England's lockdown did NOT prevent Covid deaths, say experts

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England's lockdown did not prevent people dying of Covid, experts say

, the Government had concluded there was no option but to issue an unprecedented order to curb the growing pandemic crisis. It was following the science, after all.

Within days, schools were shut and those considered most vulnerable to the virus – pregnant women, the over-70s and people with serious health conditions – were advised not to go outside. 'We are going to defeat this disease with a huge national effort to slow the spread by reducing unnecessary social contact,' the PM told the nation.

For the past few weeks, in a series of reports probing the science that has underpinned key pandemic decisions, The Mail on Sunday has investigated the accuracy of PCR tests and the chaotic way Covid-related deaths were recorded. 'The obvious one is the immense harm the lockdown, more than any other measure, did in terms of the economy, mental health and on the wellbeing of society.'But many analyses suggest that lockdown itself didn't have a huge impact on reducing the health burden. That was achieved in other ways.'

One paper that did attempt to tease out the benefits of individual measures, published last month, found stay-at-home orders reduced global Covid deaths by just 2.9 per cent. But he also points out that, while the figures quoted are 'pretty meaningless, the general idea is not totally wild'. 'We focused on this idea that if we stopped the virus transmitting among everybody, that this would somehow be sufficient to protect those who were at risk,' he says. 'And it wasn't.'

 

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… services such as cardiac rehabilitation are still suspended due to covid staff (maybe Brexit also) problems. Now telephone outpatients when people need to be seen in person

The fucking Mail!

Of course it didn’t save anyone, Hell, people argued semantics about airborne while clapping a cheering, turning streets into death traps every thursday night! Caused the chicken, turkey & Co2 shortages due to the amount of Avian outbreaks it caused! & spread covid like wildfire!

Hey, we did what we believed was right for the people of this country balancing NHS resources, the economy and keeping people alive. State of knowledge at the time. Move on, there is another emergency. We must now defend democracy and freedom in the Ukraine.

The so called cures were far worse than the disease itself!

JoannaBlythman I’m shocked at this information 🙄

No it didn't. It prevented worse catastrophe..

HBeMee1 When are people going to be held accountable BorisJohnson CMO_England uksciencechief MattHancock nadhimzahawi SAGE WHEN

Well I never !! You mean people losing everything didn't work ?

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Blood on their hands....

No it prevented the UK’s health system from collapsing! A situation it’s teetering on now!

Of course. many of us tried telling this in the very beginning

'And when all these measures are looked at together they do indeed have an impact'. So the title is wrong.

We know.But it prevented more deaths.

Not but it fucked a lot of businesses

What did those same 'experts' say at the time?

Experts say.... Scientists now think... Politicians now believe... The surest sign they knew all along..

lemondropsblue Who are these experts? Are they the online conspiracy theories? Or actual scientist?

If you ask enough experts there will always be some that disagree for their own reasons. It is not really news.

That’s what I tried to say but then people accused me of not liking vaccines and being a conspiracy nut. I think some people enjoyed lockdown and furlough too much. Ironically I’m still working at home and thriving but it’s made everything worse in society and led to war.

Prevention is very different to reduction. Do I detect the Daily Fail being instructed to start a cover up ahead of a post Covid Public Inquiry?

No shit 🤭

No it did not prevent people dying of covid, because all deaths are “with” covid, you test enough people who are sadly dying your always going to have covid deaths!!

Nor do the vaccines.

Goodness really

But it destroyed more lives than ending them

No...way 🙄

Are these the same experts who came up with the idea or different ones?

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Ya don't say🙄

Lockdowns have no logic for people who live as families in small properties & go out 1xday. Infection is passed around family & then when out. It’s a ludicrous response dreamt up by people removed from life. A plan of prevention based on health promotion was not even attempted.

Hogwash, you cherrypicked a line from that article for clickbait. dailyfail

Haha sure now the 'experts' got it right...gtfo

Theres a thing

I didn’t need an expert to realise that

It probably caused more people to die. Especially from an increase in mental health and the consequence of not treating illnesses like cancer.

The great Covid con 🙄 worse decisions ever made

PatWilliams1944 Fcuking china!!!!

There are non so blind, than those that refuse to see.

My 14 year old daughter is now a self harmer because of the experts. Lock down ruined everyone’s mental health apart from the leftwaffe weirdos.

2tweetaboutit It’s obvious that the lockdowns would at least have the effect of drastically slowing down the rate of infection and smooth out the peaks and reduce strain on nhs.

Well who knew!!

'England's lockdown did not prevent people dying of Covid, experts say'. Not surprised judging by the amount of people from Hull, Leeds, Sheffield etc that rocked up in Bridlington for a day out. Sorry, I meant their 'daily exercise'.

Clearly it did help prevent people dying as the numbers dropped dramatically, during lockdowns 🤔. Do these so called experts see data Numbers don’t lie

All the 'experts' are queuing up to claim the 'experts' were wrong, when countless normal people like me were saying this from day one. Well there's a fecking revelation for you.

They were pointless

Righto.....

It was never expected to.

Or anywhere else in the world,we know.

