Someone please have the balls to call for a vote in no confidence in this mob. Election now!
Boats never stopped they were just pushed back out of territorial waters to their they'll just let a few in and blame Labor.
No that’s rubbish, we want him to be our new PM , Australians are done with the psychopaths running the country. The scaremongering won’t work this time.
WHY?
This article rests on the premise that arrivals have been, and will continue to be, reported honestly by the Govt. problem is no one believes them.
AND if labour have actually been secretly running the country since 2013 since every single good thing that happens in parliament is their fault, can’t we just make it official already?
Also isn’t everyone just sick to death of the stupid stop the boats nonsense. Don’t we have bigger things effecting our safety health and well-being than a bunch of desperate people coming on leaky boats asking for our help When will this stupid slogan not be a thing 🤮
Still doesn’t get that whatever happens until May is actually the responsibility of the LNP. Anyone told them they are still supposed to be governing the country
Seriously!
Oh, get in the bin.
Hmmm - did Shorten REALLY think embarrassing the Govt who was trying to stop a Bill the majority of Australians would also oppose, was tactically smarter than risking restarting the people smuggling program?
Sorry Bill but all they need to do now is injure themselves and they come here very easy to do. Why are we responsible for them they chose to come here, they had the money for the boat trip so in my mind they are not desperate.
There's a few good men in the Morrison government we need to get rid of the others,
This is not a story, it's ABC being pro LNP as per usual.
When the noat did come they were seasonal. So if they come its because of the weather and calmer oceans not because of Shorten or morrison
Australia's law and order systems get exploited by those wanting to migrate by the back door.
Only if the government were competent enough to capitalise on it, but time and again they show us they couldn’t organise a good time in a house full of nocturnal ladies of easy virtue! auspol
FFS 😡 The boats have not stopped, the media stopped reporting them. If any boats arrive before the next election then the responsibility lies solely with the government. Stop taking Australians for mugs
It will just mean sovereign borders failed
While the LNP are the government they are responsible for border security, the medivac legislation doesn't change that. The 'coincidence' of any boats getting through now will need to be reported with the scepticism it deserves. I won't hold my breath.
andrewprobyn analysis? FFS Government says boats stopped suddenly they start arriving? Maybe because Dutton and Morrison has let them through. Mate if you think Shorten wears that then you need to rethink yr career. Do U know bill is only ABR Manus and Nauru? Medivacbill
You guys to shorten shorten shorten stop doing LNP's work for them
The new rules only apply to the people who are Manus and Nauru now, not any newcomers by boats.
Mr. Probyn from the once great ABC. Your analytical skills are not sharp. Reminiscent of a lick spittle tin tookie.
If its a test for Labor then its also a test for the cross benchers too. Works both ways
Did Dutton write this analysis for you?
As the LNP have wasted billions on border protection how can that be Bill Shorten's fault? Who is running the government? Is is Labor? No. Therefore consequences are all on LNP's head.
What bullshit. If anything labor caved more on its policies. Labor will not win the next election, guaranteed he won't
My analogy, what if it’s a delebrate game by Liberals-to show & to demonstrate what they‘ve been shouting for-bring in the boats in within this 3 months & blame the labor more-to ensure they get elected-‘first boat’s on Bill Shorten’ that’s a quick come back after the result.
1.6million guest workers here. are they all going to go home when they're Visas expire ,the lurking monster the lnp have created with their cheap labour schemes.
Hey , I think you mean OPINION.
It won't. The MSM no longer controls what we know, they can try but that era is long gone. We all know that if a boat arrives now it is because the government wanted it to.
And we want to know how much of our taxes were paid to the people smugglers.
The boats still arrive but we just don't hear about them because the devious LNP won't allow any reporting of it. Seeking asylum is not a crime and I'm tired of our media doing the LNPs bidding on this issue.
Probyn's seriously so thick that he can't see who would be responsible for new boat arrivals?
Now for a vote of no confidence, and then we can get rid of these inhumane grubs.
