Another Break From The Past: Government Will Help Churches Pay Pastor Salaries

In a development that could challenge the Constitution's prohibition of any law"respecting the establishment of religion," the federal government will soon provide money directly to U.S. churches to help them pay pastor salaries and utility bills.enacted last month includes about $350 billion for the Small Business Administration to extend loans to small businesses facing financial difficulties as a result of the coronavirus shutdown orders.

Churches have been especially hard hit by shutdown orders, because many of them rely on weekly offerings that are no longer being collected. Under the Trump Administration, the federal government has already been providing funds directly to churches, synagogues, mosques, and other religious organizations. In 2018, the Federal Emergency Management Agency The new SBA program, however, takes federal funding of religious institutions significantly further.

Advocates for government funding of religious institutions argue that denying them aid that is available to non-religious institutions amounts to discrimination, and the U.S. Supreme Court has recently declined to challenge such support.

I haven’t been to church (well, synagogue, to be precise) in years. If going to a house of worship is essential, shouldn’t I be dead by now? Maybe I should submit my data to a medical journal for having survived so long without experiencing something that’s essential.

This is really rich coming from NPR. You get tax payers money why?

Why on earth?

All about growing the Cult. The Cult of the Trump.

What the hell is happening to our country? I no longer recognize it. It’s heartbreaking.

Better than giving it to NPR

Let God save them and their churches not my taxes

I'm sure it won't but do churches include mosques and temples? Or just Evangelical money grubbing Christian churches

If they accept it, they lose tax exemption.

Pick the timing of your actions carefully.

Whatever happened to the founding fathers “separation of church and state”?

Keep church and state separate! Tax exemption is more than enough.

..as most churches dont do sh!t for their ppl, except entertain. Gtfoh

ExtremeConservativesNGov PlayCorporation all the time. They are responsibility weaklings when it comes to GovOfBy4People.

Ummm not constitutional

That violates religion and state in a very overt way.

THIS IS ILLEGAL. Can't we stop this insanity?

My opinion. This is designed to make people angry with the church. Divide people from their faith and God. Considering we have the antichrist inside the White House. 🤷🏽‍♀️

What? Do my ears deceive me?

All of you shouting 'No help unless they pay taxes,' make sure you apply the same to ALL tax exempt organizations. Planned Parenthood, the Kennedy Center, etc...

Hell No!!

If the internet went out, somehow I can see the hardcore propaganda networks asking for compensation for not being able to air bc its violates the first amendment. People arguing no. Play devils advocate. Throw a dash of objectivity in there.

Oh HELL naw! They dont get to be avoid paying taxes and them get bailed out by taxpayers.

Ummm...nope

REQUEST DENIED

Stop Christian Sharia Laws.

C'mon NPR -- what's the 'could' doing there. This is an assault of the 1st Amendment. There's isn't a 'could' about this.

What in the actual fuck?!?

“Won’t he do it!!”

Where the hell is separation of church and state! This is unconstitutional and wrong on so many levels.

Double u. Tee. Eff.

Some of the people that go to churches are conservative and they ask for less government involvement. That seems to be in conflict with itself.

NPR = the “No Public Religion” people.

Churches don’t pay taxes!! Why are we subsidizing them!! I don’t want my tax dollars going to churches, I want it to help people

🧐S E P A R A T I O N O F C H U R C H & 🤬 S T A T E!!!!! 🗞 🗣 whitehouse 😤

This is a step too far. They don’t even pay taxes.

Already know what I think. Yes, these are businesses. Taxthechurchs Yeshua Jesus ministry was privately funded. He had a profession. He was the carpenter's son. Paul was a tent maker. NEVER to be a money maker. Clergy need to make an honest living. Charities care the 4 poor.

Ok. Now do sex workers.

TaxTheChurches

Can I sue?

I declare myself a pastor. There.

Hello tax exempt means NO money for churches. Churches should not be allowed any funding. The churches are closed so shout off the electricity.

So they might as well bail out the NFL too and any other tax exempt companies. But all this says to me is church is owned by the govt which is why they never tell the truth just some guilt trip pyramid scheme...sooo

Ohhh no nope.

No good- now the Feds will be preaching...

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

(reminder that churches are tax exempt)

Do synagogues and mosques and Buddhist temples and satantic churches get this too I’m guessing no

Just because they don't have in-person services doesn't mean they can't take donations from their membership. The Federal government should focus on people, not businesses, and then the issue of church business would be moot.

Where do I get my license?

If they are getting MY TAX DOLLARS, they best be paying taxes. TeamPelosi this is a no go. Let their parishioners bail them out.

All curches should be required to pay property, sales, and corporate income taxes. What superstitious leeches!

That’s insane

They can file for unemployment like the rest assuming they paid in to the system

We no longer have checks and balances, so it won't matter. Send money to me, in care of, The Religion of Me.

The only time that the State, local or federal gov't. should get involved in the affairs of the church is when there beliefs threaten or harm its supporters. They need to support themselves financially, that's why we pay tithes and offerings. Separation of state and church

We doing this for all tax exempt non profits?

Not a good idea .

It says in the article US churches. Are they previously funded domestically?

Church of Satan, mosques and synagogues included? How about wats?

It's not just churches as worded in the Bill. It's religious organizations. But we ALL know that Churches will be gifted vast majority of $$ and not just because Christianity is majority religion in US. If Gov't is bailing out religious organizations, then it's time to tax them.

Didn’t Thomas Jefferson say something about this?

Will this go for rabbis and imams’ salaries too?

If that is the case they need to pay taxes like the rest of us. I am sick of the government playing Willie nellie with our money!! This is BS!!

I read all these replies and see a problem. I have the solution. I'm starting my own church!

What

oh hell no.

I wonder if they will pay mosques and Hindu temples and Sikh gurudwaras too.

What refuse to “like” this post

Why is it that you're not saying that this same bill gives money to ALL nonprofits, not only churches? Also, helping churches, that are also being affected by this government-driven shutdown, is NOT any establishment of religion, any more than the establishment of any business.

Pastors pay taxes too, so salaries are fine. But churches don’t, so they shouldn’t get a tax-funded bailout.

Any of these fine upstanding valuable members of society actually consider that their downfall is God's Will? You wouldn't want to upset the plan, right?

They fund abortions?

Fucking gross. And I’m Catholic!

PsychoHouse11 No no no this can't be allowed to happen.

Narrator: It was at this moment that the American church was fully coopted by late capitalism.

I fear it’s worse than that. Trump doesn’t want anyone knowing where he’s distributing the billions. I don’t think it’s for bribes only, but maybe family will benefit somehow. My Opinion.

domends2014 BULL SHIT

LadyDay711 WTF

My home is a church

Mark_Sheppard Sooooo waiting for the Church of Satan to apply for this.

Wtf ? April fools was last week.

I knew starting my own religion was a good idea

WHAT?!?!

That ain’t right.

Theres a loophole in that clause It says Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of a religion It says nothing about the executive doing so

Huge mistake....

HELL NO!! They pay no taxes so why the hell do we have to bail their asses out? Ask god for help. Heard he’s big on that.

'Faith-based org's, are eligible to receive loans up to 10 mil w/at least 75% of that going towards payroll costs...Loans are in large part forgivable, so churches won't have to worry about paying it all back.' Screw $1200! Let's start a church y'all! Who's w/me? Hallelujah

Hell no. Not one damn dime. Any person that is involved in this needs to be tried for treason. They would be violating the Constitution, which is treason.

Please stop this crazy financial prosperity Christianity preaching! It hurts all religions. I am not ok with federal dollars going to any church. But, the courts could hammer these charlatans with one swift vote. It would bring many back into the fold.

And, another thing america, what about all those tithes and offering that the church pastor gets. Let him pay the bill, some churches has board members others have creators of there own church. I built this church on the ROCK= JESUS CHRIST NAME

It's another way to control the churches, church and state separation not anymore they will be able to take away your rights as a believer in Jesus Christ

Oh, hell, no.

Alyssa_Milano TAX THEM!!

Hahahahaha we are so screwed hahahahaha. This is regardless of whatever set you bang.

Nope. Can’t do it. Insanely irresponsible to even think it.

americansunited had better be prepared to sue over this.

Um. Why?

We certainly can’t have Joel Osteen going broke.

WTF? What about every American in need now? Why pastors? Why should taxpayers pay for these religious facilities? 1/2 of them are not legitimate anyway.

Fuck churches.

WHAAAAT

Is this for all churches? I'm having a hard time believing the GOP is gonna pay for mosques.

Make them have to pay taxes. A lot of taxes. Then they can get a Gov bailout. Otherwise, that’s what their followers are for. Period. Separation of Church and State!

If that's the case, now they pay taxes ! Resistance TrumpLiedPeopleDied GOPVoterSuppression TrumpIsANationalSecurityThreat

They’re waiting to see how Paula White’s Passover plea does. $40 gets you a couple of books. $120 gets you books plus olive wood servers for communion from Israel. $1,000 and over gets all of that plus The Garden of Grace wall tapestry. If it don’t fly, lookout!

When they start paying taxes they can ask for public money. The people of Puerto Rico need help first. Then the people in Flint Michigan

Separation of church and state.

Yet another convoluted, indirect, and problem-ridden measure that would not be necessary if we had UBI. Basic needs cannot be dependent on employment, whether by a church or otherwise.

Some of those pastors make millions.

I'm over every last bit of this.

Not surprised as trump as put his minions in place throughout the country and in control of much of the voting process.

wendy_jaffe They aren't taxed. They don't get tax money.

UNACCEPTABLE, OFFENSIVE, OUTRAGEOUS!

So much for the separation of church & state!! So are they planning on making them pay taxes then too? I also wonder 🤔, are they including synagogues & mosques in this? My guess would be NO. Somehow they’ll be excluded I bet, especially because this is coming from the WH. 🤬

They. Don’t. Pay. Taxes.

Cool are they gonna collect taxes from them too then?

No way!

Then they must be taxed.

“Under the Trump admin, the federal government has already been providing funds directly to churches, synagogues, mosques and other religious organizations. In 2018, the Federal Emergency Management Agency changed its rules to make houses of worship eligible for disaster aid.”

They don’t pay taxes, they don’t get fed money. Pretty simple if you ask me.

It’s not just churches. It includes all faith-based organizations.

Anything to try and buy votes.

Providing $$ to churches crosses the constitutionally prohibited line w/respect to the establishment clause. If churches = businesses; they must be taxed. Do ALL religious groups qualify or only some? FFRF If ever there was a time for a constitutional challenge this is it.

This is so not good.

Starting a church, paying myself 100k a month

HellNo

No. I don't want any part of this.

So they’re going to be getting SBA loans. So we’re finally admitting that churches are businesses? Because that’s all they are. God is gonna get all of y’all

The federal government has no right to give taxpayer money to any church. These mega churches with pastors living in mega-mansions and flying in private jets can afford to bail out the smaller churches. They pay 0 tax and should not get handouts, help the citizens first.

NO. This cannot happen.

Screw that. Churches get handouts? FUCK paying my taxes then.

I wonder if this money will be distributed equally among pastors of many religions? Will they have to be friends of Trump? Will religions that Trump doesn’t like get part of these funds?

If they get federal $$$ THEY MUST PAY TAXES!!!

