Labour’s survival requires more than just discarding the Corbyn ideology

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The reasons for electoral failure go way beyond the leader. To win again, the party must undergo radical overhaul

I have been an outspoken critic of Jeremy Corbyn’s stewardship of the Labour party, but the crushing rejection of Labour by the voters in December was not down to Corbyn and Corbynism alone.

 

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. For 'Corbyn ideology' see giving a shit. Christ no wonder each article in this pitiful rag is accompanied by a begging letter. Seems not even Blairites and/or blue tick luvvies will buy it. 'Please donate blah waffle..'

The Guardian, through its relentless smears of Corbyn and the left, has helped land us a racist government with a PM who wrote an antisemitic book, hired an antisemitic writer, and went to the unveiling of a statue of a Nazi supporter. The far-right will be emboldened.

Although labour won't win with corbynism, they won't win with pure centrism either. The solution is to move away from the obsession with state ownership and towards empowering democracy. Look to the German greens.

This could have be written by Margaret Thatcher. I prefer Thatcher to Hodge. At least Thatcher was honest about wanting to destroy socialism and support big business. The fact that Hodge is still in the Labour party shows how spineless the party is.

You want to concern yourselves with your own survival - press/media outlets stuffed with public school incel/incelettes that support the status quo are 10 a penny.

Labour’s survival requires expelling Margaret Hodge, and the rest of the AS/BS idiots.

She talks of a warped worldview and hideous antisemitism, yet she is the one who defends the colonialist, apartheid Israel and is antisemitic to Jews who don’t share her own twisted worldview. She is the one who needs to leave the Labour Party and what’s the Guardian up to ffs?

Don't you realise that nobody reads your paper anymore?

Extract from the Hodge’s autobiography before she turned into a wanker

Neoliberalism is dead.

The Guardian 🤥

Labours survival requires discarding poisonous right wing elements like Hodge. DumpTheGuardian M_Star_Online

Let’s discard Hodge👎🤥

Yes, it needs reaffirmation and to come back stronger than ever!!

Try some true journalism and less of the poisonous ramblings of that vile woman...just for a change 🤔 oh and how about hounding that scourge of a govt for the release of russianreport Well?

It's clear hodgepodge is terrified of investigation into her personal finances

First was “leadership skills”, then “Brexit stance”, then “antisemitism”. Now the mask is off and shows these people only want to attack Labour’s policies and ideology. Same policies that got them elected and secured their salaries. 🤬🤬

Interesting, but missing the point about which voters care more about 'values' than the economy. Quite simply, it's people who don't need to work any more, who feel secure in their relatively generous pensions. A better strategy might be to get young *workers* out to vote.

Why give this idiot exposure?

No, you're right (wing? lol). It requires overcoming the media bias against the working classes and those who are outside the 1% who will benefit from Tory policy.

😆😄😅😂😅😄😆😄😅😂😅😄😆😄😅😂😅😄😆😄😅😂😅😄😆😄the absolute state of this ...

Can someone tell me what 'Corbynism' actually means please, if she means democratic socialism then shes in the wrong party.

Wrong boring!

The is deceased. It has ceased to be...

Not even fit to hold Chips, or wipe my arse.

Only had time to read the headliine, and see the pic. Can only hope it means that Labour need to discard millionare, apartheid- enabling child abusers...

“labours values of equality and solidarity “ you say, shame those 2 things have been absent amongst MPS who have worked tirelessly at every opportunity to undermine all the hard work of the very members & activists to get said MPs elected in order to achieve a Labour Government

Just read this after seeing much consternation about from labour supporting Twitter accounts. I'm not sure what she says that is so controversial?

Centrists stopped at nothing to stop Corbyn including sinking the ship. Alas they have a Damascus moment where everyone must sing The Red Flag and pretend nothing has happened.

What a load of drivel. GE2019 was about getting effing Brexit over with because everyone was sick of hearing about it. Even Johnson knew that, hence his slogan. So many Labour voters swung to Tories with a heavy heart, and Tories don’t have a cat in hell’s chance of keeping them.

