Abortion rights: US Catholic bishops face clash with Biden
US Catholic leaders begin a process that may call for the president to be barred from Holy Communion.
Joe Biden outside St Joseph on the Brandywine Catholic Church in Wilmington, Delaware, last monthUS Catholic bishops are on a potential collision course with President Joe Biden after voting to commission a document that may call for him to be barred from Holy Communion.
The US Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) clashed online over whether to draw up a teaching document on politicians who support abortion.Holy Communion is the most important ritual in the Catholic Christian faith.The Catholic president regularly attends Church services.
Responding to news of the bishops' vote, he said: "That's a private matter and I don't think that's gonna happen."The Vatican has already indicated its opposition to the bishops' move.America's second Catholic president headtopics.com
After the debate on Thursday, the Most Reverend Allen H Vigneron, vice-president of the USCCB, announced the move had passed by 168 to 55, with six abstentions.The US clergy is deeply divided on the issue. The Most Rev Robert McElroy, bishop of San Diego, warned such a document would lead to the "weaponisation" of the Eucharist (the more formal name name for Holy Communion).
However, the Most Rev Liam Cary, the bishop of Baker, Oregon, said the Church was in an "unprecedented situation" with "a Catholic president who is opposed to the teaching" of the Church.Vatican appealThe document will now be drafted by the doctrine committee of US bishops.
However, although it will be a form of national policy, it will not be binding. Each individual bishop has the right to decide who should be blocked from the Mass in his diocese.The document will return for debate at the next bi-annual US Catholic Bishops Conference in November.
media captionThe abortion battle explained in three minutesThe controversial issue of whether politicians who support abortion should receive Mass has become more prominent with the election of Mr Biden as president.Cardinal Blase Cupich, archbishop of Chicago, warned most priests would be "puzzled to hear that bishops now want to talk about excluding people at a time when the real challenge before them is welcoming people back to the regular practice of the faith and rebuilding their communities". headtopics.com
In an essay published last week, Marianne Duddy-Burke, the executive director of Dignity USA which supports LGBTQ Catholics, accused bishops of behaving "in a brazenly partisan manner" by possibly denying Communion to President Biden and others.
"Withholding Communion from any Catholic to punish them for their identity, actions or beliefs is coercion. It violates the duty of care that is the central ministry of the ordained," she wrote.However, proposing the motion, Bishop Kevin Roades, of Fort Wayne-South Bend, said: "We weren't targeting particular individuals or limited to one issue, but I think we need to accept the [Church's] discipline that those who obstinately persist in grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion."
Cardinal Luis Ladaria - the prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican's theological watchdog - urged the US Catholic Bishops Conference to delay the debate.He wrote to the conference saying it would be "misleading" to suggest abortion and euthanasia were "the only grave matters of Catholic moral and social teaching that demand the fullest level of accountability on the part of Catholics".
Joe Biden is the second Catholic elected US president, after John F Kennedy. He could be the first president to be denied Communion by his Church - a remarkable development that emphasises the divisive nature of abortion in US politics and religious life. headtopics.com
Biden isn't the only politician to support abortion rights who has faced sanction by Catholic clergy, of course. Former Secretary of State John Kerry drew similar warnings when he ran for president in 2004, and several members of the Kennedy family have been prohibited.
In addition, the resolution being considered by the US Catholic bishops would be non-binding, and Biden's church in Washington, the Jesuit-run Holy Trinity, seems unlikely to heed the guidance.Nevertheless, at a time when the Catholic Church has been beset by a decades-long paedophilia scandal and membership has declined, the decision to consider punishing perhaps the best-known American Catholic - a man who attends Mass weekly and regularly speaks of his faith - comes with considerable risk.
For many members of the US Catholic leadership, however, abortion is an issue of life and death - and one worth the fight. As the Supreme Court is poised to consider the national legality of the procedure, it's a subject that seems destined only to become contentious.Read more: BBC News (UK) »
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David Cameron gets everywhere 😬 Pathetic!! My imaginary friend is offended by this! An imaginary figure and a bunch of virgins deciding on what a woman can do with her body! Ha ha ha Joey Biden for Pope yeah The elected people should be the voice that represents the country, not those paedophiles! PRESIDENT BIDEN SHOULD NOW PASS A LAW STOPPING CHILDREN GOING INTO CATHOLIC CHURCHES AS IT AS BEEN APPARENT THAT THIS CHURCH AS BEEN ABUSING CHILDREN AND COVERING IT UP FOR YEARS!!!
