New Zealand had been looking like it had won the fight against coronavirus with its tough strategy of eliminating community transmission but the emergence of a few new cases has sent parts of the country back into lockdown.
The list of countries that have not reported a case is short, and for most, there are good reasons why. Pacific countries have to deal with additional challenges including slow internet, extremely high operational costs and infrequent transport links, and so some were among the first to impose measures to contain the spread of the outbreak, like restricting entry from coronavirus hotspots.
But authorities here need to pay more attention to how those other countries have kept the virus out, Mr Bowtell said. "The sequence of the virus from the current outbreak is not the same as the sequences from community cases in our first original outbreak in New Zealand.On August 9, New Zealand marked a 100 days of being free from coronavirus and people were briefly able to return to mass gatherings.
"When a case of coronavirus turns up, probably through problems with quarantine and isolation, you move as swiftly as possible and you clobber those cases," he said.He also cautioned against taking an approach more like those seen in the US or Brazil, where economic concerns have prevailed over public health measures.What can Australia learn from overseas?
Wuhan is dancing. What’s going on? We are so stupid.
Any country can succeed In elimination BUT it comes at a massive cost. It’s determining if that cost is worth it. That is why no Country To date has ever bothered to attempt it for the flu. Concern is will any eliminated country/state open their borders Ever again?
How can you eliminate a virus, we don't even have a vaccine yet, no body should be complacent under any circumstances.
Long term, no. COVID-19 is now endemic in humans.
No one has failed. The virus mutated to exist, that’s what viruses do. So now we know that incubation periods could be months long. The viral side effects are deteriorating brain matter and creating nerve damage to the body as well as Pnumonia, so we must remain in shutdown.👍🏼
Not without eliminating the Queene!!! 🐉
Sweden Used the proven method used by humans for generations ....herd immunity. Some restrictions, no mass lock downs, vulnerable cared for and no destruction of the economy.....
If New Zealand, which is also an island nation, fails, other countries may find it difficult. But the southern hemisphere is winter now, which may be one of the causes.🤔
Sri Lanka 🇱🇰
Yes, eventually.
h_appleby Nope, she's still the PM.
I guess we'll only know, if other countries start trying to.
NataleeJewel I refuse to cower because of a stupid virus that I'm remotely at risk to catch and will highly likely recover from. Take your fear mongering to the sheep.
No it’s human
Are we seriously fighting to maintain this?
If the ABC failed to uphold democracy, can any country this IPA/Murdoch/LNP virus?
Abc are you abandoning your poster girl
Disappointed ABC
Have they failed?
'New Zealand has failed' so if they get a couple of cases after 100 days of none it's a failure? Pretty gross bias
New Zealand didn't fail, became a little complacent. One cannot afford to become complacent, border & biosecurity need to be tight, quarantine without exceptions & with testing, testing needs to be done of everyone in quarantine & regular population testing, as well. nzherald
Um. I think the word “failed”, when applied to NZ is - at a minimum - drawing a long bow
Who said they have been a failure? To use a phrase often used by Scott Morrison, I don’t agree with the premise of your question.
Did they though?
No. How hard is it to understand?!? Wake up. Move on. And come up with solutions. Any idea how sick we are of hearing the same shit everyday?
How can you fail something you haven't finished doing?
Silly statement! 'Elimination' might be a poorly chosen commonly used term. They where successful to 'Locally Eliminate' CV19. But cannot be 'Eliminated' until its done (if ever possible) from the entire world. So they possibly successful local eradication, till reintroduced
Trying to eliminate Coronavirus is a road to failure! Got to face it head on and learn to live with it instead of cowering and hiding in our homes! Sweden got it right ! Dealt with the virus without sacrificing their economy.
They haven’t failed, rather disappointed in that headline I’d expect that from skynews not the ABC
No. Since modern civilization only 2 viruses have been eliminated, one is smallpox & it took over half a century. What am absurd question.
If you cannot test everyone, how can you claim Cov-19 free status. Just Bullshit, or horseshit in this case.
theweeflea Penny dropping
Ardern has failed since she bullshitted her way into power. It’s has been one fiasco after another and has not delivered upon any of her signature policies. How many ministers has she lost because of sex crimes now? What a clown show.