The hell they will. Time for taxpayers to stop this nonsense now. KeepChurchStateSeparate AmericansUnitedForSeparationOfChurchAndState

What happened to the separation of church and state?

What?!

FFRF DanBarkerFFRF what are you doing to prevent this obvious violation of church and state

Then they need to start paying taxes

Imma getting in line.

Omg !!! So much for separation of church and state !!! How much do you want to bet it won’t include non-christian churches !!!

Uhhhhh....No. I do not want my tax dollars paying for that grifty, cultish bullshit. How bout we pay for health care for everyone instead?

Oh for fuck sake. So what are the odds of a bunch of Blue states just seceding and forming a separate bloc with Canada? They'd control most of the ports and could probably take quite a lot of the military with them as the less-likely-to-steal-their-pensions group

And mosques and synagogues?

WTF? NNNOOOO!!!!!!

If any church accepts federal money, they should immediately lose their tax exempt status.

Next time Republicans complain about 'entitlements,' which include helping low income, sick or disabled people, remind them they supported giving people money who pay no taxes at all. Let the churches take up a collection.

SpeakerPelosi this is an outrage. Churches don't pay taxes. TaxTheChurches

Are you kidding me? The churches don’t pay taxes!

There flocks ain't gonna help 'em.

I wonder.....will all the people on Facebook complaining about cruise lines wanting a bailout complain about this too? (I doubt it)

Revolting. Given how absent “God” has been during this whole thing.....

you’re missing the best opportunity yet to let religion die

If this happens, churches should not be able to claim nonprofit status.

Oh, HELL, no.

If they want relief money, then they need to start paying taxes

I believe that as long as they provide money to all churches, it may be okay (by letter of law), but if they exclude any denominations, then it is unconstitutional.

So we will offer socialism to churches, farmers, banks, auto companies and airplane manufacturers but hot damn if you have to give someone a check because they aren't able to work for 4 months that's a fucking take to the streets moment.

Money should go to people and those people should decide whether to give it to their churches or not.

No. Not with our Tax money. THEY don't pay Taxes, and deserve nothing. Foetus - The Only Good Christian Is A Dead Christian via YouTube

Not ok with this.

Where is the seperation of Church and State? Secondly if you are tax exempt how can you possibly benefit from taxpayers money?!

Lol Grifters gonna grift

That's a massive lawsuit waiting to happen, eh ACLU FFRF ?

then churches should pay taxes

The absolute fucking grift of churches

Let the charities and churches help them. Isn’t that what we’re supposed to do with medical bills and other hardships? (According to the GOP, anyway.)

If you believe this, why out of 4400 words in the Constitution, not one is church/religion/god

If they want federal aid maybe they should PAY TAXES

In other news, women are forming the Church of our Sainted Abortion Rights. Its primary sacrament is health care service to all pregnant people who want to end their pregnancies. Our pastors are ob/gyns. Thank you for your taxpayer money, Republicans. AbortionIsEssential

This is fucking ridiculous. My tax dollars. Bullshit.

BUT. THEY. DONT. PAY. TAXES. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

And that would come from the taxes they pay?

Oh no no no no no.

NO NO NO,

UFB

Sorry, sorry, no f’ n way. They aren’t paying taxes as it is! People need to write their reps!

ltgrusselhonore Wtf? Pay those grifters ripping off their congregants weekly to pay for their Lear jets? Omg. Jesus is rolling over in his grave. Yes, that's right. His grave.

Oh helllllll noooooo

Umm ... NO!

Even this messiah dotard must give tithes, with blood and/or money.

You've got to be kidding!!!!! All of a sudden the CHURCH has no money? UFB!

jesus doesn't want or need my tax dollars.

Um separation of church and state mean anything to anyone?

They don’t pay taxes. What about church and state?

Then churches can start paying taxes.

He'll no

This has to be a fucking joke right? These MF’s don’t even pay taxes!!!

Buying the church vote?

This ain’t make no sense at all

The satanic_temple_ needs to do their thing because 1stAmendment Secularism

No f*cking way

I'm ordained as a Jedi. Do I get a check?

What are the congregations donations going to be used for? This is nuts! Separation of church and state.....

Then they need to start paying taxes.

Who decides which churches get the money and how much? Will the money only go to Christian churches? What about super-rich mega churches? Story says churches, what about synagogues and mosques — GOP will not like that.

Churches don't pay taxes, why should they get money while I'm stuck without a stimulus check?

Next thing you know, Reverend Trump is going to line everyone up to drink the Koolaid, for real.

The problem is ’s interpretation of the constituonal provision and not the funding.

Oh no!!pass the f’n basket

Someone please explain how corporations & cults that pay zero taxes get bailed out, but citizens that pay taxes are left to fend for themselves

This from the party that claims to respect the Constitution, no less.

Anybody know if all non profits will get $, or is it only churches?

How do we stop this? Churches don’t pay taxes therefore they should not get federal handouts. Period.

Alyssa_Milano Not 1 fucking dime of my taxes needs to be spent on the lying child abusive cults

What...the actual....fuck....

Are those the same people defying SocialDistancing and StayAtHome orders? Because fuck those guys. Hard.

Which secular group is going to sue first: FFRF, AmericanAtheist, americnhumanist, seculardotorg. Whichever does can expect a donation from me.

Will they also pay Mosques and Temples, Jewish and Buddhist? If Christian churches get it..All faith traditions must get it.

That is wrong. If they accept money then their tax status should change. I don't pay taxes to support religion.

Alyssa_Milano WTF happened to “God will provide” and all that bullshit?

Are they also going to give this money to mosques, synagogues, the Church of Satan? We all know the answer to that is no. Even if it were yes, it would still be unconstitutional.

Alyssa_Milano WTF?

no no NO!!!!!!!!!

This is wrong on so many levels, but first and foremost THIS VIOLATES THE 1ST AMENDMENT by preempting the clear separation of church and state. americansunited

.PattyMurray SenatorCantwell RepJayapal This is not okay.

Nope. This should illegal

Wtf

Gtfo

No! If they want a handout, then let the Mega Churches pay dividends to all smaller churches. If the government pays a non-profit, then the government will own it. Don’t be stupid, America! Oh.... too late!!

No. Tax exempt. No. No they will NOT. Not until every foodservice worker in the country gets their wages paid 100%. No. No, churches, no.

Nope. This is absolutely not ok.

No way! It’s about time to pass legislation that would require places of worship to pay property tax, and any pastor, rabbi, warlock, whoever preaches for a living, to pay income tax.

Sending money to the NRA will be next.

So can we also keep The Freedom From Religion Foundation on the payroll?

WTF !!!! SeparationChurchAndState !

We should NOT be supporting churches. I’m sorry, but tax exemption means no bail out with tax $$

Uh... not only no but hell no

This is some bullshit.

Fuck that.

If arresting people for playing outside is Constitutional, why wouldn't this be?

Whatever happened to ‘God will provide’?

Its because Trump knows he has a big religious following...he wants to make sure he gets the votes... Churches and there Pastors have a big influence on they flock....this is why I dont go to church....its a Trump cult

How bout just letting their congregants donate 10% of what they get from the govt? Churches, synagogues, mosques, etc. are really just private clubs.

Trump knows he’s got the Supreme Court under his thumb. They will do literally anything he says. Anything.

They'd be bailing out circuses if they brought in enough money to lobby for bribes. Utterly ridiculous.

How do we apply. I,coincidentally, started a church a few weeks ago.....angrynap is the sexton

This doesn’t “challenge” the Constitution so much as it completely shreds it. USAisnotatheocracy

What's the difference between Trump and a petty dictator dulling out favors to his admirers.

You either ride or die for the constitution or you don’t. People always want purism when it comes to guns but let it slide for 1st and 4th and anything else they personally believe in or don’t care about. *coughPatriotAct*

Time to start my own religion

I’ll take, “Buying votes with tax payer money” for $1000

After Joel sells the fleet of cars

I've lost track of how many times I've used this gif today

This is nonsense. All those overpriced jets and big mansions aren’t enough coming from their congregations?

They don’t pay taxes so this cannot happen.

NO NO NO!!!!

I would say I am shocked but then I remember back to 2017 when Pence mandated that USAID demonstrate how all disaster relief programming in Iraq and Syria was benefitting Christians.

More money for satan's little crew. The only thing churches don't do like politicians these days are...ah damn. I got nothing.

I'm REALLY against this. My tax dollars should never be used for religious purposes. Let them handle their own. Churches do not pay taxes & should never benefit from tax relief. It makes no sense.

Mark_Sheppard Christ on a crutch!!!!! 🤨

Let's see...this will make it to the Supreme court and the five conservative justices will approve.

No....no....no....SEPARATE CHURCH AND STATE. NO!

This is harsh. Not giving them much time to pull their celebrated Loaves and Fishes trick again. That was a blockbuster.

Wow

Some churches are still holding services and then going into the community exposing us all to the corona virus

So could all of us declare that we are churches & the gov’t pays our salaries & utilities?

Tax them.

Alyssa_Milano They collect billions in donations every without paying any taxes and now tax payers are donating more so they can pay their employees and the utilities on their gigantic church buildings? I call bullshit!

So what, every citizen is now paying to help pay one religious organization's churches? ( because better believe they only care about Christian churches) Nevermind there are Americans who follow different religions and churches don't pay taxes

Uh excuse me. Mosques, Jewish Temples, Church of the Fuzzy Bunnies, Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Church of Satan many others would like to be included in the dowling U.S. government passing out cash to religious.

No, this isn’t right!

Mark_Sheppard NO! NO! NO! If they want to start receiving government help then churches need to start paying taxes.

Is there a single word for “super unconstitutional?”

I'll take care of them. Just hand me that basket with the seven loaves and two fishes in it.

How are we not overthrowing the government yet?

It’s a win-win for trump, which is all that matters to the feckless assholes in DC....The Evangelicals will be in heaven and vote, vote and vote some more for him In November....

JFC🤬

This is what’s wrong in America. If they deserve any funding then they deserve to pay taxes that help generate such funding.

Oh F$ NO

Wow.

So that means that religious organization will start paying taxes now? Here's a plan, if they take the benefit, then they forfeit their tax-exempt status going forward

Whaaaaaaat?

They’re going after them all. 3rd amendment next, gotta let troops move in with us?

How can organizations that don't pay taxes get to feed at the public trough? Let them go broke.

Hell no.

What the fuck. Given the number of rich megachurch pastors out there, this is absolutely criminal.

Disgusting

NoCashForCults

What in the fuck is wrong with people. Why does a belief need money

I run a Santanic church do we get some too?

Pay some damn taxes then! They deserve ZERO tax dollars

This comes from the orange man who paid off the porn star to keep quiet after he banged her when his third wife was recovering from delivering his fifth kid.

Good by America how are ya Don't ya know me I was the Constitution.

Time to start my religion, The Church of Cake™️

So. Does that mean that they will pay taxes now? I mean, they play both sides without shame. Massive property tax revenue generated would fund many, many social programs. They have been fleecing the American people for centuries ALONG with their 'flocks!'

WWTFSMD? Ramen. henderob

What the hell? Not a single taxpayer dime should go to ANY entity that doesnt play taxes. If they want money, they should start paying taxes for minimum of 10 years

How the Religious Right learned to stop worrying and love socialism.

If this does happen, will the government be giving money to rabbis, imams, etc. or is this just paying for those who support Christianity? If that is the case, seems even more wrong/unfair.

