Experts have questioned the decision to reopen nightclubs in some parts of the country, as coronavirus cases continue to surge in Victoria and fears about COVID-19 clusters in New South Wales grow.Venues in multiple states have been hit with finesAll nightclubs were forced to close under the nation's first lockdown.
"We were giving every sector of the community the opportunity to trade as viably as possible," he said at the time.Patrons in the Sunshine State are allowed to order drinks at the bar but prevented from dancing or gathering on a dancefloor.like other businesses across the metropolitan area — have had to close amid the surge in outbreaks thereSome SA venues previously operating as nightclubs said they were now functioning under the rules of a bar.
"It sits very comfortably with us and it sends a strong message to remind the rest of the industry that they have to take their responsibilities very seriously." Sydney's The Star casino was fined $5,000 yesterday after a group of people were seen standing and mingling while drinking there on Saturday night.Under current NSW coronavirus restrictions, venues are allowed to welcome an unlimited number of people, as long as they remain seated and maintain a distance of four square metres from each other.A number of parties in the Bondi area were shut down.
Dumb idea .. but a dumber idea to have let the hotels and the gambling clubs put politicians in their pockets in the first place
No not a good idea. Most pub goers are not socially responsible especially when drunk.
Yes it is too soon for venues to be open to the public. The day we accept that social distancing is here to stay (and are practicing it), is the day these venues should be opened.
Its a good idea if you want to spread covid.
No. If we want to stop COVID19Aus spreading and save lives. Yes. If you think drinks and a meal are more important than people getting sick and some dying.
Whenever there are people drinking, we need to have much firmer guidelines as we know people drop their own self protective awareness when affected.
US are closing theirs again I see.
Yes.
Um ... NO.
The answer would be......NO.
Not a good idea, should completely shut down for 2 months like what China did
No
Um, NO, obviously not in light of the consequences. Pretty much gave the kids the keys to the tuckshop, then looked the other way. As you sow, so shall you reap.
Absolutely not a good idea, it’s already coming back to haunt us😩
Nope, as expected.
Yes it was. Shame in some places the usual idiots (both patrons and owners) spoil it for the rest of us.
No!🙄
Sober people aren't socially distancing at the shops - WHY would you expect drunk people to social distance on dance floors
When South Korea started reporting their big outbreak that started with one guy visiting 5 nightclubs, I remember thinking 'Why on earth would they open nightclubs? What a stupid thing to do.' Did not expect our govt to make the same obvious mistake.
Yeh nah
A once in a century pandemic requires a once in a century response. Close the pubs and clubs, and anything else that's not actually 'essential'.
It was at the time.
Opening was fine, not issuing stern warnings backed up with threats of closure to those breaching guidelines wasn't. I worked in a pub that was doing everything to keep people safe, but others just ignored the rules totally.
Maybe we should have put pokies in schools?
No
Was it a good idea? No.
Hard nope
Who's decision was it?... National Cabinets Who was pushing? If its a State decision.. what exactly the point of the National Cabinet other than make the Federal Govt look relevant?🤨
Well surprise surprise, people on the booze forget to social distance... who'd have thunk it?!
Hell no.
No.
We'll see how good the idea is later?
Obviously not!!!
Obviously not
It was way too soon
Nope did they think the 2nd wave would happen more quickly than it did? After all what does anyone know about this virus
Lots of Hornies there
The idea assumed that we are inherently a responsible mob. It forgot that we are also patently self-serving.
No good idea!
sure fine whatever, give everyone the desease that permanently damages your lungs for fleeting economic gains
Obviously not. But the Liberal owned ABC can’t say that, can they?
Economically short term a good idea no doubt pushed along by the political clout of the AHA. Long term not such a good idea. What we are learning is that it only takes one person to set off the Corona Virus equivalent of Australian bushfires. Patrons get drunk so how sensible.
very obviously not
No
In hindsight, no.
A very dumb idea.. as mounting cases show us daily..
The pokies! Right?
Do you not have access to experts?
