Congratulations to the Geelong Cats for winning their 10th AFL premiership and fourth in 15 years before a full house of 100,024 spectators at the Melbourne Cricket Ground. With 10 players aged 30 or over,After two seasons of COVID-19 disruptions forced the 2020 and 2021 grand finals to be played in Brisbane and Perth respectively, the biggest game of the year made a welcome return to the spiritual home of Australian Rules Football.
Geelong’s team of veterans overwhelmed the much younger and less experienced Sydney Swans line up before a packed MCG.That the 2022 AFL grand final was played without a spare seat at the MCG signals Melbourne’s full recovery from being the world’s most locked down city during the pandemic. Next Sunday night’s rugby league grand final between Sydney’s western suburbs powerhouses, Penrith and Parramatta, at the former Olympic stadium at Homebush could be a sell out too.. It’s time to bring more normalcy back to the nation’s CBDs as well.
Source: Healthcare Press (healthcarepress.net)
If person x jumped off the bridge would person y?
That’s only the opinion of 100024 people many of whom do not work. 😳🤷♂️😷
Sure there is, we don't want to, WFH is a right not a privlidge any longer
This is RIDICULOUS. There could be plenty of ‘health & safety’ reasons for not wanting to return to office. Here’s one you reported on… - Sexual harassment Then there is: - poor ergonomics - psychologically unsafe - poor amenities - bullying - occ violence COVID=iceberg tip
It really doesn't. Congratulations on embarrassing yourselves.
Outside versus indoors. Clearly someone missed the whole “indoor” part of “indoor air quality”
I mean people in an outdoor arena for a couple of hours is different to being in a building for 40 hours a week with very little ventilation innit
No. There are usually more risks associated with commuting to an office and working there compared to working from home, and employers have both moral and legal duties to make work as safe as reasonably practicable for their employees. You should be promoting SafeIndoorAir & 😷
This is nonsensical. Outdoors for a few hours is much lower risk than 8 hours in an unventilated office. It’s also optional to attend the footy. People have to work. Employers have a legal obligation to provide a safe workplace.This is just about pushing interests of big business
I find it hard to believe that there once was a time when I voluntarily paid to read the .
Don’t post drunk.
So the fact that some people are prepared to risk transmission in an outdoor setting, means that everyone, including he immuno-compromised and their nearest and dearest, should be forced to risk transmission in an indoor setting. Stunning. Although not, as it’s the AFR.
You'd think the Financial Review could do the math. City of 5 million - 100,000 of them willing to go the the grand final. That's 2 percent of the population Doesn't really show anything does it
Why do boomers have such a problem with remote working?
It proves nothing. Test ‘em all and see the disease rate. What a fatuous statement. I work where people come from all over the country every week- every week Covid arrives. It’s still there. Still causing harm and killing. They just aren’t saying so!!
This is so stupid it hurts my brain.
Paper copies of the fish wrapper should be enough for them. Well said CharterHallGrp I mean
No, what a load of bollocks
Fuck sake. Offices and indoor poorly ventilated workplaces were cess pits of germs BEFORE the pandemic. Hands up if you enjoyed getting your quarterly cold/ virus infection that wiped you out for a week each time? Coughing so hard you thought your ribs would be break? Fuck that.
Some people speed around curves when driving. Therefore, physics is over. Some climb cliffs without safety gear. Therefore, gravity is over for everyone -- that's basically what you're saying when you're demanding people return to the office just because some act recklessly.
Love those outdoor offices.
You don’t really understand how airborne viruses are transmitted do you?
Paywalled, but guessing this dream logic would also take the Titanic maiden voyage being fully booked as 'proof' that nobody really cares about providing enough lifeboats.
100,000 people outside versus offices workers inside with no ventilation. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Tell me you're a captive of property spruikers without saying you're a captive of property spruikers.
No, it actually DOES NOT show that. It shows that there are a few 100K of reckless fools willing to take health chances to spend 5 hours at the footy periodically. (Not 40 hours pw). But it says nothing about the careful rest of us. I WFH, I don't go to concerts, footy, etc.
The millions watching at home show there is no reason to return to the office.
