Sweden hits record for new COVID-19 cases amid warning that herd immunity is not 'ethically justifiable'

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Sweden's chief epidemiologist warns herd immunity not 'ethically justifiable' as the country hits its highest daily case figure since the pandemic began.

Sweden's Health Agency has said the peak during the spring probably ran much higher but went unrecorded due to a lack of testing.

"We're beginning to approach the ceiling for what the healthcare system can handle," Dr Tegnell told a news conference.The Health Agency also moved to tighten pandemic recommendations for regions including Sweden's biggest cities Stockholm and Gothenburg, saying infection rates were rising sharply in these areas.The new tighter local recommendations, already introduced in two regions with surging infections, included advice to avoid indoor environments such as shops and gyms.

Stockholm authorities said separately that the number of COVID-19 patients in need of care in the region had risen about 60 per cent over the past week after a near 80 per cent surge in recorded infections.Sweden's death rate per capita is several times higher than its Nordic neighbours, but lower than some larger European countries, such as Spain and Britain.

 

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AnuruddhaWimal6 Bring the Srilankanarmy, who was working under UN in Haiti to justice.

Someone put this in cartoon form and give it to trump

Wha? You can't have herd immunity without a vaccine, right?

0pp I like

Any news agency that reports cases only is lying by omission and promoting terror. it's a bogus number. Hospitalizations, ICU admissions, deaths, recoveries with better theraputics, etc are news and facts. Cases is meaningless.

This article omits Tegnell's criticisms of lockdowns, and that even countries with very strong lockdowns struggle to contain the disease.

💬Dear Sweden, Y’think? COVIDIOTS

Lies. Anders Tegnell just reached his highest approval rating.

Whoops....

Sweden’s drift to the right has taken a harder turn right!

One critical problem with Sweden's approach has been the underlying assumption that herd immunity is a feasible strategy because there is nothing particularly problematic about Covid-19. We know with hindsight that this virus is full of surprises. Such a gamble was foolish.

'Cases'. Big deal. More bullshit from the ABC.

The face of a man who knows he’s going the The Hague.

but but adam creightin said they were the best!

record but since July the death count has been very low

Get over the fear tactics!! People have woken up about the COVID-19 crap after trump wins it will be over if Biden wins then we are f$&kt

Like they are obliging people to anything...

Stupid idea. This disease is proving itself to be high risk. If you get it it can leave you with long term effects. Immunity is not guaranteed as we know people have caught it twice. It’s irresponsible and arrogant to think this is some great plan.

All_4justice 😳

I was diagnosed w/ non-small-cell lung cancer age 34 (4yrs ago), never smoked, no family history. I've lost ~30% of my orig. lung capacity; it's life changing esp. w/ ongoing fatigue. Long-COVID sufferers are also reporting similar symptoms. Trust me, you do *not* want this.

Cases up deaths not, this has been going on for a while. Have they increased their PCR test threshold, or maybe more people getting tested, or weaker variant of virus

I'm just gobsmacked that it's taken 8-9 months for them realise that unless you have a confirmed working vaccine that herd immunity was unworkable for SARS-CoV-2. Especially when the long-term side effects of COVID-19 are still coming to light.

Sorry what?

MortyAUS 👏🏾 Well done for pointing out that the “right” to leave your house and move freely in public is clearly not ethically justifiable in the face of the incredibly deadly Covid Anyone who disagrees clearly denies science and needs to be re-educated

rowandean auspol

udderrunner BBC news share with france prime minister this is video French When I was 10 years old, I was sitting with my Uncles wife, my Uncles wife farted and she had three children, which we were seated together, the kids started fighting over who farted in fear

jc_cummins srb014 🤗

It's just the Flu people. Wake up! You have been conned by Government and the Media all working towards the 'Great Reset' Agenda. This is just the beginning of your total enslavement unless you wake up and push back against it.

I told you so , dumb bastards

What is the death rate to number of cases I don't think you want to report that That would be inconvenient To actually put stats on the record

are being ridiculous & hysterical. Sweden reached herd immunity almost 6 months ago. Death rate since July is insignificant & way lower normal flu death rate.

This will trigger the nutters. Waiting for nonsense about deaths, infection rates. I won't have to wait long.

Adam *the pretend epidemiologist Creighton should give up his day job

SGM63 In the same story you report a record in new cases then state they were likely much higher in spring when they were not being counted. Australia’s Chief Medic also openly discussed gaining herd immunity via spreading via children.

