember, folks - the Democrats want these 'unbiased' fact checkers to decide what you are allowed to read on the Internet. If you disagree with the assertion that Democrat challenges were 'mostly symbolic,' then you are accused spreading 'lies' and 'misinformation.'

This doesn't even count barrage of Democrat election challenges that occur every two years aside from the presidential election.

And by 'mostly true,' we mean '100% true, repeatedly, and in a far more egregious capacity than any Republican election challenge in history.'

' mostly symbolic '. That's false

Democrats did not refuse to accept the results, stage a coup, and continue to say it was stolen. Objections and investigations are normal. Coups aren't.

You just couldn't help yourselves. Please at least pretend to exclude opinions.

What a crock of Shit!

I could never clown you guys better than you clown yourselves.

You are a despicable organization.

Bull crap...PolitiFake, do your damn jobs and be fair to both sides without bias...!

liar

PolitiHACK--

Its ok because we agreed with it, and here's why....

Symbolic measures. The fact that Democrats objected to election results is what matters. Democrats are election deniers.

Watch the doc Kill Chain. Apparently Dominion machines were so easy to hack/manipulate that Kamala said she was able to do it herself. She also said that the machines do in fact connect to the internet. Dems had a totally different opinion then. They were all election deniers.

I think people remember how Democrats behave when they lose. Not sure why you need to 'fact check' the obvious.

Fact: Nobody stormed the Capitol or refused to accept the results for years. Don't let those facts get in the way of your 'both sides' defense

Gotta add that caveat to please your handlers.

WRONG!!!! HillaryClinton STILL has not conceded that she lost!

Do you remember when they kept finding ballots for Al Franken in car trunks?

'They were mostly symbolic measures' Nice caveat there 😒

'mostly symbolic' 'mostly peaceful'

I’m guessing it’s (D)ifferent when they do it, right?

This is such bullshit and you know it but continue with the narrative anyway. We are not stupid on the right but apparently you think the left is because I guarantee this is being used in an argument by a lefty all day every day.

Can you do a fact check on what words mean in the English language?

They objected, tried to block certification which failed. HOW ABOUT FACTS nstead of excuses. NOW DO - Democrats embezzled tax dollars in sabotaging a Presidency via Federal Agencies abusing positions to fabricate & perjure themselves to frame innocent men and undermine the US.

Stop with the idea that those democrats were 'symbolically' contesting an election result. Way to put a softening word in there to protect democrats Politifact just showed how biased they are by using that word. Politifact is just an arm of the democrat party.

NOPE They were serious.. stop white washing Dems corruption.

Symbolic measures my eye. Politifact is leftist propaganda peddling more word salad.

ANYONE with resist in their Twitter handle, or hashtagged resist, or marched in demonstrations following the 2016 election, contributed to the political atmosphere by not accepting the 2016 election results.

So 'mostly symbolic measures' is the official spin. Got it. One side does it, bad. Other side does it, just symbolic nothing to see here. 🙄🙄🙄

Symbolic!! BULL SHIT!!

You can’t be serious? 😂🤡

Decent and objections are the highest sign of patriotism if you are a democrat, if it's a republican it's an insurrection. Thanks for clarifying that.

Always carrying the water for democrats.

Total false equivalence. Dems objected within the rules and conventions of congress and the nation. The GOP tried ignoring votes against them, falsifying records, putting fake electors in place, and incited a riot at the nation's capital that got 6 people killed.

You are not serious people. Activists masquerading as fact checkers.

It's ok to be an election denier if you're a Democrat.

It means they don’t believe in elections. Hence they’re traitors

Trump conceded too,

'symbolic measures'

Holy fucking spin job!!!

Politifact- Mostly bullshit.

The Democrats are danger to democracy as you have shown

kentuckydan Mostly symbolic flames.

LOLLLLLLLLL. Fact check: is a democrat cum rag

Oh dear. This is the 2nd time I'm five minutes I've felt the need to comment on one of your shitty takes. Please stop it. 'It's different when we do it' is NOT a good look. 🙄

'The (D) actually do what we accuse the (R) of at a significantly higher frequency but it's for reasons we approve of so it's ok.' You don't even try anymore. Hacks.