Yes for smaller pubs. Not clubs. They're harder to regulate and monitor. It keeps the peace with the public. Otherwise sport should be stopped too.
This is INFURIATING! The media and our own Federal government were braying for an end to restrictions. Now look.
Definitely not‼️
nope, but them pokies don't play themselves
No. Not a good idea. Complacency and alcohol (and drugs) go together. Back to lockdown please.
Looked hard at the photo could not see any 90 year olds in the queued or anyone with emphysema dragging a oxygen canister behind them, someone sneezes close the schools, cough there goes our borders, hate to think if you coughed, sneezed and farted...harakiri
No.
You have to ask?
um no
Its too difficult but people things about their self and health don't depends on government action
superspreader is NOT a person it is an event (indoor crowds)
NO NO NO ! Alcohol & Killer viruses don’t MIX. A lot of Australians should be TEETOTAL until we have a VACCINE !
Cronulla_Sharks are advertising the worst behaviour in Australia auspol No mask. Locks up refugees and children. Like, Go the Sharks nrl nrl Is that a good idea for 'family friendly' footy?
🤦♂️
Duh, what do you think?
Yes, let’s acknowledge Covid ain’t leaving and just be smarter not more scared
Stupidity at the best
The beers great and we're cstching up with the mstes and fuk u all whoopee.
Better than going to the Footy maaaaaate, gimme another beer
A joke! For a bit of income for pubs, you allow all these hormone pumped young apathetic people to crowd together, to laugh, smooch and in many cases have sex! THAT is why they are there. THEY know they are 'safe'. Our economy traded for some fun! A (sad) joke!
Perhaps a bit early
Yes it is. We know ABC wants a communist dystopian nightmare. We get that you want to destroy anything good about free society.
Absolutely.
Obviously not but hotels association would have put so much pressure on government to open
It was a bad idea.
Ah yes. Schools with 31 students in a class can open so why not allow adults gather and socialise?
Probably not a good idea to surge on clubs and pubs.
Hell yeah
Appreciate the serious personal and professional consequences Dr. Yan is facing. This hero scientist is taking a life-threatening risk to speak the truth and save the entire world from this possibly the most dangerous challenge we face in human history.
A night club in Murray Street, Perth on Saturday night had people cuing for three city blocks. No social distancing at all. Inside was apparently packed. My daughter was knocked out by someone who had thrown a bottle from the mezzanine. Out of control.
Stupid idea.
Is that a rhetorical question?
Should not be reopened unless the cases report lasts at least one months is Zero in the state.
It’s not opening the pubs, it’s people behaving in a socially responsible manner. Life could continue largely uninterrupted if everyone stuck to the rules. The fact they are blatantly disregarded means more lockdowns are inevitable, means more businesses close, more jobs are lost
No.
Big mistake! Many younger don’t adhere to social distancing from what I’ve seen! Decided can’t do meals anymore at local club which is doing its best. But some visitors are not! Shut pokies! Felt Gladys should’ve tightened rules b4 Vic & NSW school hols! Hunter/New Eng cases?
So what’s her name, the NSW premier is clamping down on pubs again. But not Casinos as reported by you this morning; they are exempt. So why are Casinos exempt from the restrictions when effectively they are just another glorified pub. Can we smell more Lib corruption? auspol
How is that going for you Gladys and Scotty!
Economic recovery with so many active cases in the community ...is a hoax. Sweden never closed down and their economy is just as shit. 🤔
No
NO!
Try to follow up with the example by US ? Good Luck!
Apparently not
No
I think it was good to try but it’s clear that the public and some publicans can’t be trusted to do what’s right and then everyone pays
It never was. People’s lives are more important than a religious adherence to an economy.
Yes. The shut-down strategy is a knee jerk reaction. If we can protect the aged, the rest of the country can open up whilst maintaing social distancing and hygiene. There will be casualties but we accept this in other forms like driving, cycling, obesity, cancer ......
No.
Yes. We all have to learn how to live with this for now. Initial shutdown of the economy and certain buisenesses was justified. We now know more, and have had time to prepare. All buisnesses should open.....but there should be serious penalties where they break COVID restrictions
How many cases?
