Pubs are overrated, boring and revolve around men. I’ve been secretly dreading this day for weeks

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You've probably heard by now that, as of 6am today, pubs are open again in England. In fact, maybe you're reading this in the pub (or in the socially distanced queue for a pint?) It's not just pubs

But aside from the fact that too many pubs are now basically just sticky student bars , going to the pub isn't, by any stretch, an inclusive social activity.

 

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Boris likes a drink doesn't he?!!

Fortunately, no one cares about you, dear 'journalist'

Stay away then.

She says she hates pubs because six or seven people squash around a four person table ,they then spend more on a round of drinks than she would spend on a bottle of wine. This is nothing more than journalistic snobbery.

Pubs are great! They are a traditional institution. I do some of my best reading in pubs, and have had some of my most scintillating conversations in them. Pubs are great social levellers. And some of them are fine old buildings too that have kept their character. Love pubs.

when did the the muppets start drinking pints?

The beauty of living in a democracy is you have choices. I choose not to read the clunge rag you call a paper.

The Independent. Wank as ever.

Why does Tim look like Maggie thatcher in drag 🤔

Read the article & I'd like 2 minut of my life back please. It's shocking. Writer has problems with pubs because adverts for beer are aimed at men, pubs were sexist in the 1970s, people who don't like drinking don't like them, & she can't get served at the bar first. Pathetic.

I’m not really a drinker and don’t particularly like pubs so l don’t go to the pub.

An article written by someone who’s never been to a proper pub. I don’t ask you to find my pub... fuck off

White wine for the lady please.

Pubs are great and every pub's death is a tragedy.

Who owns you?

Boris shares a refreshing drink with Margaret Thatcher after the Conservative Party conference back in the day😆

Hehe, thinking the same. We should just sit back and watch the working classes wipe themselves out with beer and low immune systems. It's the start of our EU revolution.

And “ people who can’t fathom a world without £15 cocktails”. This is pathetic drivel. I knew the Independent was bad - but this?

Rubbish , the only place men can be men where we can speak our minds, without having to worry about offending some PC leftie.

Hair salons are overrated and revolve around women. I’ve been openly writing about this for some bent newspaper for months!

Great place to get away from all the woke middle class wankers who now make up Labour and the left though. No doubt including yourself. No wonder they'll be packed.🤣

Great article. I gave up drinking on 28 October 2017, don't miss it, but you're right about the pressure to drink. People look down at me when I tell them, it's as if I've become a second class citizen. Quite amazing. alcoholfree

I’ll save you the bother of reading. It’s Some boring ,man hating bird moaning about pubs and the people that frequent them. She’s been dreading this day for weeks apparently, the thought of men being happy really does seem to bother her.

The state of you 😂

Sneering upper class journalism strikes again. The majority of people aren’t with you, “1 in 5 feel left out”, well 4 out of 5 disagree with you.

Aw, is it tantrum time again?

Oh my god, this can’t be serious... 🙄 If you’re “dreading” pubs opening “for weeks” because you don’t like them and they “revolve around men” then you really do have a sad, over comfortable, soft life with nothing else to worry about. Women enjoy pubs just as much as men btw.

Jesus wept, the Independent has turned into The Grauniad! guardian

The aggressive, insulting (mostly male) comments kinda prove your argument....

i cant tell whos haircut is more worse.

ScumMedia

So you don’t want to go and you don’t want others to go either? Piddle off scank

Your opinion and you are welcome to it. I humbly disagree. I love pubs.

The pub experience is what you make it. Maybe you should choose better ones. Take a book, people watch...

Alas you'll never know the joy that blokes have down the pub, sinking a few pints and talking bollocks.

My wife enjoyed the pub tonight. Saved her cooking.

Remember when the Independent was financially viable ?

Stay at home and scream 'wear a mask' into a glass of wine instead then.

I’ve never seen so much self-righteousness in one article... bore off, utter mood hoover. 💤💤💤

Simple . Stay in the hoose

'Pubs are overrated, boring and revolve around men.' Okay...don't go to one then?

Probably time to get your vagina trimmed then love .....

I don’t enjoy them. I don’t visit them. Those that do enjoy them visit them. Seems to work for me.

You'd have more fun if you removed the sand from your mangina

Stay home & shut up then.

What's with the hair? Seriously. Is that a thing these days, politicians and their goofy friends not combing their hair or get a decent haircut? combfused

wagjuer Well, actually reading this peace taught me much about pubs. Thanks for that! And: I still like pubs very much. Meeting men there? Wonderful. Very often they are very much more relaxed about this gender topic...

Has anyone been to The George in Croydon, always full of old men. Two streets away a Lloyds No 1 full of young people.

Well don’t go then simples....!

