Professor Philip Nolan at tonight's briefing. Image: Sam Boal/Rollingnews.ie Professor Philip Nolan at tonight's briefing. Image: Sam Boal/Rollingnews.ie SENIOR PUBLIC HEALTH figures have spoken out very strongly against Ireland adopting any strategy akin to “herd immunity” to tackle Covid-19 and made clear it’s not a strategy that will be adopted here.
After being raised at the Oireachtas Special Committee on Covid-19 response earlier, public health officials at tonight’s Department of Health briefing spoke strongly against the idea of pursuing herd immunity. An awful lot of young people might have to die in order for sufficient infections to occur to get anywhere near it. Professor Nolan also said that said that “even if it were ethically” appropriate to suggest that more at-risk groups from Covid-19, such as older people, isolate themselves from the rest of the community while such a strategy was being pursued, there’s no guarantee they wouldn’t get the disease.
HSE chief clinical officer Dr Colm Henry said the evidence is not justified in people having a sustained immunity after they’ve caught this virus. Specifically referencing safeguards on nursing homes, even the strongest defences wouldn’t protect residents there if the virus was allowed to spread rampantly in the community, he said.
LIES. Fake news. This nolan guy needs to be torn a new one. Send him to the private sector, he wouldn’t last 5 minutes. Mortality among young people is minuscule. It is no threat to them. FFS
Nphet are definitely an agenda based organisation 'an awful lot of young people' unless they try and kill your kids and call it covid I don't know how this is statistically even a statement
That's just a lie tbh
Dr ronan_glynn, we know your pride is at stake here. You went too far to turn around now, you just need to keep going... and the nation keep paying... Maybe one day we will see the size of the devastation your stubbornness caused...
Mmmmm. Methinks the man doth protest too much !!!
We know this is a complete lie. The virus has got around a lot of young people and literally no one is dieing
This is a disgrace. The man should resign for spreading such blatant misinformation LeoVaradkar. This is directly at off from worldwide statistics and also are own heath surveillance. Their incompetence is increasingly showing.
Fact check those lies , because that what they are.
Another month till Halloween. Stop scaring kids.
Medical NAZI's......supported and enabled by a corrupt media.....
The 'direct quotes' do the CMO a disservice as not quoted in body of the story. In fairness he suggested not something he would advise.
So we have the following evidence of knee jerk emotional decision making based on incorrect info: * this statement by ronan_glynn and President_MU * NPHET newspapers * SamuelMcConkey1 wild predictions * MichealMartinTD long term damage remark CillianDeGascun false positives
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Liar ... what country in the World has any significant level of people under 45 who have died from COVID-19 who do not have existing co-morbidities, ie. existing serious illnesses that are the real reason for vulnerability, not a young age? NPHET President_MU rtenews
'Might', B.S. Wont be long till the NWO is announced.
Just see some worldwide mortality by age. In Spain average COVID death age now is 86,6 years life expectancy is 83...
The face of evil.
Looks like Nolan talked about the young dying which would fit his previous MO of hysterical exaggeration, Glynn stated the strategy wouldn’t be followed here; not his call to make. Both however seem terrified of the prospect that a vaccine might not be needed for some reason....
What a fucking terrible thing to say,this is another disgusting tactic by a dreadful team of inadequate doctors to scare people into their homes,how dare he come out with such a disgusting statement about 99% of kids who r well reared and obedient. A tosser whose losing grip.
Children have been back in schools since May in many countries. Colleges open. Young adults have been stocking shelves in shops, working in restaurants, using public transport, all those house parties & BLM protests ...... why are they still alive? 🤨 What’s going on?
‘Awful lot’ of unquantifiable nonsense there with speculation thrown in about who ‘might’ die. Sounds like they don’t know what they are talking about but seem very sure about restrictions regardless.
Like in Sweden? Oh, wait hang on...No, didn’t happen there.
This man should never again be consulted on anything of importance. Only someone who awoke from a six month coma could make such a ridiculously hysterical, scaremongering statement on covid 19 as this. This is shameful.
Picture of Philip Nolan with Ronan Glynn quote?
Blatant lies!!!!
Ask a person who had it bad before cast judgement on this idea.
That's not true. Death among the young is rare, and not too dissimilar to flu. This fear mongering is irresponsible.
poor Ireland in the hands of these people.
That’s a disgraceful comment
This is no longer about a disease and science.. it’s about control!
Oh no, if we copy Sweden we might end up as bad as them. But wait, we already are, despite all our restrictions.
'An awful lot of young people might have to die in order for sufficient infections to occur to get anywhere near it.' Go way with your scare tactics 🙄😑 We know there has only been 1 death under the age of 25 in Ireland LetIrelandLive
Everyone is so worried about young people, old people, sick people but no doctor is talking about medicines like chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine that have been working in other countries ..all they're interested in is their bonus for each vaccine they administer !! Disgraceful
Why is this man not sectioned for talking such utter balls?
So that’s another no. No to carlheneghan . No to MLevitt_NP2013 . No to indepdubnrth No to Dr.Feely . End of . NPHET & Micheal Martin are running the country.
