On a spotty Zoom call across Los Angeles ahead of the record’s release, Armisen passed the mic to Wong. —WONG: How’s it going?
WONG: Thanks a lot. Did you know that the first interview was conceived when you invited Marnie’s band backstage tofor a taping and Brendan Canty [of Fugazi] was there? He was the first person I interviewed for the show. I was going through a rough time in my life, and I was like, “Brendan has all the answers,” because he just seemed so cool. At the after-party, I cornered him and talked to him for like, four hours, and then decided that we should make it into a podcast.
WONG: I felt like it was an untapped resource. Everybody wants to talk to the singer. When I had Brendan on for the first episode, he was telling me about how he would be talking to somebody from the audience. And then, the minute Ian [MacKaye] or Guy [Picciotto] would walk into the room, everybody would abandon him and talk to those guys instead. So, I felt like there were more untold stories.
ARMISEN: Strangely, usually, I’m against it. I’ll think, “No, I want to see the original members.” But then, when they come around and it’s time to buy a ticket, it kind of goes out the window. What do you think drummers are happiest about? What is their biggest pride? ARMISEN: It is meditative. I think the only weird downside to setting up drums is, when you take them apart and put each drum in the case, they somehow don’t always fit in that easily. There’s always some negotiation where you’re trying to get that kick drum into that bag.
WONG: That’s so interesting because the record that I made, I started making it right around the time that I was helping you with your special, and it was definitely inspiring to see that personal side of you. At the same time, I was also scoring‘s part. Watching both of you make these really personal artistic statements was partially what pushed me to make my own record.
WONG: Yeah. I was always really hard on myself as a drummer, too. I would be like, “Well, the gold standard is this person or that person.” I would hold myself up against the greatest people that had ever done it and then beat myself up over it. That’s just an extension of ego, and it’s not helpful.WONG: I think that I’m finding that same sensation as a singer. I’m not trying to be the best singer in the world. I’m not trying to be as good as anybody else.
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