Alyssa_Milano This is just wrong!!! What happened to separation of church and state. And would this be to all religious denominations or is just the ones who support trump?

Fuck every bit of this. 😡

If this goes to all religious orgs—mosques churches temples— I don’t see an issue. Doing nothing is not always the impartial move. Christians jews and Muslims deserve to have houses of worship maintained just as much as atheists deserve to practice nothing at all.

If that's the case, then they should lose their tax exemptions! Start taxing these churches if they want to be politically involved!

MGthefuture I quit. Think I’m gonna go and waste my time learning Reason so I can live in ignorance.

Sorry?!? Churches don’t pay taxes and it’s faith based on tithes and donations. Wow

Any citizen who wants their local church to have their money can mail that church a check. Why do all taxpayers have to support churches they don’t like, agree with, or visit? Church and state are separate. The government forcing me to give them my tax dollars violates that.

No no no no no no and NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. They pay zero in taxes and have max influence in most political decisions. No. Freedom of religion means freedom to follow and NOT PERSECUTE any one religion. Not government handouts to these faiths. Ffs

Wtf

The fuck they will.

Alyssa_Milano Bullshit ! They are nonprofit , tell their dam followers to pay those things .

This is not right. Seperation of church and state. If that's the case these churches owe a lot of back taxes.

The lawsuits need to start.

Let the leaders of those religions pay, ie the Vatican! All those religions have loads of money stashed away!

Fuck that noise separatechurchandstate or TaxChurches

MiaFarrow What about hazard pay to doctors, nurses

ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NO!

Outrageous They need to pay taxes plus you'll have to pay Imans too

Pay taxes

God takes John Prine and leaves us with Amonn Bundy, and then he wants money. Not bloody likely!

Fuck this

No

I will stop paying taxes before I give a cent to religion.

Alyssa_Milano 'When a Religion is good, I conceive that it will support itself; and, when it cannot support itself, and God does not take care to support, so that its Professors are oblig'd to call for the help of the Civil Power, it is a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.'

What is going on

SpeakerPelosi If churches get taxpayer funding for pastors salaries, then churches should also *pay* taxes. I support removing the tax exemption for all religious institutions.

No.

CHURCHES 👏 DON'T 👏 NEED 👏 FEDERAL 👏 MONEY 👏 THE 👏 WORKING 👏 CLASS 👏 DOES

They don't pay taxes. They don't get our tax dollars.

MiaFarrow Unbelievable

Not OK. You don’t get a tax exemption and then ask for tax payer money.

That's bullshit!

ChurchofSatan

Joel Osteen doesn't need our f'ing money. Not. One. F'ing. Dime. Here's a thought: be like JESUS (remember Him?) and give it to the poor.

Oh HELL NO! If individuals who didn't file tax returns can't gets 'stimulus' check, neither can organizations that NEVER pay taxes. Let GOD provide for them. If the GOP says tax $ can't go to Planned Parenthood for reasons of conscience, neither can my tax $ go to churches.

No!

Constitution Schmonstition. He doesn't care and would tear the whole thing up if he could. By the time he's done dishing out our money to churches, who pay no taxes, any court actions will be too late. His philosophy is l'etat c'est moi.

Hmmm...

Oh helllllll no!

WTF!

EXCUSE ME

What? Why?

At this point when you're watering down constitutional violations to protect a liar you're just part of his crew

This doesn't challenge the constitution. It's in blatant violation of the constitution.

By 'challenge the constitution' you mean 'unconstitutional'?

Is this coming out of their taxes? Oh they don’t pay taxes.

Time to open that church I always wanted

This is obviously a violation of separation of church and state AKA incentive for Trump base to vote for him. Does the GOP just fully ignore democracy now? CoronavirusUSA

This is blood boiling BS!!

Um, no!

And what support will the feds be offering Mosques, Synagogues and Temples? American evangelicals and repubs showing, once again, that this is not about Jesus or faith. It’s about money, power, and ego.

That's great! Give to the churches that do work directly for the people and the community. You all complaining, but most can't get any money from them Bail out Big Banks. You ninjas call the church for help with funeral/rent expenses and. IJS itsoktoagreetodisagree

When churches become businesses and pay taxes they can be supplemented. Like so many other instances this is driven by tRumps personal investments. Meanwhile families are hungry!

Does your clergy get paid from their parishioners? If so time to find another church.

Then they pay taxes

jawja100 Well Every Murdering GOP MEMBER Is An EVANGELICAL...Let’s Steal Some More American Money(BLOODMONEY) For JESUS 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Wtf?

A nonprofit is a nonprofit. We must be hitting rock bottom if this is news !

No no no....that's bullshit

If so, money must go to every group that qualifies as a religion, not just Christian entities. Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Satanists, Witches, Hindus, Muslims, and every other religious entity must qualify.

Do Barilla and Ronzoni get a handout too? Asking for a few hundred thousand Pastafarians.

Supreme Court will vote 5-4 to allow this. Just a prediction.

WTF, then make them start paying taxes ASAP

we are witnessing the end of america as it had been. this is why trump wanted the wall, and is stationing troops on our northern border. not to keep anyone out, but to keep us in. i'd be willing to bet they are considering planting mines on the borders. americanironcurtain

What about synagogues and mosques?

Double dipping

CHURCHES DON’T Pay NO TAXES! Stop taxing them since there is no separation of church and state!

If the government committed a clerical error and accidentally knocked down a church building, people would expect the government to repay the church for damages. That's what this is.

What!!!!!!!

Ginger_Lyn_66 Unbelievable...this is not right.

What is this “Constitution” thing?

Bad government !

No, absolutely not.

No, no, no, no, . . .

afineburg As a director of a church daycare, this is a huge help for our staff who have been furloughed. Those who work for nonprofits are as much at risk as everyone else, and the vast majority of churches are not rolling in money.

Jefferson must be spinning in his grave.

This is so absurd

JoyAnnReid Trump is doing this to get moderate Republicans back! Don’t fall for the switch and bait. After the election we can get back to the constitution. It talks about emoluments and impeachment that is being overlooked by GOP too. Dems won’t win if we fight this NOW!

They gonna send checks to Imams too?

Absolutely no!

yeah. this right here is seriously troubling. Yeah. I sure hope someone blocks this. In fact? I think churches should pay taxes.

Oh so the US is making itself a theocracy then..... my muslim self needs to gtfo

They better send the money to every Mosque Sikh Buddhist and Hindu places of worship. And after that start taxing them

Hell NO

a ripoff of anyone that does pay taxes!

My parishioners have not been paying my salary! Please help my church Just the Truth Church. Please... the pictured parishioners are neglecting me!!! They are just sitting in pews taking up space.

With Trump and the GOP, the Constitution is in shreds anyway. What's one more violation?

But only Christian churches, right?

Fuck. This.

Now they want to STEAL more? WTF

Another scam

ltgrusselhonore This tells me America has money to burn.

The government has committed a taking, they owe compensation.

Both my grandfathers, my father, and my father in law are pastors, and I love my church. This is unconstitutional.

Churches and cruise ships don’t pay taxes.

🤬

I am willing to risk my very existence irregardless of the status of the Covid-19 pandemic to stand in line with proper protection and vote Democratic this November. The Republicans will not allow mail-in ballots and I fear much time and energy will be wasted with hand-wringing.

TaxTheChurches

MarkinCHS So fucked up. This country is completely broken.

I can’t take this any longer 😩

Absolutely F no! They want govt money then start paying taxes.

Calm down, any “not for profit” that pays employees is eligible. Included Muslim Clerics, Jewish Rabbis, and that scary guy in the mentions that is a high priest of Cthulhu. Must have been organized with a tax number before 2/15 I believe.

How about if you don't pay US taxes, you don't get bailouts

All intelligent people understand just how bad this Republican administration is in every possible way. Democrats need to stop whining about everything, realize there is no way to eliminate the orange TURD-IN-CHIEF unless he dies, and the absolute necessity to vote in November.

socialized religion

But business has been booming for some.

WTF?

Whhhhaaaaat.

Yikes

Then they should lose their tax exempt status.

eschor Whaat? I’m confused.

Sure, I’m good with it as long as all churches permanently lose tax exempt status in return. Deal?

Nope. Bigass nope.

If you Do Not pay taxes as others are OBLIGATED or SUBJECT TO, you get nothing and like it Spaulding!

Huh?

If this happens then they should be taxed at the corporate rate

No

So is this providing money to ALL houses of worship or just one religion? Because if it is the latter then there is no way this is legal.

Then take away their tax exemption. This is unconstitutional and Trump knows it, buying his votes.

The Constitution is on life support.

johnlundin You have got to be joking me!

FUCK NO!

SenFeinstein will probably just call it a 'pilot project,' like she did parochial school vouchers in D.C. Isn't one embarrassingly stupid Susan Collins enough already?

TAX CHURCHES

Time for these churches to pick themselves up by the bootstraps, amirite?

Hell to the no. I do not fund any sky fairies

Why?

ltgrusselhonore If the Pastors/churches are Still Having Services spreading the virus then NO $ to them. In fact, arrest the Pastors & if needed congregates as well. This IS Not a game! Stay Home,Worship from Home.God does NOT say to worship in a church building.He just says to Worship & PRAY.

Now we need an amendment to this latest handout law that specifically omits all twitter users from receiving any federal funds... none of my tax dollars going to any of the inhabitants of the twitterverse

Hell no

It would be great if there was at least a mention of the secretaries, custodial staff, childcare workers, and other staff who work for churches. It’s not all “Pastor’s salaries.” Quite frankly, I expect more from . Perhaps a good TexasStandard episode by TPRNews?

Another one of Trump’s schemes and scams. This is his bribe with taxpayers’ money. Hi makes these decisions? Call and write your Congress!!

Reduce SNAP, Social Security, Cut HC for 20M ppl, Medicaid. Give Tax break to the 1%. Now give welfare to religious pastors, plus cover their utilities is ok GOP ? DonTheCon CorruptGOP Cult45 IMPOTUS4Life

This is garbage. They don’t pay taxes. I work hard and have been fortunate to make above the limit to receive any stimulus funds but if I don’t get anything the churches should definitely not. Let the partitioners provide or as they should be saying...let the lord provide

This is a bribe for Hypocrisy

What?! My tax dollars used for another socialist program ?!

Fuck. This. Shit.

Are they paying taxes now too?

Y'all sure got one f***** up country there

Separation of church and state - kinda a core tenet of that document, isn't it?

ltgrusselhonore Buying votes

Lordy Lordy

RALindsay

Hell to the fuck no!

And nothing will be done to stop it. The SCOTUS will okay it, 5-4, and that will be that. Canada, will you adopt me?

Trump is still pandering to the evangelicals, hoping for their vote. He and his 'people' - looking at you, McConnell & Graham especially, are sanctimonious hypocrites.

Not good

I'm filing to open my church this morning.

That’s how you buy votes.

DebbieLeeArt So churches don't pay taxes, they collect money from their congregation, yet it's up to tax payers to pay their salaries and bills? Nope

WTF?

Gross

If my tax dollars are going to religious organizations the they better follow the non-discrimination laws! Marry same-sex couples, for example

jamespmanley No. Way.

Not with our tax dollars you won’t. Churches are always clamoring for tax free status so, let their congregations pay their salaries and the church’s utility bills. Make church and state truly separate.