Let's not EVER forget that this is the 'solution' that the Murdoch media was bullying the likes of DanielAndrewsMP to adopt for us! MurdochRoyalCommission auspol

Oh but I'm accused of having Stockholm syndrome, bc I think Sweden is a disaster.

Not justifiable because herd immunity is still an unknown. Given studies are showing declining antibodies after a month, we’ve not even successfully vaccinated against a coronavirus. Or even the flu. Because they keep changing.

So much for the Swedish model.

pertina1 What’s Damien Drum doing in Sweden?

Unbelievable. Sweden registers 2,820 cases. The UK, Itally and Germany have over 8 - 10 time that and are in perpetual lock down. Sweden never pushed for herd immunity. Rather, protect the weak, trust the rest to act like adults. Rowan was right, you people just don't get It.

Hmmm, who could have possibly seen this coming? Oh, every democracy that shut down to save it's people? That many? Eep, this looks bad, Sweden.

But thats not what Rowan Dean said would happen

It also doesn't work. There is no such thing as 'herd immunity' with COVID19

And does not work

Leigh Sales did a show on Sweden. The same day she talked about Kangaroo Island fuel load and did not mention Climate change.

Has there actually been a case of someone getting the virus twice?

So, Murdoch hacks, it's actually called mass murder and most 'herds' - cattle, sheep and goats - are bred for the table and hence headed for the killing floors of your local abattoir. Nice term, 'herd' and have a nice death.

So much for 'but Sweden'.

So where are all those nutters I've been arguing with for months now?

Over 3 mo since they hit first zero. Deaths/hospitalisations remained flat. Unlike lockdown nations. Sweden now sunk to 16 for deaths p/m & won't be in top 30 by end. That's not taking into accnt hard lockdown US states (if they were countries sweden would barely figure)

Do the non believers know?

Took them a long time to decide about'ethical justifiable.

Click bait

IntestinalWorm Achieving herd immunity against this novel virus was never realistic. To support, & promote it as a possibility, when there was no effective treatment, no cure, or vaccine was, & continues to be, unethical, &, in my opinion, criminal. Those responsible should be held to account.

Second wave of Covid and heard immunity did nothing.

Pick 1. A. Short term pain, band-aid off, get on with life. Sadly old, infirm, comorbid die. B. Protracted pain, lockdown, hysteria, economic hardship, mental health epidemic, deaths reaches same no but takes longer to get there. Their 1 mistake was not protecting vulnerable.

Imagine if Victoria had over 2,000 new cases yesterday! Doesn't bear thinking about does it?

JaneCaro Nor even possible. Latest figures from UK show number of people with antibodies is down even though cases are way up. So much for that.....

If ABC reporters were losing their jobs, houses, businesses and sanity - having their lives destroyed - do you think they would have a different perspective? Do you think that they would then report more about the negative effects of lockdowns or that WHO is against lockdowns?

goodfoodgal how's that 'we should follow Sweden' theory going for you? Still hanging on to it or have you decided to forget you ever suggested it?

JaneCaro Not medically sound either

Sweden's per capita rate is still better than many places with full lockdowns.

Casedemic. Cases wrong measure, try deaths

Gee .. if only they had heeded the ethically justifiable, lock it down early strategy..

If herd immunity works for Sweden then why is it not ethical. Don’t we also use herd immunity for flu and other communicable diseases. Who makes you the judge?

Has anyone told Creighton?

More ABC fake news. Facts below 👇

They are coming into winter. More things to consider than virus cases alone .

Cases, huh. How’s Sweden’s death rate going? Let’s consult the WHO stats site. It’s in the ‘noise level’. Zero deaths for the last two days, and bugger all for the last couple of months. What’s the REAL agenda here?

CASES ARE NOT DEATHS

What is ethical anyway? Locking people to the point of depression, destroying the economy and livelihoods on millions? Violating human rights? Depends on your lens, I guess?

stanley_radio

Surely Rowan Dean didn’t get it wrong?!?!?

Talk about the death rate compared to countries that locked down and mandated masks! WHY DON'T YOU MARXISTS TELL THE WHILE STORY JUST ONCE

COVID 19 Immunity is not sustained so herd immunity may never apply & an effective safe vaccine is not guaranteed. A death rate over 2% overall and over 10% in some demographics. Unknown long term effects on all those infected. LET’S TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY

Paging 'Dr' Adam Creighton.

denniallen KobieThatcher

Adam_Creighton Near 2k cases & 7 deaths yesterday. Well done buddy. 1000s in hospital.

northway_debbie Adam Creighton will be devastated.

