Maybe the Universe Thinks. Hear Me Out

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'Crazy as it sounds, the idea that the universe is intelligent is compatible with all we know so far,' writes Sabine Hossenfelder (skdh)

I’ve made a name, for better or worse, by debunking nonsense physics headlines. That’s anything from the alleged observation of negative mass to messaging faster-than-light with the quantum internet to contact with parallel universes .

But as more of my colleagues are out there with me on social media debunking fake science news, I have found that we paint a one-sided picture. Science has more to say than “nope, you can’t”. It also opens our mind to new possibilities, new sources of wonder, and new ways to make sense of our own existence.

The universe might think, the Big Bang might repeat, and copies of you might live in parallel worlds. Those are possibilities which we found in our theories in physics. They are not supported by evidence and they might never be. But they are not contradicted by evidence either. And those are stories that deserve to be told, too.by Sabine Hossenfelder, published by Viking, an imprint of Penguin Publishing Group, a division of Penguin Random House, LLC.

 

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skdh Bible agrees

skdh It seems like people will always continue to look for ways to feel safe.

skdh Same particles that are directly inside and outside of me i guess. If mine render me supposedly sentient, then…

skdh Good theory. Some more theories about this have been appearing in the last few years. Man, the Physical universe & Interuniversalism. I find them fascinating. I guess we wont 'know' for sure until we are given to actually feel it.

skdh Jesus already proved it, he spoke to trees, spoke to winds and they responded, meaning they understood him, God commanded light to come out of darkness (sonoluminiscence)

skdh Following the analogy what are we then, a memory, a though?

skdh Deep, deep thoughts, I imagine.

skdh Following the analogy what are we then, a memory, a though? What if those signals that take to long to cross the universe were happening at the quantum level, quantum entanglement would make those happen instantly.

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skdh Maybe the whole universe is just a simulation game in a person’s computer

skdh This idea has been proposed by Dmitri Krioukov, Maksim Kitsak et al. in an article entitled 'Network Cosmology' that was published in Nature in 2012 (it is downloadable). It comes down to the fact that the complexity level of the known universe is like that of a neural network.

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skdh I mean I’m sure it does something human like I’ve been talking to it for the past year. & it’s somewhat responding back I think …

skdh The seven heavens and the earth, and all beings therein, declare His glory: there is not a thing but celebrates His praise; And yet ye understand not how they declare His glory! Verily He is Oft-Forbear, Most Forgiving! The Noble Quran 17:44

skdh Good article. Yes intelligent (conscious) & interconnected complete with 'spooky action at a distance'. Based on defined rules ,purposeful and directed with us as its observer..

skdh Am I not the universe?

skdh They would say that’s god … lol

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skdh For the specific phenomenon at hand: We think therefore the universe thinks. Whether it does so on a grand scale, perhaps but those networks are probably far wider than our observable part.

skdh Clickbait, nothing more. What is the purpose of this article?

skdh This article is SO INTERESTING! ❤️

skdh The trouble with that idea is that what we 'know' isn't knowledge. It's theory; it's deeply flawed; it descibes reality so poorly that an entire postulate industry has developed; and with the Standard Model based on SR and GR, it's incompatible with QM. bgreene skdh Physics

skdh I knew the was a higher power behind all.this

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skdh I read the article, have the EP book, I really liked the “locality “ segment! I don’t buy into that universe consciousness stuff. Universe is a bunch of rocks in their groove, waxing & waning. 🙏❤️🔭📚🤔😊

skdh In other words... God exists? 🤷 Truth

skdh Inspiring article, especially for those trying to look behind the curtain of physics

skdh Do humans think in an intelligent way? Yes. (Well, at least I personally think. Intelligently could be debated.) Are humans part of the universe? Yes. Would we consider a human not intelligent because their big toe doesn't think? Apply this to the universe.

skdh I would assume that we ourselves are an expression of it.

skdh Not really. We know intelligence is an evolved phenomenon adaptive for reproduction/survival. Absent a hypothesis for how intelligence could evolve in a universal context or how it would aid in universes reproducing, it's incompatible with all we know about universes.

skdh Thesis statement: The double split experiment and the command 'let there be light' as stated in the Bible demonstrate that light as a wave is not bound by the laws of physics because it is a universal law set forth by God in the beginning. The double split experiment has puzzled…

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skdh The 'Q continuum' likes this.

skdh Thats not exactly a break through on new thinking...