Yes, said those job creators and ex-member of Reid, Craig Laundy LOL Covid19aus
Reopening pubs was fine. The Andrews Government mismanaging quarantine wasn't.
What about the pubs and clubs in WA or the NT - there is nothing in your report about what’s happening in these.
80% of CV cases are asymptomatic (unaffected) multiple studies confirm this. Or in other words: ONLY 20% of the population can be affected by Covid. 80% are completely unaffected. Why is no-one saying this?
Was it worthy a debate? Typical Aussie mistake.
No
The virus isn't going away ever, how long should things be shut down for?
No
No, ppl under 30 dont care and its all about them
Clearly No! The gov. is worry with economy, learning nothing with what happened in South Korea. those dickheads thinking in short term recovery, it will take longer to stabilise economy and public will loose the trust on safety to go out if keep this “open and closing” policy’s.
Yes
Yes. Our mental health is as important as virus risk.
People it’s a hoax, you watch, Victoria, then NSW, Qld, WA, SA, that’s the order...... cases will grow..... just remember, the symptoms are numerous......
I think they should have kept stage 2 restrictions on pubs longer. Ppl could still have had a meal etc and they could make some money but not a free for all. It needed to be managed well the first time bc if we get 2nd wave that could be even more detrimental to businesses
Yes and no, no without limits yes for economy
Looking at NSW, no.
Like moths to the Corona flame..
I find it amazing to see the immune halo that still covers supermarket workers and protestors But going for a drink bad
Yet another stupid, pointless story
Let’s do some more scaremongering, .
Time 2 get back under the doona!
Yes. People’s livelihoods were at stuck. We need to learn to live with the virus, it’s not going anywhere. Isolate the elderly and those at risk and free the healthy that’s how you build up herd immunity. We have an immune system for a reason....
Security will surely stop Covid-19 at the door?
Pretending that Corona virus is gone, not right choice for any reason.🙅
Well, what control measures eventually got the numbers down in wave 1...? Don’t need a Nobel to answer that. Complacency + ignorance n haste + greed will never suddenly equal Covid immunity. The learnings are all there guys n gals! No excuses now.
Hi ABC news. Did you forget about WA? Mark McGowan stood his ground against bullying from Morrison and Gladys to try and force our borders open. As everyone continued to have fun, we stayed locked down. BUT LOOK AT US NOW. And our borders are still blocked 👍
No of course it's not a good idea
.I would like to know if our PM actually takes this pandemic seriously or if he thinks it's all a 'hoax' like his hero Trump
No
Star Casino will be exempt
Pubs should have managed the traffic better.
Not with dickheads like this.
Bad idea
Liquor industry has too much influence over Govt decision making. Why is it so much more attractive than other less risky, entertainment? Should we legalize social marijuana instead? Would it make a difference to how people socialize?
Alcohol and social distancing 🤔
no...drink at home...Safer
I would say no
Apparently not
ABC channeling its inner Buzzfeed
Probably ok in states with closed borders and no community spread. But when you go back to normal life you go back to normal transmission
dumb idea. the country has a drinking problem.
I love headlines that are questions. I always hope to open the link and just see the answer. 'No.' End of article.
Not a good idea. Likely to cause everything to have to close again.
Dont blame the young you blame the the goverment young ones do what they do and to have goverments open clubs to the public is a time to party and not only did the goverment fail so did the owner for not following rules thats where the problem started back to lockdown
Yes it was. Pubs are great, but people don’t need to drink.
Nope. Nope and Nope 😠
$$$ before public health. Australia is an economy with a parasitic society attached.
Yes but the owners and authorities need to take some responsibility as well
Some pubs doing the right thing. Pub trivia last week. All doors locked except main. Distance maintained at entry. Registered and used hand sanitiser. Tables appropriately distanced. Food delivered to tables to minimise moving around.
No; the grog houses should have been last of all, if at all to reopen.
The government prefer do it than let temporary residents return back even if we are able to pay the quarentines and don't bring any harm for community. letuscomehome
No
What do you think?