Let’s start by discarding ppl that don’t support labour and use AS as a weapon to attack the ppl that really care about race and equality

Hodge lays into Corbyn and into left-wing politics, playing down nearly any role of the state in the economy as old-fashioned. But as ever, proposes no concrete alternatives other than 'things much change', and stressing that 'we must get into power'.

Criticism for criticism's sake.

Please go away. You really do not have anything of interest to say to Socialists.

I notice the cries of “Broad Church” that were so loud before have now fallen silent ...

Give me strength 🤦‍♀️

I'm no scatologist, but I know a neoliberal when I see one. DontBuyTheGuardian

What's the point of a socialist party without any socialist policies?

😱🤢🤮 warmongering Hodges. Hodges hates true Socialism Corbyn’s manifesto was the best dynamic and radical change this country needed... would have made us a modern country. Costs were equivalent to Germany and France. Buy back shares with government bonds. Corbyn should b PM

The sort of overhaul we need is to get rid of people like Hodge.

Why is Hodge even in the Labour Party? She's not a worker.

It’ll require teamwork. Can anyone remember what that means?

jenstuds They could start with open selection and getting rid of foreign agents like Hodge. If anyone in employment had taped a meeting with their boss and given it to the press they'd be sacked.

Oh look, Hodgepodge is talking shite again.

This MP is deeply obsessed and deeply disturbed.

Margaret Hodge is the Labour party's Ann Widdecombe.

I'll read this in the morning. At first glance I can see my Guardian subscription is unlikely to be renewed.

piss off, I'm pleased I stopped buying this and all other only fit for loo paper rags.

Labour and it’s leader are: ‘Reactionary’, ‘warped’, ‘hideous’, supported by ‘outdated union Barron’s’.I understand the Guardian worked hard to secure a Tory govt but have it’s intellectual standards declined so far that a Tory buffoon with insight of a doorstep is given air time

It requires a good look into business practices for all its politicians, I would say, to make sure everything's above board. You, Margaret?

And this is why I no longer subscribe to Guardian. I expect some sort of editorial control, with Ms Hodges apalling track record in public service why are you giving her air time?

So according to Hodge anti - semitism in Labour was so “ hideous “ that she was errrrrr.....REselected by her local party !

Says the clueless Hodge who knows nothing about social democracy it seems. She is in wrong party. Tory maybe?

She’s the M P for Barking Mad and it shows. Not science based policy, just her values, vs others ideologies. Oh my.

Surprisingly, this rag makes no mention of the significant number of 'antisemitism' complaints that Hodge made to UKLabour and of that number, the large number that turned out to have NOT involved Labour members.

It requires getting rid of Tories like Margaret Hodge.

Maybe, but discarding Mr C sooner than even a few months later would be a great start.

Guardian's survival requires more than just appealing to hateful neoliberals..

That's alot of words to just say 'Be like the tories'

Well.... What does a back stabbing bugger like her know? She is no Labour person I recognise!

What ideology? Democratic socialism? The founding principles of the Labour movement? To win we need to get rid of self-obsessed shit-bags like Hodge, who spent her every waking moment of the past five years attacking her own party.

Labours survival needs the British press to tell the truth .. and stop the propaganda machine.. end of !

It actually means getting rid of the horrendous likes of Margaret Hodge.

I thought we needed to discard all the Blairite Centrists, Hodge, Phillips, and all the others that worked against the party, couldn’t hide their glee when we lost!! Their are millions of socialists out there, in a real democracy they need representation! Guardian? Feeling 🤢

Reading this you would never guess Margaret Hodge believes herself a Labour supporter. If she is so ready to denigrate trade unions, state intervention and socialism, the very principles the party were founded on, she is definitely in the wrong party.

Drain the swamp.

