Bill Shorten says aged care is a Federal Government responsibility. Is he correct?

listedCovering 80 per cent of cases linked to aged care, the list highlighted 704 active cases across 12 facilities, all of them privately run.Download the ABC News app and subscribe to our range of news alerts for the latest on how the pandemic is impacting the worldExperts contacted by Fact Check said the Federal Government was responsible for oversight of aged care at the system level, which includes ensuring private providers were up to the challenge of COVID-19.

She said the Government not only held the purse strings but could also legislate higher standards of care or, through the regulator, rescind accreditation.On the systemic problem of staff working in multiple facilities, for example, Professor Ibrahim told Fact Check it would be an "abrogation of responsibility" for governments to simply say this was a provider's problem.

Federal support covers "additional supplies of PPE [personal protective equipment] from the National Medical Stockpile, a surge capacity of additional workforce if required, and a pathology provider to test residents if requested".Experts said that while the Federal Government was responsible for the aged care system, the states were responsible for public health.

In this sense, states retain some responsibility for residents. However, their role is to help facilities"If you don't have an outbreak and the public health unit comes and says, 'I think you should be better prepared', the provider can tell you … you've got no authority, we're operating under the federal rules," Professor Ibrahim said.

Yes he is......follow the money

BS is clearly BSing. This DHHS guideline re influenza in aged care clearly shows responsibility rests either state

It’s a state government issue.

Yes. That’s why there’s a federal aged care Minister

If only someone knew ?

The CowedABC is too afraid to report the truth. auspol

Such a sad demise from the once proud to this... ThisIsNotJournalism

Why say it’s a ‘fair call’ when the answer is a resounding YES?

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What the hell have you guys become? Of course it is a Federal Government responsibility

roberthulands YES HE IS!

YES HE IS!!

Why would you even ask that question? What? Are you getting twitter to do your research now? Everyone KNOWS IT IS!!! AgedCareCrisis trashjournalism

Yes!!

Yes of cause he is

ABC News - The Federal Government is responsible for aged care , now do your bloody job as professional journalists should be doing and start asking Morrison the questions instead of becoming a lapdog for him by attacking Labor instead

APadeau yes he is for all bar 5 that had limited covid.... in Vic.

Yes.

How many times, Royal commissions or legal documents do you need to see before you actually stop with this device 💩 Australia know aged care is a federal government responsibility, how is it that you at the don’t? ThisIsNotJournalism

yes mister murdoch

You know it is!

Yes.

Yup 100% Do your job ABC and cut the partisan crap, Up yours Ita

Dont know why you even ask. Of course they are and you know they are! Stop stirring the pot.

Well that’s settled. Now how about a follow up article. Scott Morrison says he’s fulfilled his responsibilities. Has he?

Why is the ABC questioning the veracity of an unquestionable comment made by Bill Shorten yet remains silent on the torrential flow of bullshit from the mouths of IPA/LNP pissants.

Why are you asking your readers if Bill Shorten is correct? Isn't it your job as, you know, JOURNALISTS, to inform us if he is correct?

It is our responsibility, all of us.

One word article? “Yes”. The end.

No

Bill is never correct.

Yes and No.

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Bill shorten says. This is like playing Simon says. I feel Simon has more authority on most matters.

Non government agencies and service providers need to wear much of the blame for cost cutting, staff training and pushing to have less registered nurses.

TLDR; Everyone's an arsehole. Actually an unusually balanced article from the ABC.

Isn’t that the job of the fourth estate to investigate and report back on? But given Howard privatised it and put it under the protection of the Feds the answer is yes.

Scott have you looked in the mirror lately

Why not just say he's right and not divest governments lies by saying 'fair call'.

Yes ... so is protecting our borders.... Too bad Ruby Princess was allowed in and disembark... LNP alot of deaths on their watch...

You’d think journalists could find out & then report accordingly! Try reporting on who has ultimate responsibility for borders & customs while you’re at it.

Fuck are there any journalists working there any more? Why are u asking us?

As the article said, the Feds fund and regulate private agedcare facilities. Audits for each home are on the web. States have are required to manage disease outbreaks - even in nursing homes. Normally infectious are taken to hospital. It's not a great system. auspol

In short yes.

Unfortunately, yes. He is correct. Provision and oversight of aged care has to be a federal govt responsibility and a consistent (high) standard across the country. Get it done.

samorsen Even Morrison agrees with that statement! Is this the new Sky ABC asking politically biased RW questions?

No

Each and every day I she'd a tear for the demise of the what was one a great reliable non biased news service brought to you by the Australian taxpayer known as the ABC. Know just another arm of propaganda for the federal gov of today.ffs they even promote articles from murdoch.

Yes and you bloody know it bloody stupid headline auspol

Btw you know he is

Yes

Oh FFS. We know it is YES. Stop stoking divisiveness.