Yes the bill passed but the government hasn't changed & they won't be in any hurry to do anything. Up until the next election the scare campaign will go into overdrive from the government
seriously this is what abc got out of yesterday how about doing story about cutting back of patrol boats due to gross incompetency of people running the show nuh we all know abc has been cowered into submission time to go abc
Phelps Bill could be a massive gift to Morrison, as you can be sure, the government will be notifying us all when people smuggling boats start leaving offshore ports.
Hey Andrew do you just make things up on the run? Write what you want? The law effects only those that are there now! So you come by boat, your still off to an island that isn’t Australia. Turn back still happens. Ffs report facts not what’s on the back of a coco box.
Literally NOTHING has changed for border security because of medivac bill. But who knows what operational shenanigans Dutton and Morrison are up to to engineer an “on water” disaster?
The Coalition Government controls Border Force and secures our borders while they remain in power. Australia remains an incredibly hostile destination for refugees. Dutton’s rabid claims a boat will suddenly turn up underscores possibility he’ll relax border control purposely.
This is rubbish 'analysis'.
If you read the correspondence this treasonous pos Morrison had with the Banks before and during the Royal Commission you would want to see him publicly tried and executed.
What’s the bet that Australian Border Force, who’ve been turning boats back for years, will let a few through in retaliation for this Coalition “loss” on medical transfers? AusPol
andrewprobyn where are your comments about the deaths and horrendus conditions in the camps. Your shallow critique lacks balance, shows bias and demonstrates your already exposed capacity to not be able to tell the truth!
The ABC needs to have a good look at itself and stop pandering to Morrison and Co. Start reporting that the Bill is only to help chronically sick people and it does include new arrivals. Do the decent thing.
Andrew, your position that boats coming are a test of Bill’s character is such a woeful assessment. Boats come because there are so many desperate people, gov’t policy does not stop them. Compassion should rule for all govt’s.
Border Security is BS! 😜
Pretty poor 'Analysis' from Andrew Probyn. If any boats arrive it will be Morrison/Dutton who arrange them. 800 refugees already medically evacuated in Australia and boats haven't appeared - destroys Morrison's 'argument'. Shorten quiet clever coup.
I will be thinking very crtitically if a boat arrives between now and the election and under what circumstances it arrived.
Lol... billshortenmp is not the PM. AustralianLabor is NOT in government... YET. Stop this bullshit and call it what it is, not what it's not. We the people can see an smell BS. notfools
Just wait until labor becomes the leading party and have the libs as their opposition. It will be interesting watching someone sift through the union corruption and especially the illegal Victorian state election funds used to win Dan Andrews campaign.
When are ABCNEWS gonna report on paladin, the indonesia connection, and the money laundering? Or is reporting on government corruption, a definite budget cut guarantee? Asking for 24million Australians that should know what the lnp gov is spending taxes on.
Very very disappointed with this so called ABC analysis. Who is putting this crap together down in Ultimo?
Jesus wept ... what a load of bollocks. Right out of the LNP Propaganda production line. You can almost see Peta Credlin fingerprints if you look close enough. The days of ‘stop the boats’ and vilifying refugees as criminals are OVER MSMfail auspol Election2019
Im sure if a boat did arrive the ABC will be down there handing out boiled sweets
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This is not analyst. It is simply regurgitating the government uncritically.
Great - but LNP don’t get smug - you still have a lot of work to do to lessen the burden of tax in this country
Wouldn’t it be amazing if the LNP could make this possibility eventuate!
THE BOATS HAVEN'T STOPPED! WHEN are the msm going to report honestly on that? if boats start arriving, the LNP is letting them through. wake up and do your job abc 🙄
Be careful of drastic policies - 2000 innocent refugees already drowned. 1 more boat,1 drowning, the nation will be so sad. 1 desperate refugee ,desperate enough to self mutilate, forcing docs to transfer them to the mainland, no innocent Australian have to wear the blame.
The public did not vote it was the ,yes party seats and independents .