Churches are AMONG the tax-exempts eligible under the CARES Act, not the exception. If u have beef w/ churches receiving PPP aid, then u have beef w/ other tax exempt nonprofits as well. Yall get ur panties in such a bunch the moment someone mentions “faith” or “church”. 🙄

Oh so then it will be ok to start taxing them now?

Insanity and FU to the current administration and it’s followers.

Non starter. The first thing they’ll do is place restrictions on it so the majority of churches won’t meet the criteria, then comes the shunning of non Christian churches.

“In every age it has been the tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who has wrapped himself in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to deceive and overawe the People.” -Eugene Victor Debs

JaneCanary19 That just proves they are 'in business' and not solely serving the community/deserving of tax breaks.

kathsstewart Disgusting!

My tax dollars should not go towards the worshiping of an invisible man in the sky, unless I specifically want them to.

GeoffRBennett Sooooo.....the caveat stated that in order to get any of this money, there must be previous tax filings? This does not compute!

A very dangerous move

wgdunlop Liberals are such jerks. They want to pay illegal immigrants and deny your local American pastors. Pastors whose jobs have been deliberately shut down by government. Jerks. Jerks. All jerks.

All Religions? Or just Christian?

Their congregations should share their own check with their church, as they do for other income. It's called tithing. That's how the pastor and church expenses are supported.

How ONE man gathered other’s greed and changed an entire form of government

mmass214 Fuck that shit!!!! If they need $ they can ask their congregation to mail it or use PayPal os something similar. No way should my tax $ be used for any religious institution. fuxkthatshit

jackmjenkins No.

Churches need to pay taxes not to mention they should be fact checked too.

TaxChurches

Throwing separation of church and state right out the window. It seem that Trump will stoop to anything to get reelected. Even making it rain taxpayer money all over the place

Please get me out of this 18th century hell

Are they going to give money to Mosques and Synagogues? What about Buddhist temples? How about non-denominational community centers performing the same roles as churches? The Freedom of Worship crowd really mean Freedom to be Christian and everyone else can go to Christian hell

There has never been an administration who disrespects the constitution so blatantly.

Wtf?!

Fuck. This.

This goes for mosques too?

If churches can receive taxpayer money - an abhorrent concept - they can bloody well pay taxes: Income, excise, & real-estate. I, for one, am bloody tired of the Christian infiltration into what was designed by the founders as a secular government. It is a cancer on democracy.

Ok. Churches are considered businesses too. Several churches also have schools whose employees are currently being laid off because of the Coronavirus and are NOT eligible for unemployment. This is way more complicated than people think.

Matthew 21:12 “Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves” Where is the faith?

BUT THEY ARE NOT A BUSINESS. THIS IS DIRECTLY OPPOSED TO THE CONSTITUTION.

I actually wouldn't mind this if they vetted the charitable contributions of the given house of worship

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No. No. No.

grifters

TaxChurchesNow

To everyone saying, “Then they should pay taxes.” - No. The only answer is that they don’t receive any federal aid. We have separation of church and state for a reason. Not paying tax is a benefit of, not the cause of, the separation between the two.

What the actual NO

What?!?

NPR

No.

Time for them to pay taxes.

Then they can freaking pay taxes. NO NO NO we should not bail out churches!!!!!

That's insane!

NO!!!!! Separation of Church & State. If they want federal help, they need to start paying federal taxes!!!!

Absolutely the fuck not

What. Then tax them, too.

just funny how the current 'meaning' of the first amendment has so little to do with what the founders meant when they wrote it. easy to find out what the intent was...they wrote a lot about the intent of the various parts of the bill of rights at the time.

becksbytes

Absolutely NO! Unless they start paying taxes, no taxpayer bailout.

1963. 1980.

Oh hell no.

If today were April 1st this would make sense. WTH?

Take that shit right out of the tithing fund. No taxes! No relief!

Sounds like they are receiving stimulus money just like other businesses in the Country. Probably should lose their tax-exempt status then.

Oh hell no! They are a proud not for profit and should not qualify considering how much money churches in general bring in. CC SRuhle could you comment because Are you kidding me with this?!

I bet they gonna manipulate this so it mostly applies to christian churches. If I was the leader of a satanist church I would raise hell to get my cut. Pardon the pun.😡😡😡😡

As much as I hate this, nonprofits of all kinds are eligible for small business loans, and I assume, the small business bailout. So this IS fairly consistent with normal policy. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth, though.

Time to regulate religion and license the clergy then. They'll have to perform a whole bunch of gay weddings.

Is this all churches, synagogues, mosques, and even the satanic one near me in Detroit that loves to point out the hypocrisy of stuff like this? Or just the ones that form Spanky and the Nosepicker's base?

WTF

Unconstitutional!!!

Will they also pay rabbis and imams?

FUCK NO! IF THEY PAY NO TAXES, THEY GET NO MONEY. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!

Cc: ACLU

Fake news.

It will all go to the crooked, high profile, Evangelical assholes.

Then churches need to start paying taxes from here on out

What the fuck

SMDH cult life

For fucks sake. Once again for the hard of hearing. They MUST pay taxes.

It's a LOAN. It's also because many churches/synagogues/mosques pay church employees/pastors out of weekly tithing/donations. Most donations are now going to relief efforts in community based programs in most religious organizations. The heart of most communities is faith based.

This is sad

Bullshit! Pay taxes then!

The gop has been stacking the courts for this moment. MoscowMitchMCConnell is not touching anything treasonous NarcissistInChief does because this was their trade off with DT. We all know trump isn’t religious, but he’s ok using religion to funnel money as long as he gets a cut

Love all the people calling for people who come into country illegally to get government assistance free health care free car and repairs free phone free school and tax return after working under table and not paying taxes are upset over this. Now you know how the rest of us feel

Silly comments... Regardless of whether u r a minister performing ministerial services as an employee or a self-employed person, all of ur earnings, including wages, offerings, & fees you receive 4 performing marriages, baptisms, funerals, etc., are subject to income tax.

This is garbage.....they pay zero taxes but will be bailed out by taxpayer dollars? What about other non-profits? Will they receive the same or only the ones that agree with Trump’s agenda?

This administration and the gop under the orange twit have shreded the constitution except for the 2nd amendment. Just like its only constituency, the evangelicals, who cherry pick at the bible and follow only those verses that fit their warped view.

This is absolutely criminal and must be blocked.

This literally goes against the constitution. This can not be allowed

Anyway to get a vote.

Socialism for religion, so it dosen't rely and serve their flock It relys on the state

So churches are businesses even if they don't conduct any business and shouldn't pay taxes. But pastors should be reimbursed with tax dollars. And trump admin shouldn't have to deal with any oversight into how they disburse money. Wow

This means MANY small businesses will not get funds because religious organizations will use a lot of funds approved for small businesses.

This is what happens when religious nuts run for office and ignorant people vote them in. They have no intentions of upholding the constitution, it’s all a scheme to inject their fantasies into our secular government.

disgusting

I’m assuming they’re doing this for synagogues, temples, and mosque as well?

Burn every church to the ground, religion is the root & cause of all that is wrong with society

That is not right. They don't pay taxes and if they dont have enough members to pay the Pastor and the bills then they need not be a church. The Pastor needs to get a full-time hob like the rest of us, instead of living off the backs of others.

As a pastor, I'm suspicious of this. Not sure I want the church being beholden to the government on my account. Especially THIS government. This is a deal with strings.

For what? Let Jesus take the wheel! Have Joel Osteen sell one of his mansions Jesus wanted him to have or that POS Ken Copeland!

This plan will last until 45 is told that 'churches' includes mosques, synagogues, and rastafari gatherings.

WHAT

Opens the door for more 'chuches' to be established and apply for loans that will be forgiven. Let's keep printing money.

You don't pay into the system, you don't get nothin' out

This is wrong!

Now they get a slice of pie!! And the poor keep getting poor😂😂😂😢

Gahdammit

These religious zealots always want other people to pay for their bigotry.

Shouldn't that be the job of the Synod, the Southern Baptist Convention, or the Dioces?

Why don’t the just leave it in gods hands. Thoughts and prayers.

No way. Churches are rich. They don’t need any help from the government. The Catholic Church has more gold than Fort Knox. When this is over America needs to change a lot of loopholes.

What is tithes covering? Shouldn’t have arch church have a building fund to cover their bills?

Including synagogues and Mosques?

Let the churches die.

NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!

Fuck this!!!

Who do they think they are? They don't pay taxes so they don't get to play. They can get help from god or Jesus but not from me goddamn it.

Nawww man, god can miracle them some money.

SpeakerPelosi AOC HouseDemocrats when all of this is done can you all please pass a law to start taxation for all religious organizations and churches. Sick of the hypocrisy, corruption and collusion of both church and state.

Is this The Onion?

Churches need to pay some fffkin' taxes.

Wait, what? This should be an Onion article, not a factual article. What the hell.

2 words: Handmaids Tale - they don’t pay taxes - why should the government help those who don’t pay taxes and screw all of us with their $1200 total for the foreseeable future! WTF?

This must be what happens when you’ve never seen a copy of the constitution, let alone read it. Just when you thought things couldn’t get any more ridiculous.

In 2018, (FEMA) Federal Emergency Management Agency changed its rules to make houses of worship eligible for disaster aid.

JoanPennnative “SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE”! Providing Churches relief funds will violet their “tax exemption! Since they do not pay taxes they can not receive relief funding! They would have to have their”Tax exempt” status revoked! Per Constitution! No tax filing no Emergency relief funds!

Get them taxed then !!!! Parasites

No!

This is a big HELL NO! Churches don't even pay taxes. Give that god damn money to the people it's the Peoples money not the Fucken So Called Christians. We can not allow this to happen.

Uh. No.

Wtf!

Uh, how many ways can America say....Unconstitutional?

We are NOT a theocracy. Separation of church and state.

Time to start burning shit down.

ChurchofSatan what're you gonna spend the money on?

why? they don't pay taxes.

This is so so wrong

Nope nope nope. Fuck nope. They dont pay a cent of taxes, I do not want a cent of mine going to them.

ChurchofSatan y’all getting in on this?

That's a disgrace

Please stop this ripoff SenWarren RepLoriTrahan Thank you.

I don't want my taxes going to churches for anything. They don't pay taxes and there's a little something called the 1st amendment.

Tax the churches!

Guess we now know one reason Trump removed oversight to COVID-19 emergency spending

Election year is such a trip isn’t it

Then make them pay taxes

realDonaldTrump destroyed faith in man, government supplies, CHURCH & STATE in 1175 days. Jesus knows we deserve better. I expect God himself to work out every angle of nonsense Trump caused. Trump is not my problem. God does not need money. I'mma be where I am at.

Noooooo, WTF NO!

All religion is horrible.

Any church that gets government subsidy becomes public property, I can go into there and use it whenever I want. Like for LAN parties and stuff.

Are they going to pay taxes like the rest of us?

GOP gotta bribe their base

OUTRAGEOUS!!

WTF

Ahem. These people don’t need a bailout.

Lol

Do churches pay taxes? What happened to the separation of church and state?

Then it is way past time for churches to pay taxes.

That’s it, I’m starting a church and I’m becoming a pastor. I’ll fill in the details later

Churches don't even pay taxes!

No.

RichSweetz Um. No.

What the hell?!

