Medieval Catholicism nudged Europe towards democracy and development

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Populations originating in areas that spent longer under medieval Catholicism are more trusting and less conformist

countries are rich and others are poor is an enduring debate in economics. Natural resources and friendly climates help only a bit. In contrast, robust political institutions and a steady rule of law seem essential. But why did these precursors evolve in just a few dozen states?

A recent study by Jonathan Schulz, Joseph Henrich and two other scholars proposes an explanation that delves even further back in time. They focus on family structure. Until recent human history, people lived in small groups and often married relatives. These habits reinforced family ties, but made people wary of outsiders., when the Catholic church began banning polygamy and marriages between cousins, or between widows or widowers and their dead spouses’ siblings.

 

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Is that why fascism in southern Europe was supported by the Catholic Church in the 20th century?

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What’s going on with Twitter? Can they just repost the same stuff day after day? I already replied to this once. This is like Groundhog Day. ethics

Absurd

Then mainstream outlets like yours ripped the catholic identity away and now they're turning into stagnant regressive shit holes.

Wasn't that system like BF with the Feudal system?

We couldn't have done it without the Army of pedophile priests that the pedophile bishops and pedophile cardinal's unleashed on the world! Fun fact: Jeffery Epstein worked for Bill Barr's dad and they wrote a sexual sci-fi novel together. Bring it fake Christian perverts!

.hbdchick spent longer discussing medieval Catholicism's effects, but trust she'd get credit was misplaced.

I would have thought it would have the exact opposite effect!

Has there ever been a more conformist population than modern liberals?

Colonialism is the answer

Wealth of a country is the cummulative wealth of individuals, this in turn is the proportion of surplus each individual produces. In poor countries their people produce very little or no surplus. Key word is surplus.

Thought provoking read !

India will never be a prosperous country because of its racist Caste System, where 260 Million people are untouchables.

It's engineered that way. It's not by accident.

Lol you forgot about italy

Because in order for some countries to live with a high standard and lots of opportunities at their fingertips, others have to have the reciprocal, mathematically speaking. That is the multiplicative inverse.

The foundations and argument of that paper have been debunked by several Medievalists. Oversimplified and ahistorical. Have you checked in with any historian on this?

Absolutely essential to understand the roots of the contemporary world.

I'm Catholic. But this is hard to believe.

Pope Francis hopes to visit China.

Robbing poor Pericles of any credit at all

If I published this, I would be fired by now.

May be true for Europe but for India, it brought anarchy. Colonial Europe couldn’t believe the existence of a wealthy Indian Orthodox Church in the 15th century and they were the first target of Medieval Catholics.

This paper has been widely debunked by professional historians. It's filled with dangerous and prejudiced assumptions, the dataset is poor, and the conclusions are not supported by deeper analysis. Sad to see the Economist promote such terrible research.

Seems like a good time to remind that correlation does not equal causation...

Hmm there’s a stronger correlation between countries that endured US-backed military coups and countries that don’t have democracy

The Inquisition comes to mind. The Witch Hunts comes to mind. The Slaughter of any Pagan who didn't submit comes to mind.

This 'science' is most often used to support modern bias

No kidding!

And fighting wars on false pretexts and fabricated evidence makes a strong case for levelling a country and rebuilding it from the ground up. In a few years shy of 250 years. Must be some sort of record.

Understand Chinese history and culture to fathom Chinese economy. This round economist magazine is behind the curve. have shared it many years back. I talked about Chinese yuan on Jan 7-2011 in NY. Nobody believed in my insight. China power. China Economist

History repeats itself, and if you don't learn from history you're bound to make the same mistakes.

alllibertynews If only ThomasEWoods would write a book on this subject....

SensoryOpportunism. Should be a field unto itself.

So when was the Inquisition?

Have you guys seen this jollyheretic KirkegaardEmil and TOOEdit ?

Mihmmer Mark one point for medieval Catholicism!

The Catholic Church actively suppressed meaningful human progress for nearly 2 millennia. Being against cousin-plowing doesn’t really change that.

alllibertynews This is when the socialist like AOC start attacking Catholics.

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I'm Jewish, and although my cousins are from an adopted uncle and Aunt, I wouldn't do the dipity with any of them. 🤢

Thank god Hitler was a vegan!