I think not spending hours a day in traffic might be a financial, time and mental health benefit. Why is the AFR so invested in the choices of private citizens?
the Fin review running bro culture as a measure for life. siiiik!
It is too early to have the worst take of the week
Has anyone put their name to this tripe?
The Financial Review used to publish stories about 'the risks' of investing in commercial real estate, and how losses must be absorbed by those who want to 'stay in the game.' But when true reality strikes, all we hear is whining from those finally losing on such investments.
Apart from the fact people can be just as productive, if not more productive from home. Stop trying to ram the past down everyone's throat because it suits your agenda. The cat is out of the bag, especially given there is zero evidence to show people need to be in offices
The return of record company profits shows that there is no reason for workers continuing to not receive pay rises above the rate of inflation.
The choices of the workers meaning nothing to you?
A commercial real estate agent wrote this didn't they.
Not attributed to a writer, is this computer generated propaganda? Even computers contract viruses.
You what? Why is airline travel a debacle? Apart from crap employment practices, it's because staff are often sick. Why are they often sick? Because every flight is now a mass-spreader event. Mandate masking and proper ventilation. Or roll on all sick, all the time (+fun future).
This is Financial Review as Financial Review gets. Just change the name of the paper to “we hate workers but we love money”
One of these things is not like the other.
What ridiculous logic! Just because 100,000 spectators decided to risk their health to support the team they love, doesn’t mean vulnerable workers should have to. There’s also a difference between sitting in an open air stadium or an enclosed office. Covid ThePandemicIsNotOver
The infections passed on during the footie finals will, through their network effects, kill hundreds of people over the next months. I suppose their lives are a small price you are prepared to pay to prop up your bad investments in commercial real estate?
Occasionally I consider subscribing to the AFR, and then I see another ridiculous tweet like this and remind why I don’t.
Tell us in a few days how many of the 100,000 got covid and in a few months how many got long covid and explain all the worker shortages.
Doesn't show anything of the sort. What we have open air offices now do we? Many office workers will still be vulnerable to acute Covid and post infection after effects. That hasn't miraculously changed despite vaccinations.
What it doesn't show is that getting people back into the office is about control and nothing to do with productivity.
You neglect to mention the grand final was held outside… with excellent ventilation
Haha sod off the world has changed and you can work from home. Also the Pandemic is NOT over, selfish people will still go to work and infect people
Outdoors for a few hours vs. indoors all day, day after day, talking to each other in confined airspace, travelling in same? vs. outdoors for a few hours. One is lower risk, which one? (Which is not to say hundreds won't get infected at the footy, but who would know?)
How? Can your writers at least display their epidemiological qualifications in their bylines?
Massive eyeroll
It’s outdoors ffs
Dear AFR, your slip is showing. What an embarrassingly captured publication you’ve become.
Another headline to prop up the CBD property market, I guess ...
'Please return Domain's revenue to normalcy'
maybe there's an environmental benefit to not having a population burning fossil fuels in daily commute
Minimizing long term illness for profit
Indoors vs outdoors. I feel embarrassed *for* you, it seems you are incapable of feeling it yourself.
Covid causing us to recognize health hazards that were already there is not a bad thing, nor should the subsidence of the Covid death rate (which is still significant) be cause for ignoring the health and safety hazards of our workplaces.
Enclosed space like an office without windows that can open without little ventilation is not the same as footbal matchl outside. Plus lots of advantages of people working from home. More productive no need to travel can spend.
Is it employers who want employees back in offices or is it the businesses who own and/or lease offices & commercial spaces - shops, restaurants & parking garages, who want people back? Property companies advertise in print media. In whose interests are these type of stories?
There are plenty of mental health and family reasons for people to “hold out”. I’ve repeated this to everyone I know, but this has been a complete game changer for our family. No commute = Dad is home for dinner. One of the many reasons we will never go back to life as it was.
Read as 'Grand final lunacy returns'.
From those who claimed 'Gladys saved Australia' 😂
The advertisers are feeling the pinch.
what the hell even is this? Journalism is dead.
What a stupid parallel to draw! 🙄🤡🤡🤡
Are their offices outside with direct sunlight and fresh air?
When did 'normality' get abandoned in favour of 'normalcy'?
Half of these crowds are probably anti vaxxers!