“Mostly symbolic” 😂 😂

They were correct in 2001 and we still have no idea what happened in Ohio in 04. Should amend that fact.

I watched with my own eyes so stop lying to the people!!

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is just leftwing damage control.

Took y'all long enough to come up with a semi horrible spin...

It’s okay when we do it

2016, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, last week at a forum, a couple of days ago on network TV.

Mostly True? This is why no one trusts the media, Snopes and fake fact checkers like you

'these exact same things are completely different'

'False: because it's different if a Democrat does it'

Only those with ZERO morals and integrity would say such a thing. But it's what is expected of your kind.

Al Gore took his contesting of the 2000 election all the way to the Supreme Court. And the entire Democrat/media complex pushed the Russia collusion hoax to subvert the results of the 2016 election and force Trump out of office. Hardly symbolic in either case.

Reported for disinformation.

At least with Babylon Bee their shit is funny. You clowns give clowns a bad name.

Wow...you actually wrote this.

And Stacey Abrams’ refusal to lose the Georgia Governor race gracefully in 2018 was mostly symbolic as well. It’s not like she went on a media tour sowing doubt in the electoral process for three years.

The fact that dems have objected to election results is true. Your editorializing is false.

Mostly, accept the bought and paid for Russian haox.

Politi'fact'.

An yes the double standard of when Ds call elections fraudulent they continue calling them fraudulent for decades but when Rs call election fraud they get persecuted as “nazis” The pendulum swing will be furious

You’re utterly (D)isgraceful.

'Symbolic' is code for they didn't storm the Capital. Democratic journalists are not going to let that one go.

Yeah, symbolic, totally, they really weren't begging electors to change the vote....

'Mostly true.' 'It was symbolic.' Absolute bullshit. Everyone alive from then 100% remembers it was obviously not a symbolic thing and they - literally - believed the election was illegitimate.

The 'conceded' is a loophole to circumvent anyone saying Jan. 6 was symbolic.

How is this not just true smh

Resist these facts!

'Mostly'

Totally (D)ifferent when they (D)o it...

Well that’s total bullshit.

So they are fascists!

So what you’re actually saying is “it’s okay when they do it”. You people disgust me.

😂😂😂 ooo so they are election deniers 😮😮😮

PolitiFact is not trustworthy

QuinnTelsa Liars. Gore took FL to court. That’s not symbolic.

Secure our elections so that there are no doubts about the validity. ID required. No Mail in Ballots. No votes allowed after Election Day. Results posted next day.

Of course, they're leaving out important details. Like in 2000, the Blackhawk is wanted to decertify Florida votes and they all walked out of the certification process, while Democrats applauded them.

Clinton called Trump an illegitimate president in what, 2020? GFY “fact” checkers.

I notice you have to add an obligatory excuse for them, since you're on the same side. 'mostly symbolic'

Poynter Institute trash.

When Democrats dispute elections, it's 'symbolic' -- when Republicans dispute elections it's 'domestic extremism' Democrat Rule 3: 'That's different!'

The thought process behind this tweet: 'It's good to have standards. We should have twice as many. Republicans have standards, but we are better because we have double standards'

Take the L, horrible take.

There is a shocking ambivalence to the lying that is rife in our society from every side. It's really gross

Oh good grief. Hey PolitiFact, your BIAS is showing again…

The difference is, 2020 was fraudulent, and progressives staged J6 riots so they could artificially stop electoral objections and protect Biden's fraudlection.

Ahhh wwhat? Democrats underminded democracy for show? FFS.

Fake news You wouldn't report the truth even if she kick you on your butt. Frauds

The words you are looking for are “Entirely Fucking True”

Symbolically denying they can lose. Huh.

Idiots

Don't bother fact checking your lies.

Your name should be PolitiHacks, instead of Politifact..👍👍

I'm told this is a threat to democracy.

No investigation into the riots...umm

Symbolic of what?

Dem racist insurrection

Insurrection! NewRules

My entire voting life the losing party questioned the results of the election. Why stop now when it benefits both parties. Escalate, project, sow division. A non auditable election bears the full presumption of fraud.

