Qantas can stop sick pay during pandemic, Federal Court rules

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BREAKING: Qantas has won the right to not pay staff sick pay, including a cancer sufferer, while they are stood down during the coronavirus pandemic. 9News

, including a cancer sufferer, while they are stood down during the coronavirus pandemic.

The Federal Court today ruled in the airline's favour, after the union had tried to argue the Qantas position on sick pay was unfair. The Transport Workers Union is considering an appeal and described the court's decision as "bitterly disappointing".domestic and international routes were shut down by the coronavirusA man battling cancer and another awaiting a triple bypass are among Qantas staff who receive sick pay, the TWU claimed. Both men had worked at Qantas for more than 30 years.

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Everyone walk off the job and refuse to work for a rotten company like this

Qantas are all take and no give.

C’mon Virgin! You have a customer - regardless of Qantas/Jetstar promotions - if you can get it together. Qantas is run by a man who has the same thinking as BA and RyanAir chiefs. F*** the crew and f*** the customer

But will make the CEO get more Mills in his pocket by screwing them

Cases drop just a little and Qantas is immediately back on its bullshit.

Wake up Australians that are trying to defend Qantas. If virgin aus do anything like this you don’t get so defensive. Apples for apples.

Assholes,,

Once again the big end of town diminishing the entitlements of everyday hard workers. Shame on QANTAS.

Aaaaaaand I'll never fly Qantas again. No way I'm giving my money to a company that couldn't give a damn about its staff. Fuck the corporate assholes sitting behind their mahogany desks!!!! They aren't the ones with their boots on the ground doing the damn work! BoycottQantas

Wow Qantas....

mary_tambling63 That's how it should be. I can't wait for mother earth to only sustain top 1% of the crowd in each country.

RomanaQ Just proves Alan and his mates can buy anything

Disgraceful. They got a giant handout. They can afford it.

Makes you proud to be Australian aye? Typical.

Keep Virgin -get stuffed Qantas unionsaustralia sallymcmanus

Caring and sharing.

Sickening

Fucking disgusting.

who the fuck gave them the win?!

Nationalise them and fire the entire executive team.

THE FLYING KANGAROO IS A JERK. QantasUSA

What lot bloody bull shit when bloody CEO on bloody big money does nothing

This effects not just these poor Qantas staff. It means anyone stood down is not eligible to take their accrued sick leave.

Cannot fathom this behaviour.

MadFckingWitch Bldy disgraceful

If Alan Joyce was even half human he would have looked after his long term ill employees without question and without dragging it through the courts. EVIL little cocksucker.

So where did the Taxpayer money go that Morrison handed over.

And how many millions is Alan Joyce still taking home?

Qantas seriously? If you think this is ok then that’s really disgusting.

Time to stop flying with Qantas anywhere period 🙅🏻‍♂️

Fuck Qantas!

Disgusting 😡

No longer the flying kangaroo; now the kangaroo that bends sick staff over a log &... simply ignores them.

boycottQantas flyVirgin.

What about the bailout

Fuck this airline. Grubs.

Simply immoral

Crappy corporate citizens

Joyce too?

That’s heartless.

Disgusting

But we can give them $700m for free huh?

But they do take public money?

Wtf. Our taxes bailed them out! Ffs, pay your staff.

Poor way to treat loyal staff

Privatise profits, socialise losses

And we give them how much subsidy - time for a subsidy 🪓

Disgraceful

The government always values employers more than people. The Jobkeeper payment as well.

Garbage company.....let it fold

Disgusting behaviour by a global airline!

What assholes!!! Why did my taxes bail them out for?

How is this legally possible?

He is just a little grub

Since when is 'not paying staff sick pay' a 'right'? Last I checked, wealth wasn't a right. Health was. Those aren't even next to each other on the keyboard.

That’s appalling. Qantas values: “Qantas’ values support the vision ‘to be a great airline that champion’s the Spirit of Australia’” Really?!

Extremely disappointing .As a life time supporter of the airline this is callous. Loyalty is worth more than financial gain and support will diminish.