Nope, never believed they did anyway! It was just waiting for the right conditions, that’s how they work!
They didn’t do a very good job! All talk but failed on the testing of front line personnel! That’s what happens when show ponies run the joint!
Click bait ABC? Really?
New Zealanders eliminated Covid-19. Jacinda Ardern's Government let it back in.
New Zealand didn't fail. The Govt failed New Zealand. They did not work hard enough to protect us.
It’s not possible. We were told back in February yet some countries still have their head in the sand. We live with it until a vaccine is broadly available. End of story
🤔 DaveHowe82
How did viral spread become a competitive sport?
Tanzania we have managed to control total. God is good.
No country can do it alone.
They didn’t fail, what are you talking about?
We have two choices: suppression hasn’t worked, health care workers infected, life won’t get back to normal and possibly 50 million more deaths from Coronavirus. Elimination does work, if there are some hiccups then we deal with them hard and fast.
NZ hasn't failed, we just showing how it was done the first time..
Originally it was about flattening the curve, they’ve had bugger all fatalities and no spread for months. Hardly a failure, just a reminder how insidious this virus is.
We're less than 1 year in, too early to use the word eliminate
All countries will eliminate COVID19 eventually 😃
I’d hardly call it a fail! 🙄
The article seems to infer there are no cases in Australia
It's something we're stuck with for life as any other disease illness need a vaccine or cure.
Lol they've hardly failed save the clickbait articles for the Murdoch rags pls
Border control (around 2 thirds haven't been tested as yet. They will be now but before then, it wasn't mandatory as due to the Bill of Rights.
Not technically, while it remains part of an open global system, running on an exponential that never reaches zero.
Fail is such an inappropriate view point. Who has a rule book that anyone is holding as THE standard. Extremely disappointed position from the .
The premise of the question is completely false. NZ succeeded, however until there is an effective vaccine or treatment, the price of elimination will be eternal vigilance. Covid19
It’s obvious - has been for sometime - now toatally conformed - that a vaccine certainly needs to created or a treatment developed.
No
Anyone see the Iceland data? Anyone,
Vulnerable New Zealand people have had one third of a year with normal social interactions, while many Australians have been forced to lock themselves in their homes over the same time period. That does not sound like a failure to me.
If one switches off the media
Lot of triggered lefties in the comments, since the ABC refuses to say their Glorious leader across the ditch isn't the source of the Sun rising in the East. 🤣
Nope
Did you stop to maybe consider the wording of this tweet?
NZ has not failed. they had 102 days living with no fear. and they will get this under control.
Bahahah..ooh gee I wonder..can humankind control nature? If you believe actual science, the answer is f$&k no! Viruses live everywhere, spread like wildfire & can only ever really be mitigated not fully eliminated. A greater thing than a virus which destroys countries is fear!
No and it's about time to realise that and end the social control , it's going to be with us forever now
Failed!? From a global perspective, a person capita basis, how have they failed? ... I’ll wait?
Who is writing ABC headlines these days, a crackpot in a tin foil hat? A Murdoch reject? Take a chill pill and stop being alarmist. New zealand has had a few cases but thanks to their previous good work it is minor enough to be easily managed.
NZ failed because of the obvious.
Vaccination is the only way forward for this even if it is 70 % effective.
ShitTake
They didn't fail. What the fuck are you on about? Absolutely hating your framing of news!!!!! Please stop.
It can not be eliminated.
100 countries now have said they have the secret elixer that will save the world.
They didn't fail, stop pandering
Only if it doesn't exist. Can the Democrats keep it Alive until November? When it magically disappear
More honest question, how can any country eliminate a virus?
No
You do understand that its always going to be there? you understand that ABC ?
Oh how the marxist love child of the ABC news has fallen. Do u all get time off to go pick a tax payer funded companion dog
‘If Jacinda Ardern failed’.... there all fixed 👍🏻
Not without a better education system and - of course, a vaccine
So what's the long term plan for NZ. Will there borders be closed to international travel for years? Most other countries are not going for eradication but will live with control from here immunity and vaccine, but vaccines are never 100% effective.
If you call that a failure, what is the rest of the world?!