So Sweden is killing young people ? Jesus
Are you fucking kidding me... NO they don't, inhaled steroids, vitamin d3 vitamin c and zinc, oh and what's that other thing Oh ye HYROXCHLOROQUINE!! scaremongering at its finest. So are ye saying ye won't allow DR's write a prescription for these, then ye are killing people.
Sweden would be a very strong refutation of that proposition. Assuming we are still interested in discussing objective reality in Ireland?
I presume we are not going to follow the WHO recommendation to use the Sweden model, because it worked !
COVID is *less* dangerous than seasonal flu for younger ages (e.g., 40). That is OBVIOUS in ALL the statistics. We live in an idiocracy.
Fu**ed so. Did anyone actually listen to Giesecke? Love completely unbiased and accurate reporting. They must also be developing a vaccine
Covid -19 is not a new virus.Why is he not even considering the fact the majority of false postive & asytomatic results may well be due to people already having some immunity from past Coronavirus common colds & flu or other 30 sub-strains of Covid-19?
Well none of them died in Sweden.
kellybessell Is this the moment the masses work out that they’re taking the piss out of us! Cmon Ireland
All those CFR numbers can be divided by 3 at a bear minimum.
Young people are very safe ya dope
Lets put it to the vote, you dont speak for me.
This strategy will have to be adopted some time in the future, if it hasn't already happened. This virus is not going anywhere and there is no guarantee that a vaccine will work. Let the young and healthy get on with life and shield the vulnerable if they choose it.
Nobody elected these clowns. They have no right to dictate how we live
My understanding is the NPHET people are advisors, not decision makers. Dr McGlynnis in no position to say 'it is certainly not a strategy to be implemented in this country' - non elected officials do not make decisions on behalf of the electorate in a democracy.
This chancer has the neck to talk about ethics after the pain he’s caused. Livelihoods lost, suicides, depression and much more. Unbelievable arrogance. This man and his fucking models are far more dangerous than the virus
Make absolutely no mistake comments like this will lead to more young people dying but from suicide not covid, what an absolutely disgusting thing to say.
MlMcNamaraTD needs to question NPHET on the statistic or statement made 'that alot of young people will die'.
That's a lie
Just waiting for this to happen.
Look ... We're not doing more of this bollox ... we wait in some quasi police state for years? on the say so of these incompetent pricks? for a vaccine which may never come and may not be safe, effective or accepted when it does. Natural immunity has to be obtained by some means.
Thank goodness for that.
That’s not your decision to make Mr Glynn
Scaremongering at its finest
This is insane. He's basically saying 'we won't allow you go back to normal. We're not going to allow your immune systems to do what they've always done. You have to wait for a vaccine to do that for you.' Thanks but no thanks. I'm moving my family to some sane nation ASAP
Bare faced lies at this stage. One person under 25 has died at this stage.
How many young people died in sweden
Lies.
It’s all lies
There will be no future for young people, life will literally not be worth living if this nonsense continues and leads to economic collapse. Suicide rates are already skyrocketing.
Who told him this strategy won't be adopted suddenly he's the head of the country thier are lots of scientific opinions at the moment the Swedish one is working
Ask for 1,000 healthy volunteers, 18 to 59, but otherwise demographically representative. Administer a large viral load of Covid19 to each volunteer. Keep them in quarantine for 3 weeks. Monitor for 5 months. It’s a controlled experiment on a limited number of persons.
The problem is that they are rolling out the Covid skeptics now on TV and testing the water for even more 'living with the virus' blather talk as we approach winter up numbers rising. This is nuts. Sweden GDP down like ours with way more pain for their efforts. Not worth it.
If I were in NPHET I’d be mad as hell about junior ministers getting advisers when that money could be used to cover a security detail for me.
Get Marcus De Brun on a non bias show (oh wait there is none) your facts are utter shite ronan, I hope he feels stupid for that statement
“An awful lot of young people may have to die” - this is just balls-out lying
What is he on about? ... These are Sweden's deaths by age ...
Wtf is he talking about, they don't put enough flouride in the water to keep us as thick as they'd like. We're a shower of gobshites for paying these arse holes wages.
If he really believes what he’s saying and believes young at risk, they’d have advised nationwide lockdowns like early days and certainly wouldn’t have put their names to schools opening. They are effectively allowing some to get this, just a lower proportion then the WHO guy
Glynn losing all credibility with comments like this. More young people will die from these extreme restrictions than they ever would from Covid. Ludicrous stance to take which flies in the face of the actual evidence. Can’t admit they got it wrong. Dangerous stuff.
So lockdown,rinse,repeat till we all die of old age then👍
A lot of young people have to die away with the birds he is where else in the world has that happened
Modelling!
Where are the statistics to show that young people are really at risk from this virus? They do not exist. The vast majority are asymptomatic.
Nonsense, utter rubbish.
That's complete and utters lies and he knows it! Where is the stats to prove young people are dying in their droves from this, he should be reported for spreading lies.
It's literally how the species managed to survive to 2020. How is this man a doctor?
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