New York’s true nursing home death toll cloaked in secrecy

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Unlike every other state with major nursing home outbreaks, New York only counts resident deaths that occur in the home, not in hospitals. That could make New York's official toll, already among the nation's highest, a significant undercount.

FILE - In this June 15, 2020, file photo, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo removes a mask as he holds a news conference in Tarrytown, N.Y. New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who died in hospitals.

How big a difference could it make? Since May, federal regulators have required nursing homes to submit data on coronavirus deaths each week, whether or not residents died in the facility or at a hospital. Because the requirement came after the height of New York’s outbreak, the available data is relatively small.

“Look at the basic facts where New York is versus other states,” Cuomo said during a briefing Monday. “You look at where New York is as a percentage of nursing home deaths, it’s all the way at the bottom of the list.” To be sure, comparing coronavirus deaths in nursing homes across states can be difficult because of the differences in how states conduct their counts. New York is among several states that include probable COVID-19 deaths as well as those confirmed by a test. Some states don’t count deaths from homes where fewer than five have died. Others don’t always give precise numbers, providing ranges instead. And all ultimately rely on the nursing homes themselves to provide the raw data.

 

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Cuomo is screwed

I don’t blame cuomo, I don’t blame Trump. I believe they’re both doing what they believe is the best course of action

NewYork is corrupt, the governor needs to be held accountable

What say you NYGovCuomo? Cooking the books?

Doing a great job Mr wear your mask

Why are their death rates double though

Weird...theres no one 'protesting' in front of his house.

Cuomo is the most incompetent governor in the country.

NY Governor should be in JAIL!

LdyNJ1 So it turns out that NursingHomeKiller Cuomo has caused far more than triple the deaths from 9/11attacks.

NYGovCuomo Is more worried about presidential optics for his future

This is a huge story. Cuomo tries to underplay it during his daily fireside chats, but it’s not going away.

Everything about NY is corrupt. Haven’t y’all seen that by now? Amazing NYGovCuomo still even has an audience.

BallRyne OneMansDrunk so, everyone gets to decide how the death toll is counted independently? Garbage....

dhibbs5 - indefensible

Wow reasonable people suspected this to be true but now that the ap is reporting.....cuomo over reacted to the pandemic. Sending nursing homes patients back to the nursing homes because he didn’t want to over run hospitals which never got over run...the dangers of overreacting

jetrotter If you found some sticks on fire, would you pick them up and throw them onto some dry grass that was not on fire? That's what NY did here. They fueled a massive fire instead of containing a small fire.

why is Cuomo not in prison on murder charges?

Lol. He's going to jail.

Uhhh... yeah. U guys are late to the party. If Cuomo was an R you’d be calling him a mass murderer.

Thank you AP for reporting on a story that should have been told months ago. The families of loved ones deserve the truth.

Cuomo is a complete failure.

There’s 13,000 vacant beds in NY nursing homes. Just saying.

RitaPanahi He must be held accountable!

But this is all Trump's fault! You cannot be placing blame on the governor are you?

Hi mbk7285

Hero Governor did a great job!

Ohhhh, you are going to be in big trouble for reporting the truth.

Shaking my head NYGovCuomo. My guess is ClayTravis will have a field day with this one.

The nations highest. Try the highest is the world. NY&NY radically skew our death rate.

CCamosy Cuomo, let's own the truth.

What a shit show

You’ve been sleeping for months. Start reporting

Fucking murder. Why he's not in chains I don't know .

ndmajor1

But Nipple boy is available for escort service

Not significant, more deliberate.

Wow, another case of the liberal media running cover for a criminal Democrat. Real shocker.

“....that his state’s percentage of nursing home deaths out of its overall COVID-19 death toll is around 20%, far less than Pennsylvania’s 68%, Massachusetts’ 64% and New Jersey’s 44%.”

“Another group of numbers also suggests an undercount. State health department surveys show 21,000 nursing home beds are lying empty this year, 13,000 more than expected — an increase of almost double the official state nursing home death tally.”

“Even if half that undercount had held true from the start of the pandemic, that would translate into thousands more nursing home resident deaths than the state has acknowledged.”

Omg. Are u serious

impeach cuomo !!! damn liar

NYGovCuomo Governor, New Yorkers deserve the truth

Yes

Lies lies and more lies!!! Disgusting

Nbell3 I am sure it was unintentional, right?!

He is undercounting by 60 to 70 percent.

And yet, Cuomo good Abbott bad. The left and the media (I know, same) are a real Hoot! 🤣

TonyBrunoShow My God. Someone actually reporting on this. Thank you.