Labours survival requires the career self-obsessed MP’s who put their own agenda above the needs of the homeless, children living in poverty, nhs workers, education, social - being expelled from the party for their constant media junkie hate fuelled actions! Simple

Ms Hodge is the one who needs discarding, and pretty quick if you ask me. We are waking up to the truth and the truth will win. Smears and lies will not win.

Wtf are the so called persons running this rag on?

Cross the floor Hodge that is your real home the party of every kind of RACISM

Yet again Labour cannot take the Voter figures because I voted Labout to ensure GTTO Trouble being that was not reciprocated Because Corbyn facilitated Brexit from day 1 He diid more to get Brexit done than Tories. WHY the Leader of the Main Socialist Party caused Brexit

This sounds like all out war on the Left by Labour Right

Couldn’t we just get rid of Margaret Hodge? And the Guardian?

You would think with her awful past 🤔

The defenders of the neoliberal Creed with the Queen of Outsourcing PFI nonsense leading the way haul themselves out of the long shadow of Thatcherism NotToryLite

A bint!

How many Tory parties do we need? As it is Tories can't go anywhere & get support. This view will not save Labour. It will save the Tory party because there will be little opposition. 3 austerity parties? No thanks. The political middle class put us where we are now.

“On the positive side, we still have a two party system”: so Hodge still believes in Labour getting its turn at that old unfair advantage of forming a majority government on a minority vote share. Fortunately, 75% of Labour members disagree: they want proportional representation.

Ooh Mrs Antisemitism Hodge at it again . Little tip Mrs Silly Woman . YOU DO NOT OWN OR RUN THE LABOUR PARTY. Getting upset that your Shoo-In lisanandy will NOT BECOME LEADER equally at Starmer will not become Leader

She is good at discarding things, just like the Children's home abuse report. I wouldn't listen to anything this vile woman has to say.

The Guardian...once a staunch supporter of the Labour movement...now they are packed full of Tories!

Why would anyone but the biased press ,be interested in what this deeply unpopular mp virulent speaking person have to say .

I have always thought that Barking was exactly the right Constituency for the corrupt, evil, sociopathic nutter that is Margaret Hodge to represent. More right wing than most Tories. God alone knows why her CLP wants her as a Labour MP. Maybe she has kompromat on some of them?

How is she a member of the Labour Party.

Just wondering, as a trade unionist, active rep & Labour Party member what margarethodge means by “Our relationship with the trade unions is clandestine and needs a complete rewiring to reflect the modern world of work.”

Islington child abuse.

Yet the planet's survival depends on discarding the Blair ideology.

You bet.

Being anti war and anti imperialist doesn’t make you anti western ffs. Seriously, what a truly tragic article by you clowns at The Guardian, you really are the voice of the bourgeois liberal metropolitan middle class. You do the odd decent article, but the majority of it is crap.

110000 deaths as a direct result of Conservative policies DWP figures. 4 million children 1.9 million OAPs living in poverty record number of people living and dying on the streets the Conservatives haven't built one affordable house since 2014. Dodger want to go back to that.

Ms Hodge talks of debate but never listens to anything but the sound of her own, increasingly maniacal, ramblings. This whole piece only serves to increase division in 'her' Party.

lol, no.

The sooner this Tory life rag is bankrupt the better

What utter tosh. Labour without ‘corbyn ideology’ (socialism do you mean?) isn’t a fucking labour party - just more conservatism by a different name.

Margaret Hodge a liar about anti-semitism and an insult to the memory of the Holocaust. Let's talk about the crimes of Israel why are you not talking about that to her clickbait you are just clickbait no credibility left you work for the government

Labour's survival requires open selection, we can do a lot better than Hodge, and sticking with the very popular policies that Corbyn brought to the party. Brexit is done.

'Labour’s survival requires more than just discarding the Hodge and the Guardian' True, but it would be a good start.

Fake news about Julian Assange let's talk about Neara Tandan telling you not to print that letter from those Jewish people actors journalist. Carry on with the anti-semitism. she is in this video I got that from Rolling Stone you are disgraceful.

