Ex-fire bosses say climate change must be key in bushfire royal commission

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Former fire chiefs have written to the prime minister warning that a royal commission into bushfires will fail unless it puts climate change front and centre.

Australia's alliance of former emergency services chiefs has warned Prime Minister Scott Morrison that a bushfires royal commission will fail unless it focuses on climate change.

The cohort argues that the commission will also fail if it prioritises fuel reduction as a"silver bullet" because this season's blazes were weather-driven with a huge number ignited by lightning not arsonists. "I've been fighting fires for almost 50 years and this summer I've seen things I never imagined," Mr Mullins said.

The remains of cars and a house destroyed by bushfire are seen outside of Glenreagh, near Coffs HarbourThe letter says building large community facilities which can withstand fire to protect people should be considered as well as the establishment of national firefighting aircraft.Former Queensland Fire and Emergency Services Commissioner Lee Johnson said experts warned a decade ago climate change would lead to the conditions seen this bushfire season.

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Lynestel Well a Royal Commission will fail then, because this Tiger isn't going to change his stripes for anyone.

...depends what it is trying to achieve. To prove climate change is real?

slc6638 The RC won't fail, just like their previous politically motivated efforts it ignore what they want ignored.

Why would the RC fail? Does he really mean that it won't be as thorough and comprehensive investigation as it should be? That would hardly be a 'fail'.

Is that the Tim Flannery sponsored ex fire chiefs, yes that has alot of credibility.

Louder he can’t hear you

Former

fungus_54 It seems they have the conclusion already!

Qldaah Nothing more ex than an ex.

Former fire chiefs NEED climate change front and centre otherwise it is could to show gross negligence on their behalf ClimateCrisis ClimateChange excuses tryharder BeBetter

He didn't listen to them before, why would ScottyfromMarketing listen now? auspol ClimateCrisis

They have zero credibility

And what about idiot tree changes building amongst the eucalyptus trees.

Absolutely put climate change front and centre and give the scientists who refute climate change a forum as well. Lets have it out .. fore and against. Have BOM been fudging historical data, what were the previous warm periods. Was this really unprecedented or just media BS.

Perhaps they could state the number of fires STARTED by Climate Change? The honest number is zero but don’t expect it to be stated.

Another muppet

WGAF what “former”fire chiefs think!

Perhaps he needs to read the latest IPCC report and then he can shut up!

He’ll just ignore that bit. Just wonder if they’ll get a reply this time?

sounds like they are running scared

He’s going to ignore them.....just like before.

Isn’t it odd that none of the ex fire chiefs ever mentioned CC when they were current fire chiefs! 🤔

I find it curious that virtually every left leaning commentator in this issue is against a royal commission and specifically against the RC addressing hazard reduction - yet we are repeatedly told the Greens r in favour of hazard reduction - if this were true - why the concern?🤔

Will be running on a Greens ticket at the next election shill

This article makes me wonder what advice the ex-fire chiefs intended imparting to the PM in the much lauded April meeting that would have made any difference to this summer's fire disaster 🤔

Climate Change is in the terms of reference - but this is a BUSHFIRE RC - so the focus should correctly b on bushfire prevention and response methods - present and PAST (cc is a long term solution - we need 2 know what to do next summer) 👍

How otherwise would the lnp help their mates, why, more royal commissions, just like the petrol, banks etc, more slaps on the wrists I guess. Waste of our money, yep our money,

A few questions for the RC/Scientists/Fire chiefs; What level of fossil fuel usage will reduce the risk of fires in Australia over the next 12 months, 5 years, 10 years? Will the new level of risk be lower, equal too higher than current? What will be the social cost?

Don't you understand the Royal commission is designed to fail.

I doubt this will change the way the state's manage their Forrest

They will be ignored again

You mean 'emergency leaders for climate change group', Not JUST former fire chiefs... a group who specifically advocates climate change (not global warming though) And PS, what are their scientific credentials? Meteorology? Hydrology? Physics? Chemistry?

Former Fire Chiefs? What would they know? I didn't bother with them before and everything worked out fine...wait

Fat chance of the COALition recognising climate change. The corrupt ScottMorrisonMP won’t want to upset the coal billionaires. MorrisonFires auspol 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Scomo only hears what he wants to hear. Royal Commission a complete waste of time.

Lets not forget Mullins is Former NSW Fire and Rescue commissioner not to be confused with NSW Rural Fire Service commissioner totally separate organizations.

Says Tim Flannery's paid spokesmen...

AGW has nothing to do with climate change. Dont be bullied ScottMorrisonMP stay strong we are starting a GrandSolarMinimum and coal, oil and natural gas are vital energy sources and trace gas of .041% going up will ironically make the planet greener as it stimulates vegetation

ASRC1 Which it won’t be and which is why it will fail. As it is designed to do.

You know what's in CO2 fire extinguishers? Yes, that's right, CO2. And they work well.

AnthonyCole68 Perhaps they should put government parsimony and ignorance at the forefront. Governments stripping money from state forest management, reducing ranger numbers to almost zero, not replacing fire appliances in the rural areas, ignoring specialist advice. MorrisonFires

I wqant to hear what plumbers have to say on heart surgery! They used to be fire fighters, not physicists.

'I don't listen to former Fire Chiefs, I listen to the current ones' ScottyfromMarketing 04/02/2020.

Scott Morrison is tone deaf when it comes to climate change. Morrison should face criminal charges for his inaction on climate change. The worst PM ever.