No country can eliminate it. We have never eliminated any virus. resigndanielandrews
“Failed”? Oh for goodness sake 🤦♀️ !
Only if they remain closed. Can't happen. COVID__19
NZ proved that “elimination” is only ever temporary & is not sustainable long term. The fallacy is that if you go hard then ppl can go back to normal. There is no difference between elimination and suppression if you have outbreaks & shutdowns either way
Define failure .... that would be Scott Morrison
Attention ABC... NZ didnt 'fail'. Victoria FAILED. NZ had some bad luck at imports level. Stop scaremongering.
only Communist China can
Why ABC? Have they given up the fight? No. The fight is still on. They have not failed. They are doing the best job so far of any nation.
In what possible twisted universe in your feeble mind has New Zealand failed? Their response and control of this virus has been outstanding.
This is not a failure. They did the right thing, it worked, they knew (and Jacinda said) it was likely to come back. It has, and they're dealing with it. Emotive language and words like 'failure' are not appropriate.
Yes, by turning off your damn idiot-box and cancel MSM.
No so stop locking down and learn to live with it, to much damage locking down and common sense was always that it won’t work. Some stage borders have to open then what? Common sense
What a garbage headline
No
They didn’t fail, it’s their turn to save the children
It didn't fail. This is spreading unnecessary alarm. Ruby Princess enquiry please.
Who is working the social media desk this weekend? Because some of your tweets have been absolute click-bait. They haven’t “failed” shit.
We haven’t been told the source of the cluster.If it is a quarantine failure then yes we can eliminate, if it’s a longer incubation period we can adjust quarantine times, if it entered the country on freight then goods need to be sprayed or sit at port longer. We can eliminate.
More white supremacy claptrap from lefty loons at ABC. Taiwan with 24 million people has eliminated the virus so has Fiji (albeit with a smaller population). Don't they count? The better question is whether elimination is the right strategy. It isn't.
It’s a political hoax not based in any realm of science or facts. People need to understand people like Jacinta, Anna and the hysterical Polly have destroyed their economy and future all to ge themselves reelected. They don’t care for their country or state
No cause it’s a SCAMDEMIC. You cant eliminate something that’s not real.
Summary: yes.
Pretty hard to eliminate an imaginary pandemic. Barely a minor health crisis.
No, of course not, and there is no benefit of slowing the spread” Prevalence x time= risk of infection. Do the maths.
IGrandstandWithDan
Classic ABC article. They say “listen to the science”, but clearly the ABC have zero science/math capability.. The proposition of “elimination” is a math problem.. yet not a single mention of math here.. 1/2
Have NZ failed?
NZ didn’t fail? A virus can never be fully eradicated. They have done an amazing job. Please give better thought to your headlines
The failure is in the strategy, elimination is not possible. The virus will run its course, regardless of what Ms Ardern thinks she can do to stop it.
Yes...China.
Elimination is the only positive way of continuing business as usual and with great caution. It can be done, three States and one Territory in Australia are testament to that. If you go hard at it Victoria and NSW it can be achieved, just do it.
Not sure if I would call if a failure. New Zealand have done an amazing job.
ALL THE SHEEP DON'T SEE THE ELEPHANT. You are all going to get an unsafe vaccine forced into your body.
Great thread. The article is ok but the headline is clickbait. ABC go figure. Fail to defeat is dumb language at any time but it’s meaningless when talking about a pandemic for which there is no vaccine. Every rational government gets this. NZ is really onto it.
Jesus looked at them and said, 'With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.' - Matthew 19:26
The ABC look inceasingly stupid. The NZ PM said Covid would never be eliminated until a vaccine was successful - repeated weeks back - just for the dummies.
New Zealand haven't failed anything. Nobody is immune. They'll do the hard yards and likely have it under control again soon enough. Good leadership across the Tasman.
dont you think its odd how it just popped back up in NZ? whos to say someone didnt plant it
If , the public broadcaster, fails to deliver accurate news reports in neutral language what hope is there for our country? Your headlines are a disgrace.
NZ hasn’t failed, yet. It’s important this new cluster happened now while it’s manageable and and hasn’t yet exploded, also to find where the flaws in the system are.
It's a bit extreme to say 'failed'.