How do we get together to stop this rather than venting into the ether?

Giving them the green light to continue defying social distancing

I’m scared.

Hey, ‘fellow’ Evangelicals. STOP. The gospel is not about gaining govt favor, power, wealth. You are building your own prison & undermining your own message. WOE.

Time to start my own religion & church. I’m looking for believers!

How’re they going to react when Muslims, Zoroastrians, Hindus, satanic cultists want their expenses covered, too—because you know it’s going to come up, don’t you?

Well if this isn't a good reason not to pay your taxes, I don't know what is...

Just in time for Maundy Thursday—the day we remember Judas Iscariot taking government money. . Betrays Gospel AND Constitution in a single swipe.

Just give money to the churches that are closed. Not the churches that are staying open and helping the spread

Churches with any integrity, basic sense, & comprehension of scripture will say No, Thank You.

Can we not

You think they would've planned for that rapture when they raked in all that tax free money.

WTF?!!!

Churches need to pay taxes!

panayiotab What?! Why

Are you fucking kidding me

GuillotinesNow

Folks. If we want this madness to discontinue we must organize and take to the streets. Period.

T R U M P 2 0 2 0

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Pride3000ChurchofArt 😂

Sorry, that’s a service only for those who pay taxes.

soooo will they be providing money to synagogues and mosques too? 👀

Guess I'm a pastor now

If the pastor has a private plane and several houses , that just doesn't seem right

What?!?!?!

SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE. IT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL THING.

Lmao

This is wrong

No No No No

Uh y’all said what?!

Seems fair, Joel Osteen can't be in two places at once so let God hire him another pastor, buy another Jet hopefully a 787= more jobs fly around and promise the world we'll be fine. ⛳✈️🙏🍺

Stop! Don't even make the argument that hospitals are necessary societal entities. All proponents of funds to religious entities would argue that they are essential to society too.

Oh, hell no!

The argument that religious organizations don't pay taxes, so they don't deserve a bailout is VERY flawed. Nearly 4000 of this country's hospitals don't pay taxes. Do we deny them access to dollars?

No. This is SO not America.

wait WHAT?!

Fuck that!

No fucking way!

Then we need to exclude Scientology.

No! This is wrong.

Then churches should pay taxes!!

Oh hell no

So they get to keep all the money they raise, pay no taxes and Trump wants to pay them government, taxpayers money as well. Makes total sense. 😵

Can’t they just get by in thoughts and prayers?

THEY DONT PAY TAXESB

God is a big business. USA's God Inc., when tallied as GDP, is the 16th global economic power, tax-free. When souls aren't in the pews it's like a market slow down. Tax breaks get donations that arrange bailouts.

Well, this is pretty disgusting.

Bullshit - you want fed money then you pay taxes!

If the pastor lives in a house worth more than $150,000 then no.

Dear citizens, I don't care what religion you are, you should know a little bit about what Jesus of the bible actually commanded. Look up the sermon on the mount stuff. Also, look up 'prosperity gospel'.. these charlatans have taken over & it is NOT Christ-like at ALL. Fuck this.

Non-mega churches might have to furlough positions like janitors, but we could just pay working people directly instead of giving loans to churches. Now the churches can play games with the money and not have it go where they say it's going.

Quickly people make up your own church, doesn't matter the type of church, it will get you 🤑🤑🤑🤑.......then you'll be able to pay taxes. DEAL? or NO DEAL?....ooh wait that's a game show. Sorry but not sorry! TaxChurches period bc they're 'Essential Businesses' 🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄😡😡

Churches who who offer nothing to society, completely exempt from tax, already getting donations from the general public, now getting hand outs too? smfh

Let their fucking god provide. Hello? Or let them shake down their parishioners per tradition. I don't want my hard earned tax dollar going to support something that goes against my beliefs. . Turn about is fair play bitches!

But what if they're not businesses, but rackets?

letat_lechat Then they can start paying taxes.

satanic_temple_

Today I declare my church of The Jesus H Christ. My pastor salary is 500,000 which I can no longer pay.

🤬😡🤬😡🤬

Ok. Pay taxes then.

seriously? what are the requirements?

The fuck?

🤬

Nope. F*ck that.

kemptont Mosques? Synagogues? Witches' covens?

Separation of church and state anyone

All religions? Muslim, Jewish, Scientology?

WTAF? 'Under the Trump administration, the federal government has already been providing funds directly to churches, synagogues, mosques and other religious organizations.'

Does this include mosques?

No way. In fact, they need to start paying taxes.

Because of course they will

No.

Churches are non profits, are worth millions and can pay for their own pastors and bills. The American tax payer should not be handing out money to churches.

'Break with the past?' Come on. Flat out constitutional violation. Tell the truth.

1st you don't have any business holding church services 2nd because of 1 don't need utilities 3rd if the congregation can't pay their pastor's salary, then lay them off like all the rest of Americans whose jobs can't pay them

danielcflanagan No fucking way. They need to pay taxes if they get support.

Oh, no, no, no!

This is a huge lawsuit. Atheists will not stand for this.

Pre-Enlightenment cretins should financially support their own made-up fairy tale bullshit.

This is bad.

Nooooooooo TaxChurches

Oh hell no.

Jesus is rolling over in his grave.

Da fuck?

What in the actual fuck is happening to our country?

What happened to the SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE? They're crooked just like this administration.

If they take tax money they can’t discriminate.

As a fully ordained Pastafarian minister, I am curious what the payout will be.

Churches are big money launderers for mob criminal money streams. Hard to launder all that money without an operating “business”.

What?!?! Whatever happened to separation of church and state

Pastors don’t pay taxes. They Are given a housing allowance and salary. Some churches offer to buy a home for the pastor as part of their compensation.

FUCK THAT. Tax Revolt now.

I only get a loan on my tax return and pastors are going to get tax free moolah from the government?

Gross.

I hate this place

Then churches must begin paying taxes immediately.

OH HELL NO. They don't get a damn dime. They didn't pay taxes, they don't get money now.

If they’d just give us all 2000 a month till this is over none of this would be necessary

He did this during the last election where were all of you? I just thought there were still decent Christians who wouldn’t vote for a pussy grabber ar a divorced man.. most churches won’t ordain a person if they have been divorced.

Give this money to the parishioners who do pay taxes on income. They can choose to tithe it or not. They pay taxes the get the benefits, not the church who is tax exempt on donation 'income' & investment income from hoarding money to build million dollar buildings.

I'm feeling more and more like the Constitution has become like the Pirate Code in the Pirates of the Caribbean. Merely suggestions.

Well that’s just bullshit.

Seperation of Church and State!

What the fuck? No.

Oh my F’g God. No pun intended. Please trace that money. Sounds like a direct funnel into a Trump acct.

Of course. Now y’all know. Business as usual in America. Learn from the Vatican. Asses. Let’s see how long you last. 2000 plus? No 500 plus. Catch up. Gracias Martin gracias Henry. Divorce got us here. Divorce. He beheaded his wives you asses. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Huh? Wtf wtf

FakeNewsAlert It is a LOAN that some church BUISNESSES can get. 'The SBA statement on the participation of faith-based organizations in the new loan program declares that some agency regulations 'impermissibly exclude some religious entities.'

Hell no.

That’s it I’m opening my own church

Noooooooooooooo!! Then let them pay taxes!

johnstiegeler

randi_vet grift for evilgelicals destroying the country while erasing separation of church and state BeBest

madmissmattie Tax the churches

Is St Trump Parrish up and running?

jackmjenkins Not a good idea in the long run

WTF

That’s ridiculous

No, no, no, no, no.

Make it stop 🥺

So christian churches and mosques and churches of satan will all receive equal funds I presume?

Excuse me?

This is unacceptable. When churches pay taxes then we'll talk.

I'm starting a new religion tomorrow and naming myself as high priest. I want part of the action.

Thoughts and prayers only. Don’t contribute to taxes you don’t get money from the tax payers. I’m sure they have a network of contacts maybe sell some of that gold to help their ppl

If our federal dollars can’t fund abortions for poor women, I don’t want them funding this either.

Im a Catholic but I’ll fight this to my last breath! SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!

Who do you think are still feeding the poor, providing meals for students not in their closed schools and helping women and girls escape sex trafficking? Faith based organizations! That’s who! Other non profit businesses non religious based businesses are allowed as well

Oh so the megachurches will become fucking-megachurches.

then we should review our policies regarding taxation

It’s money through SBA loan program: it’d be a loan - not a handout “Churches and other faith-based organizations, classified as ‘businesses,’ qualify for aid under the program, even if they have an exclusively religious orientation.”

HC_Richardson All “churches” or just evangelical mega churches? Wrong on every level but trump will turbo charge the favoritism to his base.

Fuck that! They can pay taxes then!

so like, you're just going to call this a 'challenge?'

So religion is a business. They need to pay taxes just like the rest of us if there is no separation of church and state. EverythingTrumpTouchesDies

Horrifically unconstitutional. Thoughts, TheTweetOfGod ?

Fuck no

I hate what we’ve become.

👎

OH HELL NO

Separation of church and state? This is a Christian jihad.

Just like that the way the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints putting funds away for a rainy day makes a lot of sense. Not bad for a small church with a huge financial foot print.

Welp. Time to start my own religion. Anyone care to join? We're pretty chill. We believe in whatever the fuck you want to, and we worship by NOT dressing up in stuffy, uncomfortable clothes and going anywhere to be bored for hours on end every Sunday.

God is not going to save them Bummer

So there’s this thing called the Establishment Clause

Y’all think they’ll give this money to Scientology? If you think they shouldn’t but believe your church should that is exactly why rhis is so bad. Religion is a personal opinion/preference and has no room in govt!

Eff this shiz!

Don’t bring civil disputes b4 government but it’s okay if it buys your votes, evangelicals?

No

Christians have been eating away at our constitution for years, there is no separation between church and state as long as Trump and pence are in office, in the Supreme Court is influenced by Christians

WHAT?!?!?!

In that case they need to start paying taxes.

Then ALL churches should pay TAXES!!!

What

This. Is. Beyond. F**ked.

Is there solid evidence that clergy are not being paid?

Do fucking what now?

If this happens, then, churches MUST pay taxes, just like the rest of us!

This should be challenged. Government should not pay Pastor Salaries. We can not establish or support any religious organizations.

Umm what?

No.

Then they need to start paying taxes. Now

I see Paula White got into Trump’s ear.

Hey did you hear about this ChurchofSatan ? You guys are getting paid!

Not if just keep your secular hat on and call them ‘employees’

Call your Senators and Congressional Representation and give them an absolute earful, people. And the. Tell your friends to do the same. Etc. So on and so forth..

What do we have to lose?

ALL HELL'S ABOUT TO BREAK LOOSE!!! They are turning this country literally UPSIDE DOWN!!

SpeakerPelosi help! How can this be in the bill to help taxpayers and taxpaying entities?

That includes mosques too right? 👀

What? Where is the oversight committee

Jerry Falwell Junior can't pay the vig? Joel Osteen's pool won't clean itself?

Separation of church and state! How is this legal, or are we making our own laws as we go along?

jimfromBC they're not dead yet

Churches are takers!

Jesus.

I’m not ok with this. At all.

What in the MF

🤬

oh hell no~!