Clearly you’ve never worked in an open plan office 🤷♀️ That sh!t seriously affects your health & safety & then there’s things like bullying & sexual harassment etc. to worry about Travelling to & from work isn’t always safe either Lemme guess..sponsored by corporate realestate
What?
Why will the peasant class not care about commercial real estate values?
Actually people are more productive at home. Mental health improves from not spending unnecessary time commuting. More time with family and physical activities. They look like valid reasons to me.
“The AFR View”. Well, the AFR can lead by example and have all their staff return to the office then.
Time to source other revenue streams than corporate real estate owners. This will help you to move away from the editorial sooking about a now defunct model for doing business. I know you can do it, kids!
Sure.
Let’s compare open air environments with carbon dioxide/ Covid rich office environments. Or not.
OMG. all I see is more cases of covid and deaths from covid Tony_Burke we hope and pray your party does not agree with this.
Unless the offices are open air and in the sunlight then, no. Make no mistake, this is about control. Businesses gain hours from workers who no longer need to commute and those that demand return to work in spite of this, tell on themselves and their workplace culture.
Just another anonymous troll in the MSM. Can't even put their name to their ridiculous statements.
No, people actually wanted to go to the football, they just don't want to spend hours every day on public transport just to go to a box in the city to appease some real estate mogul when they can do their job as well at home and enjoy some work-life balance.
Workers like the flexibility of WFH. Employers like the productivity. Only owners of Centre-City properties and service industries want workers to return to the office and again produce cash flows for them. Fear those days are over!
I've never called in sick to the footy so I can stay home in my underdoos and binge Heartbreak High. Just saying, maybe open plan cubicles don't represent the same risk-reward ratio.
Oh, no no no. We see what you're doing, and you and your corporate lobbyists can FRO.
The desperation is hilarious
Some employers will insist in return to office because they don't want to invest in the technology to monitor remote workers.
Ha ha, great observation!! Try it out and watch them quietly protest.
Because you don't logic, do you?
Productivity is high when we work from home, workers save 3 hours of commuting time. What are u whinging about?
There is no *physical* health and safety reason… Not mentioning mental health during this very short piece means you’ve missed the point entirely, dear anonymous author.
Quick, the people who spend time and money to get to a work station for 8+ hours are escaping
You want people to risk their health just so rich people with inner city property portfolios don’t loose their investment money. I don’t think so. People protect your health.
Even if this were true, many people just don’t want to return to the office Covid has shown that jobs can be done from home just as effectively & without the need to commute or pay for parking Employers who insist we go back to the way things were will ultimately be the losers
The language is interesting. Holding out? When you view people making your profits as adverseries/uppity wage peasants, rather than valuable team members..
Commercial landlords say what now? I can’t hear them over the 75% floor space reductions happening at the moment
'there is no health and safety reason for workers continuing to hold out against returning to the office'. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
SincDavidson Are bureaucrats “workers”? Let’s just get rid of them all.
This breathtakingly flawed logic is yet more evidence of the paucity of even basic analysis amongst so called msm scribblers. That the Financial Review publishes such opinion cements just how far it has fallen. Of course it has a capitalist bias but this is just tosh.
They only care about land lords collecting rent. Why do we need to cram workers into an office, very unhealthy, just like the redundant factory system.
What the
Riiight….because a few hours at an outdoor event and 40+ hours a week in a poorly ventilated office building are exactly the same ?
Is this rag owned and run by a consortium of cafe owners.
Stop trying to put the BetootaAdvocate out of work - leave the satire to them.
. Edit: 'The return of packed-out football finals shows that there is no health and safety reason that drunk footie fans care about enough to think about what they're doing'
This is daft. The same people that go in person to a football final are not the same people that need to work a job in order to earn an income. One is a once-off, the other is a potentially Mon-Fri proposition indoors, after having to commute there.
This will age poorly. More & more long term effects are being found daily, combined with effects from repeated “mild” infections that actually cause internal damage & may be cumulative.
The return of the fire season shows that there's no reason to tidy up the flammable material around your house or keep a fire extinguisher.