Has any country eliminated the common cold? The seasonal flu? Being a new virus it's not well known how it transmits, carries and develops amongst us. We will find out more as time goes on, but it could be carried by animals we share homes with or it could be in food. Who knows?
We are so appalled at what our abc journalists are being forced to do and say. It’s time you downed tools and made it obvious to all that you are being made to skew your stories.
Is the editor from The Australian helping you out with writing headlines?
If we have a vaccine we can .
its a virus, how can u eliminate the flu?....😂😂😂😂
Nope. No country can ever do this.
They haven’t failed at all, they proved that their society was cohesive ,caring and unselfish.
blanketcrap Covid 19 is here to stay like other any contagious virus -more virus to come in later years!
blanketcrap No one!
Not failing, just having a brief setback.
blanketcrap 🌎wide those who acted fastest, tested most, eliminated 2 zero cases, & waited, B4 opening, had BEST STATS ⭐️After opening up, it got in again, & straight back2 full scale lockup. 🌍wide that’s the only solution. ALL do that😡🤦🏼♀️. MUSTY irraddicate it😡+ Extinction 🔥💧🌎Doomed😡
We are being groomed by dark conservative forces to accept unknown source as the new normal simply because community transmission is so low needs to be deliberately spread. COVID has been weaponized NZ is under attack same as VIC. Watch for more unknown source trans in QLD.
Of course no one can eliminate the virus, NZ most likely never eliminated it either. 0 reported cases does not equal 0 cases
I wouldn’t characterize the outbreak as a ‘failure’ - seriously!
Failed?
Adhern wants this virus to keep going. It’s all about destroying the economy. Just ask Dan Andrews.
China already wins the coronavirus
Singapore excludes their migrant workers.
Not if we don't try to.
YES! Our beautiful Fiji islands is the first country to go over 120+ days and still have no Covid-19 cases!! 👏👏👏👏👏🏝️☀️☀️⛱️⛱️
NZ COVID response is similar to being the only non greenhouse polluter on the planet, what next?
If ABC media fails to to write a decent article, can any media outlet? I’m more concerned about mainstream journalism than I am of coronavirus
HCQ works and ends this pandemic!!
I think the experience now from New Zealand makes us realise the pervasiveness of this virus and that elimination is impossible.
Don’t you know a country called TAIWAN? Best model dealing with CCPV.
Elimination or tolerance
NZ is not a model country to follow. They’re waiting to enforce vaccines instead of using medicines now. Thousands of doctors are using HCQ, anti-inflammatories & anticoagulants around the world to successfully treat COVID in the early stages.
If all the commenters retorting about how NZ didn't fail actually read the headline they would realise, in context, that NZ did fail at eliminating the virus. 🤦🏽♂️
It’s not a competition, it’s a misfortune. Much like the Bushfires in Australia last year, it’s about putting out spot fires before it gets out of control & NZ is very good at reacting to spot fires 🔥
Once again, poor form 👎
Pakistan
ABC. Can we have ABC News and ABC Opninon Piece.
If Saint Jacinda failed, what hope does the rest of humanity have?
Seriously 😒 they’ve definitely not failed based on statistics
Agree. The ABC is now a shock jock. Poor analysis and poor journalism. Failure is a harsh word in 2020 but if you want to bandy it around then the ABC news is a failure.
Get rid of the people, get rid of the virus. Easy.
Not if it’s coming in on frozen food packaging.
Does a sport person fail when they lose the odd contest but still remain the best in the world at what they do? I think people who think perfection exists have a very skewed understanding of the nature of things. NZ is the bomb with this thing & will sort it again pretty swiftly.
News headline is blaming melbourne. But what really is the reason for it, is any countries individual citizens responsibility to look after their fellow citizens and do the right thing.
Aren't the first questions - When did 'flatten the curve' change to 'lockdown to eliminate' Who made that decision? Why wasn't it discussed publicly so the implications could be understood?
Heard Island is doing pretty well... trying to eliminate this virus is like a Greek woman trying wind back the clock on her bikini line.
No elimination strategy is a failure
Cost them $440m a week to lockdown, virus has come back, but you’ve still got adoring Ardern fans saying it’s not a failure? They’ve done a terrific job. Australia (mostly) has done a great job. But you cannot “defeat” this virus.