Winder how many Government ministers have shares in these hell holes

Yep!

Do you realise you are supposed to investigate and inform not ask us what the answer is?

It's Yes... Not 'a fair call'

..... Not only is the government responsible for aged care but also the insidious privatised nature of these organisations.. Victorian Government has to take over the ones privatisation has allowed transmission of virus and death 🤬 auspol IStandWithDan insiders ABCNews

Well, Big Pharma keeps people alive and big gov is in the pockets of Big Pharma so...

Wrong question at a time when death in aged care homes are worst. We need accountability, partisanship to get on top of this aged care crisis.

Why are you asking us?

Stupid question! Doesn't deserve an answer! 😶

colonelhogans Yes

Who's Bill Shorten? 🧐😅

billshortenmp is only offering that opinion because he is not in government. auspol

There is only one government - Canberra. State governments are just federal government agencies.

Like saying health care is a federal govt responsibility. They provide funding and national standards and regulations, but they don’t operate the system. That’s a state responsibility and always has been. Remember when Kruddy want the Feds to take over the Tassie health system.

it used to be... most aged care facilities are under the church

They are both at fault. Simple.

How is this even a question?

I cannot understand why anybody puts their parents in an aged care home. These parents looked after you and then you dump them in a in uncaring place. What parental love you have!

It’s a human problem.

To the extent that operators comply with guidelines, yes. Otherwise the aged care model needs a complete quality overhaul with more community based input and oversight about operations.

It may well be. But our health services are not. Right now it is our health services deciding whether our elderly live or die.

Why are you posing that as a question? Yes, they are. We know they are. Just report that they are rather than framing it like a Murdoch Labor bashing piece. SaveOurABC

Why do you even put it as a question? There's no ambiguity. There's no philosophical opinion based answer. Aged care IS a federal responsibility and has been for many years. You know that. You're not helping Australians get impartial facts. Fail COVID19Aus auspol

Pathetic attempt to deflect what's happening in Vic. If Andrews used ADF like the rest of the country instead of 'mate of a mate' security, the virus would never have made it's way into aged care. Andrews is complicit

What a stupid and extremely naive question. Of course he's right, follow the money.

Why ask the question when it is clear they are. Fatuous, useless and spineless reporting as usual

bill who

Wrong headline, ABC. It should be 'Aged care IS a Federal Government Responsibility'

Absolutely

Looking more and more like we can scrap federal government anyway

Yes it is a commonwealth responsibility

Fancy turning to twitter to fact check your question.

Either Australia has federalism or it doesn't. Seems some states would survive but others would not.

Why is the ABC even producing an article like this, what have they become. Morrison's cheer sqaud

Yes

Of course it is correct, as the federal government is who you deal with when you need aged care. Why does ABC even need to ask this question?

Frydenberg & ScomoTheNonnaKiller told us to StayAtHome to save lives. Now they’ve successfully: - destroyed the economy, - left millions jobless AND killed our Nonnas. LNPnonnaKillers ScomoLiedAndNonnasDied AustralianLabor liberalaus whatthebloodyhellhappened

Maybe do your jobs facts only

More click bait.

That question has already been settled. Yes, they are

How is anyone supposed to take you lot seriously if you cant even do your own research?

Does this mean the whole nation everything should be federal government responsibility? I don't agree this. This is from the theory of Communist. I support freedom more

Aged care problems existed well before COVID and can’t be just the liberal govt to blame. It stretched from years ago when labor were in power. Sort it out and stop playing blame games.

Yes... But it would be better if each state was responsible for their own.

The ABC, not on Australia's side.

Has always been a Federal issue & it was Howard's govt that decimated it. He gave the aged care industry a blank cheque to do whatever they wanted. No more staff-patient ratios with qualified staff. All personal carers to make it cheap & profitable with no quality regulation.

Yes and did you really need to ask?

It's the responsibilty of Family and communities.

Shorten is a fool and vying for AlboMP job.

Why is this a question?

How are public assets more immune from virus’s?

'The Government's primary role is to fund and regulate facilities to ensure they adhere to agreed safety standards. These standards include preventing infectious disease outbreaks.'

What about private aged care

But the Prime Minister has now asked for the blame game to stop. So he is not responsible for problems in aged care.

Better question: why do YOU think he’s wrong?

I'd take that statement a step further & say that the current state of aged care is the Federal Govt's fault. Nationalise the lot & treat that sector, with child care, as highly funded professional services to our society.

The federal government has been slashing funding to aged care for years. This ultimately results in centers having to cut staff to afford to operate. Enter an illness and boom ... we're seeing the outcomes now.

Hey, Who effing well cares? As Australians, we entrust the safety, wellness and well being, to those in our employment.

its federal and state auspol

Of course.

Yes. Fed gov should also allow people to die with dignity than suffer years of pain and neglect. isupporttherightotdie

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