“The other side of the coin of our pain for the world is our love.”
When despair for the state of the world got them down, friends Jess Serrante and Joanna Macy found a new way forward.Listen on your computer:Episode Notes
Climate activists Jess Serrante and Joanna Macy are 60 years apart. They’re also close friends who’ve been sharing stories and commiserating about the state of the world for the past 10 years. When Jess experienced a crisis and started questioning whether her activism was really effective, Joanna provided a framework that changed everything.
In this episode, Anna talks to Jess about what she’s learned from Joanna about aging, activism, and managing the emotional ups and downs of caring about the world.or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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