The virus was detected again. The question is can it be eliminated? The answer irrefutably is no, it can’t be eliminated. Why? Because you can’t close a country down indefinitely.
No
It is very difficult to have normalcy for now . . . continue best practices. Especially avoid long duration confinement indoors with others . . . Help Americans to vote safely. =
Until this virus is eradicated from the whole planet the best any single country can hope for is elimination.
Successful at elimination, what NZ cannot do is ERADICATE the virus from the rest of the world. They resumed normal domestic activity, and it was worth it. Until a vaccine is found, we need to find ways to stop the virus escaping quarantine. First ELIMINATE, then ERADICATE.
NZ did not fail. The ABC keeps failing with good journalism however. This now feels like
They haven't failed, its just a blip and they have got it under control.Its up to the people to keep it under control. New Zealanders ,don't let your lovely country down ,be ever vigilant.
Former shop steward, now ABC 'medical expert' Dr Norman Swan is a charlatan
I used to like Abc news. Maybe this is how the LNP get the people to agree to de-fund ABC by making the headlines match the MSM instead of how it used to be when the news was less like the Oz. NZ hasnt failed and neither has Victoria by the way.
C'mon You can do better than this. Huge assumption that NZ failed. They detected the virus in the community after 100 days! And looks as though they have it contained in less than a week. That's a success
We don't know. (Source: Virology Weekly podcast hosted by Professor Vincent Racaniello of Columbia University. accessed. 16. August 2020.)
We'll never get rid of it, we need to focus on limiting it and keeping the vulnerable safe.
Not sure 'eliminate' is correct word. We're all trying to hold it at bay. Give our hospitals a chance to cope. Only people, everywhere, doing their bit can give medical science a chance. It's up to each person. Wash hands, social distance, mask up. Be kind Be calm Be safe. 🇨🇦
Elimination of covid 19 via lockdown/travel reatrictions was never on the table, it was always about giving the healthcare system time to respond. I don't get why so many people think otherwise.
That's making the assumption that New Zealand has failed. They successfully eliminated the virus and now have an outbreak that looks very much like it came from Melbourne. If they successfully eliminate it again they have not failed. it is far too soon to know the answer
Turkey can't for sure. Our Country have been ruled by Erdogan for over 18years and still counting. As we all know in today's world, lack of democracy benefit only the one who had the power. You can check the statistics of Turkey for 18years and make an assumption
No and elimination wasn’t the strategy to start with. Time to open up the economy.
Obviously no
No. Every other country will fail too.🙄
NEW ZEALAND WILL AGAIN REASON NEW ZEALAND WILL IT IS NOT RULED BE A CORRUPT DISHONEST DISGRACEFUL GOVERNMENT LIKE THE MORRISON AND DUTTON CORRUPTION ON THE HIGHEST LEVEL. For all of You that Voted last Election for LNP SHAME ON YOU ALL WE HAVE BEEN PUT BACK 50 years
If they don't stop the maverick aviation industry from sneaking infected people into the country then I'd suggest nobody will eliminate the virus.
Guernsey, one of the Channel Islands, has been free of Covid-19 for 107 days. Travel into the Bailiwick is severely restricted, apart from an ‘air bridge’ with the Isle of Man. Otherwise life is very much as it was before March. But even here, we cannot be complacent.
New Zealand did not fail .. they succeeded. Australia has failed- miserably
In Soviet New Zealand virus eliminates you.
No. The only way to eliminate a pathogen of this nature ie, one with a very low fatality rate, would be to reduce populations to imprisonment and absolute servitude wherein strictly controlled, ordered camps are the long term norm and freedom barely exists.
No.
We always knew there would be outbreaks. Our definition of elimination explicitly included that. We haven't failed (yet). Nor has Australia.
Well NZ hasn't failed like Australia yet... if there is an infection.. everyone has to do their part and tacke it like South Korea.
They didn’t fucking fail.
Yes it’s possible just not feasible , don’t let anyone in at all , 2 weeks quarantine for returned travellers isn’t full proof , as we’ve seen it can spread to staff and then into the general populace
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