And they still killed twice as many as any other state. Had empty ship availalable. No send them to nursing home.

seanmdav The cumulative death count of Gates[Globalist vaccination agenda], Killary [hits authorized and carried out by the Clinton Foundation], and the rest of the corrupt D's[nursing home massacres, etc.) is genocidal. Darktolight ARMOROFYAHWEH Lionsnotsheep WWG1WGA MAGA

impeach Cuomo

Cuomo’s Genocide

TonyBrunoShow NYGovCuomo wipes out a generation

Q for all.. is the number count you're seeing 24/7 the 'official covid count' (according to CDC and W.H.O data collection and reporting procedures)?

No matter how you want to count it. Numerous people are dead because of his irresponsibility

EricJSwensson Any cheating justified to make the Dem administration look good in NY.

Apologists will justify this. Cuomo will spin it. It will get limited coverage because it's not convenient.

When you've lost the AP!! Vote better New York!

Imagine putting covid positive people back into nursing homes and facing zero accountability

KillerCuomo like a consentless Kevorkian😬

New York under the 'leadership' of KillerCuomo is an unmitigated disaster. The state has had almost 3,000 more deaths than the bottom 35 states & D.C. COMBINED.

EricaRHill brikeilarcnn ReliableSources

Well I HOPE the cloaking AP will UNcloak the killer’s death toll.

JaniceDean FoxNews ☝️

bails94 Recall Cuomo! NOW!

Arkiegirl01 Fantastic leadership!

This has already been reported by other outlets. The most disturbing thing is that Cuomo is blocking the full count from being released publicly

So Cuomo killed a lot more grandmas than we originally thought.

32,488 makes New York have the Highest Death Rate by far of any other State! FakeNews

So JaniceDean and now confirm that NYGovCuomo killed more people (upto 11,000) in NewYork than 9/11. Wow! 😡 wegotacountrytosave lockdown

andrewcuomo is an unethical monster who belongs in jail!😡

Kaweisdorf1 NYGovCuomo has the deaths of a lot of elderly on his hands!!

Cuomo had a military hospital ship at his disposal and he chose instead the most disgraceful abuse of our elderly instead! Why didn’t he use the ship in this demographic? Cuomo sent our most at risk population back to nursing home causing the nursing home death toll to explode!

What happened AP? You're writing 1 article critical of a democrat, wow.

March 25!

This has been known for months?

Well this is a flagrant act of journalism by the AP...

ClayTravis 👀

Why doesn’t Cuomo want an independent investigation? What’s he trying to hide?

DEMOCRATS do love their KILLING MACHINES.

Cuomo is a murder!

Or other states are over counting since they are counting virus deaths that aren't. Real journalism is finding out.

Easy to correct for a news org of AP caliber. But will u.

When Cuomo realized he was killing the elderly he stopped the reporting of deaths coming from those nursing homes so he could cover up the actual number of murders he committed. Serial killer Cuomo

JaniceDean

Cuomo is the poster child of incompetence.

redsteeze But he does funny bits on CNN!

Does this mean that the other states are counting a death twice? By the hospital that they died at and then by the nursing home they lived at?

It looks like a cover up by the Governor!

The fact that KillerCuomo is 'helping' Texas and Florida with the testing is apalling. We all know how many people he killed.

Buck never stops with Cuomo

It's almost as if the dead don't even have names or addresses to this guy, let alone family's.

Sober up

. The Nursing Home Killer . . KillerCuomo . .

New York had the worst response to Covid-19 of any state in America- but lib media went all out with its gaslighting campaign and spent past months telling us Cuomo showed great leadership, NY got it right Thousands of seniors are dead because Democrat Cuomo is a thuggish moron

Cuomo extended protections to CEOs of nursing homes who knowingly took in COVID infected residents and failed to keep them away from others. Gotta protect those rich bastards at all costs.

Ya think. This democrat Gov is basically a murderer, and should be tried by court of law.

Well I'm sure the nursing homes have a list on the patients that never returned or transferred somewhere else correct?

sethjlevy Fuzzy math

Remember when the media and liberals tried to shame RonDeSantisFL over and over for his really good response and tried to compare him to killer Cuomo? Thank god for our governor here in Florida for doing the right thing against all odds. COVID19

It’s funny how when the federal government steps in, and the proverbial shit hits the fan, the Left immediately accuses Trump of one thing or another. But when the Fed steps in and everything is alleviated, the mayors and governors take the credit.

DUH.

RitaPanahi What!? More lies and manipulation!? Nobody saw that coming!! ReopenAmerica MasksOffAmerica

This guy should be in jail

What is happening? Is the AP calling out NYGovCuomo for his gross incompetence?

Isn’t it the job of journalists to, like, uncloak that shit?

