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FBI director says antifa is an ideology, not an organization

WASHINGTON (AP) — FBI Director Chris Wray told lawmakers Thursday that antifa is an ideology, not an organization, testimony that puts him at odds with President Donald Trump, who has said he...

9/17/2020 9:54:00 PM

FBI Director Chris Wray testified before Congress that antifa is an ideology, not an organization. That puts him at odds with President Trump who has said he would designate antifa — an umbrella term for far-left-leaning militants — a terror group.

WASHINGTON (AP) — FBI Director Chris Wray told lawmakers Thursday that antifa is an ideology, not an organization, testimony that puts him at odds with President Donald Trump , who has said he...

WASHINGTON (AP) — FBI Director Chris Wray told lawmakers Thursday that antifa is an ideology, not an organization, testimony that puts him at odds with President Donald Trump, who has said he would designate it a terror group.Wray did not dispute that antifa activists were a serious concern, saying that antifa was a “real thing” and that the FBI had undertaken “any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent extremism,” including into individuals who identify with antifa.”

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But, he said, “It’s not a group or an organization. It’s a movement or an ideology.”ADVERTISEMENTThat characterization contradicts the depiction from Trump, who in June singled out antifa — short for “anti-fascists” andan umbrella term for far-left-leaning militant groups

— as responsible for the violence that followed George Floyd’s death. Trump tweeted that the U.S. would be designating antifa as a terrorist organization, even though such designations are reserved for foreign groups and antifa lacks the hierarchical structure of formal organizations.

The hearing before the House Homeland Security Committee, — established after the Sept. 11 attacks to confront the threat of international terrorism — focused almost entirely on domestic matters, including violence by white supremacists as well as anti-government extremists.

It underscored the shift of attention by law enforcement at a time of intense divisions and polarization inside the country. But one area where foreign threats were addressed was in the presidential election and Russia’s attempts to interfere in the campaign.

Wray sought to make clear the scope of the threats while resisting lawmakers’ attempts to steer him into politically charged statements. When asked whether extremists on the left or the right posed the biggest threat, he pivoted instead to an answer about how solo actors, or so-called “lone wolves,” with easy access to weapons were a primary concern.

“We don’t we don’t really think of threats in terms of left, right, at the FBI. We’re focused on the violence, not the ideology,” he said later.The FBI director said racially motivated white supremacists have accounted for the most lethal attacks in the U.S. in recent years, though this year the most lethal violence has come from anti-government activists.

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Wray also affirmed the intelligence community’s assessment of Russian interference in the November election, which he said was taking the form of foreign influence campaigns aimed at sowing discord and swaying public opinion as well as efforts to denigrate Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. He said that the U.S. had not yet seen targeting of election infrastructure like in 2016.

ADVERTISEMENT“What concerns me the most is the steady drumbeat of misinformation and sort of amplification of smaller cyber intrusions,” Wray said. “I worry over time that they will contribute over time to a lack of confidence of American voters and citizens in the validity of their vote.”

He added that would be “a perception, not a reality.”Trump has resisted the idea of Russian interference aimed at benefiting his campaign and has been eager, along with other administration officials, to talk about intelligence officials’ assessment that China prefers that Trump lose to Biden.

Department of Homeland Security Acting Secretary Chad Wolf had been scheduled to appear at the House hearing on worldwide threats but did not testify because of his nomination to be secretary, according to the agency. The agency said in a statement ahead of the hearing that it would be “contrary to standard practice” to have him testify while his nomination was pending before the Senate.

Acting Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli said in a statement that he was prepared to appear in place of Wolf but that was rejected by the Democratic-controlled committee.Rep. Bennie Thompson, the committee chairman, began the hearing by noting there is no law prohibiting the testimony of someone facing a confirmation hearing and that Wolf has given multiple media interviews since the president announced his nomination. The Department of Homeland Security ignored a committee subpoena issued Friday for Wolf’s appearance, which the Mississippi Democrat said should “appall” any member of the committee.

