– the last time spending breakdowns by jurisdiction were published – approximately 53 per cent of the $14.7-billion annual operating expenditures were devoted to municipal policing, while the rest went to the RCMP and the provincial police forces. And on average, 80 per cent of police budgets go to salaries and benefits.
However, as dramatic as the call for defunding is, there are statutory and political barriers to doing so in Canada. Provincial police-services acts require municipalities to have “adequate and effective policing” and pay for it. In Ontario, failure or refusal to do so can result in the province deploying the provincial police and recovering the cost.
About a decade ago, in response to growing public concern, a national consensus appeared to emerge among police boards and commissions and their respective municipalities – that the current model of using a highly paid, uniformed and armed police officer for all functions was obsolete, expensive and too often produced dire consequences.
It was widely understood then, as it is now, that a multidisciplinary, integrated model based on an accurate assessment of a community’s actual needs – a model that relies significantly less on the armed uniformed police officer as the virtually exclusive provider of all services – is a preferable choice. Many police boards and commissions across Canada began their own reforms, adding more civilian participation and oversight as well as technology.
GlobeDebate I am but only after we defund Canadas bloated social net, lets get rid of that first then we can defund police
GlobeDebate Just give me time to pick up sand bags, barb wire, and extra armour for the chev.
GlobeDebate How about we just defund the media and the world would seem like a better place.
GlobeDebate Funding the police differently.
GlobeDebate Why? A few bad apples doesn't mean all police need to be punished.
GlobeDebate Define:de-funding. If it means reversing the decades long trend of dumping more and more social work onto overworked and understaffed police, then I could vote for that.
GlobeDebate Be part of the solution!
GlobeDebate This is why we should not be surrundering legally aquired firearms. Defund the only org. that keeps society from completely melting down into a state of anarchy, do u really think crime rates are going to drop/stop? You can’t control anything now. Have we lost our minds? WTF?
GlobeDebate Doubtlessly some idiots writing for the pandering Globe will want to champion laying off police and deputizing the Black Lives Matter agitators.
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GlobeDebate Yeah, cause every thought the US media has you must have right? Stupid media. So useless
GlobeDebate Once we're finished refunding the media.
GlobeDebate Today's Tucker Carlson segment is the only thing that made any sense- the whole show was better at explaining this, but this clip does a good job:
GlobeDebate Beyond brain dead to suggest a thing! Stop taking advise from angry teenagers and those who never grew up!
GlobeDebate Defund the pigs they are destroying rural Ontario taking over 50% of the taxes
GlobeDebate Rapists and pedos and killers and cannibals are big big fans of this idea.
GlobeDebate Yeah, who you going to call when they smash your windows and set fire to your offices? Yeah, thought so.
GlobeDebate I think that we are talking about defunding the CBC ?
GlobeDebate Lol what?
GlobeDebate How about we defund the CBC first!
GlobeDebate What kind of a heading is that? I used to think you were the more educated newspaper in Canada. But now I see you are just the same fake news as the rest. I will never buy another globe and mail again.
GlobeDebate Sure. Worked in the 70’s well. Just got to work again!
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GlobeDebate You are out of your mind, Alok. Want to see what happens when there aren’t police around? Look south. Not the protesters. The looters. Want to defund the police? Give me the right to own an AR-15 again.
BillTufts GlobeDebate Ask a Rural Canadian how long it takes for Police to arrive if someone is breaking into your home, stealing fuel or there is a domestic violence call. It could be hours ! If you want to defund the Police fine, but you’d better give us our guns back.
GlobeDebate There is no conversation. Period.
GlobeDebate Defunding the police is not the answer. They should however decrease the salaries of their employees, especially the hourly rates of officers serving at special events (like Pride back in the day or concerts) and decrease their hourly pay for weekends and holidays.
GlobeDebate I am getting so mad at the media attacking the cops so hard.
GlobeDebate What will fill the void if police are defunded? Will citizens have to create their own security to police their neighbourhoods? Please stop pushing this stupid idea.
GlobeDebate This type of garbage makes the media completely irrelevant. The media needs to own its part in stirring up unrest and spurring on violence and looting. Without media a lot of problems disappear instantly. I’m ready to defund the media
GlobeDebate I say go for it. But don’t come crying when crimes continue to increase and then wonder how. Oh isn’t there two shootings a day on average in Toronto and an illegal firearm problem currently? But yeah defund the police.