This would be the same tiny mob that's already been totally discredited as motivated by politics rather than facts. ZeroCredibility

He’s an obstinate coal man. Everyone should BOYCOTT the RC unless the terms are sensible and correct for the scope of the inquiry.

And he will ignore him because scomo only listen to his superiors

The number of troll accounts spreading BS about arson and hazard reduction increases daily..whonis responsible for this disinformation campaign?

Are you going to heed warnings from experts this time ScottMorrisonMP? Or are you going to waste more of our money on your sham theatrics and then go and holiday in Jamaica or somewhere? If you can't do your job properly maybe just pack your bags now and be done with it?

This group of former emergency chiefs is funded by Tim Flannery's Climate Council.

On behalf of my grandchildren I THANK YOU former chiefs for your persistence. I remain shocked that ScottMorrisonMP still is ignoring your advice.

All brainwashed UN eco cult puppets. Fed from the trough of Flimflam. No credibility.

Absolutely 🙌 just not of the anthropogenic kind.

royal commissions are just overtime job for the 'mates', ban all banking fees and stop mining subsidies

Did Tim Flannery pay for the postage stamp?

Like taking advice from former prime ministers!

Former fire chiefs. Former.

This is a smoke screen (pun intended) by the former commissioners. It's an attempt to bury a commission in climate change arguments and to hide the former commissioners' complicity (through a lack of preventative actions) in the cause of the bushfires' intensity. auspol

This is old news and Greg Mullins writes for the Climate Council and is just pushing climate change. There is nothing Australia can do to change the climate. In fact if the whole world stopped using fossil fuels it will not stop the climate changing.

The Royal Commission is mainly a marketing ploy to deflect any responsibility from Morrison's negligence and to sweep the causation of climate change under the carpet. It will also provide justification for land clearing and other detrimental greed based conservative policies.

Persist. Persist. Persist.

AmandaPerram ScumMo won't listen to experts

Oh bother. Why won’t these gents get off the case.....ScottyFromMarketing

Why didn't these guys voice there concern earlier? Climate change hasn't just happened. To little hopefully not to late

This will bring out the barking mad who know more than scientists, bushfire experts and ex-fire chiefs. [Because being ex-fire chiefs means they have absolutely no experience apparently.] You'll see!

Ok, so now ex fire chiefs are climate scientists now?.. I assume he's an expert on how to manage fires.. it'll be nice to hear form him on how to physically reduce fuel loads so that when it happens again it'll be more manageable.. that'll be nice!!

margokingston1 “Ex”

Morrison doesn't listen to people who are in the know. Only those who think they know.

They are former let’s hear from the current ones before we listen to dinosaurs

My toast burnt. I instinctively popped it up to stop burning & making more smoke before I put on the fan & opened the door. Seemed the logical order. Worked too

ScottMorrisonMP What would you do and how would you feel if your wife accused you of DV and abducted your kids? Suicide?

Policies influenced by the CO2 hypothesis need to be scrutinized.

NyadolNyuon This RC is going to be little more than a Soviet show trial. They'll find a way to mitigate their responsibility.

reardon_shaun Hey, , your comments are chockers with bots, fake accounts and climate denial troll accounts. Hope you're reporting them all. ClimateDisinformation

Will they go unheard? Again

And he won't

Sigh. Oh but it will! It will result in doubling sentences for arsonists, and clearing more forests which will help the poor farmers as a bonus.🤦‍♂️

I wonder who the ex fire chief works for now! 🤔

Another deceived person ... climate change and bushfires are unrelated events !

They are Climate Council activists first and foremost.

There's more than 250 people going in front of the courts for bush-fire arson. Can fire-fighters explain why this proposed RC should not have child-hood trauma and subsequent delinquency as front and centre of this inquiry?

Some idiots (arsonists) burn half of the state, and want to have a royal commission about climate change, they should ask them if we had zero emissions would the bushfires happened!

How about they stop trying to influence the outcome before it even starts.

He’s ignored them before and will do so again.

MadFckingWitch I just came here to say MorrisonFires

These ex fire chiefs are a noisey bunch. I would imagine SCOMO would be keen to get a broad terms of reference for the RC...just from an amateur looking in it looms like it will find some pretty big failings from the State

Trying to handball their negligence in fuel control management, blaming climate change.

That’s what they are ......former! Their opinion is blatantly biased and is worth nothing. Politics have no place in a commission enquiry.

Sorry, but the commission is theatre, the IPA and coal lobby have already written the report

This Royal Commission will be a whitewash to show our illustrious Prime Minister did nothing wrong - he simply wants to be exonerated of any fault. Don’t worry, climate change will not come into this RC. I’m tired of these dipsticks.

Perhaps alsobtake a wee look at the extreme fire hazard eucalyptus trees present

How about it focuses also on the potential lack of hazard reduction burns and forestry management? Fire permits and fire burning periods. Local council involvement with land clearance etc. The ACT ban on collecting fire wood for example. Lots of things to also look at.

They only want a royal commission, so they can just do nothing at all. We all know why these fires where so bad!!waste of tax payers dollars. ScottyfromMarketing CrimeMinister

Climate change had nothing to do with bushfires.

betcha I know what scottyfrommarketing will think of that advice. ClimateCriminal

Dear Scott Morrison, these bushfires aren't caused by weather and poor management, but long term climate cycles, and can only be rectified through allowing the U.N implement their socialist agenda and remove everyone's private property, freedoms and privacy. Sincerely, a fireman

When is ScottyfromMarketing going to listen?

Did you hear him,I talk to current Fire chiefs. What does that mean these former Chief are idiots if that’s the case why does he still take advice from John Howard.

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