Well yeah? They get jobkeeper like everyone else lol

That is shameful. 😡

😳😳😭😭😭

Imagine how the employee feels who worked there for over 30 years thinking he would be taken care of if something went wrong, it’s not his fault there is a pandemic on and not his fault he has cancer either. How stressful.

CUNTAS

Who was the Judge?

This is NOT the spirit of Australia !

Does that mean they'll actually offer refunds instead of credits for cancelled trips?

If Qantas can do. Its take off for anyone to do it. Privatization. Upholding the devils work since 1993.

Ah, team Australia seems to be a very small team.

Appeal !

Fuckin wrong.

Qantas,,, queer and nasty try another service

And when a worker turns up to work with Covid and the economy shuts down again, no doubt it’ll cost far more than just giving them sick leave in the first place. But that’s the cost we’ll wear, not Qantas neoliberalpolitics corrupttothecore

TWUAus I will take great pleasure not flying with this mongrel company ever again.

How is this fair?

Qantas be like ....

This the mob ABBOTT propped up!! 'JOYCE' something you find under your shoe!! BRING back VIRGIN please!! 🤪🤪🤪👇😡

How much is Alan Joyce being paid again?

But Alan Joyce is happy to be paid $24m a year 👍🏻

Qantas shareholders & the Irish Jig are only looking out for themselves...

Whilst the greedy little Irish man keeps his $22 million?

the wrong airline went bust

How UN-australian 🤬🤬

We should only have one major carrier in Australia Virgin

Qantas And you expect me to support you

Poor form Qantas timetoboycott

Will fly ANY OTHER CARRIER in future. Thanks Qantas for your excellent use of taxpayer subsidy. Maybe you should go down, too.

Shame on you qantas

It's only going to get worse under ScottMorrisonMP !!!!

Does this mean 'I rather walk'🚶

INDIA USA RUSSIA CHINA do NOT know what is ECONOMY & I am doubting USA RUSSIA INDIA already divided ? they think ONLY GOODS IS ECONOMY ? better AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND increase the CHARGE for immigration UPON THESE 4 nations ? I am doubting SOME MOON GANG by CRIMINALS 1 GRADE? UM*&

They shouldn’t need or seek approval for the cancer situation, they should just do it. So many positive stories coming out of the present climate but this is up with the worst.

Alan Joyce is pure evil BoycottQantas

While critical of local govt for other reasons - it's too focused on unnecessary, costly mega projects - StonningtonNews has had gent with severe illness on payroll. To its credit, kept on paying. Hypocrisy of Qantas preaching to us on other matters. auspol theheraldsun

I hope Virgin finds a new owner so we can all fly with them instead

yeah man / what is that cheap right to GREAT QANTAS ? atleast someone else will be working instead of the SICK person & will take pay ? do BUY THE BEST OF PLANES as INDIA USA RUSSIA CHINA look hopeless in administration ? does GBR has the right to PREPARE PLANES ? um* CBI * AUD *

Fuck you Qantas I mean it isn’t like I’d chose to fly you over other carriers but this settles even the odd remote chance you had of that

That’s it..never flying Qantas again. They suck!

Let’s hope Virgin still flys! I know who I’ll be flying with.

Disgusting behavior!!

Revolting CEO Alan Joyce who earns millions every year behind this. One of their workers is battling cancer and not entitled to sick pay now.

Typical CEOs who are many of them are psycopaths. Mentally and psychologically proven. They don’t give a crap about anyone but themselves.

that's not a win, that's a crime.

I’ll never fly QANTAS again

Fuck Qantas !!

so industrial relations is totally gone Workers' rights too

Nationalise Qantas. auspol COVID19Aus ausecon

So what exactly did we bail them out for?

Should go further if needed. I cannot understand the Judges, can anyone?

That is disgusting. I’ll remember that QANTAS. Bastards.

I could be wrong when I was involved in employment law I recall seeing something along the lines of an empl not required to pay more than the std sick leave entl in one year if they don't want even if employees have accruals rolled over each year & not payable upon termination.