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GlobeDebate Why is this even a news article. Defunding the police will only lead to more issues in my opinion.
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GlobeDebate What could go wrong?
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GlobeDebate So the entire public have to become 1st year uni students? Ideologies intact and fighting for what's 'right'? I think not. Time for G&M to think critically like it used to do. Who would they call if their building was busted into? Professors?
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BillTufts GlobeDebate You spelled defending wrong.
GlobeDebate Fine get rid of the police and I will defend my property. I doubt you want the outcome
GlobeDebate Typical Canadian lefty garbage. They are necessary. Make them wear cameras to be accountable and make our criminal 'justice' system more accountable and actually punish those who do wrong.
GlobeDebate 🙄🙄 Leave our damn guns alone
GlobeDebate Screw your click bait.
GlobeDebate I am not ready to defund the police. Sadly, I didn't have the foresight to acquire a cache of firearms and ammo. Let me do that first please.
GlobeDebate But then who will enforce sport rifle bans and kids using playground equipment during Covid 19 ban?
GlobeDebate N W O
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GlobeDebate you farleft baby soft weaklings don’t want that, trust me.
GlobeDebate Fuck no! You kidding me?
GlobeDebate What an astronomically illogical and dangerous concept.
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GlobeDebate Let’s start with defunding the media
GlobeDebate Ladies and Gentleman, the reason I cancelled my subscription in 2018.
GlobeDebate Are we ready to start defunding the media?
GlobeDebate No!
GlobeDebate I, for one, appreciate being able to call 911 in an emergency.
GlobeDebate I think it’s time to define what “defund” really means. The knee jerk reaction will always be no. “Redefine the duties of the police” is more productive imo.
GlobeDebate Wow someone intelligent enough to type but stupid enough to want anarchy.
GlobeDebate we sure are. we gave them trust and authority and they abused it by behaving no better than a gang of thugs
GlobeDebate Globe amd Mail idiots even asking it.
GlobeDebate You are baiting people.
GlobeDebate No.
GlobeDebate Stupid headline. Of course not. And just how much longer is the paper going. Ugh. Enough already you once great rag.
GlobeDebate Sure let’s get less police. Take weapons away from people. If somebody comes and wants to kill - oh well... Shit happens, right? Are you guys on drugs or something?
GlobeDebate Sure, then we can turn into a third world or better yet a commie state and let the military rule the streets!! You people are crazy!!
GlobeDebate Are you sniffing glue? So no law and order at all and criminals run free? Right out of a bad comic book. And guns confiscated so we cant protect ourselves. What is wrong with you people?
GlobeDebate DefundThePolice DefundTheGovernment TaxationIsTheft We need to defund far more than just the police. Canada needs less government, less taxes, less gun control, and more freedom. Taxes are a form of violence!
GlobeDebate Haha, no
GlobeDebate Why is this even a conversation piece?
GlobeDebate No debate until, first lets ask what will replace police enforcement. Society with police right now overall cannot stop petty crime; physical/mental & sexual abuse, spouse abuse, assaults,thefts, killings, fraud, illegal firearms, criminal activity, drug dealers,gangs.
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GlobeDebate Globe and Mail. Are you insane. There are already so many murders in Toronto. No cops and you can times that number by 1000.
GlobeDebate When I'm ready to defend the police, I'll start by defending CRA.
GlobeDebate Have you lost your mind.
GlobeDebate Everything with the progressives is a trick question! You say yes, and they start building an archipelago of gulags to put you in! People don’t take this communist ideology serious enough!
GlobeDebate That's putting the cart before the horse. Fund community projects and work on the root causes of problems. Then once the crime rate starts dropping, then you can downsize the police force to weed out bad officers. Nature abhors a vacuum. Create a gap and bad things may fill it.
GlobeDebate ridiculous Ridiculous statements
GlobeDebate Nothing like helping out the liberals an NDP divide the nation, way to go. But what else can we expect you’re on their payroll.
GlobeDebate If you want to see an overrun Government funded medical system have fun
GlobeDebate Media and their headquarters are welcome to opt out from police protection.
GlobeDebate Let’s do this⬇️ instead of stupidly defunding our Police: How about discussing if we are ready to defund paid MSM propaganda rags who actively try to influence the destruction of the people the Press once served? ➡️That makes MUCH more sense!
