One Day at a Time: Mackenzie Phillips Wants to Help America Recover

and/or virtual meetings can play a larger role in helping people with addictions going forward after Covid-19?: That's an interesting question. I know that a lot of people struggled with the virtual aspect of recovery-based meetings because we want to connect with people because if active addiction is isolation, then recovery must be connection.

For some people, it works great because they don't have to get in the car, sit in the waiting room, spend an hour, then drive home in traffic. They love it, it works for them. It's great. A lot of other people do not thrive in that type of [situation]. They need to be face-to-face. They need to be in the room with the person.

I think that, especially for women who have relapsed, there's an element of shame, so we hide what's really going on in order to continue to be that sort of sacred vessel of motherhood or womanhood. And everybody hurts, everybody struggles, and we don't need to struggle or suffer in silence. There are so many ways to get help. There are so many resources out there. We talk a lot about this struggle on America Recovers, and we talk a lot about the struggles of women.

: The impetus for it was that Brad and I worked together at Breathe Life Healing Center. Our offices are two doors away from each other, and we're with each other every day, and we have these lively conversations about patient care and recovery. We go out and speak at different conferences in different places.

Brad came up with this podcast because we have such a lively friendship and working relationship, and he thought we could turn that into a resource for people, a landing spot for people who are addicted, afflicted or affected in some way by substance use disorder or mental health struggles — and all different forms of recovery are available for all different forms of struggle. So, Brad spearheaded the whole idea. I'm just along for the ride.

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