Just unfollowed the Guardian.

I was reading through paragraphs of bullshit and misrepresentation waiting for Hodge to actually suggest things and then the article ended! Did you miss a bit off the end?

You are part of the government you are part of a smear campaign against Jeremy Corbyn. She is a neoliberal a warmonger. I would like you to explain that get her out of this country get her back to Switzerland tax Dodger Hodge call her that in America

One of the wierdest articles ever written by Hodge, one of the main architects of division within the Labour Party. Hodge is totally corrupt, but clearly well connected.

Yeah, because what we really need is to be more like the Lib Dem’s. 🤦‍♂️

BEWARE: You may be purged & democracy within Labour closed 🔐 & You have been warned!

OK where to start. Scottish party issues predate Corbyn. We are a democratic socialist party. The manifesto was fine

Labour will survive whatever she says, but what it needs to thrive is to be rid of blairites/centrists and smearing Zionists like her.

why is the Guardian giving this discredited politician a platform.....? oh yes, it's owned by a cabal of bankers an d hedge-fund managers

There’s a name for this it’s “Guardibollocks”

Labour members find the Guardian ridiculous. Columnists writing for a Tory readership.

RIP The Guardian Shameonyou

Good article this.

And things like this are why I no longer subscribe to or support the Guardian.

Absolutely right we must begin by kicking her and her right wing out on their arse!

Printing this guff from this particular source truly nails this once proud paper's colours to the mast.

What do dislike about the Corbyn ideology?

'Labour will not survive if it discards Corbyn ideology' fixed it

Hodge should really just join the Lib Dem’s that’s her true home

Love how the hard left will never learn. They should listen to this mp but won't. Lost cause

From the comments I can see that there are still so many corbynites in denial.

Total bollocks frankly.

annaturley Don't think Labour has learnt its lesson yet. To win it is what the electorate want. At present many members and some leader/deputy candidates are refusing to face reality, they are in fact for the few not the many.

Corbyn ideology?! I think she means socialism.

Hodge is it? Nah, I’m good.

The opposite. It needs to embrace it. Another stupid politician whose family business avoids paying a fair share of tax and a racist to boot. Her allegations of AS are pure nonsense. Stop giving the old bat airtime!😡

Yes. It requires abandoning Margaret Hodge and fealty to racist apartheid states.

Nasty woman. Abusive. Profited from Apartheid. Tax evader. And turned a blind eye to child abuse.

Ie actual Labour values. Ffs.

There will be no discarding of the policies labour put forward the only disgusting should be hodge re potty mounts and her treacherous band of blairites who had they supported labours front bench in 2017 then labour would be the goverment of the day now

Not bothered reading this load of old rubbish

I am not going to read this on principle I used to buy and read The Guardian and The Observer on a regular basis I stopped buying it months ago I am sure that I can’t be the only one

Ok I may vote for RLB if it means getting rid of this one

Our working class voters have gone. Trade Union membership has plummeted. And whose fault was that? I'll give you a clue - not Corbyn.

'Our relationship with the trade unions is clandestine and needs a complete rewiring to reflect the modern world of work.' I think she might have wanted to put more thought into this sentence. Perhaps she has confused 'corrupt' with 'clandestine'. But it is no secret.

We need to get rid of the Zionist Ideology out of the Lab party & be able to critzise any gov't where it is needed

If they want Bernie they can have him.

What an Utter load of Bo!!ocks

Discarding Hodge and ignoring the Guardian seems to be a better course. Luckily both are firmly in the business of self destruction. Hodge long ago ceased to be relevant. The Guardian is bleeding readers fast enough, let it die.

Nope!!

Just bugger off. You helped Johnson win. Why we would we listen to you.

Ah the guardian

I blocked this poisonous person on twitter ages ago. I didn't realise she was still in the Labour Party.