NYGovCuomo poster says other wise. Nice try

*putting on hip waders* Sh!t getting deep I New York! Why would you count deaths that way and WHO is gullible enough to believe this BS? DemocratsDividingAndDestroyingAmerica

Wait. What?

MNHockeymama Is there anything Cuomo will not do to deceive his own people?

So,,,, Governor Cuomo panicked. And it killed people. 👇👇👇

RitaPanahi Wait wut?

Why is it that GOP states with over double the population of NJ/NY have 1/2 (if not less) the total COVID deaths & way less unemployment? This was caused by the DEM governors and not the POTUS. Remember this in November! Facts don't lie! VOTE ALL DEMS OUT!

The Dem leaders are going to be answering questions for the next decade.

neontaster Tough to see these ads that blame trump. It's like the reverse blame game.

And thus, Cuomo is clear Democrat front-runner for 2024.

redsteeze Like 4 9/11’s right? Isn’t that how the press keeps comparing the deaths?

JaniceDean Wear it as a badge of honor. You kept this story alive and now even MSM (liberal leaning) press is covering it. God bless!

OrthoA KillerCuomo

What andrewcuomo allowed to happen in those nursing homes is a disgrace! The fact that the media has for the most part ignored it or blanketly accepted Cuomos untruthful excuses is just as bad! Elderly people died needlessly because of his decisions and Cuomo doesn’t care!

Idiotic If it was caught in a LTC facility it is a nursing home death-period. How the media lets him get away with this is complicity.

Duh This is old news.

seanmdav The correct thing would have been to track all the data and provide the information to everyone. This is just a political coverup and NYGovCuomo is an idiot

seanmdav Nobody can deny that NYGovCuomo cooked the books.

How can this be? His brother said he was the best governor, he made a big sculpture trophy and he exonerated himself from the nursing home deaths. The media must have this wrong, he’s been on a victory tour for having only 32k deaths

COVID19

Why did Cuomo send Covid19 patients to nursing homes? Why did the Javits Center and Hospital ship see so few patients? Hospitals were never overrun.

Of course, Cuomo doesn’t want the world to know HE totally failed responding to this virus.

seanmdav That's completely intentional ! KillerCuomo

Why would Andrew 'Grandma Killer' Cuomo do this

seanmdav AP doing actual journalism? Reporting the truth on Cuomo? Will wonders never cease?

Fredo's big brother needs to held accountable.

Did actually say 'could' when describing the undercounting of senior COVID deaths? I understand discretion but that borders on assisting NY in justifying the undercount.

Blood on Cuomo’s hands. He’s no hero

KillerCuomo Coronavirus deaths

We have the correct numbers, to date, 17, 245 nursing home residents death due to NYGovCuomo policies.

normal people knew this 3 months ago.

ChrisCuomo at least now we know why your incompetent brother doesn’t want an independent investigation

NYGovCuomo needs to resign

Cuomo the killer.

redsteeze

sethjlevy Andrew Cuomo was a regular visitor to Little St. James Island. If you think that a bunch of old people, who would probably vote republican in the next election, mean anything to him, you're insane.

Marxists Kill

bnease This thread is full of people letting their politics get in the way of decency and common sense.

Steve_Casavant WHAT IS HAPPENING AP IS REPORTING NEWS, I AM SHOCKED😬

would've been good to know this months ago when our garbage media was fawning over this man like he was the model leader... he's a fraud and sent thousands to die...and then covered it up with help from his brother and a particularly trash network

No fan of Cuomo, but this strikes me as meaning less than it sounds like. Most of these nursing home residents likely have DNR and other voluntary end of life limitations of care. My bet is few of them are going to the hospital, just getting supportive or hospice care.

redsteeze Finally a news org standing up for the elderly that were separated from their families, died alone & sent to death traps! This is a crime against humanity & Cuomo signed policy created these Covid death traps! This isn’t politics! This is our most vulnerable!

redsteeze “Among the highest” or “the highest”?

sethjlevy Suddenly the MSM is paying attention to NY's nursing home disaster. Looks like Cuomo is no longer being considered as a potential Biden replacement

This an extremely confusing tweet. It insinuates that the NY State death toll should be higher. The article is about the nursing home death toll. Weren't the deaths were counted at the hospital?

RitaPanahi The in-home tally alone is already horrendous.

Seems relevant

neontaster Anyone not understanding the issue with this is just too far into the Democrat weeds. Putting sick people into the population that is most susceptible to it is wrong. That's it. Full stop. Any justification on your end is disingenuous at best or sycophantic parroting at worst.

redsteeze The governor will be practically giddy upon hearing this news!