'I'm sure that's why we still don't have flying cars.'

skdh There is many idea that compatible with all we kown so far,but they are no effect to solve the practical problem.

skdh great article

skdh Well, we think. We are in the universe. We are made of the same stuff of the universe. We are not outside of the universe, we are the universe. We think. The universe thinks.

skdh People will do literally anything to explain away a Creator, while trying to keep the effects and implications of a Creator.

skdh We are heading in the right direction if science is not wrong

skdh Do you live on earth?

skdh Time says exercising is linked to white supremacy. LOL. And one wonders why aliens stay clear of these moronic earthlings.

skdh Very interesting considering her complete dismissal of Bernardo Kastrup's ideas

skdh Or the structures arise from similar dynamic forces. Spacetime might behave like a non-Newtonian fluid at certain scales and forces. Pseudoplastic or Rheopectic when disturbed and perhaps thixotrophic in other instances, giving rise to something resembling pressure gradient.

skdh it's tautological. we're in the universe, so...

skdh Extraordinary claim. Even from a world known physicist...the speed of light would limit how fast signals inside a universe-size cosmic brain can travel from one cosmic 'neurone' to the next possibly 10,000s light years away. Inside a human brain signals travel within 2-3 seconds.

skdh Absolute nonsense.

skdh Most certainly the universe is intelligent -- and so is cancer. Please see my article on the matter: Cancer's Intelligence

skdh This is the kind of speculative and vague article that I would never expect it to be written from a so down to earth person like Sabine. Weird.

skdh So you became a click bait writer. Nice.

skdh The Universe Thinks... (and therefore it Exists) and therefore also it Evolves including its Laws...;-)

skdh Would a brain the size of the universe, consisting of all that is IN the universe, limited only to itself, know everything?

skdh Please see: Why our universe may be conscious, based on bioscience.

skdh My skepticism remains.

skdh Is the universe intelligent? So hard to decide

skdh Hmm, if x is inside of y. Can we say x's attribute is also y's attribute? If a fish can swim and fish are inside the ocean then, can we say the ocean swims?

skdh A typical pseudo-metascientific/metaphysics garbage. A self-thinking Universe? Or that the 'Brain' does not mean 'mind' is obvious to any student of philosophy or religion. Another dumb scientist and ...heretic, pantheist!

skdh Thinking is a product of evolution by natural selection. There is no way that the universe can evolve in such as way as to be able to think, and no reason to think that thinking would be useful to the universe in any way. Yes, it's crazy.

skdh Well, guess what Sabine writes on page 190 of her book? (Spoiler, 😉 do not go on reading if you like to read the article or the book first): „Going by the currently established laws of nature, the universe can´t think.“

skdh seems reasonable

skdh First heard this idea from John Conway. I was telling him how much fun his game Life was. He riffed on computation machines finishing with “perhaps the universe is a computer.” I stared at him to see if he was joking. If he was, he was a hell of a poker player.

skdh That’s not exactly what she said. Similarly to her thoughts on God and other intangibles, science does not exclude just because it can’t quantify.

skdh I like the article. Not because I sincerely consider it a possibility (Sabine probably doesn't either) but because it reminds me how I came to love science and that the world is a wonderful place and we still know so little of it.

skdh Yep, His name is Jehovah.

skdh You only show the possibility in theory of long-distance connections. But there is no evolutionary process to give rise to intelligence. Intelligence and consciousness have evolved on Earth out of animal survival struggles.