How much damage to this country have the ideals of those two kuntz caused? But still, a cheap pint, eh !! PubsOpening

Miserable! its okay no one wants you in there 😂

Is the beer static electric or is that just their hair

If a man wrote that about not going to a nail salon he’d be called sexist and forced to apologise....

And infinitely better without the likes of you.

I don’t drink Alcohol so i don’t need Pubs

Your sexist.

Look at those pair of pricks

😂😂😂

In fairness, I would not want women or men in a pub where those two are behind the bar. 😬

'Pubs are overrated, boring and revolve around men' sure they do... boozing drunks SuperSpreaderSaturday pubs

I don’t go to a pub that often but when I do it’s with friends to catch up on what’s going on in their lives.

You must be fun at parties.

You're not being forced to go lol

Tough titties to you then.

Well don't go then

So now pubs are sexist? Bloody communist

What a sad, miserable so and so. Dreadful, pointless article. Another serial whinger

Two of a kind bumptious ,loud arrogant and selfish

Miserable cow.

Dear me...this article... 💤

It's not compulsory to go to the pub

Dreading this day 🙄

Revole around men 🙄

Then don't fucking go to any. Make everyone happy.

Living in the wrong city.

I stało się 🙂

Couple of ugly mugs

I've literally had a man lift a snooker cue out of my hands in a pub to show me how to 'hold it properly'. ---- Because you were holding it wrong. I bet your game improved after. I hope you thanked him.

Imagine being in a pub with those two fuckwits.

That is quite possibly the wokest headline I’ve read all year.

Lmao you've been pushing snobby anti pub articles already today. Chill out.

they named this pub after you.

There's always one 🙄🤣

1. You’re a woman. 2. What a pointless article. 3. If your friends can’t accept you don’t drink they aren’t worth having. I don’t drink and my friends are perfectly happy and don’t ask questions.

First day back in the pub today and its great... Fck you fembots 👌🏻😂

They revolve around men? That is incredibly sexist for both women and men. What complete cunt wrote this article? They've gone so woke they ended up being offensive to both sexes.

There is always someone who has to moan about something.

written by a woman.

Then go back to playing with your train set

Perhaps it is you who is overrated and boring? I am assuming you don’t revolve around men.

I think hairdressers charge ridiculous prices, revolve around women and are boring. So I don’t go. If I had been to public school and become a journo, could I have made a living writing pointless and banal shite? And would the Indy have published them?

That is an awful, awful article

mariapeo CaoimheSport Sinead_ONeill I’m sure none of you would agree with this 🤔🤔 even if the accompanying photo is of an idiot and his long lost older brother 😂

Don’t go then.

Senior citizen knitting classes are overrated, boring and revolve around older ladies. Subsequently I don't attend them. Not that difficult for you is it?

You ain't no bloke. Go bugger yourself.

Gosh you sound a mare to be out with..🙄😲😲🙄🤣🤣...

Other cuts BoycottWetherspoons

I know love - I feel the same about coffee shops

EstyGrindon care to comment?

What a sad and pathetic life you must lead 😂

This article would have been better if it had focused on the degree to which British pub culture encourages binge drinking, which isn't hard to argue, rather than the very debateable theory that they are inherently sexist.

These days I would rather be caffeinated than inebriated.

This article is wrong on all levels

What do those two look like 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

‘... At pubs many women feel forced to choose between a sickly sweet tap cider or a much more expensive cocktail, glass of wine...’ is the point I stopped taking this article seriously. And I don’t like these ‘pubs’ either (at least not the ones Joanna seems desperate to go to).

Stfu

many pubs have missed a trick. I lived not far a pub that never made much money, landlords would change like the seasons. Then a woman took over the pub she started selling cakes, after a while I noticed that male and female customers averaged 50/50, wine sales increased.

Pub chains have 'feminized' it all in recent years: from bright-coloured drinks to soft furnishings, letting kids in, no spitting rules to clean toilets and even Lewis bloody Capaldi. What more do you want?

They look like they just licked an electric socket.

JoannaRTaylor No requirement to love pubs. (Or drink) But you need to meet the brilliant beer-loving women Dealatis BeerBeauty ! - beer is not just for blokes! 😉

Nice to see a Mother & Son out for a drink.

I’m not sure you are visiting the right places 🤔 Sure there are some pubs I immediately feel unwelcome but for every one of those there are ten more where all are welcome... 🍷🍺🥤 enjoy 😊

Who ever wrote this should automatically receive a life ban from all pubs

Superb this.

However wrote this garbage clearly hasn't been to a single pub.

So don't go 🤷‍♂️

I had no idea how sexist pubs were! smashthepatriarchy

The guy in blue, looks like he stuck his finger into a light socket.

I have a secret for you, JoannaRTaylor: If you do not like pubs, you do not have to go to one. That is the beauty of freedom and liberty (which you Lefties always hate).

Have a whinge.

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