Almost 2 years ago I called mrjamesob LBC remonstrating this point. He insinuated that I and others like me were part of the problem and that we should be routinely arrested and charged with manslaughter. Fact is, lockdowns have caused/hastened far more deaths than they saved.

Completely misleading headline, if you can be bothered to read the typically biased article. Classic Mail.

How can a lockdown prevent an airborne virus? 🤡

Public health act 1984 made the whole thing illegal anyway! No ones goin to prison though! Report on that please!

Scammed! But its not over yet!

What’s new?

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Of course they reduced the number of infections and death. The numbers dropped significantly and the hospitals were therefore able to cope.

But everyone else was doing it… lol

I agree, but this is hindsight. Many countries adopted much more draconian measures, and some still have them in place. Labour were calling for more.Given the unknown dangers of Covid at the time, compared to many other countries, the UK did pretty well

That's very interesting. Why the sudden u turn?

No but it made a lot of conservatives a lot of public money which was what was intended

No all it did was make it so we can't pay to heat our homes or feed ourselves or our family's and raised the energy bill beyond all Comprehension and ruin the economy.That all Johnson's lock down did and now we are paying for it.Thank's very much Johnson thank you.

Lots of garbage in there.

And many more experts say the lockdown did save lives: as the article says.

EXPERTS your right wing readership HATE experts. Have you lost the plot?

That’s £400,000,000,000 spunked then hey ho

Great excuse for this:

Was obvious from day 1. Prison sentences should be handed out for this. Biggest scandal in history

I thought experts said they would. So v confusing all these experts.

That's not what the rest of the article says and there are large caveats to Woolhouse's comments upon which you based the headline. The article is actually quite well balanced for the Mail but the headline is grossly misleading.

We know, it was all a scam, no more than a cold🤡🤡

Who’d have thought it? Locking down after a peak of infections 3x had little impact on nature. Never mind the Tories and their elite mates profited and the rest of us and the country are poorer for it.

Usual utter drivel from the fascist chip wrapper, devoid of any fact or actual experts, it’s as poor a piece of warped propaganda that we’ve come to expect from these non-journalists 🤡

Pretends to be shocked

You don't say

No but it did cut down lots of death and beds at hospitals too

No shite !! Not exactly a shock that

😅 Another conspiracy theory I guess.

JuliaHB1

BS. NZ and Australian lockdowns were successful. Our pitiful Govt. always locked down too late and reopened too soon.

Anything normal people didn’t know.

Many experts told them this but they were under the spell of the SAGE lunatics!

Prove it scientifically. Medical experts disagree with this opinion.

From the Daily Heil who stated Hitler & Mosely were correct 🙄 and the main reason why fact checkers exist.

Well no shit. This was known from very early on, all the legit studies, which were not associated with either the anti or pro agendas, showed this but that was all “conspiracy theory” according to those who care most about LOOKING like they’re doing something/anything virtuous

Instead it had a huge negative effect on mental/physical heath, physical ageing & quality of life for tens of millions…

No fucking shit Sherlock

I disagree….This is BS to justify no lockdown now. Its all about the Economy under Sputnik Rishi…

Who would’ve guessed?🤡🤡🤡

No shit sherlock

Surprise surprise.

COVID19 _ With Sage and others continually pushing worst case scenarios as fact, and politicians and officials ignoring the rules the police kicked in doors to enforce on us, Downing St excepted, of course. Lots of us don't believe official stat's anymore.

Had we lock our borders like Australia and new Zealand and waited till vaccine rollout was well under way we could have stopped the different varieties of covid coming in and protected our citizens we have a very populated island and screwed up big time causing major deaths

Experts!

Hindsight hindsight

Cover-up in progress!

More Conservative lies!

England had a failed lockdown, through no fault of the population, who worked hard to observe it. But it was like trying to stop an overflowing bath by turning the tap half off, then turning it on again as soon as the flood slows down slightly. Johnson has failed us terribly.

Compare with NZ which did a real lockdown. Did that save lives? Obviously yes. They now have high BA.2 cases but many fewer deaths. Lockdowns are an extreme measure. They're only pointless if you do them too late/open too soon/fail to put other measures in place when you open up.

Lockdown did not prevent people dying of covid but it reduced the number of people dying of covid.

FFS, I don’t need experts to tell me what I already know.

No shit!! Just caused more deaths instead. RunByMorons

No but it drastically reduced them.

Yes the lockdowns have been disastrous for this country and ultimately haven’t prevented the inevitable & unstoppable move of covid through the population until it weakened through herd immunity.Trying to hold back covid was like Canute trying to hold back the sea

So making tea party does not matter😂

🤦‍♀️What plant is this idiot living in - I know rare deadly disease, I live with 2 of them but also know these diseases can outsmart the medical professionals big time - So people that are alive today before vacation are only here because of lockdown that may not be if not!🤷‍♀️

However it did stop hundreds of thousands of people getting routine dental and optical checkups, the kind we are told must be maintained even when there are no obvious issues, to identify conditions early

Silly statement It did reduce the death rate MSBNM

Well carried out ones did, & because they bought vaccine roll out time, didn't just save them in the short term. Regards from NZ, where lockdown plus high vaccine roll out means deaths are still proportionately low.

True, but it saved millions from cat Hong covid

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