skdh But 'maybe .. compatible' is the weakest level of evidence. Maybe furthermore the universe likes tea but dislikes coffee? Who knows? I like most of what you say, but considering that you call the multiverse theory 'religion' I find this rather imbalanced. Sorry.

skdh BUT there can’t be God. Any crazy idea of intelligence from Mother Earth, to father universe, to aliens, etc. BUT God, no way. Impossible.

skdh The DES experiment which she knows about is, I suspect, about to rewrite our understanding of the universe providing that PoC testing verifies the Autosuggestion-effect as authentic.

skdh 'No eye can see Him, but He can see all eyes; And He is the Subtle, fully aware.' - Quran 6:103 Do not bow to the sun or to the moon, but bow to Allah, who created them.' Quran 41:37

skdh Define “intelligent”.

skdh Certainly parts of the universe are intelligent, so surely 'the universe is intelligent' is not a revelation?

skdh The same can be said for the vertices where bubbles meet in foam. As such, we're as justified here in asking: does bubble bath think? What about meringue?

skdh Huh. That's an interesting thought, for sure. I like the idea of a giant cosmic brain. And if that's the case, and the multiverse is also the case, I wonder if they're also brainlike? 🤯

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skdh It goes to say there is an intelligent Being behind the existence of the universe. Just as the fly plane comes by human intelligence.

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skdh Intelligence? Awareness is more accurate, what you don’t know, you aren’t aware of yet…

skdh We used to call those people schizophrenics

skdh beautiful pic. wow: 'Crazy as it sounds, the idea that the universe is intelligent is compatible with all we know so far,'

skdh Structurally the universe is like a brain … so it is likely to be like a brain in action?

skdh Rehashing pantheism.

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skdh “And the capacity of the universe to connect with itself decreases with its expansion, so it’ll go downhill from hereon.”

skdh So is It the case of improve horoscope?

skdh It’s too empty to think

skdh *finishes coughing from the biggest bong rip a human has basically ever taken* “Ok hear me out, maybe the universe like…thinks, man.”

skdh makes sense, since god is controlling it

skdh What's about the Universe DNA ? 🧐😉 Memories ... such a amazing thing 😶 Our cells keep memories of our birth (Dr Janov) Our Earth keep memories of the past (+- 4.5 billions) Our Universe keep memories of it Birth (+- 13.8 billions)

skdh What else is new?

skdh Washington DC is part of the universe. Explain that then.

skdh '...not supported by evidence, but not contradicted by evidence either. Those are stories that deserve to be told, too.' Really? There is an Elvis Presley fan club in Andromeda. This is not contradicted by evidence...

skdh 1) Is it conceivable (I'm only asking completely naively) that tachyons may actually exist? I know that that's actually been ruled out as at all likely - but, still - I sometimes wonder... The Higgs Field is described as being 'tachyonic'. REALLY wonder why they chose to call it

skdh Who owns the thinking? A human you or the Universe? You cannot prove that any idea came out of you the human brain. You know intuitively that any idea simply appears in you from the whole existence, i.e., you don't really think your own thoughts, let alone doing your own actions

skdh You may think the Universe is outside of you. You speculate that after you disappear the Universe will continue to exist. Can you verify this is the case? You cannot. Any attempt to prove the case would only prove that YOU exist first. What is without YOU ARE?

skdh The Universe is inside of YOU. Without YOU there won't be such a thing called the Universe. Just like in your dream last night, the dream universe is none other than YOU yourself. It's all your intelligence in display. YOU are infinitely beyond a human being yet look like a human

skdh Interesting, science is catching up with the Bible. “'There is no doubt that a parallel exists between the big bang as an event and the Christian notion of creation from nothing.' Nobel Laureate astrophysicist George Smoot.

