Rex Murphy: If the polls got it so wrong in 2016, why is the media so confident this time around?

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Some of the partisan impulses that distorted coverage and polling last time are at play again, and with greater intensity this time

The faces of the anchors of the great American news networks were a tableau of ecstatic release from nightmare anxiety. It is still a strange joy to visit YouTube, where one can relive the very moment when Florida — which had been swaying all evening from Clinton to Donald Trump, Trump to Clinton — finally yielded and placed the Clinton campaign into history’s sad loss file.Yes, it is.

America’s other oracle, the Huffington Post, left Trump with the tiniest breathing hole at two per cent — only, I believe, as a kindness to a candidate who its editors were absolutely certain was fully down for the count. For instance, a few days ago, a pollster claimed that Joe Biden was up 17 points in Michigan, a key battleground state. More ominously for Trump, a recent poll by sage psephologist Nate Silver gave Biden an 89 per cent chance of shellacking the incumbent.Article content continued

 

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Pretty easy to see the difference. People in 2016 didn’t like Clinton either. Dems didn’t vote, and more gop did with trump getting the I hate him the least vote. This time, people like Biden and trump is more hated and has show how bumbling he is.

It’s a little thing we like to call “learning from our mistakes.” For example, I read a Rex Murphy column once and that was a big mistake so I never did it again.

They nailed 2018.

The polls were sideswiped by the Electoral College. Clinton, in fact, won the popular vote. I most countries that would be a win. The Electoral College, a stupid and corrupt system, is likely the only way for Trump to win again.

Who cares what Rex Murphy says? He is a paid propagandist for the fossil fuel industry. The industry that is changing the climate so it is uninhabitable for human life.

If you think the polls got it wrong in 2016 you don't understand polls.

That Rex Murphy, , asks this question means either he's misleading people or he's chosen not to read a thing about how pollsters explained the results and corrected for them. It also means he's ignoring how pollsters got it right in 2018 right.

Rex is King. That's why he's Rex! Rex is right, reporters should report the news not create the news.....

You lost me at Rex Murphy.

Because the polls had errors on the state level, largely accurate nationally. Pollsters found they underestimated the white w/out college degree and have made changes to weighting to reflect.

Because Trump has a record, now.

What is the National Post? And why would anyone be interested in what it has to say?

You tell us, you know there is a big difference, now that they know more obout Trump method of leading.

You should really retire, Rex.

When dinosaur Rex doesn’t know jack about something, he should maybe not write about it. He’s chipping away at that last ounce of credibility you have left.

Dementia Biden who says he needs every vote he can get to beat George Bush for a Senate Seat against “the Donald”. It’ll be tight. Hard to believe last election CNN didn’t have Clinton winning by a large margin

The polls got it fairly accurate in 2016. HRC won the popular vote by almost 3m. 2016 showed a lot of undecided, they swung to Trump and took the battleground states. There are substantially fewer undecided in 2020. If you haven't made up your mind about this guy, you're asleep.

Polls are BS and should never be allowed

Rex is an old dude who has lost half of his old brain, if I were him I would retire for good.

Trump got fewer % of the total vote than Mitt Romney yet still won. The reason is polls are snap shots in time of sentiment not forecasts of the future, nor do they provide a break down of potential EC points. Listen to 538, not the rantings of Rex.

Like HillaryClinton, JoeBiden the Democrat’s choice that ensures FourMoreYears with realDonaldTrump

There are 2 very uncertainties in modern times: polls & weather.

Because they buried their collective heads further up their arses.

The so-called media is actually propaganda. Propaganda requires no confidence because well it is propaganda. The 2016 propaganda is the same as the 2020 propaganda. You should know, most of national post is propaganda.

Because the polls were right. Hillary won the popular vote. Sadly, Cons are easily misled and parrot misleading garbage.

Arrogance?

OMG this is dumb.

This looks like crap !

TRUMP ALL THE WAY

Hope springs eternal

Not an ounce of research demonstrating how polling changed over the last 4 years. You have gotten so lazy Rex.

I've been watching way too much news from the United States I haven't heard one report or panel where people had full confidence in the polls. The whole shooting match comes down to a half dozen states so no one is banking on them.

The media is more confident because fewer voters have said they will vote for a third party. 2020 is more of a two way race. They are also more confident because a larger number of voters have either already voted or they are not going to change their mind.

Because Trump's a disaster.

Well Rex, people can learn from their mistakes and apply those lessons going forward to improve. Novel concept for a guy who has been writing the same shit for decades to appeal to a (dwindling) base of mouthbreathers through fearmongering. Guess we'll find out!

So if they got it so wrong then, Biden is a shoe in, right? What the hell happened to you, Rex? I loved you and now I disrespect you...how do you explain that?

I heard the problem is people are not willing to answer the pollsters. Only 2% of people are willing to answer. Making it very difficult for the pollsters to get true representative sample.

The main stream media is the marketing arm of the left. Marketers push a product to enrich themselves.

Because there were record undecideds in the last election, so the polls weren't wrong. The undecideds broke for Trump. There are no undecideds this time so that isn't possible. A very easy explanation.