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Actually FBI & FBIPortland - you can no longer pretend that Antifa is a decentralized political movement. Considering recent local activity, why are you selling this narrative? That's keithellison standing w/local Antifa organizer Luis Marquez. Oregon Dems-Cider Riot-Antifa FireChrisWray When is the 'retirement-to-spend-more-time-with-his-family' party for Mr. Wray scheduled? POTUS

DOH ! _Politics So is everything else........etc are all ideologies. SafiMaasai For anyone who wants to learn more about what antifa really means, this is a great video on the topic: They are loving peaceful people with howitzers Trumo supporters on suicide watch after this statement 😂😂 TRUMP wants is OWN TRUTH 'Wray was incorrect' 'Redfield was incorrect' LOOKS LIKE Trump's FAKE Manifesto is not taking root with TRUTH TELLERS Today he said if Biden is elected he will bring MOBS TRUMP is a LUDICROUS & DANGEROUS JOKE

BillyCrystal Oh brother! Correct. Anti fascism is a closely held belief of billions. Ooh, maybe this will make tRump EXPLODE!! jennycohn1 you need to fact check yourself. Wray was describing QAnon as an ideology. You are just a mouthpiece for the Deep State Socialist Party. Oh God, we have an idiot for FBI director. How can he say Antifa is not an organization? Geez...

Fire him! Saying 'antifa' is an organization is like saying atheism is a church. Not one person who lives in Portland would ever tell you this is true. Weve seen very organized marches from our local guild, Rose City antifa.German govt has been researching antifa for years and publish their findings yearly in Verfassungsschutzbericht which contradict FBI dir.

Bang jennycohn1 Antifa/anti-Fascism is the enemy of Dictatorship/Fascism. For my enemies the 'law' For my loyalists pardons. Trump et al +🇷🇺 trying to seize power. So, of course, they are going to use our DOJ, Barr-corrupted 2 attack. They killed that one antifa, didn't attempt to arrest. T=😃 No, pretty sure they are real

jennycohn1 Far left leaning militants. .. or anybody against fascism. Gfy. They're both. Like BLM, there is an organisation and then there are thousands of clueless brainwashed well meaning people who repost their propaganda and identify with the 'brand'. What a fool LiveFreeUS Trump wants to arm them the FBI doesn’t

Jewel4Trump and that zero neurons is the director lol jennycohn1 He will be fired Friday afternoon cynrl1 Oops. May have to resign!! jennycohn1 Because his style is quiet and low-key, it is easy to underestimate the significance of what Wray is doing. He is basically taking on both his immediate boss and Trump by stubbornly sticking to the facts and the truth. In today’s DC, it is nothing short of remarkable.

jennycohn1 Thank god, at last someone who speaks some sense. _Politics Trump = ANTIFA, ANTIFA = Trump. He creates a problem, pretends to be the hero that solves it, and feels he can take the credit. Antifa has an organization, funding websites, leadership. They have plotted attacks on courthouses. Thrown pipe bombs in California. And wear the same patch believing in anarcho-communism. More than just an ideology.

Well for an ideology they are well funded, have a communication structure, and are organized. Never have seen an ideology start fires, loot, destroy property, and attack law enforcement officers and first responders. and his a idiot While some organizations would like you to believe that 'antifa' is an umbrella term for far-left-leaning militants, it is actually an umbrella term for people who aren't fascists.

Who is anti fascist? Who is anti fascism? My dad. WWII vet. And me, his anti fascist kid. I'm still waiting for my first check from Soros Hmmmm seems the same people denying Antifa is an actual group with leaders and finance said the same thing about Al Qaeda and ISIS.... 🤷‍♂️ He’s not very smart ! Antifa is an ADJECTIVE. One that any American should be proud to apply to themselves.

It also puts him at odds with reality and common sense. How does AP know this? FBI is worthless ItsMikeLuso Isis is an ideaology not an organization, al Queda is an Ideologynot an organization. In other news antifa how does it feel to have tacit support from the FBI 😂 FireWray He's perfectly correct. 'Antifa' is not an organization without any sort of direct leadership. Any real American is, and should be Antifa anyway.

“antifa — an umbrella term for far-left-leaning militants” is this really AP’s definition of antifa? I guess the entire U.S.A.F. are far left leaning militants - Seeing as how they have spent so much of the existence fighting fascism. Of course Wray is correct because his narrative aligns with and reinforces the media's bias including .

What a misguided person. Why is Wray still around DC? And yet people still think George Soros is funding antifa; we would have tanks and real military gear if that was case. Fuck people are stupid This is part of a whole statement. print the whole thing AP.. dare ya. So he is saying that Russia is saying mean things about sleepy. No worry realDonaldTrump is going to win in such a huge landslide. What Russia does is irrelevant.

independant1492 The employees of government agencies are starting to see the handwriting on the wall with trump and/or have reached maximum saturation on immorality by traitor trump. The whistleblowers will have to start lining up to have their turn to speak. Never liked or trusted him Maybe, just maybe, Wray takes his oath of office seriously. Trump appointed him, but Wray appears to be honorable. Thank God!