No. We need to do this slower. Be more strategic.
Seems we're struggling to accept reality...nothing will change until a vaccine has been developed. Fact is that things will get worse, much worse, just as every pandemic has before this one. This is just the beginning. The worst is still to come.
People are incapable of making smart choices. These minority are why we need police control.
2020 should be a CancelEverything year. No pubs nor anything else!
RIDICULOUS
No. We needed to be more careful for longer....or do offshore quarantine....Hamilton island...Christmas island....raaf and navy bases. Keep it out and slow the spread....then get back to almost normal life
toninicho Covid and grog = recipe for disaster.
Obviously not! Way too anxious to kick start the already flat economy but at what expense?!
are you kidding me is this a rhetorical question
Nope but I'm sure someone will come out and say 'Yeah, that's the benefit of hindsight' 🤦
Clearly not
We need police state to address all these issues
Yes a good idea.
Massage goita have the boozer open. Get on the piss, pass around some COVID, feed the pokies... Glady puts on here worried face....but keep them pubs & clubs open. 💲💲💲B4 people.
Yes it was, mass protests were not a good idea. There's a few bad eggs in every basket. But the politicians did nothing with one particular basket as they lacked the backbone to stand up for our health. auspol COVID19
what a Joke , Star Casino belted with a Feather , 5000 fine , should be 50000 , now Pub s have had Clients cut , but not Clubs & Casino s , you can see where the LNP donors are
Of course not. It's idiotic
Obviously not, looking at the idiots who came out of the woodwork to attend these venues.
No but money talks and bullshit walks....
No
It was not, South Africa has closed all drink venues
Great idea; the virus would never think of infecting anyone at a pub or a club. They have the same immunity as PM`s at the footy & the VIP`s who are impervious once given 'special' status by the PM. He is much smarter than the virus; and just as selective.
Not even sheep line up like that voluntarily 😂🧐
No...obviously 🙄
Very bad idea! Stop large group of public gathering!
Only if they implement distancing properly. But thinking about responsible service obligations as well, it maybe a case that some places put the dollar before health first.
No.
Nope.
As someone in lockdown for the second time...
Mmm think about Victoria ? Just saying..
No
No, but we understand how much influence the AHA and Clubs NSW have with politicians. They couldn't live without poker machine revenue for too long. auspol COVID19Aus
Yes so due to these fools Gym's will close? They must have empty lives needing to go clubbing soooo much.
Aew sheehs that's a big no, tough for pokie owners.
Young people want it to spread obviously. Not only do they get paid more money now it also helps to reduce property prices for them and maybe get them closer to inheritance. It's a win win win.
No not a good idea at all
No
Obviously not
Has the asked ScottMorrisonMP for his opinion
Lock it all down
Yes it was, we are all be coned. Research people don’t listen to this government propaganda mouth piece. businesses should sue the shit out of all of you.
Definately not! Close gambling venues now!
At this point No.. BLM protests should not have been allowed to happened either. Can't control a rolling snowball! ⛔
No. Considering the virus is airborne that is potentially a recipe for disaster. We only have to look at the aftermath of the escalating spike
Unless they are in WA, NO.
Yes, unless you want people to go stark raving mad. We have to learn to live with the virus, not hide from it 24/7. Let's also keep in mind how low the cases/death count is in Oz.
No
Rules and alcohol don't mix. 🤦♂️
no
No. When alcohol and bravado connect in patrons, social distancing and hygiene go out the door.
No
No.
No
Too early. Expect cases to re-emerge & others to flout laws. 🤔Melbourne
No. Next question.
Of course not but it’s always business above health with this fail of a government
No
Again: Australia learns nothing from the rest of the world. Almost seems like there are no outside communications coming in, like there’s a freakin’ wall around the country. You learn nothing.
Mmmyes, but allowing people to gather in demonstrations for some Marxist BLM activism was just fine. StupidLeftards
No. Complete stupidity.
Logic tells us probs not.
Hopefully rhetorical - clearly wasn’t!
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