Surrendering land is not the same as defeat – if a stronger Ukraine emerges from the ruins | Neal Ascherson

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At the Victory Day parade in Moscow, Putin will doubtless claim Russian dominance. But what would victory now look like for Zelenskiy?

Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy at a joint press conference with UN secretary-general António Guterres in Kyiv on 28 April, 2022.Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy at a joint press conference with UN secretary-general António Guterres in Kyiv on 28 April, 2022.. So here is a flash from that past.

 

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Really? Then England must immediately give up any claim on Northern Ireland.

Ukraine should fight to the very last, this land is all they have! Continue to fight for freedom and democracy!

It's not about some land it's about a lot of it and a lot of oil. More than 1cm is too much.

Neal Ascherson is a Kremlin asset

How kind of Neal Ascherson to blithely suggest that Ukraine barter away its territory to a war criminal and murderous despot.🙄

Now you're just being ridiculous

I believe you will hand over the entire country.

Hurry up and surrender 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

This essay is betraying the fight of Ukrainian people.

Phase 2 of preparing masses for the inevitable reality check. 'You will loose 1/3rd of your country, becoming landlocked, all the natural resources lost in East becoming a runt of a state, but you know what it will emerge stronger'

The Guardian is still siding with Putin then.

If the Ukraine had decided to stay neutral and not be wooed into NATO by the US there would have been no surrendering of land.

Yes Neal Putin has really lost.

In any case, this land will be strong, but without Nazism and without Zelensky.

Comedian land, not heroic land!!

What good will it bring to Ukrainian people if they won't have lands to call their own?

It's easy to say that from the comfort of your own safe (still standing) home, you would be writing something different if the land you were surrendering was your own

It is of course totally fucking defeat and it's revolting we're being greased up for yet again for another western capitulation to the forces of intolerance and lazy hatred that are constantly creeping into all of our lives.

if the Ukrainians are indeed willing to lose territory then so be it - journalist in the West are free to speculate what's best for them

better get that message fast forwarded RT_com

It's the bodies being lost that is truly sad

Ok so which part of Scotland, Neal, would you be willing to give up so that a genocidal maniac leaves you alone?

How about preventing the Second World War by surrendering a slice of GB to Hitler. What you fail to grasp is that surrendering a piece of land sets the table for another invasion - of course we all fear a nuclear war but this is not the time for appeasement!

LOL first Zelensky is spotting that every inch will be taken back. Now its we're gonna lose stuff but we'll be stronger for it 🤦

Yes it is

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