You're doing great

Bull-sh’tifact.

Do you have to have an IQ below 50 to work for PolitiFact?

That does not make difference. Besides now you are throwing your opinion in, nice

And yet the election denial persists.

Is this a parody account?

'They were mostly symbolic measures.' ---Bad but not even remotely as bad as the scores Republicans the scores meant it knowing their claims were bullshit.

It’s only ok when Democrats do stuff. Then they weaponize the full power of Federal Government against their enemies when they do the same.

NoShit

GrapeSmuggler76 A whole bunch of nothing just to say it's true, but these other 'insert irrelevant crap' happened so.... STill happened, so go tell msnbc nobody believes you anymore, your not a real fact checker, your a bias checker.

God could you be more of a coward?

You worthless pukes don't even try to pretend you are telling the truth. Lies roll off your lips like clinton's 'fizz' on a blue dress....

This is embarrassing!

'They were mostly symbolic measures' they attempted to stage a soft coup using the FBI in 2017.

Last sentence is speculative opinion and not fact.

Using mere adjectives to qualify wrong doings that's affecting many lives today isn't symbolic... Imagine spotting out results of over 20years. Let's get things right, vote the right candidate and we move...

Were they 'mostly peaceful' too? Lol

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PolitiCrap at it again.

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Are you finally admitting that Democrats are election deniers? While you’re at it, add in Stacey Abrams to the list of Democrat election deniers.

PolitiLie.

And the protests that burned down majority minority neighborhoods and businesses were 'mostly peaceful.' continues to be a complete 🤡show.

'Politifact is non-partisan and reliable.' Rated '7 pinnochios with their pants on fire braying like the asses his companions turned into at pleasure island'

Shorter version-Its ok when we do it.🤡🤡🤡

You think we're stupid. Eat 💩

'Mostly'? So which parts were election-denying coup attempts? And, in response, the 1/6 demonstration at the Capitol was totally symbolic.

Woke is an insane cult.

extraordinary

Further proof there is no low politihack isn’t willing to find. Mostly true is the equivalent of saying kind of pregnant

OMG! HOW DID WE EVER SURVIVE THE END OF DEMOCRACY THEN…… 🙄

Omfg You people are EVILLLLLLL How could anyone vote blue how they gas light us

There were riots when Trump won... hardly symbolic

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Thank you for proving you’re a completely biased garbage heap of a “fact check” organization and only exist to protect the Left. The fact that you’re paid by facebook & instagram to censor every Conservative is pure comedy.

Lol clowns

What you know is the truth isn’t really the truth.

sYmBoLiC mEaSuReS

Me: what’s the only thing lower than journalists? Everyone: whale sh1t at the bottom of the ocean. Me: Lower than that. Everyone: Fact checkers

Are you fucking kidding?

Uh. Hillary said her election was stolen from her 3 years later.

At least Gunga Din died a hero after carrying all that water…

You don’t even hear your hypocrisy do you.

Hanging chads.

If 'politifact' says something, the opposite is definitely true.

I guess the entire fake Russian hoax story was normal?

He only difference is that it was a Democrat doing it. In the case of Hillary, the Democrats launched their AntiFa shock troops to lead a violent riot on inauguration day which did more damage than January 6 riot.

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Attn: RepRaskin

PolitiBullshit

It's ok when we do it ~ Democrats

This tweet is less so a fact check and moreso programming for the midwits that are looking for their new “gotcha” when arguing with their grandmother on FB

AKA 'It's okay when WE do it!'

They tried to get electors to switch their votes.

What’s “mostly” symbolic?

This fact check is embarrassing.

Is your partisan bias mostly symbolic?

Or they weren’t and this is how the democrats roll

Well I'll be a hanging chad, fancy that!

Still carrying water for the Marxists I see.

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Fixed it for you lapdogs

... symbolic of what ? ... the idiocy of the Left ?

Can you fact check this too? No?

Lol Election deniers

The witch hunt continues to this day. How could you be so disingenuous?

At least no one takes you seriously

HAHAHAHAHA!!! SURE!!!

