Carl Clemons-Hopkins’ Journey With ‘Hacks’

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Clemons-Hopkins talks about being the first nonbinary actor to be nominated in an Emmy acting category, fashion and more.

On “Hacks” they play Marcus, chief executive officer of Deborah Vance’s business, and season two saw Marcus having a bit of a freefall before a period of growth.

“I enjoyed that there seemed to be some real depth beneath the surface of just what he does for Deborah and what he does on the side, what he does for his family. It was a character who wasn’t doing too much for himself, and that was intriguing in a sense of, ‘oh, I wonder where that’s going to take him,’” Clemons-Hopkins says. ”I also enjoyed, of course, that it was something that showed us queer characters without very much explanation. The conflict was not his identity.

Following the first season, Clemons-Hopkins was nominated for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series at the 2021Carl Clemons-Hopkins“It was and still is a very real surprise and very real honor. Honestly, for me, it was not in any way something I expected because it was not in any way something that I thought I could have,” they say. “It just wasn’t. I had already felt that was something that I’d already long since put out of the scope of my dreams.

“It’s interesting because fashion was another world that was not something I felt included in — quite literally, because I just don’t fit. I can’t list off a high number of designers who are designing for 6’4″ nonbinary individuals. It’s just not done,” they say. “I also enjoy queering the lens. I enjoy having fun. I enjoy finding rules, breaking them. I personally really quite adore fashion and creative process and the design process of it all. That’s really fascinating to me.

“I was watching some documentary and this designer said the function of design is to solve a problem. What I enjoy about that approach to fashion is if the problem is exclusion, if the problem is limitation, if the problem is gender binary, then I enjoy using fashion to help just break some of that up,” Clemons-Hopkins continues. “I’m not saying you won’t ever find me in a standard suit and tie, but my God would there be some rhinestones or something on it.

 

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