Was the pie chucker ahead of his time?

Use another airline what a shithouse organisation

The federal court seems to have been corrupted as well by this vile lnp regime.😡

C*NTS

Simples, don't fly Quantas.🖕

Remind me to never fly Qantas

Joyce... You're embarrassing us Poofters...

Pathetic. That little Irish capitalist. Go back home.

Why dose this shit happen really why do humans have to be like this

How else can Joyce afford to pay himself a measly $18m for 2020? Cash4Equity

Asher_Wolf Qantas can get in the bin 🤬

These would be all the staff that too pay reduction to help keep the company afloat... who needs sick pay right now anyway... it's only a pandemic!

I doubt whether job keeper will cover medical treatment costs or maintain private health insurance. Why let it go to court qantas, you could of just quietly helped a couple of loyal employees. I certainly agree not paying every swinging dick sick leave who may only have a cold.

I never use them

Qantas lost me as a passenger and shareholder.

WTF DISGUSTING.

The Australian taxpayers gave Qantas $hundreds of millions in March to help them during this pandemic. Qantas then put off 20,000 staff who now cannot access their sick pay. On the surface it seems inexcusable that Qantas took this matter to court.

I'm sure the leprechaun is doing fine! Grub

Doesn’t Alan Joyce take home about $25m a year as CEO? WTF ScottMorrisonMP

What fresh hell is this? 🤬

Besides this happening..it goes to show that all these big companies are just running a ponzi scheme. So as nobody gets on at the bottom then the scheme crumbles and everyone loses everything Qantas

All 20,000 of them had better not vote LNP in 2 years.

So Qantas goes begging for a bail out but won’t pay sick leave to a cancer sufferer. Not a good look.

Rather walk than fly with this horrid airline.

Thats evil

Qantas has a history of poor and unethical behaviour towards its staff. This is just another pathetic example of a company with no moral compass. You think the ceo would forgo part of his obscene income to support his staff. He has always been a poor leader

F THEM.

Pathetic

FatherBob It would be helpful if you could please report the whole story accurately

They're all in this together.

WHAT?! Okay if we didn't have enough proof already that IR laws are WAY too in employers favour we do now, also boycottQantas

We're all in this together

Well there's an airline I'll avoid using henceforth.

It would be counter-intuitive for the LNP to see Qantas squandering their bailout monies on the health and sustenance of their employees after all, as new unemployed they don't rate and will soon not be able to afford private health insurance, so the public system 'is there'.

Sad we once owned something worthwhile and sold it.

If ya haveago, ya gettago

AnthonyCole68 Noooooooooooooooooooo!

Hard to be proud of that win Qantas

And yet QANTAS can can pay 24 million for their CEO. Nothing at all fair there

veggie64_leslie Turn all the grounded repossessed planes into cottages for the homeless...

Wow how to screw your employees in a crisis

Imagine flying with Qantas. I'm sure they made everyone proud with their virtue signalling through GayRights BoycottQantas

Sounds fair. It's not their fault the business can't operate. I feel for the employees but there is no work to be sick from

Asher_Wolf Qantas got their $715 million on day 1.They then dumped 20,000 workers onto welfare to be supported by the very tax-payer that has just shelled out $m's to keep QANTAS afloat. And now this. It's time for QANTAS to hand over the keys.

ElaineM11584892 this is how the liebrats treat workers, hiding behind their stacked panels & tribunals!

That’s tough

$715m of taxpayer money well spent ! Heckuva job LiberalAus The_Nationals

Cabin crews are only paid once the airplane doors are closed for takeoff & opens (stops) landed. It’s part of most airline policy contract the company isn’t liable for personal health status. Your only paid to work.

I hope Virgin finds funding. I don't wish to support an airline that cannot support its employees with life threatening illnesses.

I seriously don't know why you lot are all outraged! Why should they be paying stood down workers sick leave when they are not sick, or have run out of leave?!?!