No an No

Reaction to this (yet another outrageous GOP action) will lead to civil unrest. People taking to the streets brought down Nixon ... and they’ll bring down DonTheCon Like the 60s: Donald Trump, you better start shakin’, Today’s pig, tomorrow’s bacon!!! PowerToThePeople

HC_Richardson Angry.

🤦🏻‍♀️

NO!

THIS IS VILE. 😡😡😡😡😡

Isn’t Jesus supposed to pay them? Why are Americans on the hook for Jesus’s payroll? The Kingdom of Heaven should cover their own staff!

Fuck those charloittans

This would be churches only, not mosques, temples, etc?

realDonaldTrump is buying votes. VP was on a conference call with all the churches, telling them they will receive money? All this money he is giving out he probably has a stipulation about voting for him. SpeakerPelosi RepAdamSchiff

Now that’s real separation of church and state

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So if they are going to pay for anything for these churches, then they need to also be able to close them down completely to in person services without any moaning from the churchgoers or crazy virus ignoring evangelical preachers.

This is so confusing

WHAT?!! If they are businesses they should pay taxes!! This is so wrong! So many of those “pastors” are grifters!

Someone must have hacked . This can't be true.

NO!

BeSeriousUSA TaxTheChurches

Wonder if mosques will be eligible too?

HC_Richardson Nope. Fuck this noise.

FK OFF!

I'm fine with this as long as anything calling itself a church starts to pay taxes. Any taxes. All taxes. Everything.

Nope

What the hell?

How long before some telemarketing evangelical says “But not the ones that preform same sex marriages”! 3, 2, 1...

No.

This shouldn’t be allowed

Churches are basically social clubs, but tax exempt. This is ILLEGAL!!

Fine, perhaps that is the correct thing to do to help all workers, but from now on all churches must pay taxes.

Wtf

wtf. we're coming for pastors and churches.

Just refund all their tax money.

separationofchurchandstate let’s keep this separate, ok? We don’t want to end up in a Handmaids Tale world.

I hope they are taxed accordingly

They should be getting their salary from their congregation like always. This is straight bullshit.

Wait they don’t pay taxes now this! No wonder they keep preaching he is the new Jesus!

At this point, I honestly don't care.

I’m not religious, but I really don’t get the freakout here. Churches are very important to people and their communities and I don’t see why the government shouldn’t help them.

Since when? Where is separation of church & state here?

Since when God need money? I thought you couldn’t take it with you? Wtf is my new greeting. Hello? Good morning? Shalom? No. WTF...

No, just no.

Doesn't affect him since he doesn't pay taxes

Great time to start my own church. Where do I apply to get my pastor salary paid?

Wtf happened to seperation of church and state?!? If you don’t pay taxes why the hell should we bail you out?

HC_Richardson So ALL religions? Mosques? Synagogues? Native American spiritual leaders?

Even Muslim and Jewish houses of worship? I don't see that happening! These republiCONS are too filled with hate

Then I will be forming my church tomorrow.

NO! No, no, no, no, no!

SO let me get this straight. Faith based organizations don't pay taxes...but they qualify for taxpayers money to bail them out? What about the filthy rich mega churches?

No fucking way

Great, remove their tax-exempt status.

No one cares about that. Only the 2nd amendment.

What?

CAFA1968 MonaSigal MelissaKester liselisec Get a load of this!

This is 🐃💩

That's some GRADE A BS right there.

HC_Richardson What?

HaroldLang16 I guess you’re good with this. But given your outrage over non profits receiving money, this should make your blood boil.

But the average American isn’t getting any financial relief...what a joke our system really is. I’m so disappointed in our government right now.

WTF?

honestly, if they do it for ALL faiths, they could get by, but given the current administration, I will not hold my breath.

No no no no no no no.

Time to tax churches just like we get taxed.

Give them a 90 extension like they are giving every citizen on utilities. After that they need to pay up. Clergy should be treated like any person who doesn't pay into SS. With all of the money donated to churches, they should have money to assist any needs the clergy may have.

SenateDems HouseDemocrats sunny SpeakerPelosi RepAdamSchiff JoeBiden what is going on? TheView MeghanMcCain billmaher

What?!

oboy, this will be funnnnnn...

Let’s put that to a vote!

Please clarify your coverage. All 501(c)(3)s with fewer than 500 employees qualify for this program. That includes ALL religious organizations who meet the 501(c)(3) qualifications. Not a single religion.

HC_Richardson JFC!

WTF? And how are they chosen

Nope 👎

Still no answer to this question: Who paid off Brett Kavanaugh’s $92,000 country club fees plus his $200,000 credit card debt plus his $1.2 million mortgage, and purchased themselves a SCOTUS seat?

Fuck that.

Hell, no. They have donations from churchgoers, tax free status, local sponsors. It’s unconstitutional and unneeded.

Not unless churches pay taxes then!

This is unconstitutional.

I guess the GOP senate believes that they shouldn’t suffer financially during a pandemic. Have they thought of praying for money Just asking... They should just try it. Just try it what do they have to lose.

Those bums should be paying taxes. They’re grifters.

Oh, HELL NO! THAT IS GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER OF THE CHURCH! EVERY RELIGIOUS LEADER IN THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE AGAINST IT.

This is bullshit!

What. The fuck.

If churches are business they must pay taxes.

Um... Hmm... So... Is that all places of worship? Cause I can think of a few local Gurdwara's, some Catholic Churches and some Synagogues that could use that (I can't think of any mosques around, but them too).

What happened to separation of Church & State?

So we need to file lawsuit me against this. How do we organize and proceed. Churches don’t pay taxes and they shouldn’t get tax money.

This is a clear violation of the Constitution.

WHAT THE LIVING F********CK

JFC SenSasse what are you doing? The Constitution which you state you love is absolutely against this. You ok with Christian, you better be ok with Muslim, Hindu, Judaism, whatever they want. This 100% against want the founding fathers wanted and aspired too

If they dont pay taxes, then no.

Interesting. Can't wait to see the reaction when mosques try to get those checks.

HELL NO! Let the churches pay taxes!

What The church pays no taxes! How the actual fuck?

If they use taxpayer $$, then they need to pay taxes!

Please, they're already pulling from the Poor Box.

Oh hell no

One of the most ridiculous proposals I’ve ever seen. Saying this is a bad idea, is a massive understatement.

Pay the mosques, the Satanists, the flying spaghetti monster churches, Lutheran, etc. It's a slippery slope, and I'm tired of GOP doing anything without any consequences

I have pastors in the family- but F*CK THAT.

Don’t need; God will provide

1.) establishment clause 2.) don’t pay taxes.

🤔

MinoWarrior Wtf

But churches have offices and employees- secretaries, custodians, etc. These are payroll loans to prevent unemployment, not establish religion. Their employees are eligible for unemployment. This prevents that.

I believe in Forbes the top ten billionaires are evangelacalists. The mega church kingpins

What’s next the cruise lines?

TheWarMonitor Churches keep expanding and building bigger and more opulent buildings. Why is that money not spent to help the needy? Sorry, but NO, their parishioners can continue to support them.

Likely proposed by Barr, Pence n Pompeo, the grand poobahs of christianity in the admin, to keep white evangelicals and pastors of all stripes voting 4 this fool as their friends n relatives die around them. This is frackanakabulls*it.

I expect that this will also apply to Mosques and Inmans, Monks and Buddhist Temples, Rabbis and Synagogues as well as other non Christian Religions but I won't hold my breath.

Praise the lord! and 'Pass the ammunition/donation baskets!'. (heavy sarcasm on this announcement).

What?

NOPE FUCK THAT!!! If so the church needs to pay TAXES!!!

Fuck that. Churches don’t pay taxes. Separation of church and state.

I'm with you, I've seen 40 yrs of this corporate greed cancer. I made better wages in the 70's. Tired of the corruption.

QueenGeeGee30

does this include small mosques?

Let the lawsuits begin

Curious who sets a pastor's salary

ewarren can you help us

I’m “shocked”

Fuck NO! NO! NO!

Holy F***

Churches and religious nonprofits do pay payroll taxes for those who don’t know. They are employers just like any other company.

They DO NOT PAY TAXES .... and now being compensated for what? NEVER PUT ANY MONEY IN IT AND NOW GETTING FREE MONEY OFF THE TAXPAYERS ? What the f..k

How much taxes do these parasites pay? churchvsstate

Going to be interesting when a mosque applies. Especially with the rabid anti Muslim crowd.

What?They aren’t paying normal people.

If they don’t pay taxes they don’t get help

Let’s see....specific Trump supporting “churches”

Pastor....salaries....

There ought ho be a law!! (oh yeah, wait...)

WTAF...they don’t pay ANY taxes

MinoWarrior Evangelical christianity has a stranglehold on on government. Jesus would not be okay with any of this.

Another play to the evangelical base.

No no no no..... They don't pay taxes, they don't get bail outs.

Vote democratic

No way. I'm not paying not one person... What in the world is this? What kind of constitution stomp are they playing at here?

Churches that don’t pay taxes?

Churches have never paid a penny in taxes now they are gonna get free money?! Bruh.

As if the only way to keep churches afloat is to have lots of people going to church. If they believe they are supposed to tithe 10%, why can't they just mail it in? Why should those of us who have no formal religion have to pay taxes to support other people's churches?

This is absolutely wrong. Government should be seperated from religion so it can be independent and govern for all.

Hard pass

no.

Does that mean churches will no longer be tax exempt?

Unconstitutional. If they want this then take away there tax free status.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. NO!!! TaxChurches

I’m an ordained online minister, Jewish and agnostic. I am totally applying. We will see how that goes over.

Oh! Hell Nah!

Does that include mosques, synagogues, etc.?

Unacceptable!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF? They don’t pay taxes so why would they get help? LosingMyReligion

Oh HellNo!

Hell no. Pastors need to get off their asses and do an honest days work.

What the absolute fuck. Can I just decide not to pay taxes then?

They get a penny until they start paying taxes.

This particular thing is not a hill we need to die on. Just wait...

What the hell ?!?

Tax them. Tax. Them. All.

Absolutely not

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Oh fuck no.

Churches do not pay taxes, and that is the money they shall use to pay their pastors. They DO NOT get any tax money back. Period.

Jesus Tax Avoiding Christ

So what do I qualify for as a genuine Pope of Discordia?

Then they need to be taxed.

WTF?

No hell no.

No taxes, no bailout

No fucking way

Fine. Then let’s start taxing churches. Will bring in a shitload of money.

$100,000 to CAIR $57,000 to the Muslim American Society (MAS) $100,000 to Dar al-Hijrah, a hardline Virginia mosque the amount of taxpayers' money to orgs either influenced or controlled by Islamist activists more than tripled from $4 to $13.5 million. GFY

Nice! So they are paying into the tax pull now Right?!?

NOPE. NO WAY. It’s past time to tax them.

Churches don’t pay taxes so how is that fair?

What the actual fuck

Again; why do they put up with Dump? They want the judiciary so they can do shit like this.

That deal with the Trump-devil finally paying off for evangelicals... LITERALLY.

Donald gots to pay if Donald wants to see...

Great, time to start taxing them too.

This is totally insane.

What. The. Fuck.

No. Money should be given directly to we the people and those us who wish, should support our church. And where do you draw the line? There's some weird churches out there that the government shouldn't be supporting. And then some churches might be left out.

brahmresnik dougducey POTUS WTH they don’t pay taxes yet we are going to pay them what is wrong with you people?! WeWillRememberInNovember

Don't pay taxes, but taxpayers will pay them? Sounds real fair

ACLU

what the holy fucking fuck.