Hypocrisy Politifact is thy name...

'They were mostly symbolic measures.' This is your thumb on the scale. But I'm sure you are completely aware of that and don't give a shit.

You are partisan hacks

hi TwitterSupport this seems like misleading information about elections... politics... is election interference promoting false information to promote one side during election season... do the right thing and suspend its account.

It’s okay if you just admit the fact that there are two distinct standards of behavior in US politics. 1. That republicans are supposed to play by the rules and roll over and take it; offer no resistance and 2. Democrats are never held accountable for anything.

Trust in the media is at an all time low. Here is another example of why.

'It's different when they do it.' - Shillary I think is still claiming her election was taken from her! You guys (the ENTIRE LEFT!) are a sad and 🤡ish bunch!

How many times did Al Gore concede?

This shame fact checking is funded by the very liberal Tampa Times. What you would expect from Democrats.

Sure. This is an absolute lie. The fat gal in Georgia still claims she won in 2018. The current white house spokesman also disputes the 2018 Georgia Governor election. Democrats did the same in 2016.

What makes it symbolic? Because you say so, because you want to help the Dems?

Lol

'mostly symbolic measures'

Last sentence sounds a lot like an opinion

“mostly symbolic” except for the fucking riots huh?

'Mostly symbolic', exactly how the murderous George Floyd protests were 'Mostly peaceful' as federal buildings burned. You clowns. Thanks for confirming that Democrats are the dangerous hypocrites we know they are.

Politifact when Dems do it.

Multiple Dems protested State electors on the House floor. But it was “mostly symbolic”since they were ruled against.

But did pipes burst in Georgia?

Al Gore conceded then withdrew his concession and didn't concede again until late December when he had exhausted all avenues and put the country through several conveniently selected recounts and court battles

Was that last part fact or your opinion?

'symbolic' lol

This is a very soft evaluation... Jan was also symbolic (Grant it embarrassing) given that group couldn't change the outcome either.

Gd i despise politifact.

Now do Stacey Abrams. You are a joke with ZERO credibility!

It’s (D)ifferent.

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Opinions in their fact check again Timcast

“Steve Scalise wasn’t shot at a Congressional softball game; he simply caught a bullet with his hip - which led to internal bleeding.”

You should just go ahead and remove fact from your name

Jan 6 was a symbolic measure.

Politifart has spoken. Past challenges to elections were symbolic.

Lol okay, hacks

Someone needs to fact check the fact checkers

Fact check: False

election deniers!!

'It's okay when we do it' There's your translation

Translation: It is only an issue when republicans object to election results.

Accusations are now symbolic 👌

Concession isn't binding.

Tell me you’re a partisan Democrat without telling me.

Insurrection

It’s one thing to call yourself a fact checker while only selectively setting up narratives to obtain an end result you want because of your bias. It’s another to keep calling yourself a fact checker with the long history of promoting bias absent of actual facts

How do you know they were symbolic measures , you’re able to divine intent or you just agreed with them ?

that's nonsense, the people making the objections didn't think they were symbolic

They weren’t “mostly symbolic”. You don’t get to wave it away because it failed.

Of course you're ignoring the context behind 2001 and 2017.

“Everything is fine when Democrats do it.” -Totally principled fact checkers.

“ Symbolic” !! Symbolic of Insurrection

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So...Stacey Abrams isn't running for RE-ELECTION?

Why stop at 2017 'The 2018 Democratic candidate for governor, [staceyabrams], also refused to concede to her Republican opponent, [BrianKempGA]' 'Abrams...quiet for 10 days' 'She made a careful statement...'not a speech of concession'' 'Lost by nearly 55,000 votes' ⬇️ NPR

Ahahahaha

Politipinion

State run media

I'm gonna take exception. Ms. Clinton was still giving speeches in 2019 about how 'you can do everything right and still have the election stolen from you.'

Would House Democrats have stopped if they had a Senator back their objection?

So it was only stochastic insurrection, then.

Hypocrisy You all don’t even hide it anymore

Delete last sentence. It’s not a fact.

The last sentence is opinion and does not belong in a “fact check.”

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