‘After a lost decade, we must be brutally honest about why we failed’ says MargaretHodge after listing every single one of the problems CAUSED by the Blairites and pretending it was the Left... she’s completely and utterly delusional

Luckily after many years I and most of my friends and family don’t buy the or ObserverUK any more....even free at Waitrose!!

Once again, Guardian giving voice to Jeremy Corbyn's enemies. BlockGuardian BoycottGuardian SocialistSunday

Labour’s survival would be helped if this bloody woman retired.

Why is this old crook still a member of the Labour party?

ExpelMargaretHodge for a start.

Utter crap

you are so disconnected. you have been bought - little/ no difference from a murdoch rag. What many of us discuss is, when did sell itself to the libertarian establishment?

Has your social media output published any more lying smears about Labour candidates - like the one circulated by Freedland? Notice he wasn't sacked (unlike Johnson when he lied in his journo job) but instead writes your front page.

How utterly disingenuous.

For labour to survive, it needs to remove from the party the secret tories, the Israeli controlled zionists and all those that seek to undermine Labour’s chances at every given opportunity. And we need media that doesn’t give a platform to complete morons like hodge.

Mandatory reselection now!

Discard the guardian

Hodge is a walking talking excuse for openselections

Labour's survival requires not listening to people who give bad advice, such as Hodges and her friends and definitely not let some dirty rag tell us what to do after they have behaved so appallingly.

Why do you give this person any time at all?

Labour survived requires embracing Corbynism, the time will come when it's the only way through the mess that Brexit will bring

Labour survival requires more than just discarding m. hodge, but discarding the guardian newspaper would be a start in the right direction.

Loughborough University's Centre for Research in Communication and Culture has the answer. Press hostility to Labour was more than double the levels of the 2017 election. Negative coverage of the Tories halved in the last week of the 2019 election.

WHY THE HELL ARE YOU GIVING THIS MISS ISRAEL A PLATFORM?! SHE IS NO FRIEND TO US JEWISH. JUST TO ISRAEL!!

Because the ever-dishonest margarethodge is definitely the right person to interview on this. What the hell happened to your integrity?

Some of the negative responses to this article, or rather it's author, is exactly why we are in this mess. I wonder if the responses would be the same if Hodge had used a pen name.

Says whom ? oh yes ..of course

Blocked, finally. You are no more 'independent' than my left ear.

'Constant debates within the party about “left” versus “right” are sterile and must stop.' Yes, they must stop, because there should be no right of the labour party.

well you were his cheerleaders on antisemitism and hating Israel (CiF and Seumas Milne are fountains of AS hate). so now you want to walk back your own extremism no apology either, it is who you are.

'Labour’s decimation in Scotland should be the canary in the coalmine' It was Hodge's beloved right wing Blairism which started this process- it's effects were just delayed. Labour wont win Scotland back without backing the country's inevitable independence.

It needs to discard the Bitterites and set up its own really loud media, profiting socialist values. It needs to hold press conferences instead of taking part in biased political shows and news. Then Labour will win

'emphasis on a big state', 'state ownership', 'vilification of success', 'unaffordable agenda' Margaret Hodge is just a standard right winger isn't she...

'the hideous antisemitism that infected the party' Labour has a lower rate of antisemitism than the Tory party and the general public; it also has a lower AS rate than under previous leaders. YOU'RE LYING.

'anti-western view of the world' Opposing imperialism is anti western, dontcha know...

Someone at this publication is too stupid to understand that the entire world knows that were Hodge a Corbyn supporter, the Guardian would be vilifying her as a liar and scapegoater of minors whose corruption facilitated sexual abuse of children whom she later lied about...

'The Corbyn ideology' What, progressive policies? You know, that thing labour is supposed to represent?

For 'Corbyn ideology' read 'socialism,' the Guardian, as ever, can Fck off.

Bitter auld witch...

Yes, margarethodge Labour's survival means discarding people like you who worked tirelessly to ensure it never got elected in 2019!

Hodge is the last person I would trust to advise on what's good for the Labour Party.