Little by little the wall of Separation is crumbling. The superficial conservative class desires this and when they finally succeed, there will be religious discrimination leading to persecution. It can happen here.

Who do I sue?

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no

so those that take money from the federal government like other businesses will be paying taxes like other businesses FThis FedUpWithFascistTrump FedUpWithFascistGOP

you have to be f'ng kidding me....they are supported by their parishoners, & are not required to report OR pay taxes - this is in direct conflict with the separation of church and state that is in the Constitution

Not unless they pay taxes. There needs to be a lawsuit filed immediately.

This is not about financially bailing out the churches. Just an intended consequence of getting Trump reelected.

Okay, but tax them.

Maybe god should help them instead?

WHAT?

LissKron Oh, what do you think about pastors being arrested, NPR? Or better question, do you think it's even a problem? Or only when something remotely good happens to Christians?

Just wanna throw it out there that I’m still ordained. StimulateThatCheck

wtf

What % of USA is affiliated w/ a church? What % of them vote? The majority of USA rarely votes in every election. Another major reason to get the primaries and Nov right. There is a plan here folks. $$$$&&&

But my friends who are Hair Stylists don't qualify for Unemployment Benefits? realDonaldTrump & Billionaires who fund Conservative Super PACS are turning the US into a Conservative Christian Tea Party Party Fascist State

This is what Republicans Administrations do. Lie, cheat, steal and change the laws to suit them.

What?

What churches? Synagogues? Mosques? Megachurches? How do you count how large their congregation is to decide how much they get? This is not even feasible much less constitutional. Big NO.

I hate this country more every like 15 minutes now. I'm close to absolute 0

This cant be real

The Devil is always busy

Debbie56111656 That's in complete violation of the establishment clause. . . Trump is the antichrist.

This perfect metaphor for the GOP TrumpAdministration …… and I don't think any of them give a damn anymore

This is complete and utter BULLSHIT

No.

Why not let God provide?

No, absolutely not!

Screw that shit!

Works for our church. We will see how it plays out. Small churches fine, but Paula White and Joel Osteen better not get any cash

Tax the church

Are the churches paying taxes? No? Then they shouldn’t get federal dollars. 🤬😡

Fuck that

Bullshit

TAX churches

NO!

Not gonna happen

churches have the lord. that’s their bailout. the end.

Do they even pay taxes?

SeperationOfChurch ReligiousFreedom VoteBlueToEndThisNightmare FlipTheSenateBlue VoteBlueToSaveAmerica VoteBlueToSaveOurDemocracy Biden2020

Fuck way off

So do Mosques and Synagogues qualify as well?

The churches who get government money should pay taxes.

why?

how is that even possible

Just return a portion of the taxes they've paid.

Suddenly, I am a minister.

WTF?

WTF

DFire45 WTMF has this country become?

Why does God need a bailout?

Question to , does NPR pay taxes

They're non profits.

Fuck no

Nope nope nope nope nope

The Supreme Court will still rule in favor of Trump by cherrypicking a narrow strawman question and resolving it instead. This is why we VOTE. VoteBlueToSaveAmerica Election2020

No. Nuh uh. Nope.

NOOOOOOO!!!!!! SenWarren senduckworth

You have to be fucking kidding me

I JUST started a religion today, as it happens, and as the High Priest my salary is pretty high.

WTF!?!?

DFire45 Ghouls....

WTF?!

TaxReligion

TaxTheChurches

Who’s first in line? Joel Osteen? Cannot image that taxpayers would be paying to keep the lights on for MAGA churches, and yet, you know it’s coming.

They don’t pay taxes

What 😡😡😡😡

Oh my god. Every single goddamn day is another tweet, post, article on how tRUMP is MakingChangesToAmerica that OnlyBenefittRUMPSCroniesAndCrazyReligions . While UsHardworkingLeftOverAmericans who are NotInTheirCircleOfSin WeWillSufferHorribly VoteOutALLGOP VoteOUTtRUMP

We must also prosecute to the fullest extent those ‘of the church’ who(have)engage(d) in statutory acts. What are we waiting for?

Socialism is okay if it's for Republicans.

TaxTheChurches

This should never be allowed

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Then they need to pay taxes. This is BS

I was feeling a little guilty about taking the 1200. Now I am not

No. No. No. Why are gov employees just doing whatever the WH & Donald says even it's against the constitution. I, and many Americans are 100% tired of this sh*t.

Insane.

So glad I’ve been donating to the ACLU.

This is totally FUCKED!!!!!!!

brahmresnik Thats bullshit

Oh HELLL NO!!!

but my company is taking my last gasps

There’s a special place in hell...

Well this is total bullshit.

Even Scientology?

folks arguing in the comments that churches are businesses... what are they selling then? Jesus? Prayer? In my church those were free, but I left long ago so maybe it’s changed.

Did the churches start paying taxes and I missed it? Otherwise, they aren't entitled to tax $$$$.

Yeah? I'm the head priest of my own religion. (I'm actually sincere about that.) We Zapdubians are pleased to know that the American Empire has finally seen the great truth. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

SeparationOfChurchAndState

Shouldn't happen unless they agree to pay taxes going forward.

Yes of course, clever way to pay money launderers with our tax funds.

Not hard to guess WHICH churches will get money and which churches will get none... and probably be told their terrorist cells. God bless America.

Nope that’s illegal

It will be challenged and should easily be won in court. Though with the partisan court anything is possible. Given the battle, this is merely fodder for Trump to incite his base and pull back some leaving because of his ineptitude.

No! Churches don’t pay taxes. They have plenty of money. If they need money they can sell off their assets like property, cars, jewelry, clothing, homes.

WHAT THE FUCK

FUCK. THIS.

Tax Churches

Absolutely NOT!

Then I assume they’ll be paying taxes starting 2020.

The US is not a nation of people with a single culture, a single religion, a single ethnicity, nor any single belief. The Death of the great American experiment

Does this include *all* religions and denominations?

ABSOLUTELY NOT! Omg I can't take anymore! I'm going to burst I swear! Ugggghhhhh!

Yet ESSENTIAL businesses...like ones that feed us? They’re having a hellish time trying to get funding Are we going to pray food into our stomachs

Zero taxes : Cruise lines, Churches , Pastors, Amazon, Amazon CEO, Apple, Kushner666, Ivanka, Trump Resorts All getting stimulus paid for by the American ppl who sent got shit, begging this very government for relief stimulus. Whatever this is, let get on with it.

Congress needs to stop this now!

Good

WTF!!! This is messed up!!

Nothing like votes.

Uh, MY money? No. California, time for a tax strike. GavinNewsom AGBecerra

Unacceptable!

So I guess only priests take a vow of poverty?

More science, less religion!

Say what?

No, no, no.

Nope! They don't pay taxes, they don't get this help.

BanReligion

Ontop of being grossly unconstitutional, no company or organization that doesn't pay in (see cruise lines) should ever pay out. Like the late great George Carlin said ...

Oh hell no. Nope.

MikePerryavatar Fuck that. TaxChurches

Are you fucking kidding me? No way! They should not get a cent. They don't pay taxes

No. Churches are massive corporations and they should not be supported by tax dollars.

WTF! They don’t pay taxes. They do not deserve any help. No religious institution does!

WTF

Will never make it through the courts, not even scotus would allow this even though it’s packed with republicans

Lol nobody in the USA actually believes in the constitution. It’s hilarious.

FUCK THAT SHIT

This is wrong on so many levels. taxthechurches

This is so infuriating.

NO thank you.

Then tax the holy hell out of them! You know the money would only going to go to those megachurches that worship Trump, the golden calf.

Well, that's unconstitutional. If the church needs assistance, they can take a collection from the congregation. God will provide no? When the church takes money from the state, they're compromised. They are reliant on the state for their survival. Madison would say NO!

This is bullshit!!!

Are you kidding? UNCONSTITUTIONAL and UNAMERICAN. This must NOT be allowed to happen. Ever.

SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE PERIOD!

Oh. My. Freaking. LORD. Make this madness stop, or stop with the tax-exempt status. Churches can't have both. Well, apparently in trump's world they can.

Whhhaaat

fucking crazy

What happened to this?

Absolutely not! He just wants to keep his pathetic Bible trumpers

Well I know what I'm doing later. My reps, senators and a few other people will be hearing from me.

Not my taxes. Time for the church to start selling property? Yup!

Oh hell no!

it's simply illegal.

oh dear! separation of church and state is important!

Why? They have enough money

Nope. Not ok. Do not approve. If this happens, then they should be taxed.

JFC

Churches really go above and beyond just to get their money. Wow. Imagine how tired we are.

How about all of those billionaire snake oil salesman televangelist get a charity together and help pay the salaries. They have more than enough to share.

Can this be contested in the courts?

Maybe their invisible sky daddy should help them instead.

norsenorn If Dems try to fight this, they will be painted as godless atheists.

Ok then. Let's all start a church, make every working-class citizen in America a pastor, and their salary is $2000/mo + money for utility bills. Our religion is the US constitution.

iamjohnoliver SethMacFarlane America is in bed with evangelicals

This is so messed up. Churches are social and political organizations anyway, and shouldn't receive a bailout. oh, and also separation of church and state.

If they get a bailout doesn't that make them a business therefore they need to pay taxes

Well the government shut them down, too (with extra-disturbing determination).

marty_lederman

Is that why suicide is a new christian value? Pastors think more of their income than people's health.

Chased that story with a tall glass of NOPE.

Does this apply to mosques and synagogue too? If not it seems like a dangerous precedent

Time to start burning down churches.

This violation of the constitution is in no way acceptable. These lazy work-averse pastors can go get themselves a real job if they are hurting that bad for money. When are we going to start standing up to Christian Supremacy in this country? When?

Churches must pay taxes!!!!!!

Great...the Commander In Chief will now dictate how churches operate. Who’s responsible for the oversight of the 2 trillion economic relief legislative funds? Who audits the $350 billion for faith based organizational losses? Did this just ramp up future church audits?

This is fine. However, shouldn’t we make churches contribute to unemployment insurance for their Pastors and staff? Getting laid off from a church job currently means going broke.

To me, it's the same thing as giving benefits to undocumented workers. Remove the churches non exempt tax status because many have become dens of thieves!

Isn't this the same as giving benefits yo undocumented workers?

I hope they meant churches, synagogues, mosques. The US directly paying only Christian churches is the craziest thing I've heard yet. Separation of church and state, anyone?

TrumpIsALoser TrumpIsA_DANGER_ToAmerica

No more separation of church and state. I’m sure we’ll hear more from the National faith advisor(s).

Church of Satan needs to apply for some of those funds.

Then they should pay taxes too

That sounds wonderful. Isn’t that what unemployment insurance is for? Cause after this I am sure everyone going to call their the house a house of worship.

This crosses the line.

Past time to tax them like a business which they are.

What the ...?!?!😡

Cool so 2020 tax strike then?

You’re not kidding 🦠Damn

Noooo!

If this to happen, how about Mosques & Synagogues...? They are also houses of worship! Or is it just another way for Trump to boost his election bid?