GlobeDebate Uh no the fuck we ain’t. God damn the world is getting more and more stupid every passing day.
GlobeDebate Was is suggested by the 21 second boy? TrudeauBlackface
GlobeDebate Let's start by investing in education and economic action for the lower classes. Secure our borders and eliminate gang crime wholesale, then we can talk about reducing the amount of funding law enforcement gets.
GlobeDebate Sure... there'll be no one to try to confiscate my guns, and nobody to arrest me when I use them to defend myself and my property.
GlobeDebate We need ban ignorant journalists
GlobeDebate LA city council has just defunded LAPD. Up to $150m to go into community initiatives. Yes, we need to do in Canada. Here is situation in Edmonton
GlobeDebate I dunno .... Are we ready to talk about how fucking stupid anyone that thinks that's a good idea is
GlobeDebate Life would be so much better with the equivalent of the Soviet Union's NKVD and the German Democratic Republic's Stasi. Both are secret police, so there would be no street presence, no public budgets. Just a knock on the door for re-education camps and gulags.
GlobeDebate Sure but my neighbours & I will Arm ourselves to the teeth & do neighborhood watch patrol all night with a loaded Shot gun, AR, & pistol. DefundCBC defundglobeandmail
GlobeDebate STOP HIRING DOUCHEBAGS
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GlobeDebate If they're asking it now, it will happen eventually. Get ready.
GlobeDebate Toronto 2021.
GlobeDebate I know. Lets take the useless firearm ban and buy back and use that money on mental health and youth. Gotta be 1 billion dollars there.
GlobeDebate Hell no!
GlobeDebate Sounds like a great idea. Just let us have assault weapons and let the chips fall where they may
GlobeDebate No because that’s stupid and counter productive. There’s a reason we don’t let Woke Twitter make policy decisions
GlobeDebate no
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GlobeDebate No, only the lefty nut jobs want that. Oh, and the criminals.
GlobeDebate How about we talk about the daily shootings in Toronto rather than your left wing drivel.
GlobeDebate The budget is disproportionately high. I’m sure some police funding could be redirected into community services and outreach to aid crime prevention- a valid investment is funding youths in our communities to have outlets to be productive, engaged and healthy.
GlobeDebate An ideal society would have little need for police. To get there we must defund the police to nearly zero. Should we defund them by 10% today? Too unsafe. 1% is worth a test. Throw the recovered revenue into public education to begin a virtuous cycle of crime reduction long-term.
GlobeDebate Money spent on police and prisons could be better spent on social workers and community centers.
GlobeDebate No...that’s crazy. Crime is going up in Toronto. We need to increase their funding. I’m always terrified going on the TTC at night and would feel comfortable and safer if police was on board.
GlobeDebate If you defund the police then give us the rights to arm and protect ourselves.
GlobeDebate Are we ready to talk about incredibly disproportionate gun violence and murder from black people in the GTA?
GlobeDebate Would make good less expensive.
GlobeDebate Stop. Are you people crazy! We need law enforcement! Crime would skyrocket.
GlobeDebate Awesome, unchecked drunk driving + no speed limits
GlobeDebate Are we ready to stop behaving like hurt children? Are we ready to stop obsessing over every bad thing that happens somewhere and make it personal? God damn western citizens deserve their decline. Grow up if it was open season on blacks we'd have a bad cop video every day.
GlobeDebate Who actually thinks defunding police is a good idea? What’s the alternative? Stop publishing rubbish.
GlobeDebate Sure, but let's start on a small scale ... let's defund the RCMP security detail that manhandles reporters that Justin Trudeau doesn't want around.
GlobeDebate Are we ready to talk about the prohibition of inflammatory journalism?
GlobeDebate This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. If you want to stop racism be good parents. Teach right from wrong. Teach kids to treat others how they want to be treated.
GlobeDebate Don't defund, de-unionize.
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GlobeDebate Yes, we are ready. It is a terrible idea with little to no empirical support. Here is empirical support for increased police funding.
GlobeDebate Gangbangers can hardly wait
GlobeDebate No, we (the common sense people) are not.
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GlobeDebate Why are you pushing this narrative soo darn hard?
GlobeDebate That’ll end well...
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