Giving Ukraine heavy weapons does not mean NATO is at war with Russia

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As with the Soviets in Vietnam, providing arms is not the same as fighting

A BILLION EUROS goes fast when you are fighting a war. But Germany’s announcement on April 15th that it would give around that sum in additional military aid to Ukraine may at least soften criticism of its failure to send tanks. It is part of a recent wave of pledges to provide Ukraine with heavy weapons. Two days earlier America promised $800m in new aid, including armoured personnel carriers and helicopters.

From a historical perspective such worries seem misplaced. Take the offer of MiG-29s. During the war in Vietnam, dozens of American planes were shot down by North Vietnamese fighter jets furnished by the Soviet Union. In addition to aircraft, North Vietnam received vast numbers of tanks, missiles and artillery pieces from its Soviet and Chinese patrons, and used them to kill thousands of American soldiers.

This has not always been the case. International law, as it developed in Europe beginning in the 17th century, required countries that wanted to stay out of others’ wars to observe strict neutrality. That meant they had to trade equally with both sides of a conflict, as Oona Hathaway and Scott Shapiro, professors at Yale Law School, explained in a recent article. Supplying arms to one side only, or favouring its trade, could make their ships fair game for attack by the other.

To many analysts, legal definitions of neutrality or co-belligerency seem irrelevant. If Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, decides not to target NATO convoys supplying arms to Ukraine, it will not be because of the persuasive force of international jurisprudence. Yet by the same token, it is naive to imagine that supplying only portable missiles would lead Mr Putin to exercise restraint.

 

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Are you making explanations to Russia? Alright neither NATO nor anybody wants to be involved in war, but seems too weak to give that importance to what Putin says. NATO doesn't need to explain why they send weapons to Ukraine. That only will feed the ego of that shitty dictator.

Remember that the war was nos supposed to be like this. It was supposed to be ukraine wiping out the rebels in donbass followed by acceptance into EU and NATO. The US was caught out because they never considered what thier opponents can do.

Ho ho Ho Chi Minh

How the Russia thinks of it matters

It’s time for the west to announce and carry out a “special military operation” to rescue Ukraine

When will we learn ...

Why is NATO complaining about the deployment of missiles in Belarus. This does not mean that they will be fired.

Are those new weapons safe in Kiev? Oops! The Kalibrs just took the whole lot out! Seeking peace and saving lives are not bad things..

Yes it does! Jesus…we cannot be this clueless!

It’s all good, everyone does it.

The population of Kramatorsk gathered at the station to evacuate, but Ukraine, instead of providing free buses, decided to make its inhabitants a human shield for the demon-possessed Bandera and kill civilians with a rocket, for the sake of a global provocation

You must first arrange this with the Russians.

You can call it whatever you want. But this war is really between Russia and Nato. Ukraine happens to be the battlefield and Ukrainian are the casualties.

We already know it's all right for Russia to give weapons to others to fight the Americans but it's a declaration of war if NATO gives weapons to their enemies.

is it the correct time to give heavy weapon to Palestine?

naziruSSians are still shelling residential buildings, so I guess it's not enough. And here we go again. Bullies of the world still killing innocent people and world ....

The Soviet Union and NATO are parties to the wars in Vietnam and Ukraine respectively - enablers and facilitators.

Just give the Weapons NATO StandWithUkraine ArmUkraineNow SaveMariupol StopTheRussiaGenocide

Hope they keep thinking like this. Otherwise...

Course it doesn't. It just means that Nato is supplying weapons to Ukraine so it can do it's own bonfire.

Does the same principle apply other way around too ?

NATO is at war with Russia. Ukraine is a proxy.

GEORGE KENNAN PREDICTED THE UKRAINE CONFLICT IN 1997:

Russia has to decide if it really wants to be at war with NATO, besides just making empty threats.

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