The feeble policies under Miliband, Brown & the late Blair era can't get us into power. Corbyn had the right idea but couldn't overcome the biased media. This needs to be reformed before the people can be presented with a selection of diverse choices on which to base their vote.

Wow, this is dog shit.

didnt vote in the blair years not going to again if trash like this dig up neo-labour

Corbyn was the real deal with compassion and integrity compared to this vile harpy that´s only goal seems to be the destruction of the real Labour party so she and her centrist friends can continue their ride on the gravy train.

This is an example of the kind of idiocy which means I no longer buy The Guardian or Observer.

starting by getting rid of mossad agents

Getting rid of all Corbynite detritus must be the first and major change. At all levels of the party.

Is that margarethodge Hodge still spreading her poison? Is the Guardian ObserverUK still giving her platform? Corbyn ideology is democratic socialism. Why doesn't she want that?

It’s only a matter of time b4 & ObserverUK publish more detail of Hodge’s view on ‘equality & solidarity’, with a re-run of the 2007 Observer article. I.e. the idea of ‘rebalancing’ in favour of the ‘indigenous family’ & ‘the legimate sense of entitlement’

Nice to see someone within the party recognize that Labour is now the nasty party.

Is the Harradan in chief still spouting her malicious bile?

Almost all the comments here going on the attack, almost all show themselves not to have read the article in full, almost all are determined not even to allow an MP to have a differing viewpoint. All of which serve to highlight many of the points she makes.

So much one could say about this woman and this article, but why waste the time? The Guardian sold its integrity down the river long ago, it's a neoliberal promoting rag, nothing more.

DumpTheGuardian

'We must cleanse Labour of its 'nasty party' image by eliminating antisemitism, nepotism and bullying,' says a nasty, antisemitism-weaponising bully.

HarrietHarman I’m not even sure where to start with the sweeping unsupported arguments in this piece, though how about Hodge thinking that C2DE is a good measure of working class people, when it’s absurdly inaccurate as one?

HarrietHarman Everybody in the world knows that except anybody connected to the Labour Party, who all have their heads up their .... sorry, in the sand.

HarrietHarman Hahaha wind your neck in, Hodge. You're a complete fraud

Who cares whether Labour is electable, as long as it is ideologically pure, eh Comrades?

Labour needs to enshrine and build on ‘Corbyn’s ideology’ ... i.e. integrity, honesty, compassion, moderate centre-left policies, robust challenge to injustice.

🤢🤮

Here speaks the woman who fanned the flames of anti semiticism & stoked the fire for extreme right.

The guardian needs a radical overhaul

Why on earth would anyone listen to Margaret Hodge?

This reads like a Daily Mail editorial. Where was the ‘vilification of success’ in Labour’s manifesto?

Hodge is an utter utter disgrace, politicalising anti semitism to further her own nasty anti Corbyn agenda was one of the most despicable acts in the whole parliamentary term. Vile woman.

Fixed it. Needs short glossary: Anti-western = anti war, anti neocolonial; 'The values of the 1970s': moderate pre Thatcher Bretton Woods Keyenesianism; more liberal minded [and middle class]: the poor are unsophisticated, small-minded and incapable of realpolitik.

Margaret Hodge, MP for Barking up the wrong tree.

It's amazing to me that Hodge is even allowed to be an MP after the Islington CA scandal. By offering an outlet to people like Hodge and Blair what message is The G sending? Corbyn will never reach their depth of wrongdoing

Both this article and Margaret Hodge are beyond out of touch.

Needs radical overhaul, just not Jeremy's radical overhaul. The honourable lady seems out of touch with reality.

Whilst Margaret Hodge is an MP with the Labour party, they will never receive my vote, Hodge does not represent true values of Labour

'Labour's anti-western view...' ffs

Yeah, the media were half the problem just as they are in Australia, the incessant ranting about fake anti semitism and being a decent human being somehow a terrible thing. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

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