How good is Australia!

A country run by criminals and sociopaths with a corrupt media mouthpiece. Might is Right. This is what is happening right now and the cull hasn't even started in earnest. I see dumb people. I bet this makes the CEO very gay.

That's the spirit Qantas,could you get any more un Australian if you tried Qantas the spirit of Australia...what a joke.

So CEO,Top end Executives,1.9 billion in cash 4 billion in assets say they can't pay their workers sick pay and they won that right...Well this is one evil ruling.

Shame on you

This can't be true, there has to be more to the story. If not, this is outrageous and he must go or the airline will loose a lot of great staff.

Why do people think they are entitled to sick pay lol

They are getting paid $1100 a fortnight whether they are sick or they aren’t... why would qantas or any other business need to pay Sick Pay? Mental article.

Wow

Same thing happens in government during a stand down period. No personal leave paid

Rex all the way _Hempy17 Rype_01

Discusting

The fact they fought fo rthat.... disgusting

Cruel

Feel sorry for those people and staff who work for this company and will not be paid. Question still remains how was this right given to Qantas and how many other companies will follow his.

Team Australia 😂😂😂😂

CFMEUJohnSetka

Dogs

That is ridiculous it’s like spitting in their faces

Un-Australian!!!

How wrong is that Joyce Get rid of him now before all hell breaks lose

LeGrandeWee

If they are receiving job keeper then it should be a problem. There not losing their sick days?

Can’t look after loyal customers and can’t even look after loyal staff ....disgraceful Qantas

That's an utter disgrace,

Not a good advert for Qantas. But then, who wants to fly with them now?

Just keep in mind they are all getting JobKeeper atm. If they are not going into work, why would they need sick pay? What do they need to take a day off from?

Tight arsed bastards ☹️

our PRIME MINISTER looks as innocent as MOTHER EARTH ? better MAINTAIN big accounts for all Australian NEWS MEDIA INCL ABC 700 SYDNEY beside hungry jacks ? or MC DONALDS ? I know aus feel SHY but here WAR 7 going on & operations NEEDED or else UR WIFE is stolen ? um* CBI * AUD *&

Don’t forget employees are trying to be clever. They trying to get more money on top of the job keepers payment. This is an ideal situation for them to exploit the employers and misuse the government funds. However, they should have an exemption for the cancer patient.

...and will they AlanJoyceCEO? If it does, Qantas will have gone from the pride of Australia to just another grubby, greedy corporate entity Happy to receive a handout from the public purse but not willing to support staff sick with cancer AusPol

I assume it's not 'lost', just can't be used during stand down ? This is why being contract is better than staff

even I was the best spinner at AGE 12 / at ST MATTHEWS PUBLIC SCHOOL / Vijayawada / Krishna district Andhra /I feel BETTER WE GIVE IT A GO FOR all nations / WORLD fashion industry ? jobs & CASH is also the main criteria & the political actually with TRILLIONS OF POUNDS? um* cbi*

A disgrace to human race and loss of humanity caused by corporate greed.

even I was the best spinner at AGE 12 / at ST MATTHEWS PUBLIC SCHOOL / Vijayawada / Krishna district Andhra /I feel BETTER WE GIVE IT A GO FOR all nations / WORLD fashion industry ? jobs & CASH is also the main criteria & the political actually with TRILLIONS OF POUNDS? um* cbi*

Unbelievably wrong AlanJoyce Qantas . Shame on you! SHAMEFUL

Not the type of company I would want to work for at all

even I was the best spinner at AGE 12 / at ST MATTHEWS PUBLIC SCHOOL / Vijayawada / Krishna district Andhra /I feel BETTER WE GIVE IT A GO FOR all nations / WORLD fashion industry ? jobs & CASH is also the main criteria & the political actually with TRILLIONS OF POUNDS? um* cbi*

What an absolute DISGRACE Qantas How do you sleep at night AlanJoyce ? qantas The spirit of screwing Australia!!’ 😡😡😡😡

Shitty move...

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