Ummm........Come on Rex, you're a Rhodes scholar. JAMES COMEY RexMurphy47

You seem to get things wrong and keep writing, so... 🤷🏾‍♂️

Rex, you're becoming a parody of yourself. But you're in luck. That wraps around and doubles your per word rate.

Vote ...i.dont buy the polls but trump has to lose

More smoke from the Old Bigots Volcano Lair. What's burning? (Credibility, it's credibility)

I think Rex is past his best before date.

Red will lose

Oh poor Rex Murphy. The world has moved on and he hasn’t been able to adapt. Maybe it’s time to think about retirement?

In 2016, state level polling missed white non college voters. National polls were within the margin of error. 2020- Biden has double HRCs national lead, up or tied in way more states, larger leads in state polls. Over 50% Way less undecideds and 3rd party. National Post is trash.

Hey Rex, you are listening to Trump talking points again. Based on popular vote the 2016 polls were not that far off and within margins of error. Also 2016 showed a higher undecided vote at this time.

Rex is really going to hate watching the results come in on Tuesday evening. Like. A lot.

Rex Murphy is a dinosaur 🦖

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Because the democrats and the leftist media have done everything they can to harm Trump and boost biden's chances.

Who is Rex Murphy? And why would anyone be interested in what he has to say?.. sigh..

Exactly

Looks like Rex writing above his pay grade. Or he’s just grasping at straws to pander to his base.

Because they could be just as wrong this time and Biden would still win.

But weren’t the polls correct? Clinton did win more votes.

Who tf even is the clown that wrote this drivel ?

I love that Rex keeps pretending to be a writer.

The media can say anything they want. The media sides with globalization, socialism & corruption. They are the hell hounds of the Uber elite. Not to be trusted, less you lose your life. But what you asshats don’t realize is we the people. Won’t listen to you snakes in the grass.

Rex Murphy is the smartest journalist in Canada today. That’s why I shared his thoughts.

The polls were pretty accurate for popular vote. They did not fine down the distribution of the vote to reflect the electoral college. I think they ARE taking that into account this time, but you literally need to look at each district, and that is where the gerrymandering is!

Why is the National Post repeating the lie that the polls were wrong in 2016? They were bang on, within about percentage point (well within the standard margin of error).

thank god improbable things sometimes happen, or Rex Murphy wouldn't be able to Rex Murphy

Because the media in this country is just propaganda, Rex. No one reports the news anymore. They tell the viewer what to think becuz their viewers are to stupid to form their own opinions.

I’ve got trump for a grand at +130

SarahSm24104107 Follow the money. Look at Nevada's odds.

Rex Murphy pretending is to be old and wise yet what comes to life here is just old!

especially during COVID. Is CNN frightening its base so many will stay home?

I remember this poll...

Why, why, why does Rex still have a valid platform?

I see caution from most outlets. From the NP I see mostly nonsense. Send Rex over to rebel blog.

Postmortia

Breaking: Postmedia is hot garbage

NYT suggested a few days ago that 60% of votes are in.. +16 for Biden... Same people +4 HRC in 2016... Seemed surprising but it was NYT

Red, here's something to think about... I am not aware of one white HRC voter switching to DJT to 2020... NOT ONE

If Rex Murphy gets everything so wrong, why is Post Media so confident in keeping this dinosaur around?

I think Rex is partially correct... But so much is different and less favorable to trump in 2020. I could prob list 15 distinct dynamics... Also. They may have gone too the other way in correcting 2016

Watching Rex Murphy further discredit himself every week is Canada’s 🇨🇦 COVID-19 national pastime. His consistency is marvellous.

2 reasons. 1) as explained below, the national polls were well withn the margin of error. Trump won with exceedingly narrow wins in 3 states. 2) pollsters and news organizations don't like being wrong. They have had 4 years to perfect their methods.

They're not.

Rex's tears are gonna be delicious on Tuesday. Better get my cup ready.

Lefty tears are salty

The polls are interesting but the final decision is made by the US Electoral College

Trump wins virus goes away onNov4!!!

The RCP averages of 4-way polls had Clinton up on Trump by 3.3% on election day. In their average of 2 way polls it was Clinton up by 3.2% She won the popular vote by 2.1%. How was this so wrong, again?

Hope? Wishing? Praying? Media hate someone they can’t control!

Trump landslide

Rex might also ask, why is Trump's camp reportedly so pessimistic now? Perhaps their expensive, detailed internal polling is telling them the same bad news all the media published polls are reporting-?

Polls arent used to gauge public opinion, but rather to influence it.

Typical Rex Murphy drivel journalism Constantly cutting my attention span

The media has absolutely no idea what they are doing nor do they know where these numbers come from. The graphic is nice and colourful thou!! 2020Election

“...my fruede tank ran out of schaden.”😂😂😂

Because people are much more savvy about the GOP's voter suppression tactics

Because Rex doesn't understand probability. The polls weren't 'so wrong' there was a reasonably sized polling error similar to 2012 but in the key states. 538 gave Trump a 30% chance to win. That is really high. Higher than flipping a coin and it landing heads 2x in a row.

Because their entire careers ride on it?

Because of last time the voters are taking this very seriously. Hopefully enough have and will get out to vote.

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