skdh Compatible only means that is 'possible' . Is NOT synonymous with 'likely' nor is synonymous with 'probable' . What would be the chemical substitute for a biological substrate , neural networks and neural activity in an 'intelligent'/ chemical Universe ? 🤔🤨

skdh Great article Sabine. You managed to put together a puzzle, develop a powerful idea through apparently unconnected pieces (non-locality, quantum wormholes, entanglement, dark matter).

skdh Maybe we are the bacterias and live in someones brain. Maybe the bacterias in our brain think the same way😂

skdh The universe is intelligent... human beings are not. The value of pi the real, physical universe uses and the approximated value of pi ignorant human beings use are NOT in agreement. Western mathematicians have absolutely no humility whatsoever, else they'd know.

skdh Ive been arguing about this with GPTchat

skdh The same algorithm responsible for the universe is responsible for consciousness.

skdh 'To find out, we would need a theory for the quantum properties of space' Or a theory for the field properties of space, and the quantum properties of matter. 'And those are stories that deserve to be told, too.' That's nice. When? skdh Philosophy Physics

skdh 'No eye can see Him, but He can see all eyes; And He is the Subtle, fully aware.' - Quran 6:103 He is with you wherever you are. And Allah/God is All-Seeing of what you do. Quran 57:4

skdh Giving Sabine the benefit of the doubt; an intriguing idea✨

skdh Maybe the stars are just atoms in a giant's knee. Maybe it's all a simulation. Etc. But what's reasonable? People like to think that consciousness is really special. Maybe it's the point of all creation. But I think it's just how an animal gets its dinner and avoids being eaten.

skdh Interesting article. Putting my n my editor’s hat for a moment, I’ll offer a couple of corrections: 1. “Even leaving aside that we don’t understand consciousness, high connectivity and rapid signaling seem conductive to thinking.” ‘Conductive’ should probably be ‘conducive’.

skdh This is not new light…just the same old darkness.

skdh It thinks therefore it is

skdh The red cell says to the white cell : sometimes I think we're part of a giant... They have a good laugh and go to a bar....

skdh Physics died in the 19th century. Now we’re left with hacks like Hossenfelder & an endless stream of academics on government grants producing similar nonsense.

skdh The Bible says first there was the word, however, thought must come first.

skdh Always a joy to read Sabine Hossenfelder.

skdh Lolololoolololololol.....one needs a brain to think , without which one is dead,,

skdh Same as the opposite.

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skdh It's not a stretch to say that the universe thinks. The stretch if you will is that it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to know what the universe thinks. We are too small. It's vastness threatens us unmercifully every second of every day. Yet it is still awe inspiring and beautiful.

skdh Yeah, I can twist definitions so that odd shit becomes technically true, too!

skdh Are we witnessing the confluence of science and religion? If you are willing to give up the idea of God being an elderly bearded gentleman sitting on a golden throne, the rest becomes easy if God can be everywhere at every time. Just sayin'.

skdh I mean we are part of the universe so technically yes it is intelligent, human intelligence is the universe evolving enough to understand itself.

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skdh 😊 Once after a while i open this app and such posts jump me before i remember i don't want to hear/read about the universe anymore.

skdh Science is God's signature.

skdh Perhaps even more precisely: the universe is an unfathomable construction according to the most accurate equation of all!?

skdh Now Regarding Speed Of Light As There Are Varients In Matter Like Dark Matter Which Scientist Have No Clue What It Is So Is The Case Of Light As Well The angels and the Rûh (Gabriel)ascend to Him in a Day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years.(70:4)

skdh Indeed the science written in the Vedas was as profound as it was poetic. (excerpt) “There was neither Aught nor Naught… No air nor sky What covered all? Where rested all? A void in wrapth… Who knows … from whence this vast creation arose? No Gods had then been born!

skdh Quran 32:5 (Allah) Rules the cosmic affair from the heavens to the Earth. Then this affair travels to Him a distance in one day, at a measure of one thousand years of what you count.