Clearly no one knows how to contain this virus in a free society. It affects the elderly and life requires death, really nothing more or nothing less, just thinning the herd of a very small percentage of vulnerable people.

sethjlevy Very significant I am sure.

neontaster it’s not like governors didn’t know care facilities were a breeding ground for a virus hot spot, the first hot spot was at a care facility in Washington state

Lol!!! Among the nations highest ? He’s in first by more than double any other state except nj.

KillerCuomo

adamscrabble adamscrabble one wonders whether NY investigation could by done by reliable and verifiable citizen journalism.. regardless what politicians cancel or not

Crimes Against Humanity.

No reason for an independent inquiry, don’t believe your lyin’ eyes.

neontaster I'm shocked they'd be so dishonest. Shocked, I tell your.

I’m sure you hacks will continue to shill for him. Enemies of the people.

neontaster Yay journalism!

Good job Fredo Bro’s ChrisCuomo andrewcuomo

Why would Cuomo want to hide this. I thought he was America’s Governor according to his 37 interviews with his brother Fredo who never got around to asking him anything of substance.

Once an Elder is transferred to the hospital from the facility which is their home, responsibility is on the hospital. Pre Covid and now. All records are sent. If death occurs in hospital MD there signs death certificate with due responsibilities.

oops

I don’t trust none of there number

Gees.. How many grandma's and grandpa's did he sentence to death?

The person died and is in the NY Covid Death Numbers. At this this point, moving the dead person from the hospital count to the nursing home count is silly.

retrowife63 NYGovCuomo using core ciriculium logic to calculate virus deaths is not a good look.

If true, this just reaffirmed politicians are master at manipulation.

Among the highest? How about the highest.

Investigate Cuomo. Why would he order covid patients into nursing homes when he had so many other options? To drive up the death toll so people would be willing to shut down the economy. All politics.

neontaster Damn that wily Ron DeSantis, how dare he make Cuomo cook the books

You can’t make this stuff up....absolutely horrendous!!! Now that leads to the next question. How many people died “with” COVID-19 (and were counted as Covid-19 deaths) compared to the number who actually died “from” COVID-19. What’s that real number

Why did Trump force Cuomo to do this?

How convenient...

美国人民真的好糊弄啊?这要是在中国,政府就得下台啊。

And they want mail in votes. That can’t count dead people

Remember this?

And how about Florida just out right fixing the data, totally cool since their governor is a Republican right?

They allowed the virus to slip into America's nursing homes and it killed thousands.

'Could' 👍🏻🤣

RitaPanahi They can even lower the figures drastically it they make it mandatory That, only whose who, while dying, gave a signed statement 'That I am dying of COVID-19' Will be counted as COVID deaths

Where’s Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon? They need to be doing an investigative look at this? Oh right.....they’re in bed with New York’s governor.

Can anyone unsee this. Montana is sniffing Idaho. biden

Finally! You all are reporting on this. If you focus on deaths and not cases 40% of deaths have happened in nursing homes nationwide. Lots of deaths in NY nursing homes because of bad policy.

This may address why number of nursing home deaths as a percentage of total deaths in New York is lower than other states. NYGovCuomo needs to committ to come clean on this. Are they listed as probable deaths?

Oh boy. How sad.

neontaster

Speculation at best

If you think poor red states that lack any support for the elderly are faring any better, I have a new york bridge to sell you.

neontaster Now tell us how much awesomer he is than DeSantis.

Cuomo really has so much blood on his hands.

Undercounted or mislabeled?

Not surprising for Cuomo

I think people need to accept the fact that the ones 'in charge' are there in part because they stepped on everyone else to get there. They don't care if you die, all they care about is power, image, and validation. So undercounting and people dying? Sure, if that's what it takes

Usually stories like this start with “Florida Governor…”. This is very disappointing.

Premeditated euthanasia

JonLemire Americans need in-home care. BanNursingHomes

NYGovCuomo HAS ALWAYS LIED. Media protected him.

neontaster Democrats ALWAYS lie to the people, and hurt Americans with their central planning Please stop voting for Democrats DemExit WalkAwayFromDemocratsForever

can be a number that symbol incredibility against so called poilitics or autonomy.

Nursing homes were the true hotspots, not the entire population. The autopsy of this epidemic is going to be very painful.

Wouldn't the hospitals have counted those deaths?

big surprise MussoliniCuomo isn't counting the deaths correctly and even bigger surprise he doesn't think a special prosecutor needs to investigate his handling of the situation. he's a criminal CuomoMustGO EnemyOfThePeople

*Already THE nations highest

But wouldn’t they be counted by hospitals?

This is disappointing. There needs to be complete transparency.

NYGovCuomo should be in jail

CuomoKilledGrandma

Yeah but have you seen the stock market!

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