It’s a virus - not a death sentence 99.89% recovery!

If Corona isn't about beer, how come I keep seeing cases of it?

__njoku

denniallen Shout out to Joe whom I have been having some Twitter conversation with. Sweden has just disowned herd mentality to fight Covid 19, you can see why in this ABC report.

fakenews better then lockdowns. They come out of this faster then any country while australia will be in and out of lockdown for nexr 4-5 years aleast.

But the murdoch wrags were using Sweden as the world leader in Covid prevention

Oh the irony - or is it hypocrisy? The guy now saying that chasing herd immunity in Sweden is not ethical is the same guy who was pushing it all along. Their deaths are about 7 times higher than Australia’s, but their population is only 10m vs our 25m. Their economy is way worse!

Stop with your anti-Sweden propaganda. Sweden's approach is the only sensible way.

It's important to differentiate between cases and deaths and more importantly death rates. Also look into which demographics it affects and what percentage have pre-existing conditions. When you see 'cases cases cases' you know it's leftist propaganda to subvert to true picture.

Someone please call the white house & let them know...ask for Dr.Atlas

There’s no doubt 🇸🇪 made huge miscalculations at the start. Ethical, PPE, masks. But the title is misleading, can someone please take Jun to Nov into consideration? Or explain this:

No you don't say ?

Sweden as the model for dealing with covid is going to be as redundant as that 'no warming since 1998' meme the RW have gone quiet about recently.

Wow, let’s read all about the pants and bed wetters afraid of a virus.

We seem to know so much about Sweden that when I talk to my cousin who lives there, I found her bemused...

'cases'

They haven't been locked down, so an outbreak was inevitable with the number of cases around Europe. I guess they could lockdown till there's a vaccine, that's the preferred strategy for some. 🤷‍♂️

It may well be that post-infection immunity is no sustained based on the persistence of antibodies. In that case, herd immunity will simply not apply.

Deaths aren't up. Cases are irrelevant. It depends who the cases are.

Ah shaddup with your propaganda and misinformation. What price Journalism...? scamdemic Plandemic

But, but, Sweden....

The question we don’t know yet about this virus is if herd immunity is even possible. The virus mutates and the duration of immunity after infected is still not known. The long term damage to other organs is also not known. We all should be careful about this fast spreading virus

Herd Immunity actually means a very large number of people suffering from COVID-19 health effects (Long COVID) & a very large number of deaths. Swedens COVID-19 approach was/is both flawed & arrogant. It was really based on the idea that Swedes are somehow smarter, better.

Aside from Taiwan no country was prepared to protect the elderly and vulnerable when virus hit including Sweden. Let's see how many deaths they have with these new cases, tipping they've learnt and put protections in.

This is the part of the movie where after ignoring the scientist warnings, things go pear-shaped.

Sweden seems to be proving that endless cycles of opening and closing are NOT the answer. Their numbers are better than most of Europe which is now in their second lockdown with no end in sight.

Wow, imagine needing to be told that letting thousands of people die is maybe a bit unethical.

Cases, Cases, Cases, oh government please save us with your wisdom, please lock us all down and take away our rights.

THIS is why Dan Andrews was right!!!!!

So winter has rolled in and people are getting sick

This should be the end of the argument for the Swedish pandemic approach but I’m sure covidiots like Adam_Creighton will still sing it’s praises.

Swedish aged care workers were literally banned from using masks, it killed so many of their elderly people, and now its not ethically justifiable Heads must roll for this - it wasn't neglect, it was murder.

political_alert RT

What happened ? Where are the Adam Creighton's, who were trumpeting Sweden as the shining light. People need to get their stupid heads around Cov-19, this virus is not understood, there is no cure, no working vaccine. Isolation is the only weapon that works.

But SkyNewsAust and the theheraldsun told me Sweden were the gold standard in handling the pandemic. I am just so shocked that they were wrong 🙄🙄. MurdochFreeMelbourne MurdochRoyalCommission NewsCorpse NoBeersForNewsCorp

In other news, the FBI has confirmed Hunter Biden and his associates have been under an active criminal investigation since 2019, WOW!!!.

Wow who could have known that! 🙄🦠

ButBut but Sweden’s the bench Mark for howto fight coronavirus.

Cases or deaths?

Lol ABC 😂 herd immunity is how ALL epidemics in human history and prehistory have ended. Here is your 'Swedish disaster' -- deaths and ICU admissions are flat. As elsewhere in Europe, the 'second wave' is nothing like the first wave.

Did you actually interview him or are you just repeating another news article?

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