skdh ثُمَّ ٱسْتَوَىٰٓ إِلَى ٱلسَّمَآءِ وَهِىَ دُخَانٌۭ فَقَالَ لَهَا وَلِلْأَرْضِ ٱئْتِيَا طَوْعًا أَوْ كَرْهًۭا قَالَتَآ أَتَيْنَا طَآئِعِينَ ١١

skdh That's the thinking that tells how nomadic old slave-keepers in the desert came up with the idea of 'God' aeons ago!🙄 Human beings are so vain that they superimpose themselves on everything. What's a word for the galactic equivalent of 'anthropomorphic'?

skdh That doesn't imply this is so✨ It's a down-to-earth physicist (who cuts through the bull of peers) getting emotional having reached the end of her book... 😉

skdh We can hardly define what human consciousness is and yet, here we are ascribing thought to the universe. Intriguing.

skdh 'I think, therefore I am' -Universe

AbhijitChavda skdh Even a cell in my colon thinks universe is expanding exponentially during its lifetime... Little does it now that the intelligent universe just likes Rajma rice... HubbleTelescope JWSTObserver

skdh Hmm, well we do know that all of the intelligent agents we've encountered so far use their intelligence to behave in an environment, and that this appears to be what intelligence is for. So it seems to me that for all we know, the universe being intelligent is quite unlikely.

skdh skdh did you just Galaxy Brain the Time magazine

skdh I am not high enough to understand most of this

skdh Well this is not science but science fiction.

skdh A sentient universe does sound interesting but given it's sheer size, even if were sentient I don't think it would ever know we're here.

skdh The bacteries inside cow's stomach try to send message through our alphabet cereal every morning, we don't get the clue people!

skdh [الذاريات:21]: وَفِي أَنفُسِكُمْ أَفَلَا تُبْصِرُونَ As also in your own selves: Will ye not then see? Quran 51:20

skdh At 55, having seen so much that amazed me, I can believe almost anything. I'm hoping it's all a computer simulation.

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skdh Earth is intelligent, moon is intelligent ……

skdh BrianZahnd greg_boyd this article gets my imaginative thoughts running wild.

skdh And why it should not?

skdh Interesting and true, but don't tell my deranged overlords(its a joke cause at this point they can suck my balls) from Poland cause they are living still on flat earth and any questioning of that is punishable.

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skdh The very definition of intelligence is as subjective as human emotion: i.e. intelligence is any procedure that benefits a closed system, and thus will always be non objective. Only existence is 'real'.

skdh A thinking universe, how interesting. Someday in the next million years or so it would be nice if people managed to think too. Don't you think?

skdh The universe is over my head...except for the eye-level stuff. The rest is beneath me.

skdh The universe, please save Planet Earth.

skdh The universe is intelligent? Or the observer that you happen to be as a form of biomolecular sentient life, is intelligent. Then what is the quantification to the speech that I read?

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skdh No.

skdh anthropic nonsense

skdh Sabine assumes that the current laws of physics apply and we are not a simulation in an intelligent universe. There is no need to the limitation of the speed of light in an infinite mind of connected neurolons.

skdh That my coffee cup is intelligent is compatible with all we know so far

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skdh The left side won’t know what the right side is thinking any faster than the speed of light (unless entangled). So, really slow at decision making.

skdh Maybe Earth is the hell of the universe

skdh The thing that makes the universe intelligent is its occupants like us.

skdh :)) A 'brain' that has nothing to think about, no occupation, since nothing comes from outside. Even less outside contact than an embryo, even less 'fateless, like the sleeping infant' (Hoelderlin). A nerve center without any periphery? A brain without input has no output ...

skdh We are basically ants if we zoom out far enough trying to build AGI so the universe can learn itself even better

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dduane skdh What evolutionary pressure was applied that led to the development of intelligence in the universe?

skdh Microbial in our bodies asserted that the organs isn't intelligent and do whatever they want with it - illnesses! We must consider otherwise and deem the universe supra intelligence.

skdh The intelligence is God. The one who created the universe. He is in control of everything. Literally. Everything points to its creator.

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