Why you'll never meet a white supremacist who cares about climate change | Rebecca Solnit

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Behind the urgency of climate action is the understanding that everything is connected; behind white supremacy is an ideology of separation

As the news of the Christchurch mosque massacre broke and I scoured the news, I came across a map showing that the Friday morning climate strike in Christchurch was close to the bloodbath. I felt terrible for the young people who showed up with hope and idealism, wondered whether the killer or killers chose this particular day to undermine the impact of this global climate action. It was a shocking pairing and also a perfectly coherent one, a clash of opposing ideologies. .

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Climate change is 'mysticism without mystification'? What is that supposed to mean? No, climate change is a set of predicted and observed trends in global systems ecology. That's it.

Let's admit the devil's worth: they actually care a lot. They think long term, and many go back to old european pagan traditions, that held nature as divine and to be respected

Get a proper job. Have you no pride.

therefore implying those who don't care about climate change are thus white supremacists, right? i'm just letting you know I know what you're actually trying to do with shit like this.

I blame the bible, specifically 2 Corinthians 6:17.

This is very incorrect. You guys just posted an article about eco-fascism. Which one is correct? ecofash

Firstly, white supremacists literally dont exist anymore. Even the most far right are not actually white supremacists. Secondly didnt you hear about the NZ shooter calling himself an eco fascist?

Yeah, I've noticed that too.

Most fascists are environmentalists. They want to preserve their people and homeland. Hitler was that way loved nature and animals.

OMG the Guardian and friends are blaming white supremacists now for not caring about climate change, I worry, could the Guardian and friends being a little misguided in the fact that they are blaming the here and now for it all instead of the past and anyone THEY find distasteful

Thought-provoking. However, while you may not meet a white supremacist who cares about climate change, I know plenty of white climate change activists that are blinded about racial justice. I think this is more about party lines ... Also: Hitler was a vegetarian and loved nature.

With the oceans rising, soon I’ll have a beach front property. Can’t come quick enough

Eco-fascists? 'Securing the ecosystem in plants and humans'?

The left centre have perhaps always been more concerned about showing working class credentials of material moderation and the right have been proud of material prosperity and aspiration. The latter can be averse to moderating for the sake of climate which means denial for some.

Still doesn't make every one who disproves climate change a white supremacist. There is also deviancy among scientists, as with religion. Christ was a deviant.

Bien doi khi hau va khac tinh cua no chinh la toi. Va cac ban se hung chiu hau qua tu no neu toi van con bi kem kep.

This thing I don't like is linked to this other thing I don't like. Dangerous tribalism basically, which is a key reason white supremacy and climate change denialism are such big problems

That’s a bit of a stretch. Like the Kakapo a rare sighting. Next time Guardian take a picture!!

The guardian have been at the soy beans again.

I did once meet a white supremacists who cared about climate change. Please change your headline to a less absolutist one, this is borderline clickbait. It erodes the Institution that is The Guardian. With all due respect, this is not BuzzFeed, Rebecca!

What a load of nonsense, the issue here is the expectation that whoever reads your article is stupid.... if anything “white supremacists”, the “racially aware”, are obsessed with this, climate change means famine, refugees, the whole issue is, we want to keep our land our land...

You could also call these conservative vs liberal issues. Not hiring people based on how they answer, however, is what we call bias/bigotry.

What a gross over generalisation... and their ideology is horrendous... any more spurious arguments that you want to bring to the table?

Sweet is that all it takes? I care about climate change. Whew, that's a load off my mind. Now where can I start to have civil discussions now that I've proven I'm not a WS?

What kind of garbage is this? Journalists have become delusional fantasy writers

Well, actually:

Do not know any white supremacists, do they walk around with white hoods all day ? I don't think there are many out there despite what you publish. Yes the climate is changing, always has always will.

Mainly because they are low IQ....

Actually one of the big arguments they use is that bringing people from the developing world into developed western world means that their carbon footprint and consumption levels climb dramatically.

And today's randomly generated Guardian headline is... * rolls tombola *...

Ah. The old identity politics again of divide and conquer with silly names. So if you don't agree you're a 'white supremacist'. Seems if you do believe in climate change, you believe in myths and conspiracy theories of, errmm, 'white supremacists'.....the left is a joke. lol

I've never met one full stop.

You've had to spend quite some time in the echo chamber to believe this enough to write it.

There aren't many white supremacists despite what you might attempt to make your readers think. So I'm unlikely to meet one let alone one who disagrees with the Guardian on climate change.

What a load of crap. Stop labeling, categorizing, and dividing PEOPLE!

Fake News: the New Zeland terrorist was a crazy white supremacist and also concerned about climate change. It was in his bullshit manifesto.

Do you really pay people to write this shit?

Throw absolutely every outrage you could possibly have and call being against it white supremacy. That guy who took the last sausage roll in Gregg's before I could, white supremacist.

You’ll never meet a tranny white nationalist either. Trying to somehow suggest you’re not on the right side of a debate because of it is toddler moronic logic.

This is an excellent article, please read!

The front page of the shooter's manifesto listed environmentalism as one of his 'principles'. In the article there is a convenient elision of libertarian, Koch-funded right-wing ideology, and that of modern White supremacists and neo-Nazis. They're not the same.

In March up to last weeks attack there had been 96 terrorist attacks of which 84 were Islamic and only 2 were carried out in the West. One was in a French prison where a Jihadi and his wife started attacking guards and the other in NZ.

Climate change extremists already showed their true colors. They're starting to admit that even though we may have no control over climate change, it's a vehicle for redistributing wealth around the world.

The NZ shooter is a self described eco-fascist. He and a bunch of this particular neo-nazi subculture really really care about the environment. What gives?

....but you may see them at Sunday mass.

Another randomly-generated Guardian article.

Wow the flawed logic here is almost overwhelming.

Because they’re not very bright

why you'll never meet someone who cares about climate change protesting for democracy in 3rd world countries as if it was part of the same problem

You mean, no more white supremacist, no more climate change ?

The front page of your terrorist manifesto said environmentalists. To of front page

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