Paging satanic_temple_

Wtf

While factually accurate, I would point out that many non- profits (like NPR) are employers who provide vital services. The fact that they might be faith based ought not disqualify them from this program. Many churches will play key roles in communities getting thru the pandemic

Satan needs a new 🛩 too

Personally, I'll give this a pass. These are extreme times and I dont want to see churches, synagogues, or mosques go under. However, I have a bad feeling conservatives, once again, will have no problem exploiting this down the road.

Wait, what? It’s Gods will if they can’t afford to operate.

Wtf, let their parishioners pay them.

Oh no the fuck they better not.

Omg

charlesgoyette I'm opposed - - this is not maintaining a separation between church and state. So-called religious leaders endorse candidates, want to be political they should lose their tax-free status. No money for churches. This is another attempt by Rs to dismantle the Constitution.

kochkills

I just can’t anymore with this administration.

They should be paying taxes. Does it say anything in there about mosques and Muslim clerics?

Are you freaking kidding me! Time to tax the churches at the highest rate possible.

Uhhhhhhhhh......

charlesgoyette Tax the churches.

And they will then pay taxes?

1. NO, NO, NO. If you don't pay taxes, you don't get to reap the benefits taxpayers should receive. 2. Joel Osteen does not require support. CINO christianinnameonly 3. If this honest-to-Mike happens (it shouldn't), it better apply to imams, rabbis & other clergy as well.

Wtf

Wait. WHAT?

No, no, no.

Guess they'll have to start paying taxes, right?

I hope the admin knows if one church/religion is eligible all churches/religions are.

Churches should pay taxes....just saying

charlesgoyette This has to stop.

Politidope Make them sell their mansions and planes. 🤨

Will this rule provide money for non Christian churches as well? I’d like to see the Jewish and Muslim denominations get some money too.

that's fucked

Do they look like they are hurting?

No, no, no, no ..... NO ....

This seems utterly foolish.

Now what now? How about hell no. How about instead parishioners, believers, attendees support their local place of worship, and tax dollars get spent on upkeep and maintaining our nation? Kinda the way the constitution laid it all out! shenanigans first_amendment

Oooh maybe they can buy the Vatican another gold chalice!!

Time to tax the churches.

Unacceptable

Are we taxing churches then?

Church is a MentallInnessClub... FuckThem

NO NO NO

Maybe if they spent less money on Pornhub and Grindr they wouldn't be in this predicament. Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps like the rest of us do.

Sounds great...lets call it the Church of Epstein Child Abuse relief bill

This is to keep Trump’s MAGA white evangelical base in his back pocket in November.

No!!!

What in the holy hell...?

If you're not first covering the wages of part-time and non salaried employees, then this is another kick in the face for those people. Religious institutions take money, claim but the only way to salvation is money, and now this complete bullshit. Never again, Jesus. Never again

That spinning sound you hear are James Madison and Thomas Jefferson rolling in their graves.

Scoutmom17 Any cap on “salaries “ and luxury jets and limousines and mansions? Asking for a friend with a mega church

RustyBertrand WHAT?

Can't wait to see when the Church Of Satan and the Church of Wicca apply for assistance. Oh yeah, how about the mosques and Hindu temples?

How else would one bribe the pious?

They're already getting stimulus checks like everyone else. Besides they don't pay taxes so why get taxpayers' money? The only exception is for community charity projects. But pastors salaries, absolutely not.

anyone having trouble gettingn$ through SBA, get yourself a minister by mail doc, start a “salvation through ______filll in the blank, church) and get your $$ that way. get a salary, utility bills, rent?, in the process organize a local progressive political group,feed poor

Sorry, but pastors can go get a supplemental job like the rest of us. They can get their 1200 dollars, but should not get their salaries!

Everyone in this thread: “I hate churches and I want them to have a say in politics!!”

TAX. THE. CHURCHES.

Just like the cruise industry, if they do not pay taxes, they do not deserve our support.

I want all people to be able to work, but what about Muslim Imams?

Oh hell NO! Make them pay frikkin taxes! Taking away SNAP benefits for poor families and giving money directly to churches! WTAF

Will this include mosques, synagogues and all major religions?

No. They have plenty of money.

No way should any church get money from the federal government. I am a faithful church-goer, but tax exemption means no money for churches.

Utility bills? Salaries? Why do churches need water/electricity if nobody is supposed to be there? As for pastor salaries, let them collect unemployment just like everyone else.

Jesus christ

HOW? WOULD THAT NOT REQUIRE CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. IF IG IDEA DOESN'T WORK, THERE MUST BE ANOTHER WORKAROUND.

Where do the local imams get in line for mosque support?

So they'll be taxed now?

Which denominations? Catholic Parishes are well heeled enough to survive this pandemic, most parish schools are closed so overhead would be down, and most have financial trusts to fall back on.

They don't pay taxes! US citizensvwho don't pay taxes are excluded as are immigrants who DO pay taxes. They want a bailout, they pay taxes. They also have the option to work from home or collect unemployment just like everyone else. No special treatment for churches... period0!

They don't pay taxes! US citizens who don't pay taxes are excluded as are immigrants who DO pay taxes. They want a bailout, they pay taxes. They also have the option to work from home or collect unemployment just like everyone else. No special treatment for churches... period0!

Nope they don't pay taxes, they can try praying their bills away.

Fuck that!

This is dangerous. State sponsored religion and churches NO. Absolutely. Taxpayer money should NOT be going to churches. What the absolute fuck.

So let me get this straight: undocumented immigrants pay federal taxes, yet see no benefit, and churches pay NO taxes, but will?

Oh hell no. And a big no to taxing them either, otherwise they would get a say in things.

Monstrous.

Hell no!!!!

Shambolic

Buying votes, repaying blind faith, and soliciting election endorsements.

pay them for essential services like housing the homeless and soup kitchens, not for fairy tales.

Churches are providing food for people right now. Churches are an important lifeline, a source of inspiration. They need financial support too.

This shouldn’t be happening in this country. It’s a terrible idea to prop up these people. They’re not essential to our existence.

The GOP is on life support.

⁉️ 😡

Also what about essential workers' bills and salaries (or a yearly equivalent of their hourly +tips)? The Pastors of America get paid sick leave, but not americans forced to go out?

This is buying votes at its finest. Using our taxpayer dollars to prop up institutions that pay no taxes. Make it stop.

You’ve got to be kidding

Just tax them and they can tell the congregation that god raised tithing to cover their taxes

If one fucking cent goes to Joel Olsteen or other megachurch millionaire moguls America should be absolutely pissed, regardless of their personal religion or lack thereof. These quacks offer little in exchange for lining their pockets.

They must pay taxes

First consideration has to go to taxpayers. I have issues with government taxing religion. I firmly believe in the separation of church and state. Not only from the argument of religion getting their claws into government, but government getting their claws into religion.

NO.

Unconstitutional

That's fckd up

No. Please God no. Yes, I get the irony.

How about...no?

pay their salaries and utilities? or to pay off lawsuits?

good now churches can finally pay taxes

No different than Cruise Lines. Pay no taxes? Get no bailout!

Nope, going to Scotus

TAX THE CHURCHES

Why does it seem every time there is a national tragedy organized religion exploits it to move us one step closer to theocracy?

The United States has become a complete parody of itself. There is no freedom of religion. There is freedom of making a business out of religion.

NO

Wtf?

Uhm...hell no!

ACLU This ain't right. If they are TAX-EXEMPT, they should not get ANY of my tax dollars!!! You CANNOT have it BOTH ways!!!

Just imagine what things will be like after 4 more years of this when people stay home in November because “their guy” did not get the nod again. Good luck America if we stay divided.

That’s....not correct. Establishment of state religion you constitutional illiterates

Then they can tell them to stay home too

Let those charlatan MEGACHURCH leaders give up their multibillion dollar life styles to start supporting their ignorant sheep! SeparationOfChurchAndState

Churches are now big businesses and Trump is buying off voters without regard to the Constitution.

Maybe parishioners and other supporters should consider continued support to their church. After all, you don't stop believing because you cannot attend a church function.

realDonaldTrump Will money be given to all religions or only Christians?

ARE YOU FUCKIN' KIDDING ME?

I’m a bi vocational preacher and I don’t need the government to pay my salary, not now not ever . I pay taxes and 15.3% to SSI as a “self employed” preacher. Members pay their taxes. The money we take in helps us provide for the community and orphanage around the world

If a church or religious organization takes it they MUST be taxed

Wtf

Pay taxes first.

Not if they remain open, putting people at risk. If they pack the house on Sunday, that’s business as usual. There is no reason for the tax payers to pay their salaries if their churches are still open. Show a loss on donations and tithings first, then cry poor me

Why the focus on churches? If you bothered to read the article it’s available to all faith based non-for-4-profit organizations but yeah single out churches and pastors for the regular round of Twitter bashing.

Um, no. What happened to “God will provide?” Practice what you preach.

Once they pay back taxes, sure.

Cuomosexual

Gotta keep his base happy!

Could?

What? Tax free and getting government money. Isn’t this what republicans hate - money for not working?

They must also pay taxes.

It's disgusting that Republicans are going to use my tax dollars to pay for con artists pushers, uh, I mean 'pastors,' of a dangerous Iron Age mythology that promotes bigotry against women, LGBTQ folks, and everyone who doesn't believe in their religion.

So this is acknowledging that they are businesses. Then make them pay taxes.

WTF?

to be fair, my pastor's Escalade is 2 yrs old

Then all denominations should be included as well as ALL religions. It better not be just Christian churches. Oh, and since we are going to give them our money I say we start taxing them on it!

What the hell has happened to this great country?

No no no no no no. They dont pay taxes! Asv WTF!?

The gop is the government arm of the christofascist movement so the only shock here is that the press is reporting on it.

I don't think this is constitutional or a good idea in general. Pastors should seek unemployment relief if necessary and congregations should assume financial responsibility for their utility bills.

How is it an establishment of religion if no religion is preferred?

Time for pay taxes

If you do that, you will prove and set a precedence that their is no religious basis to these organizations: they are merely in the entertainment business. More campaigning by realDonaldTrump at our expense. ALL FRAUDS!

So is that just churches, or anyone that produces fan fiction?

WTF

Wtf

I'm fine with churches receiving a tax payer bailout, if they start paying into taxes, stop using donations to build MEGA CHURCHES (especially in poor neighborhoods), and aren't using the pulpit for politics. Church is for JesusChrist

2020 and we are being forced to pay people to wave their arms around and pretend to talk to spirits.

I disagree with this.

This is disgusting.

With this politicized right-leaning Supreme Court, the outcome of a court case isn't in doubt.

Immigrants who do pay taxes? No aid. Churches who don’t? Here ya go!

Ridiculous, the pastors will get stimulus checks just like the rest of us.

To whom it may concern: When you think - catalytic destruction - you think A-BOMB -MASS EARTHQUAKES & NOT COVID19 , a PROCESS & that is EXACTLY what it is - GOG & MAGOG the Asian ppl are both- walled off by Alexander the great - the BIBLE SPEAKS PLAINLY of this Jentezen

This must be challenged! My tax money must never support deluded fools.

What?

But they don’t pay taxes.

That’s awesome!

Religious socialism! Republican’s welfare state! Shouldn’t this money go to oppressed CEOs who might miss out on their annual bonus? The horror. The horror. 😱😱😱😨. There ought to be drug testing before any money is handed out.

Then they should start paying taxes.

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