Ideologies don’t present themselves with people traveling from city to city and storing weapons and shields in tents that look like homeless people’s tents. Ideologies aren’t organized terrorists groups who have approved press lists and ideologies don’t dox civilians to go after. Duh 🙄 Chris Wray is a dumbbell! Please fire him!

Wray is Antifuck. An ideology can’t be funded ? So, any financial ties to Antifa should get confiscated and dontated to repair the damaged lives they’ve caused. Wray should expect his name to be in the firing list. Tell him YOU'RE FIRED! If available, and safe for you, PLEASE consider voting early IN-PERSON to help speed the ballot counting on election night. KeepThePeace SaveThePostOffice democracy

Omg who got to this guy.. Verbatim globalist spouts Umm....all terrorist groups have strict ideologies. So not sure why this is important. Militants? Lol naw they just people that oppose fascists. FBI has to deal with facts. Its not Trump or a Trump appendage. Wray is just speaking simple truth. Kind of amazing to hear.

He is exactly right. Trump isn’t alone. potus TheJusticeDept SecPompeo you know what you gotta do. At least e didn't lie! Wray is part of the coup against Trump. THERE IS NO ANTIFA organization Barr/Trump trying to conflate with BLM TRUTH: TRUMP THUGS and Militias and Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer are not PEACEFUL

An ideology that starts fire 🔥 Well, maybe Trump is right... just maybe tRump designating antifa a terror group is just another step to designating Democrats a terror group. DictatorTrump TrumpIsAntifreedom Islamic terrorism is ideology and we classify it as terrorism, so is ANTIFA. Please clarify that antifa is short for anti-fascist. A lot of people don't get that and media should not add to the confusion.

Ridiculous fool Best line, ''We don’t we don’t really think of threats in terms of left, right, at the FBI. We’re focused on the violence, not the ideology,” Also, is that a typo? Or did he say it like that? Wray needs to go. Someone else saying something else Trump does not want to hear... I wonder how long it will before he loses his Job (sadly)...

If the KKK changes their name to “racist thinkers” they will no longer become a domestic terror group. Antifa isn't 'far-left-leaning militants', it's literally just anyone willing to stand against fascism. Who organized all the pallets of bricks and gas masks and money to travel Someone needs to give trump an illustrated book with pictures to explain ideology.

semissourian The associated press is now a wing of the liberals. SNAP! Interesting that some in the Government seem to remember they work for us and not Red Y O U ' R E F I R E D ! ! ! realDonaldTrump POTUS seanhannity marklevinshow Define terrorism It's always refreshing for someone tied to the Trump administration to speak the truth for once.

Is that why they have websites, organize meetings and have a flag? Antifa is also short for anti-fascist. Someone enlighten me: Has the US government also designated neo-fascist and white supremacist groups as terror groups? Hen seems to disagree with Barr. They are decentralized but they coordinate. Given realDonaldTrump 's idea of a 'group' likely involves sex, I'd say Wray is right.

And the right goes bonkers. He’s gonna get a phone call like Redfield yesterday. He’s gonna get fired if he doesn’t agree w the orange boob Islam is a religion and an ideology. which has good followers and also evil followers Fire his butt If you are not antifa, you are fa Sad when the Director of FBI is clueless.

Jon29650543 hmmm you talked about Antifa before right? And not the multiple white supremacy groups were behind all the Antifa damage? Also it was white supremacist who openly shot and killed those cops last week. Maybe it’s white supremacy groups everywhere that are the issue The attempt to define ANTIFA as an organization is similar to the way we define Al queda. It is a catch all for liberals. ANTIFA is not a group. It is a boogey man that conservatives tell their children at night. 'Be good otherwise ANTIFA will come and take you away. '

_Politics well once again the feeble brained cannot see what we the average folks see in our neighborhoods...Wray needs to leave his safe little bubble and get out more... How come they have a web site and recruit Thanks AP... still very bad article... no substance as usual... please review your headline and start to work on meaning of Ideology... it can be very dangerous...