Imamofpeace what would you say about this ?

I’m trying to figure out if this is a “catholicism is savior religion” OR “other countries r in crumbles becuz religions like Islam & Judaism led”?

So RELIGION turned out to be good?🤔

Portuguese proselytization, and the miscegenating procreation propagated by lucotropicology, supposedly became the engines of development around the world in the wake of Vasco Da Gama's so-called voyages of discovery.

Medieval Catholicism was designed to brainwash people into accepting an inferior position in society in order for the rich (at that time the monarchy and their cohorts and the clergy) to continue enriching themselves

No

Yep, the Inquisition and burning at the stake anybody with a free thought were crucial in advancing democracy & development.

There could be an easier answer: Protestanism. That branch of the religion adjusted well with the external reality that has changed over time. Its first followers also created a genetic pool with a predisposition to this form of adaptability.

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Why doesn’t The Economist report how the Catholic Church helped in the overthrow of Jacobo Arbenz, Ho Chi Minh and many other? They should report the genocide and atrocities committed in the New World. Report that the Papacy backed the Confederacy and propagated slavery.

Their incest ban was so effective in expanding ppl's sense of community to broader society, that they decided to pursue Inquisitions and kill and burn 100s of thousands of people throughout Europe and the Americas for not being Catholic. A model movement towards democracy

alllibertynews Lol

Papal authority is as democratic as arsenic is an essential nutrient.

Towards democracy and development ? Maybe But protestantism nudged towards capitalism....

Although published in Science, highly dubious&rather sweeping inferences. Restrictions would not have on their own generated sense of community or individualism let alone accelerate it. It was TECHNOLOGY. Social scientists do not like tech determinism so they fight it like this

I can't read the article since I don't have a subscription, but Catholic Humanism is responsible for Scholasticism and the revival of learning. Once people start thinking democracy is inevitable

Yup, people had finally had enough 🤔

The book is called 'The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism' not 'The Catholic Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism'

Did the Vatican pay for this article?

Reality is a paradox. God guides. God does not punish. God guides us towards total hapiness and knowledge. Evil does not exist. Only God's love exist. +++ I was often sent to Hell and came out to tell all God killed death.

Another perspective: Catholicism CatholicChurch EuropeanHistory NotreDame

Is this the medieval Catholicism you are talking about

You know what else it did ?

Are you going to seriously add this revisionist silo’d perspective to the truth of genocide, colony and the vicious Papal Bulls visited upon the world?

Colonialism, slavery and pillage of resources.

Read 'How Europe Underdeveloped Africa' by Walter Rodney.

It wasn't Democracy it Nudged, But a Monarchy of Religion. The Illusion of Democracy.

Not Catholicism, it was Protestant that rebelled against oppressive Catholicism.

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catholicism robbed these nations of untold wealth and resources

Dca

mauricio_agg By focusing men's attention to what was good and lofty the Church's impetus for civilization was unparalleled.

alllibertynews Catholicism is largely about control that often leads to abuse by the controllers. So I agree with the conformist part but trusting.....you have got to be kidding me 🤣

for some reason i dont believe this

Excessive extrapolation creates interesting headlines.

this is some king leopold in the Congo bullshit

Towards development? What would Max Weber say about that?

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Mi sembra un freno per la società la religione

Fire nudged the rats to abandon ship.

So democratic toward ‘witches’ and Jews

Max Weber has entered the chat

That’s quite a claim. mikeduncan ?

All places destroyed by Western colonialism, but yeah i’m sure Catholicism is what made us progressive

wait, The Economist... ENDORSING Christianity WHAT!?

13yo aheists be like

Actually it's the rise of atheism if you actually look at it.

this is called 'putting lipstick on the pig'. reality is that the spread of christianity gave y'all the Dark Ages of total ignorance, plague and bigotry until a few wise men threw off the yoke of the church

This matches with my half-baked, half-done research on the subject.

Because USCCB were tired of molesting poor dirty children? They needed good hygiene as a prerequisite for molestation?

Duh cause rich countries stole the treasures and resources of the poor countries in the past. That's the answer!

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Lack of character compels to corruption, corruption compels to poverty. Choose the system of your heart's content, it will still suck because people sucks.

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