But not everyone believes in God or follows religion. Why should they be bound to the views of abortion in the same way? As a president of a multi cultural nation in the 21st century he has a duty to put his own faith aside for the good of his people surely? Or nah? ProChoice You can support the right to abortion for others and but not a choice for yourself. The bishops should ask who are they to stand in judgement. They aren't God, it appears many are pedophiles?
He claims to be a devoted Christian but supports the killing of babies. Suppose he doing what he told as his brain is mush If Biden is'Catholic', he must condemn conscience-free baby-killing Even the lesbian ones? Biden will smack them down unless Mr. pope gets off his throne and issues the order one way/the other. Catholic clergy even catholic congregations everywhere do not present as united. The catholic religious org seems to be in shambles.
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Bunch of supposedly celibate men telling law makers what women can do with their bodies? Let them try Is it because these men dressed as women want a continuous supply of supplicant young boys to break in to the faith ? Death is too good for them. They have the right to hold church members to religious standards. It is time Democrats reevaluated their stance on abortion, especially partial birth abortions which are infanticide! But there was no protest about selling weapons to Israel which just attacked Gaza again.
Let's face it, it's all hocus pocus made up by men, so make up your own rules and live by them; tell the RC Church to stay away from young boys and stop killing indigenous chldren. I pray for the repentance and conversion of all abortionists, including President Biden. May he and all heretics repent. May the slaughter of the innocents end in our lifetime. I pray thus in Jesus' name.
Baby murder is a sin. The hypocrisy of this political organization is unreal. They’re fine with playing hide the pedophile & abusers but this makes them have a moral issue? It’s past time to tax this cult & make them pay into the communities they fleece with their hypocrisy. The two witnesses of the book of Revelation, Malachi 4, the prophet Elijah, were revealed by God in a wonderful way. It is a cry in the wilderness. “Repent!” “The Messiah is coming!!” “Without holiness no one can see the Lord!!”ChooseEternityNow
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But pedophilia with these creeps is A-OK. Most welcome! The Church has no place in womens bodies. Nor do governments. Stay out of womens lives. I can smell the hypocrisy from here. And let me see do you all still believe the dudes saying women were born from a man's rib and punished is why the bleed,? OMG grow up
Biden should phone Boris Johnson, he is a Catholic. They oppose abortion because they need a steady supply of children to rape. I love that the Church is making a stand. (Trying too anyway) God will have the last word. He is not as loving as facing those who are not fearful of him!
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So, they are ok with their people molesting children but not ok with women making decisions about their own body and anything in it. Time to start taxing these clowns if they want to get political. For the record, the Vatican has already told them to back off. This is extremists in the US and right-wing nutters around the world who are jealous of the Taliban and want their own theocracy and religious police.
Oooer that's like a schism between church and state. The opposite of Slovenia where, thanks to vladaRS measures priests are getting paid double. We are too hungover to catch up so please avoid unofficial spirituality as it means problems in the village. comment It's coming home. The hypocrisy in the Catholic church is outstanding. These are the same Bishops who sweep under the rug the reality that some priests defile young kids. If they ban politicians who are pro-choice, they should also ban their congregation who share the same belief too.
Geez. Isn’t there enough division? If one were to compare the number of sexual misconduct lawsuits in the U.S. against the church and the Catholic Bishops vs their stance on Abortion Rights; perhaps this is simply a matter of Capitalism's view on 'Supply and Demand Economics.' Why the fuck is this even a thing?
Go extinct already.
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Big mistake It’s not a clash assholes. They didn't have problems hiding these pedophile priests and bishops, but they have problems with a President Biden because he knows women are adults and should have autonomy over their own bodies and what's inside of them. The hypocrisy with the Catholic church is sickening.
Unless the church owns up to all its child abuse and pedophilia, everything it says is hogwash. Oh that can't be BBC! Are you sure? Joe B is loved by everyone except the white supremacists and insurrectionists who make up 100% of the Republican Party! One thing for sure, even if he wanted to he will never get a woman pregnant any more.
The bishops have the problem...Biden doesnt. Promote birth control of all kinds if you want to end abortion. If they don’t offer him communion because of politics, they’re a political organisation. Tax them. So how's the little boys today? The Catholic church cannot speak about abortion until they finally clean house instead of playing shell games.
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Religion should have zero say in politics anyway. Good, Biden has tainted the Catholic faith with his liberal views.
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