Written by an journalist working from home
Tell me your financial donors are desperate to implement eugenics without telling me they’re desperate.
and it's a superspreader
no it shows the opposite. this will kill people, how do harmed people make good fiscal policy? CovidIsntOver
Complete non sequitur. Regardless of your view on WFH and health, an action isn't safe merely because thousands of people decide to do it.
Subtext The people that own this news organisation are neck deep in debt invested into commercial property, none of which makes any sense unless you hamsters are housed in it for 50 hours plus a week
lol an unattributed editorial... are you actually serious with this illogical, grasping and utterly desperate plea on behalf of boomer management practices? Talk to us about indoor air quality.
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In the bin with a ridiculous long bow comparison
Written like a Putin propaganda piece ,.. you asserted … because footy fanatics went to the MCG, there is no health or safety reason that transmission can occur by returning to the office … can you understand why some people might think that this a stupid thing to say?
This is a shit argument added to a mountain of shit arguments. I have yet to hear any justification that doesn’t rely on touchy-feely nonsense about “belonging” or “collaboration”.
Quite right. No media company whose CEO or owner owns shares in a comercial property company should allow their staff to work at home.
Completely flawed logic. I wouldn't even know where to begin... 🙄
Is this a parody account?
Because a bunch of footy fans think that covid is over means everyone else can be forced into unsafe environments? You gotta be dreamin!
In our organization those who choose to come into the office under our voluntary policy also do tend to attend sporting events. Additionally we have a group who assesses their personal risk differently and they choose to work from home. The former group has higher absenteeism.
Increasingly, Artificial Intelligence will continue composing better articles than most journalists. How many offices will be needed for that?
Whakadoodoo Journalism
“Suicide exists, so murder investigations will no longer be pursued.”
Someone at Dexus will write this stuff for free. Why do we need you?
It’s disingenuous to go out to a packed game, restaurant, cafe, club etc. then argue to your employer that you’re concerned about health & can’t possibly return to the office. Many businesses are now office centric. Most will follow. Those WFH will lose out.
Lol nice ratio, clown shoes.
How utterly desperate the commercial real estate 'news media' now is. Their own journalists will support health-vulnerable Australians getting fatally ill at work if it means some billionaire CBD developer or office tower owner keeps buying ads in their newspaper. How grim.
Aka 'i have commercial real estate & my investment is underwater please make the economy inefficient for my personal gain' No thanks
Bloody hell
Surely in a free market, if some employers want workers to turn up to a physical office after we have just proven it is not necessary for many, then they should offer adequate insensitive? Or is supply and demand only a thing when it benefits the employer?
Haha if any cretin believes this, they can enjoy having their best and brightest poached by companies who are embracing hybrid work practices.
you are embarrassing yourself now, again
Whose holding out? I'm just refusing to participate in it. There's no need to sacrifice my time every single day to commute to an office.
It's my prerogative to risk going to a game but it isn't an employers right to force that risk upon me if I can be equally effective working remotely
Except we don’t have to, we can work mostly from home, support our local communities and have better work life balance with no time wasting commutes.
Well, what about a middle ground? Work from the MCG, casual dress, pies and beers, and every ninety minutes, a new group of middle managers runs out on to the field to have their entire work day scrutinized by The Bunker?
Bad take🫡 😷
All those people who watched the GF from home must be forced to attend the match next year
lmao which one of you scabs wrote this shit?
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Well I wasn't there, so I'm not sure how that tracks. But no worries, I'll go to an outside office for 4 hours a year, deal?
Is the AFR on commission for the back to the office stories ? Just relentless moaning and whining about workers
Waiting for the list of offices with no roofs to be published in AFR. (Fucking embarrassing isn't it.....)
Yes, because sitting outdoors for a few hours to watch sport is exactly the same as working in a stuffy office with crap airflow for 9+ hours.
Except that it is more efficient to wfh and productivity increases because workers not so stressed. Commercial property owners not so happy and lobbying hard- as per your article. But myeh!
Pretty sure my office doesn’t have air circulation as good as the MCG
If an employee can do job from home then risk any employer faces if they demand more attendance at office is that better performed employees will utilise their agency to quit and accept a job with an employer who offers more flexibility. And there’s nowt the AFR can do about it.
Ultimately employees will vote with their feet to choose employers with flexible arrangements
Are offices now outdoors as well?
Soooo desperate
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