They are! IAmAmnaNawaz Don't forget that it puts him at odds with AG Bill Barr, too. Yeah sure, Wray, tell that to JackPosobiec - MrAndyNgo - and the law abiding citizens of Portland. POTUS , please give this jerk a pink slip. So an Ideology can loot, burn businesses, shoot police and incite violent protests

Hard to choose who to trust on this: a Yale trained attorney or a person who had someone else take the SAT for him and spends most of his time watching TV or golfing. 🤷🏽‍♂️ How about the 'Resistance'? Pretty sure they are an organized group that are enabling these fringe groups Let's start there If you can designate 'antifa' a terrorist group, you can designate 'alt-right' one as well, or 'liberal,' or 'conservative,' or any other vague, broad ideology.

President Trump is correct... I would designate Antifa and BLM as more of domestic terrorist groups though! Far left leaning MILITANTS? Seriously? realDonaldTrump WTF, hire me I can do a better job than this idiot. Ideology? more like Idiology! for christ sake a wet behind the ears undercover reporter can infiltrate a ANTIFA TRAINING LOCATION and record some of the things they do. FBI is a joke and Wray is fake swamp.

SenTedCruz WTF, hire me I can do a better job than this idiot. Ideology? more like Idiology! for christ sake a wet behind the ears undercover reporter can infiltrate a ANTIFA TRAINING LOCATION and record some of the things they do. FBI is a joke and Wray is fake swamp. Right! 🙄 Antifa a criminal street group w/ knowledge that its members engage in, or have engaged in, a pattern of criminal activity, and who willfully promotes, furthers, or assist in any felonious criminal conduct by members of that group aren’t terrorists just misunderstood kids I guess

Ray will be fired on Nov 4th. What about him margbrennan Guess he didn't see the hit on two cops and subsequent organized blocking of ambulances entering the hospital. romenewstribune He needs to go It's time to kick Chris Wray to the curb. Trump is a liar. There, fixed it for you. For those people who honestly believe the FBI... TRUMP'S FBI is somehow not nearly as well informed as they are, due to their massive research on facebook and breitbart. Perhaps you could, at the very least, double check your propaganda

Flashback! Deja Vu. 'There is no organized crime. No Mafia.' - J. Edgar Hoover Seriously, is there some reason that the application of the term MUST BE mutually exclusive or something? When just about every noun is used as a verb now, this is yet another ridiculous assertion by a liberal elitist who thinks they are more intelligent than most everyone else.

Militants? Do some research next time before spreading this garbage. Listen closely. NOT an umbrella term for far-left leaning militants. Antifa literally means ANTI-FASCIST. Every veteran who fought in WW2 was anti-fa. 'White Supremacy' is an ideology 'Their organizations' are the KKK, Proud Boys, Boogaloo Boys, 3%ers, Aryan Nation... Anti - Fascist [antifa] is an ideology What organizations call themselves Anti - Fascist? I'm having a problem finding any.

'Umbrella term for far-left-leaning militants' isn't even close to what Antifa is either, so thanks for contributing to misleading propaganda, Associated Press. Shit then who am I paying monthly dues to? The 'ill-informed one' is Trump, who made up that sh*t about the word 'Antifa' as if it were some sort of an organization from whole cloth. Since some people accept that everything that he says is true and just run with it on the 'nets it then flies as if it were the Truth.

Antifa He just kissed his job goodbye Love that AP identifies Antifa as “militants” but Wray says it’s an ideology. Militants defined as “combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause, and typically favoring extreme, violent, or confrontational methods”. Doesn’t sound like an ideology to me.

seriously though, everyone I disagree with is a terrorist. It's in the Constitution Lol cool story bro Then ISIS is an ideology, too. There is no doubt in my mind that there are anarchists on the extremes of both the left and right. They are terrorists, plan & simple. Anyone that destroys a persons livelihood, property, threatens to kill & follows through, is a terrorist organization.

A whole bunch of people are 'at odds' with Frump. I think Christianity is an ideology with offices, web sites and food service. Truthfully not that well organized as a whole. Eh, grab some chips, comfy chair, watch the politics screw up our language and country. I wish Trump had that same energy for the KKK.

The real threats are Boogaloo and QAnon. R3volutionDaddy can we send this message out for the masses? PDXGabs Wray is Antifa. Time to be fired. FBI acting like an ideology, not an organization. Isn't being against Facisim what we're supposed to be Bob Woodward, why didn’t you address your concerns about Trumps Covid response on CNN or MSNBC If you believed Trump was guilty of down playing the virus! If Trump is guilty then your just as guilty Mr. Woodward!