What’s the bet a number of boats will now miraculously make it ashore to be greeted by a Murdoch press hack
If any new boats arrive it's an on water matter. The current policy is that it should not be discussed or covered like the last 5 years! Why should it now be Labor's responsibility?
how this bloke was let out of WA is beyond me....is this what passes for 'analysis' at our ABC? the boats haven't stopped, you dill.......
Abc is renami g to lnp
I can't understand why Andrew Probyn is still sucking up to the LNP when they tried to hang him.
That's not ANALYSIS It is uneducated dribble. The boats have not stopped. We know of a minimum of 33 boats that have been turned back. We don't know how many people 'drowned at sea' because of those turn backs. Political hostages do not stop boats.
Wow abc, really?
Nah mate ...ya just have to not report them for 6 years. Easy
Jesus this bill does not remove the control of assets from the govt. If boats do get through it will be the responsibility of the govt. Shorten is opposition leader. Not PM. auspol
Why would the boats start if patrols still turning back boats. The medivac only applies to those currently onNauru not new arrivals .
Can't wait for TheirABC to re-open this one, now Labor and the Greenfilthare in charge of border security … Operation Sovereign Borders: log of boat arrivals and other asylum seeker incidents
The current government remains responsible until May - get in the bin, ABC
You forget they did not stop - desperate people still flee hence turnbacks ...
The only way a boat will arrive is if Dutton allows it through. He has lied too often for any of us to believe anything he says anymore. TheBoatsNeverStopped quaedvliegs
Thanks to Turdbull
Only if they tell the navy to take it easy, haven’t they had their fuel cut already?
I am surprised at billshortenmp's political naivety. The bill means absolutely nothing. It may even not be legal. Nevertheless it will almost certainly cause a major election damage .
How do you know that the Gov would let one boat in on purpose. Just saying.
Shorten acted in a sensitive way & about time. The LNP govt. has consistently told us that they don't discuss on-sea work of border security so if by some bad luck there's a new arrival they'll change their practices to publicly blame Labor. Sounds like dirty tricks are coming.
I reckon that only the hard core rusted on conservative supporters would believe that any boat arriving in next few months was the result of the legislation. Most of us would see the hand of Dutton turning on the tap for political gain.
Deflecting much ABC.? We expect better from you
This article makes the base assumption that our maritime security was ever a major issue in the first place, effectively implying that the Coalition's stance that they have 'stopped the boats' is a fact and not a gross lie, hidden behind reporting bans and threats of criminality.
The boats are still coming. They weren’t stopped. When will you foolish, ahem...journalists get it?
I'm astonished how the Coalition and the media continue to underestimate Shorten. Again he has demonstrated his quiet determination and gets the job done against all the odds. Mr Shouty should take some lessons from him.
Until today hell would have frozen over before I’d vote Labour. Today it’s an option
Any boats that get through now are Dutton's responsibility. Shorten is not PM. Any people on boats from now on are not covered by this legislation change. The only thing weakened by this is Morrison's hold on government.
Seeing as it is the LNP who are currently controlling our borders, if any boats do happen to be let through prior to the election this must be on them not the ALP.
Shorten's Tampa MediVacBill auspol
Bullshit! Stop participating on the scare campaign. Proper contingencies have been considered and rules built in. Whyt are you running the LNP fear line?
drivel: if a boat arrives that would be a failure of the current policy and of those who manage it, you dolt ...
Does it matter to any opinion writers and journos the fact that 'the boats' never stopped? They just get turned back, this is public knowledge. So all this grandstanding over 'stopping the boats' is (racist) political theatre.
If any new boats arrive they are not covered by the new arrangement. Simple.
So if ScumMo and Potato Dutton allow some boats through....
the worst possible outcome for billshortenmp . i can guarantee a boat arrival before the next election.
The Murdoch press are going for Shorten’s blood over this. ABC, Fairfax and Guardian will shame Labor from the right and left, while showering the Greens and independents with praise Labor will win and show they’re all irrelevant auspol
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