More transparency and detailed data is needed as to where the outbreaks are happening, experts have said. Image: RollingNews.ie More transparency and detailed data is needed as to where the outbreaks are happening, experts have said. Image: RollingNews.ie AN ADVISER TO the World Health Organisation says Ireland should allow Covid-19 to spread in a “controlled” way among people under 60.
She also advised against “crude recommendations” stating that measures should be based on the outbreaks identified.The current epidemiological evidence does not clearly show what is needed or necessary, she said. When explaining the rationale behind the decision to ban indoor dining in restaurants and pubs, Professor Philip Nolan said last week that resources and data is not available, stating that “public health would track down the source if they had the resources to do so, but they don’t, and must prioritise the management of cases”.
The committee was also told that the government should wait until at least a year before starting to make comparisons between countries and the different strategies used. Stop aiming for a Covid-free Ireland or even levels as low as in July at the end of lockdown. She said now is the time to change tack. There is a divergence in society between the young and older generations – and there is a risk of losing public buy in, she said.
Wise up
Man who said that has withdrawn it, shuffling & saying “Oh, I didn’t know that”
Any expert who says seriously “we now know that masks have to be used, PPE must be worn, and we must test asymptomatic healthcare workers.” Is too stupid to be listened to.
But surely, if we did that, Ireland would turn into an Apocalyptic Wasteland like Sweden, populated by Ravenous Dark Creatures from Beyond the Gloom.
Truth is out now I see establishment backtracking to save skin. Ireland won't forget the terror and trauma and unnecessary deaths. Justice will not escape these criminals.
That comment about an awful lot of young people dying is ridiculous as it has been taken out of context. In any case look at the Swedish COVID deaths by age...
This is an outrageous proposition. There is 1.5 million with underlying conditions and elderly in Ireland. Are they suggesting the we it doesn’t matter if these people die! What bloody right do they have to decide on whose life is of value and whose is not
irelandforthe Great some real experts telling the truth.Fake news devastated they have to report it.
Thats all great providing Prof Kirsten Schaffer is held accountable, If any member of my Healthy Family suffer any side effects from catching the Virus either by lung, heart or eye damage or worse still Death. I must be assured I can sue HER.
I respectfully request we don't take our cues from Sweden.
You say experts, yet it was literally only One guy who said that. He's an ex adviser, not current and he's from Sweden who attempted herd immunity and it's not working for them.
And what about healthcare staff looking after the most vulnerable in society- if there’s a ‘free for all’, hoping for herd immunity, how are staff going to be protected in order to protect their charges?
Dangerous far right rhetoric 😭
die living or live dying
Quite a fcuking liberty by the Oireachtas to invite an epidiemologist from a country that abdicated their public health responsibilities and unneccesarily kill loads of people to promote such a hair brained scheme here. They can do what they want in Sweden. We are civil here.
Might as well I infect us with ebola the bubonic plague and any other nasty at the same time and see if you can survive.
Yes we should
Good ideas.
They don’t have the bottle or leadership to do that . They’d rather let us all die from cancer and other illnesses. Anything but covid .
Even UK abandoned this approach. This is a bad idea and would result in needless death and suffering for thousands of families. We shouldn't be considering it.
How many people will die?
Just try lock updates over 60s.... We're not total gobshites who will he herded like sheep. If you really want to see a proper uprising..... Give it a go 😡😡😡
Doesn't make sense and certainly not right. No guarantee that herd immunity can be built up as the virus can be caught a second time apparently. Also, Sweden had a much higher death rate and hospitalizations than other Scandinavian countries.
Two things.... 1, the expert is no longer in position 2, Sweden has had up to ten times per capita deaths than it's next door neighbours - so far.
Sure, just as long as those in favour of this are held personally responsible for those under 60 who die or suffer LongCovid as a result.
Alarms going of at NPHET HQ. Prepare for a Philip Nolan attack on the mans academic record.
experts continuously contradicting each other, therefore they are not experts!!!!
All the panic-merchants who are loving the drama of lockdown shouting everyone down saying they know eff all because they aren’t a scientist. Then when a scientist gives their opinion they are a gobshite and haven’t a clue. We have to move on can stay locked up forever
Contradictory opinions
Remind me again what the Swedes are expert at? Besides a higher than average suicide rate, that is. Absolute. Fucking. Basket. Case.
Yep, they have been over and over again, but other agendas going on here
Experts in genocide more like!
The worrying part what came from this was that the government have no clue where the transmission is taking place and are just guessing without any evidence thus destroying businesses and livelihoods.
It will be interesting to see what Ireland’s response is to this “advice”
Completely agree with this...I hope someone from the Irish government read this
Sounds like a plan.
Finally some sense 🤞
Great idea! Let there be so many people with covid related complications choke up the Hospitals and increase the death rate! Who is this so called ‘expert’? Gobshite!
Before doing an untested experiment on the population at large, ask for 1,000 healthy human volunteers under the age of 60. Administer a large viral load of Covid19 to them. See how they get on over a 6 month period. Volunteers?
Finally a voice of reason. Will sadly go unheeded by our crazy government and its supporters who love the idea of being paid to stay at home on your arse. Eventually the magic money pit will run out.
It's working great for Sweden without destroying the economy, probably too late here for the later.
How would you protect vulnerable while the you who live with them have it. Also what do you do about the long term effects these young people suffer. Sweden has already admitted they got it wrong.
I’m 44. I’m a wife, I’m a daughter, I’m a mother of 3 kids aged eight and under, and I’m a nurse. I have cancer of my immune system, and have been in remission under 12 months. Would my death be explained to my family as “necessary collateral damage” by these experts?
Wow some sense coming out
This may help to solve problems with ageing society, healthcare system and housing crisis (especially in Dublin). Only young survive!
Yes
did you stop crying after this comment?
So just leave all the over 60s and vulnerable locked up and restricted for the foreseeable ? That's not very fair
Sure, you go first, I’ll watch.
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