Antifa is not a terrorist organization!? You must be fucking kidding me! Chris Wray is a complete joke! An ideology with a bank account, transportation resources, a food service division and several hundred, if not several thousands, of adherents that show up at 'mostly peaceful' riots again and again.

Ideology doesn't try to trap people in a building and then light it on fire. That's organization. Marxist paramiltaries call everyone who doesn't ascribe to their flavor of Marxism a fascist.... Beware, everyone is a target of their violence and hate You’re either pro-fascist or anti-fascist. I am not 'far-left-leaning militant', but IamAntifa. Why do you use right wing framing?

It's not 'far-left leaning militants', it's anyone who opposes facism. my great grandfather who fought in the European theater in WWII was antifa 😂 Well the left has called QAnon a group when there is no evidence of it beyond ideology dreamt up by the left. It is an ideology. ANTIFA leader George Washington defeated the troops of the fascist King George.

I wonder when right wingers will demonize the terrorists among them? Oh, that's right. They all are. jep1299 Chris Wray is the poster child for the Deep State. There are videos all over the internet showing ANTIFA destroying cities and assaulting police! America’s Founding Fathers were ANTIFA. Well dang. Any chance you guys know any journalists who might be capable of clearing this one? I see you've got a full slate of stenographers, but maybe do the mildest of investigation before publishing something?

Wow somebody in the feds actually has it right They are fascists. Whoops someone said the truth about antifa. The GOP is gonna meltdown. Bye Wray. A quick search on Twitter or Facebook will show that there are organized cells. Wray has been a huge disappointment as FBI director. Instead of cleaning up, he has covered up. Now he is giving a pass to Antifa who coordinate with each other on social media, come in from out of State to hot spots so they can tear down our cities. Nov 4, Wray, you're fired.

Interesting...guess he hasn't read their blogs. or visited their web site. Their surrogate group linked web sites are compelling as well. It’s hard to believe there are people who actually believe antifa are actually anti-fascists. TheMaineTweeter realDonaldTrump this idiot needs to be fired. Why are you waiting so long? The people see his motivation.

And? Is he a decisive voice? He spouts the Leftist anti Trump bullshit and expects to be taken seriously. Antifa is clearly, in Marxist terms that he will understand, 'Theory and Praxis'. Even if diffuse in organization, they are internal enemies. An umbrella term for 'far-left-leaning militants' would be 'far-left-leaning militants.' antifa is an umbrella term for anti-fascists, those who oppose fascism. Don't write your headlines from the president's point of view.

Trump would turn against the same people for him he swore to carry the mantle. Wray must go. Explains why nothing is being done to stop funding, arrest those rioting, and stop the violence. FBI Director does not see AntifaTerrorist as an organization which is funded and taking action based on a structure.

Ok sure and CHAZ/ CHOP was not an ANTIFA settlement just a shared hallucination. If ANTIFA is an ideology then who are the rioters dressed in black, armed with bats, bricks, crowbars, mace, lasers, fireworks, have military grade gas masks & helmets (& recently have been carrying guns)? How stupid do the DC swamp dwellers think Americans are?

Antifa is an anti-fascist and left-wing political movement in the United States comprising an array of autonomous groups that aim to achieve their objectives through the use of both nonviolent and violent direct action rather than through policy reform. Just as two Germans might have debated about The Brown Shirts while waiting for the light to change on a Berlin street corner in early 1933...

Terrorism is also an ideology mr glow berg Being anti-fascist was a crime in Germany to after 1933. FBI 🤝 ANTIFA 'Ideology' loots, burns, assaults and threatens people. Got it. Antifa is a right-wing propaganda tool. One day it’s “Trump has corrupted federal agencies to do his bidding!” Next day it’s “Trump is at odds with federal agencies!”

I've done a ton of research! Antifa is an ideology! It shares Trump's roots of Germany ... with the thinking if all Germans had had guts they would have grabbed Hitler and throttled the little bastard! You had a good run Mr Wray Does he really think Americans are that stupid to believe that! Not on your life!!! 🇺🇸

ANTIFA is NOT 'an umbrella term for far-left-leaning militants'. It is a term the far right uses to try to demonize anyone who objects to fascism. Do better , and stop promoting right wing extremist propaganda. Reminder: Fascism is what we fought in World War II.

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